google maps works great, tomtom and Visualgps dont - Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development

I have the VZ 6800 using Valhallas gps cab and for google maps it works GREAT, knows right where i am moves with me ect. However when i fire up tomtom or visualgps it cant seem to pinpoint my location. in fact the standard divation in visual is usualy in the millions of feet. any ideas whats causing this? Both programs SEE the gps and satalites fine but cant pinpoint me. Thanks

grs10251 said:
I have the VZ 6800 using Valhallas gps cab and for google maps it works GREAT, knows right where i am moves with me ect. However when i fire up tomtom or visualgps it cant seem to pinpoint my location. in fact the standard divation in visual is usualy in the millions of feet. any ideas whats causing this? Both programs SEE the gps and satellites fine but cant pinpoint me. Thanks
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Your right. The thread that covers the application explains the fix. Its becuase those apps are access the comport still instead of the Windows Mobile daemon(?) for GPS. You need to install a third party app that will grab the de-obfuscated data and redirect it to a soft comport that these apps will use. The program that was recommend was called Franson GPS gate. It will take the data and reroutes it to another "Com port"
All of the details are in the Adapter thread. Check it out around page 18 or so...
I got it working great for me but its just too much crap to get GPS when you can flash to a custom ROM and not have to worry about two third party apps.
Eitherway, good luck.

Custom roms are great, i've used them almost since I bought the 6800.If I want verizon to upgrade me to a better phone, I need to log complaints against the stock rom. using these little tricks keeps the phone serviceable at any given time while affording me a semi "custom" rom feel that I have grown accustomed to.

any sugestions
i cant get the gps to wirk in tomtom still even using gps gate so could anyone recomend a good rom i would love to keep all the functions of the stock wm6.1 but have gps features as well.

grs10251 said:
i cant get the gps to wirk in tomtom still even using gps gate so could anyone recomend a good rom i would love to keep all the functions of the stock wm6.1 but have gps features as well.
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What happens?

Even using gps gate the gps doesnt lock on my position. i get 5 to 8 satalites but then cant pinpoint where i am. There is a huge standared diviation when i look up my location upward of 100000 feet. google maps uses the same gps and port but knows exactly where i am.

I found the navigon mobile software to work quite well. Acquire it as you see fit. Mostly works with European maps but US are available. Im using Mobile Navigator 6.XX. cant remember. Got screwed by verizon and bought iPhone. but i will still offer advice. After contract is up if verizon can shape up i can get an android capable phone if they offer it.

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Garmin Mobile XT

I have Garmin Mobile XT installed that I have used with the Garmin GPS10 bluetooth receiver.
Is there a way to make Mobile XT use the internal GPS? When I start it, it scans bluetooth for gps device. I don't see any other options.
Garmin Beta
I think if you search Garmin's website there is a beta version which uses internal gps in the new test rom
Even if that is true the maps are still locked to your GPS10's serial number. You will need to use GPSGate to emulate the Garmin GPS protocol and cloak your GPS10's serial number. I am looking for a version of Mobile XT which will use the internal GPS as well. I'd love to ditch my GPS10 and go all internal. I like Mobile XT a lot and since I paid for Garmin maps I want to use them!
I am using Garmin with the internal GPS, I cant really point you in the right direction because this sort of "talk" is prohibited here but it can be done quite easily.
Post on getting Garmin XT to work with the Internal GPS is in my FAQ:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363431
OK ummm... WOW!!!
All I can say is that Garmin Mobile XT is awesome! After a little hacking (not discussing here...Vancelot, PM me if you want info) I got the software unlocked to allow non-garmin GPS receivers. This software works with the intermediary driver so no launcher is necessary. It works like a charm! Now I don't feel so bad for buying the new maps nor the GPS10 receiver... even though I don't need it
I spotted a copy of Garmin 2009 recently and downloaded it. By chance can anyone here tell me their experiences with TomTom compared to Garmin?
I currently have TomTom6 on my vz6800 but was curious about this application now?
Thx
parcou said:
I spotted a copy of Garmin 2009 recently and downloaded it. By chance can anyone here tell me their experiences with TomTom compared to Garmin?
I currently have TomTom6 on my vz6800 but was curious about this application now?
Thx
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I started out with TomTom...very good app. A friend of mine had me give Garmin XT a try...another good app. I'm starting to prefer Garmin though. It "was" easier to use with the intermidiate driver when I had dcd 3.1.6 installed...since 3.56 and 3.2.0 all have gone to hell...works very sporadically.
The biggest difference to me is with Garmin I can select just a few states about 4 or 5 and load them on my storage card (115 megs) as opposed to TomTom with no way to select the states you want (that I know of) to my storage card (just about 1 gig worth).
proxcee said:
I started out with TomTom...very good app. A friend of mine had me give Garmin XT a try...another good app. I'm starting to prefer Garmin though. It "was" easier to use with the intermidiate driver when I had dcd 3.1.6 installed...since 3.56 and 3.2.0 all have gone to hell...works very sporadically.
The biggest difference to me is with Garmin I can select just a few states about 4 or 5 and load them on my storage card (115 megs) as opposed to TomTom with no way to select the states you want (that I know of) to my storage card (just about 1 gig worth).
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Good info proxcee...yeah I am still on 3.16 I may pause here for a moment...
Between the two apps, how did the maps look or the map rendering as it navigated along? ...about the same. I like on the car version how it shows buildings but this might not be an option for the mobile version...???
One thing I was looking for that the TomTom does not do was to see if Garmin Mobile app announce street names for the next turn...???
proxcee said:
The biggest difference to me is with Garmin I can select just a few states about 4 or 5 and load them on my storage card (115 megs) as opposed to TomTom with no way to select the states you want (that I know of) to my storage card (just about 1 gig worth).
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How were you able to do this? I just have a giant 1GB .IMG file...
I have a 2GB SD and an 8GB on order, so it's not really a matter of space - I'm just thinking that a smaller map would yield better performance...
One thing I was looking for that the TomTom does not do was to see if Garmin Mobile app announce street names for the next turn...???
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You won't find that on mobile GPS software (as far as I know). I haven't tested TomTom7 yet, but neither TomTom6 or Garmin Mobile XT supports text to speech street names.
gc14 said:
You won't find that on mobile GPS software (as far as I know). I haven't tested TomTom7 yet, but neither TomTom6 or Garmin Mobile XT supports text to speech street names.
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Yeah...it would be cool...but I've never come across any that do either.
I have Garmin and it si possible to split the maps into smaller ones, but if u already have the .img file then i think ur out of luck u need the mapsource i think its called.
gc14 said:
You won't find that on mobile GPS software (as far as I know). I haven't tested TomTom7 yet, but neither TomTom6 or Garmin Mobile XT supports text to speech street names.
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SprintNav announces street names.
gc14 said:
You won't find that on mobile GPS software (as far as I know). I haven't tested TomTom7 yet, but neither TomTom6 or Garmin Mobile XT supports text to speech street names.
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OK...this is what I really wanted to know
Iguidance announces street names. Here's a demo: http://www.buygpsnow.com/iguidance-v4-gps-navigation-software-version-4-for-north-america-dvd-runs-on-pocket-pc-pc-and-umpc-864.aspx
bassett said:
Iguidance announces street names. Here's a demo: http://www.buygpsnow.com/iguidance-v4-gps-navigation-software-version-4-for-north-america-dvd-runs-on-pocket-pc-pc-and-umpc-864.aspx
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This is a nice feather but before I jump ship how does it compare to tt6? Or Garmin is someone has compared,
I don't own Iguidance but I've used it on a friend's device, so my comments here are someone limited. I find the interface of TT6 and Iguidance to be equally good (neither struck me as having any particular weaknesses of note). The displays are good and menu navigation is intuitive and easy.
TomTom offers "plus" services like weather and traffice....Iguidance does not appear to.
Iguidance may require some tweaking with GPSGate to get it to work properly on the Mogul. This guide at ppcgeeks gives some insight:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=248345&postcount=282
There are tons of comparisons on the Internet. A quick glance this morning showed that it's a mixed bag as to what people prefer. I hope this is helpful.
parcou said:
I spotted a copy of Garmin 2009 recently and downloaded it. By chance can anyone here tell me their experiences with TomTom compared to Garmin?
I currently have TomTom6 on my vz6800 but was curious about this application now?
Thx
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i had both of these on my phone at the same time to compare, i kept the tomtom and kiboshed the garmin. with the tomtom the maps just worked, while with garmin i had to select maps by small sections from my desktop to have them work. I also prefered the tomtom menu system and found the poi's to be superior.
Garmin Mobile XT for WM6.1 pro
Hi,
I am new to Garmin, just installed Garmin Mobile XT v5.00.10w(cracked) in my HTC Touch 3G, i found that it tooks too long time for "Awaiting better GPS Accuracy" while i am driving on the road where the weather is actually good(clear sky). Sometimes can be 20-30mins long for "start navigation".
Can anybody advise me what's problem with my Garmin? Is this a setting problem? Or it doesn't cracked properly? It was cracked by the HTC shop's promoter where i bought it.
Besides, i tried to copy additional vehicles into "vehicles" folder, and when i launch Garmin, it becomes trial version, but it disappear after i deleted the newly copied vehicle files from the vehicles' folder.
Could you please kindly advise me?
Thank you in advance for your advise..
Vincent

NEW Windows Live Search

Have you guys checked out the NEW Windows Live Search?
* Map your friends: Grabs addresses from your contact list, puts them on the map, and provides directions.
* View Virtual Earth collections: Lets you check out maps of locations/events shared by members of the community.
* Web search: Launch web search directly from the client to find web pages, product price comparisons and reviews, news, images, etc.
* Weather: Check the current weather, or a 4 day forecast.
If you have it the older version installed all you have to do is run Windows Live Search and check for an update, but if you don't have it installed check out
http://wls.live.com and you can download it from there.
Thnx for the heads up
Thanks for the heads up!
This is the program I use for driving directions and they are good. The Telenav that's included form Sprint took me a mile down a backroad to the edge of a lake because I chose "shortest distance"!! WLS directions have never pulled that crap on me : )
Plus... since I got no2's mogul tools and hid the extended rom I can actually use a huge cache.
This is the best program now.
Yeah especially the gas prices feature...with gas being absolutely ridiculously expensive...handy little tool. Already have pushed Google Maps to the side for this new version.
Love this new version,also don't forget there's also a new mini weather app included.
Nice. I did some mapping with the last ver of Live using contacts and it was always way off.
[EDIT] Score, it's accurate. Tried some addresses and they all mapped correctly.
Sadly for routing and gas it remains limited to the USA & UK..
How is this version in regards to memory. The previous version seemed to hog a lot of resources for it run.
Thanks
What did you guys do to get the GPS to work? Are you using the GPS launcher?
I have tried the default settings in GPS as well as changing the COM port to the one indicated in GPS settings. (both settings in Win Live)
Google Maps works perfectly with no issue. Any suggestions? I would really like to try out this new version of Windows Live!
Thanks.
-Sayajin
SSJSayajin said:
What did you guys do to get the GPS to work? Are you using the GPS launcher?
I have tried the default settings in GPS as well as changing the COM port to the one indicated in GPS settings. (both settings in Win Live)
Google Maps works perfectly with no issue. Any suggestions? I would really like to try out this new version of Windows Live!
Thanks.
-Sayajin
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I'm using GPS Viewer to prime the GPS. It seems Live search screws up the GPS too, need to soft reset to get it working again. I need to update my radio/rom tho still.
GPS worked right after flashing dcd's new rom for me. I have Sprint Navigation installed too, not sure if that helps but I use it so it also.
Just fine for me
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I'm using GPS Viewer to prime the GPS. It seems Live search screws up the GPS too, need to soft reset to get it working again. I need to update my radio/rom tho still.
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Works perfectly for me. It's All about having the 3.35(.04) radio.
GPS needs no enablers or extra programs Google maps AND Live Search work perfectly. So well, in fact, that even (in the rare cases) I loose signal and the data connection Live search will keep track of me on a blank or fuzzy map : )

iGuidance Users...What up with this app...

I use tt6 and was looking for a backup and since iGuidance call the street names I picked this one...
Testing iGuidance on my vx6800 has been bad...first:
1. The GPS does not move properly or track as I drive. It just sits there then eventually it will move
2. Keep in mind #1...when I purposely miss a turn it takes it forever to recalculate. I can be a 1/4 or 1/2 mile down the road before the screen moves or do anything as in #1
This is iGuidance v4 and I am on rom 3.12 radio 3.39. Keep in mind that tt6 works like a charm fast, accurate as I drive, recalculates instantly...for iGuidance I do have the maps & app running on my sd card just like tt6..
so what gives with this app..?
I'm having the same problem. Subscribing to this thread for further feedback.
Sorry to here that...hoping others who use it have found a tweak fix...
Out of curiosity, do you use GPSGate and the instructions here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=248345&postcount=282
GPS Gate is, definately, the solution. I have been using it since the GPS was enabled in March with no problems. www.gpsgate.com
matt
bassett & livejazz
I will read this but can you two give a layout on how you use this and how it works for you? This thread is on iGuidance so my initial assumption is the info you posted will help us with iGuidance and overcome it's lack of not tracking with the car....???
Pls advise...
thx
I've only played with Iguidance on a friend's Mogul (I'm a bit more tech savvy so I often help him out). All I can say is we were unable to get it to work properly for weeks....until we found the above information. Prior to GPSGate the maps would not load (hang) or routing would be extremely slow. Now it is snappy with no lags...no lost signal...etc.. The steps are rather clear in the above link.
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Out of curiosity, do you use GPSGate and the instructions here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=248345&postcount=282
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I can't get that link to work. Can someone give me the low down on how to use GPSGate to fix this? I'd like to see if IGuidance can work for me. I've played with iGO a bit and while it looks really nice, it also just about locks up me device in terms of all the memory used. iGuiance uses a LOT less memory so I can actually use some other stuff with it.
As I understand it, GPSGate works as an intermediary driver between IGuidance and the Windows Mobile GPS driver, by emulating the output of the GPS onto another port (user selectable), which IGuidance reads without a problem (and updates in realtime, no lag). It fixed the problem for me. More info can be found in the GPS internal FAQ. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363431
The Astro launcher & script written by TalynOne is very good for launching GPS Gate, Astro launcher and IGuidance all at the same time.
Just start GPSGate when you start Iguidance. Make sure your ports are setup correct and it will just work.
Good luck.
Have any of you tried iGo 8? It's fantastic, and by far the BEST interface of any of the GPS progs out there.
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Have any of you tried iGo 8? It's fantastic, and by far the BEST interface of any of the GPS progs out there.
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Yes, I have, and I do like the appearance far more than iGuidance. However, iGO chews up HUGE amounts of RAM. iGuidance runs much leaner, meaning I can have more going on without locking up my device.
I still have to completely test iGuidance, but it appears to do what I need it to do, a little less pretty, but I can live with that if it works better for me.
Ok, I'll chime in but not sure how much this will help...
I'm running the stock Verizon 6.1 ROM with Valhalla's MR1 GPS fix and Franson's GPS Gate. What I have to do is make sure that GPS is open under WM GPS (allowing me to use the built-in GPS chipset in conjuction with Valhalla's program). Once the GPS Icon is green (under 7 seconds) then I can launch IGuidance and everything works fine.
I noticed you mentioned that you are using 4.0 - the version I have is 4.0.2 which is supposed to fix some bugs that 4.0 had.

Opinion: Best GPS Navigator?

Hey all,
I routinely use my Titan browser to look up the address of a business, then put that address in a GPS Navigator program to navigate to that address. I was wondering what you all think is the be all/end all program to complete this task. I've been using iGo 8 as it's got by far the best interface and maps, though you can't look up a business while in the program. I've also used Google Maps which does a great job of looking up the business address, but a crap job of navigating you to it. Finally, I've used Yahoo Go! a little bit, which is ok, but not the best. I welcome all your opinions...
Mapquest Navigator does a good job for me after using SprintNav for a long time for free....... Lots of feature and 50 bucks a year is alright.
i use tom tom 7 with maps usa & canada works great locks in 5 seconds in the basemant also names and addreses i am gettin from live search and save them in contacts list so its easy to navigate in tom tom
Not sure if its the best, but I've been very happy with iGuidance.
Once I got gpsGate and aGPS it has been flawless.
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Mapquest Navigator does a good job for me after using SprintNav for a long time for free....... Lots of feature and 50 bucks a year is alright.
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Crud, apparently mapquest navigator does not support verizon?!?
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Crud, apparently mapquest navigator does not support verizon?!?
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My guess is they say that because Verizon locks down the gps so you can only use it with VZ Navigator, but if you're on this site, I'm sure you have enabled it on your XV6800, so I would still give it a try.
Microsoft Live Search.
It does a great job at searching and the routing isn't bad either. It only has a 'ding' as you approach a turn, no voice navigation.
I have TomTom and hate it. IMHO, Live Search is very good compared to TT.
I'm a Garmin XT user my self. I've loaded City guide and Topo maps on it so if I'm in the city or out in the woods I've got it covered. It uses the same maps and charts that have been produced for Garmins other devices. I haven't looked in to it yet but the Ocean navigational charts should be able to load on there also.
Due to my rural location data is not reliable. When hiking hundreds of miles from the nearest tower its not even an after thought. So i prefer to have all of the map data located on my 8gb HCSD. The entire Island of Newfoundland is ~20 mb for each map.
The Dir. on the device is 4.8 mb (for V5) the rest is on the card.
The City guide maps are the most detailed i have seen yet. Many of the smaller roads in my area were not on Tom Tom.
The down side is that it costs quite a bit. I have mapsource software from other devices so it wasn't that much for me. I have seen reference to a "re-pack" from other discussions, located on the torrent sites but that's at your own risk.
Chris
Live search and Google maps.......best free apps....I prefer Livesearch......
Sprint Navigation is also great for a free app....
TT7 is my software of choice. i dont know about anyone else, but i kinda like variety in my GPS, so i pretty much have all of them and pick and choose based on what im feelin and whichever one i press first.
I've tried a number of programs:
iGO: Beautiful maps, great interface, good voice prompts, very accurate... but it's a HUGE memory hog. You can't do anything else when running it. I've even had my phone fail because of lack of memory. Not acceptable if I can't make and receive calls.
iGuidance: Very low memory usage. Accurate. Buttons are small, hard to use when in the car. Graphics are not great looking. I had some quirks with the display when switching between Landscape and Portrait modes.
TomTom: Graphics are better than iGuidance, not as good as iGo. Buttons are large and easy to use in the car. Accurate. Memory usage is low. I was able to plot and follow a 2.5 hour trip and play my music with Media Player without an hitch in TomTom or the music.
All things considered, I'd love to use iGo, but the huge amount of memory usage makes it a not go for the Titan's wimpy 64megs. TomTom uses a lot less memory and is only a small step down from iGo's graphics.
Garmin Mobile XT with the newest patch/ver
I am useing Garmin Mobile XT and am on ver 5.00.20wp and it works great and new features integrate onling functions very well. Graphics are best I have seen and it gives gas prices, locations, speed limits, cameras, and google looks up stuff thats not in your database of poi's.
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I am useing Garmin Mobile XT and am on ver 5.00.20wp and it works great and new features integrate onling functions very well. Graphics are best I have seen and it gives gas prices, locations, speed limits, cameras, and google looks up stuff thats not in your database of poi's.
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Another vote here... Garmin Mobile XT seems to integrate the best of the online services (gas prices, traffic, etc) with the ability to be used as a true standalone GPS (not reliant on a data connection). I travel a few places where I lose my data connection (no phone service at all) and Garmin doesn't even blink, with all the map info stored on the microSD card.
IGo 8
IGO 8 is by far the smoothest, sexiest and quickest recalculating map and trust me I have used them all.
Cons: You must disable everything running in the background before using. I have never had a problem with receiving calls. I leave my bluetooth headset hooked up while navigating so my device can remain in holster. Just do a soft reset before you run the program run oxios hibernate and if you have about 25 megs free initially I drove 2600 miles with it recaluculating and just sitting still while I went in no problems.
Garmin XT is my second choice because I find it easy to use and very dependable.
Live Search and Google Maps require internet connection and were useless in the smokey mountains, except to prime agps.
Garmin XT
I have Garmin XT and it's great. I also use Google maps from time to time, it's better if you want to check out an area you kind of know real fast and also it has the sat maps which can be nice sometimes. But for actual naviagation Garmin blows Google away. Memory is sometimes an issue but with the latest DCD 3.2.6 it's less and less of a prob.

Best GPS for Android?

I have currently the Epic 4g Touch from Sprint and i'm using google navigation and was wondering if there were other options that are better, that post speed limits and such? I heard telenav and navigon were pretty good? Any suggestions?
Telenav is good, but not as good as Google Navugation. Neither to my knowledge post speed limits, or even give you your current speed. That would be a nice feature. I use Google Nav myself.
I've tried a number of different apps but I always come back to Google Maps + Navigation. It works just about everywhere and supports offline. I just haven't found anything that is "better enough" to switch.
Did you try NAVIGON? A friend of mine used it and he loved it..
For me GoogleMaps as a free service is still the best
Google Maps is definitely the best. If your GPS is acting wonky, I like GPS AIDS. Seemed to fix me right up on my Streak.
Navigation by Google for me .
Hi I am using Sygic Aura..it works gr8 on my SGII...you dont need an active data connection...I would really recommend this....
I aam using Sygic Mobile Maps 10 on my wildfire and it is very good!It also says the speed of the vehicle and also estimates the time remaining to arrive!
I have tried the Mapquest app for Android, but nothing beats Google Navigation Beta.
Anyone try out waze? I have it but it currently force closes on ICS, so hopefully they a fix out for ICS...lifehacker really liked it.
How about a GPS that can plan a detour for you? Often I'd like to find a good place to eat on the way to a client. I saw a couple in the market, but they were both totally broken. Yelp integration would be sweet too.
I found Trapster has pretty accurate speed limits on it's GPS system. Most everything works well and then there's the added benefit of seeing where the PoPo hide in unfamiliar territory.
Places (the big Red exclamation point) that comes on a lot of Android phones now, seems to do a good job finding restaurants in new places. Just tell it what your craving!
Hope that helps.
I vote for navigation from google maps. It's the best
Sygic Navigation is very good and has got all good features mentioned by others here. You can customize it as per your own settings and very accurate in terms of map.
Google Navigation has given me issues, but NAVIGON usually works very well for me.
Navigation by Google
I've started using waze. Haven't tried it for much, but it does seem to have been patched to work with ICS (I'm using ICS Passion on a Samsung Vibrant.)
I agree.....Navigation by Google has worked very well for me. I travel the country quite a bit.
Navigation by google the best no doubt, i recommend to use it
sygic is good

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