Really slow keypad/dialer? - Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development

Ever since I have upgraded (and boy do I mean that in every sense of the word, thanks DCD) my dialing from the phone screen has been painfully slow... one of those things that just throws off your rhythm trying to dial because the numbers and touch tones do not show up until after a delay.... so basically you are not sure if you dialed the right numbers until waiting to see what comes out OR you ave to go VERY slow to make sure that there are no mistakes. It is a one digit at a time delay... dial a number and wait or dial them all and they slowly show up with even timing.
I hope there might be an idea... I won't go as far as reloading it... I have it too perfect right now... I wouldn't remember where to start and I don't have the time to reinstall everything anyway. Just the same... any thoughts or suggestions are gratefully accepted.

Some of the replacement dialers/contact programs with their own dialers look up your contacts as you dial, if you have a very large contact list it can drastically slow down your dialing. Try turning off smartdialing temporarily and see if it clears it up.
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also have you turned off the dialing tones. that slows it down too

BillThyCat said:
Some of the replacement dialers/contact programs with their own dialers look up your contacts as you dial, if you have a very large contact list it can drastically slow down your dialing. Try turning off smartdialing temporarily and see if it clears it up.
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titan cant connect a phone call

after i did all the updates. (dcd new rom , 3.27 radio, gps finder, tomtom, vista phone dialer and the htc home plugin) i have trouble making a call.
It will just stay in the dialing screen and bam! call ended......its doing this so opften that i just spent a half hour tring to make a call..........no luck.......
i usually have 3 bars but sometimes 2 but that was always good enought before.
I've had this problem a few times as well.. even more often, I make a call and it calls out, but I have no audio (I can't hear them, they can't hear me). A soft-reset always fixes both these problems.
taxilian said:
I've had this problem a few times as well.. even more often, I make a call and it calls out, but I have no audio (I can't hear them, they can't hear me). A soft-reset always fixes both these problems.
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thats not my prob.....my prob is the call wont get connected period it says dialing then goes straight to call ended.
have you tried a soft reset? that fixes it for me.
sure would be nice to find out what causes it, though.
(I meant that I have both the problem you mention as well as the other variation, each in its turn)
you need your msid number
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you need your msid number
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nope i dont

Dialer Problem with DCD's 3.0.1 ROM

My phone has been great since updating to DCD's latest cocktail but today I started having a really weird problem.
I would manually dial a number in the dialer screen (# was not in my contacts) and it would instead dial a similar number of one of my contacts. Tried it 5 times and even tried soft-resetting and it kept doing it.
After the soft Re-set and clearing my call memory it started choosing a different number to call but still the same issue. The numbers is chose were very similar, all had the same area code and the 1st 2 numbers were the same but after that completely different.
Is there a way to go to the stock dialer? I'm on a Verizon 6800.
Thanks.
Dbl_Tap said:
My phone has been great since updating to DCD's latest cocktail but today I started having a really weird problem.
I would manually dial a number in the dialer screen (# was not in my contacts) and it would instead dial a similar number of one of my contacts. Tried it 5 times and even tried soft-resetting and it kept doing it.
After the soft Re-set and clearing my call memory it started choosing a different number to call but still the same issue. The numbers is chose were very similar, all had the same area code and the 1st 2 numbers were the same but after that completely different.
Is there a way to go to the stock dialer? I'm on a Verizon 6800.
Thanks.
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Are you talking about smartdialing? If so this is normal
What it is doing is that when you dial a number whether it is in your contacts or not, it is trying to recognize numbers that you have dialed. If it matches it will display the name of the contact and options to give information.
But if you keep dialing and the numbers don't match with any contact then nothing will appear. It will just let you dial the number that you are trying to dial with out having to look through a familiar contact.
it was doing the smart thing narrowing it down as I entered more numbers but after the 6th number nothing matched so it showed just the number in the dialing section of the screen. Hit the send button and it would then choose a contact to dial instead.
Dbl_Tap said:
it was doing the smart thing narrowing it down as I entered more numbers but after the 6th number nothing matched so it showed just the number in the dialing section of the screen. Hit the send button and it would then choose a contact to dial instead.
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Hmm that is odd... If you dont really use Smart dial, try disabling it in the options menu of the dial screen. This might help. Are you running a custom ROM or Stock?
DCD's newest custom ROM with the custom dial. I was hoping there was a way to load the stock dialer instead to see if that helped.
Wow... funny, I had the same thing happen a few times exactly as described. I dialed the complete 10 digit number and instead it dialed one of my contacts with the same area code and partial prefix. I figured it was just me.
I'll try disabling Smart Dialing and see if that fixes it.
Also I looked at the numbers I called and I was trying to dial XXX-761-2056 but it dialed XXX-709-8039 so not even close. The other time it tried dialing XXX-701-5325.
Dbl_Tap said:
Also I looked at the numbers I called and I was trying to dial XXX-761-2056 but it dialed XXX-709-8039 so not even close. The other time it tried dialing XXX-701-5325.
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So you guys cooked your own ROMS and when you cooked it you put the Vogue Dialer , Vouge Skin, and Smartdial?
Or the Stock Titan Dialer ?
Because I installed the Vouge options with smartdial and mine works perfectly.
I will provide you with the Mogul / 6800 Big Button CAB which will replace your dialer and the Touch Skin CAB to skin the dialer.... This might work "you can always uninstall it"
I didn't do any cooking, I just took DCD's basic ROM and loaded that but it came with a different dialer than stock for the XV6800.
I'll give those dialers a shot, that a lot.
Turns out that this is the same dialer as the one built into DCD's ROM but what is interesting is no numbers showed on the keypad. It also showed up as HTC HTC Home for the install in remove programs
Well crap. Turns out the HTC HTC Home listing in remove did remove the HTC home plug in but not the dialer and now I've got not #'s on the keys. I can't find the uninstall line for this dialer, any ideas? Oh wait think I found it. The Bullfrog Big Button Dialer right?
I installed the Wizard reTouched dialer (installing it will fix your no number issue). I haven't tried just dialing a random number though... lemme give it a shot.
Ok, I just tested it and it worked fine, let me find the dialer. It looks EXACTLY the same as the "stock" one in DCD's rom, but I found it's a little different.
Ok, here it is, it's attached in the first post of this thread. There are some skins for it too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315685
I noticed that when I tried to skin the stock dialer it didn't skin right. I'd have no numbers, or some of the buttons wouldn't map right. I installed the dialer in the thread above and I was able to skin it fine, and it makes calls without issue.
P.S. The test number I dialed has the same area code and exchange as a few contacts.
Oh, and the Wizard dialer will show up in your remove programs list.
You guys need to install the Big Button dialer along with the Touch CAB
The Big Button Dialer just installs the Dialer and the Touch CAB skins the Dialer with the key pad.
I have tried the Wizard Retouched one, but I removed it because it looks wack to me because you can't modify it like the big button can.
So for those with not having a dial pad
Install the Mogul Big Button Dialer
Then
The Touch CAB
Or they can pick whichever one they prefer.
You know, choices and all...
J Shed said:
Or they can pick whichever one they prefer.
You know, choices and all...
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True, but after all it was an opinion not a fact.
Fact is that with the big button dialer and the Touch skin cab it is easy to make your own skins by replacing the ones that the Touch skin cab created.
This is meant for true modifiers. Because you wont have to be installing cab after cab after cab or even worrying about getting a gsm dialer that removes certain features on your phone.
Since I really don't care for the custom dialers I deselected the dialer skin and the smartdailing in DCD's kitchen. Now I have an original WM6 Dialer with WM6 smartdialing and I really like it.
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True, but after all it was an opinion not a fact.
Fact is that with the big button dialer and the Touch skin cab it is easy to make your own skins by replacing the ones that the Touch skin cab created.
This is meant for true modifiers. Because you wont have to be installing cab after cab after cab or even worrying about getting a gsm dialer that removes certain features on your phone.
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UPDATE
I am assuming you guys use CDMA since it is a TITAN Forum. Be advised that using the Wizard Touch Dialer will not only give you memory leaks, BUT
also disable the ability to use 911 and other features such as the advanced configuration mode on your phone.
Check out post 170 on the same link that redirects you to the Wizard dialer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315685&page=17
Workaround
I have found that when you are dialing a number that is similar, or if it happens more than once, push up on the directional pad after dialing the number which deselects the smart dialing number in the window. then press the green button as usual. This seemed to help and hasn't done it for me in several days.
Serf, Since I'm a newb at custom ROMS I didn't do the kitchen thing. Maybe I need to give that a shot so I can get the stock dialer back.

Sprint Touch Pro Dialer

This dialer is really aweful considering there is no smart dial..
plus you cant tap the contact and have their numbers popup so you can choose which you want to call.
these are basics of wm and i dont have these features. I love the phone and it's features, but smart dial is extremely important to me and im sure to others as well.
is there something i can do to replace the dialer?
help if you can
Thank you
There is Smart Dial on my Sprint Touch Pro. The thing that bothers me is everytime you touch a name under the dialer it automatically starts calling them. I would like it to go to the contact so you can pick which number to call.
bombzhome said:
There is Smart Dial on my Sprint Touch Pro. The thing that bothers me is everytime you touch a name under the dialer it automatically starts calling them. I would like it to go to the contact so you can pick which number to call.
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You have to click on the input bar at the very top of the screen before you touch a name. This will search instead of dial.
bombzhome said:
There is Smart Dial on my Sprint Touch Pro. The thing that bothers me is everytime you touch a name under the dialer it automatically starts calling them. I would like it to go to the contact so you can pick which number to call.
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Use your D-pad to scroll through the numbers, press Left or Right after you see the name.
Possible threadjack...
...How do you input extra numbers to be dialed after the phone number, i.e., to dial a pause and your password for instance).
I thought it was "," but that didn't work. And for short numbers like traffic "511" plus the highway, I put in 511,4951 and it converts it to 511-4951.
^^ the letter p is for pause and w is for wait ^^
darwinbrewer said:
You have to click on the input bar at the very top of the screen before you touch a name. This will search instead of dial.
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Too bad you can't make the input bar a little bigger, I find it hard to tap the input box without using the stylus. Most times I can tap everything with my finger but that input box always messes me up.
I use the Sprint Automatic Speech Recognition (ASR) feature almost exclusively now to dial numbers from my Contacts. Regardless of what Sprint calls it, it's Microsoft Voice Command and it works quite well. There's no training and you don't have to record voice tags. It just works
It even works well with a Bluetooth headset. Just tap the answer/call button on the headset and tell your phone who to dial. If there's more than one number for the contact, it will ask which one to dial. I rarely take my phone out of the holster to make a call.
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PGRtoo said:
I use the Sprint Automatic Speech Recognition (ASR) feature almost exclusively now to dial numbers from my Contacts. Regardless of what Sprint calls it, it's Microsoft Voice Command and it works quite well. There's no training and you don't have to record voice tags. It just works
It even works well with a Bluetooth headset. Just tap the answer/call button on the headset and tell your phone who to dial. If there's more than one number for the contact, it will ask which one to dial. I rarely take my phone out of the holster to make a call.
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Yeah, I dial everyone with it unless there's too much background noise. I LOVE it.
You can also tell it to start programs by saying "Start " then the program name, OR, you can tell it to play media files by saying the same thing. You can even ask it for the date and time and your battery level. I never even really knew how good it was until I used it. Not one review I read talked about it.
i dont think you guys understand what i am saying... i owned the xv6800 for 2 years and the i760 also... smartdial does work on the touch pro but when you hit the number with your finger it calls that number.. with the xv6800 and i760 you tap and hold and all the contact info comes up in a little popup and you tap the number you want to call..
as for the dpad.. the dpad takes alot to get use to..it's too easy to make mistakes using the dpad.
i brought back the original dialer through the reg and it still did not help. htc has completely taken over the os with their proprietary software. not too smart on their end. i have also disabled the touch flo and you get the same ugly white dialer.
Just read!
And the answer you were given in this thread is that when you see the number in your call history, you use your d-Pad to scroll through the numbers in your directory and when you see the one you want you hit enter and your phone will "F"-ing dial it. Can you not read?
itster2 said:
i dont think you guys understand what i am saying... i owned the xv6800 for 2 years and the i760 also... smartdial does work on the touch pro but when you hit the number with your finger it calls that number.. with the xv6800 and i760 you tap and hold and all the contact info comes up in a little popup and you tap the number you want to call..
as for the dpad.. the dpad takes alot to get use to..it's too easy to make mistakes using the dpad.
i brought back the original dialer through the reg and it still did not help. htc has completely taken over the os with their proprietary software. not too smart on their end. i have also disabled the touch flo and you get the same ugly white dialer.
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In my dialer, it has a Contacts button in the lower left corner. If you use that, then it works the way you describe: click a contact and then you can pick which number you want to use. Doesn't everyone have this?
I agree with the OP. I would like to have smart dialer access Contacts so that I can quickly pull up someone's full contact info and then decide which number to call. I also try to avoid using the D pad because it isn't 100% accurate (or at least not for me) and I have had trouble dialing the wrong number or person inadvertently.
Trying to use the current Contacts option isn't very finger friendly for me.
Update - I just used Advanced Config to turn off the dialer skin, and now I have what I was looking for. At least with Sprint, the basic dialer has smart dial that allows you to tap a contact and it brings up the persons contact info, rather than just dialing their default number. I'm going to give this a try for a while.
I use Spb's Mobile shell to do as you describe.
http://beta.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/screenshots.html
QWERTY stuck on compact, wont change to Full
I have been doing some tweaking to my phone and after adding the black dialer, my QWERTY that displays with messages is the compact and not the full anymore. I have tried to change it in the Today section but it keeps reverting back to the compact style. I have not been able to locate the cab file to delete it. Any help would be great, thanks I should specify, I am using the touch pro

Delay in ringing when receiving calls?

I have a Eris on VZW, and I want to see if anyone here experiencing a delayed ring? I.E. when someone calls you it takes 3 maybe even 4 rings before your phone rings? My last phone, WM i760 took 1&1/2 to 2 before the cell rang, and both are using the same ringtone. Is this normal? Is there any way I can decrease the amount of delay(on my i760 there was a phone code I could dial to get into a special phone mode to adjust the delay)? Thanks.
What can we do?
I tried some of the default ringtones and the same thing occurred.
not sure whether this is always the case, but i just tried it and there was like zero delay. instant ringing.
delay 3-4 rining.
but the LED delays "only" 2 rining.
AND(!!): wenn i am listening music with the headset, musik stop playing long before (3-4sec before) the phone starts to ring or the LED starts to blink
Normal tones (htc's tones) shouldn't have a delay. Mp3 or custom tones do lag.
This issue has been asked before, no way te resolve it I think but not sure.
You should try the search
Yeah I had a custom tone on my last phone and there was a phone setting i had to get into by dialing a number to fix improve it.
anyone try what was suggested it here. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=99307
Edit: I just notice that what is suggested in that link is the same thing I did for my previous phone and that worked well. I had it at 1 on my last phone and I have it on 1 on my Eris now. I just tested it, and my phone now rings about a quarter second after the second ring. It much better now. I was told with this settings change on this phone and with my previous phone battery life does go down a slight bit, but I never noticed it on my last phone. I hope its the same case here. Then again I do have plans to get a larger battery, which would kind of make the point moot.
tbaker077 said:
Yeah I had a custom tone on my last phone and there was a phone setting i had to get into by dialing a number to fix improve it.
anyone try what was suggested it here. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=99307
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It says on that forum by pjsockett linked to above:
##PST Send
Edit Mode
Enter 000000 Press OK
Modem Settings
Slot Cycle Index
Change Value (Lower values ring faster)
OK
Menu
Commit Modifications
Press OK to reset the device. OK
After that your device should reboot and you should be good!
Beware, Reducing the slot cycle can reduce battery life which could be an issue on the Eris.
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How do you dial ##PST on the hero?
- I tried ## then dial, but that didn't work.
can you give a slightly more verbose set of instructions please? - bit of a newb on dialing codes into phone.
Many thanks.
dail ## and what ever number PST equals.
Any feedback on how much this is affecting battery life? I'm not sure if it's better to have quick ringing but worse battery life...
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dail ## and what ever number PST equals.
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what does PST represent? is it the IMEI number or something? Where do I find the PST number?
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Any feedback on how much this is affecting battery life? I'm not sure if it's better to have quick ringing but worse battery life...
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Not sure if this works for European Hero. I haven't had my Eris for too long but set at 1 i haven't noticed to much of a difference.
Anyone know where to get the ##PST - as in how do I find out what the PST number is?
Please?

Dialing sluggishness

What is it with cell phones and dial tones? Why is it that sometimes when I'm typing in a number the dial tones lag behind or go one for 1-2 full seconds? This isn't rocket science or at least it shouldn't be. What's so damn hard about having it such that when the user pressing on say #3 the dialtone is immediately (and I mean immediately) sounded and 3 is registered into the phone and the user is set to enter the next number?!? There should be no delay for the dialtone to sound or to stop or for the number to not be immediately registered!!! I thought this was a silly WinMo thing but it happens on Android too. What's the deal? Shouldn't typing in phone numbers be instantaneous?!?
Can't say this has ever happened to me before on Android but I also turn my dial tones off. I did have it happen on winmo but only with tons of apps running in the background. Never really been in such a rush to dial a number either though lol
I gotta say I have the same issue with the Hero. It LAGS big time. At this stage of the game with phones, you should be able to dial #s effortlessly. BIG disappointment that Android out of the box lacks the power to dial #s effortlessly.

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