Wow. It's lush. What a really good-looking phone. Having already owned the Kaiser, Diamond and TouchPro, I'm looking forward to getting my teeth into this over the weekend.
Update:
Cool things:
1. Exchange and push email setup easily and working perfectly.
2. Great battery life.
Problems:
1. When I press the power button momentarily (in the hope of switching the screen off) it gives me power off and profile options. There doesn't seem to be a way of just switching the screen off easily.
2. HTC Today screen doesn't show all-day items and there doesn't appear to be a way of showing more upcoming appointments.
3. it's not easy to play solitaire! Although they have included it (phew) it's more than a little tedious with number presses. And there's no option for cumulative and vegas scoring. What kind of solitaire is THAT?
4. Sometimes it seems I need to press the "call" or "end call" keys extra hard. I have started pressing the "end call" key twice as a matter of course, just to be sure.
5. "Batti" doesn't work.
I too am searching for a quick and easy one key click to lock & turn off the display.....my Palm Treo Pro and Touch had this ability.....quick check email/txt, then hit key and it turns off display & locks for pocket protection....
baliles said:
I too am searching for a quick and easy one key click to lock & turn off the display.....my Palm Treo Pro and Touch had this ability.....quick check email/txt, then hit key and it turns off display & locks for pocket protection....
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Press and hold the call end key to lock the phone quickly (and dim the screen). This is the same as the S710 and S730.
You can also set this lock to kick in automatically after x minutes in the settings menu as well
rb14 said:
Wow. It's lush. What a really good-looking phone. Having already owned the Kaiser, Diamond and TouchPro, I'm looking forward to getting my teeth into this over the weekend.
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I must admit, I have had this a couple of days now and am soooo impressed (I have an S710 before). I had decided to go for the Touch Pro but after 3 faulty handsets and the experience of the really buggy software (does ANYBODY really think a daily reboot is acceptable) I decided to wait for this one.
But the one thing that stands out more than anything else on this phone is that with 3G push mail, wifi on full time, bluetooth on, a bit of GPS use loads of calls and general use, I am getting almost 24 hours out of the battery. That alone is worth the upgrade
networkguy said:
Press and hold the call end key to lock the phone quickly (and dim the screen). This is the same as the S710 and S730.
You can also set this lock to kick in automatically after x minutes in the settings menu as well
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Yeah, got there in the end. Nevertheless, I'd prefer a single-touch operation.
networkguy said:
I must admit, I have had this a couple of days now and am soooo impressed (I have an S710 before). I had decided to go for the Touch Pro but after 3 faulty handsets and the experience of the really buggy software (does ANYBODY really think a daily reboot is acceptable) I decided to wait for this one.
But the one thing that stands out more than anything else on this phone is that with 3G push mail, wifi on full time, bluetooth on, a bit of GPS use loads of calls and general use, I am getting almost 24 hours out of the battery. That alone is worth the upgrade
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My experience with the TouchPro is certainly not as bad as yours. I love it still. Originally the battery life wasn't better than a day, but it would easily last that. It was totally stable. Always. And once I upgraded the firmware and radio, it became a different animal altogether. I usually get two days out of it with good use. Sometimes three.
The S740 is actually for my less-geeky partner who I think will find it easier. Now though, I have it for a few weeks' "testing" and if I prefer it...
...well, you know. Who's in charge here?
rb14 said:
2. HTC Today screen doesn't show all-day items and there doesn't appear to be a way of showing more upcoming appointments.
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Yes, it does show all-day items. And to show more upcoming appointments just hit right softkey ("Today").
I'm thinking of upgrading from an S730, which suffers really badly from a lack of memory (64Mb). I know the S740 has 256Mb RAM but can anyone tell me how much is actually available after a soft-reset? This is the figure that's displayed as "Available Memory" on the "About" screen under the Settings menu.
Thanks
I'm wondering about battery life...
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I'm wondering about battery life...
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It's the best I have seen on any Windows smart phone EVER.
Today I left the house at 9, took the family on the train to London (a 2 hour trip) for which I spent most of the time with my son watching the progress of the train using the GPS and Google Maps whilst using the free WiFi on the train for data.
Push mail has been running all day and because it was central London, I got a good HSPDA signal for most of the time. I also made a handfull of calls during the day
We then spent the day around London (all that time on the underground with no signal always hammers a phone battery), I took a load of pictures and then we cam home again this evening (again tracking with GPS) and when I got home, the phone connected to the wifi and I synced all the photos back to my home PC. It is now nearly 10.30
So right here right now, my battery level is showing as 61%
boggle said:
I know the S740 has 256Mb RAM but can anyone tell me how much is actually available after a soft-reset?
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I currently have:
Available Memory: 125.34MB
Total Memory: 187.48MB
Please note that I have a few utilities running in the background, so available memory might be even a little bit higher when you first boot it.
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It's the best I have seen on any Windows smart phone EVER.
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My experience exactly. I don't quite understand how does this phone manages to get so much out of its 1000mAh battery, but it's amazing. It easily kills my previous PDA - TyTN II (which had 1350mAh) in terms of battery life in both standby and heavy usage
rb14 said:
Update:
Cool things:
1. Exchange and push email setup easily and working perfectly.
Problems:
1. When I press the power button momentarily (in the hope of switching the screen off) it gives me power off and profile options. There doesn't seem to be a way of just switching the screen off easily.
2. HTC Today screen doesn't show all-day items and there doesn't appear to be a way of showing more upcoming appointments.
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1 - Of course, this is a smartphone, not a PDA running WM6.1 Standard, it's the OS
I've received it yesterday and it works like a charm. Just wish there was a non-slider version, because the front keypad is good, that I don't need the qwerty keyboard.
networkguy said:
It's the best I have seen on any Windows smart phone EVER.
Today I left the house at 9, took the family on the train to London (a 2 hour trip) for which I spent most of the time with my son watching the progress of the train using the GPS and Google Maps whilst using the free WiFi on the train for data.
Push mail has been running all day and because it was central London, I got a good HSPDA signal for most of the time. I also made a handfull of calls during the day
We then spent the day around London (all that time on the underground with no signal always hammers a phone battery), I took a load of pictures and then we cam home again this evening (again tracking with GPS) and when I got home, the phone connected to the wifi and I synced all the photos back to my home PC. It is now nearly 10.30
So right here right now, my battery level is showing as 61%
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I'm with you on this. I was out of London for the weekend, playing, bluetoothing, GPSing, left it on all weekend and used the alarm, and came back with battery life to spare. That's cool.
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1 - Of course, this is a smartphone, not a PDA running WM6.1 Standard, it's the OS
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Yeah I know that. My point was probably poorly made. I was trying to make two points: that push email through Exchange is working perfectly with no issues and that setting it up was easy.
I so want this phone. As soon as I saw it online my jaw dropped, lol. Having owned 3 htc touches, a s710 vox and s621, i can say I do like HTC products, lol. I just got my 3rd touch, but it just doesn't feel right, the touch screen seems bad (my iphone spoiled me i think), and i can find a good reliable keyboard, so I think im gonna sell it and get another s710 until this phones comes down a bit.
Just curious, where did everyone on here get theirs from, and what kind of prices? I am in Canada, so I won't be able to buy it from a retail outlet
I got mine from Clove Technology in the UK and I'm sure they'll ship if you ask them nicely. I've used them for all my HTC phone purchases and plenty of other gear; they're very good to work with.
the 'amazing' 710
Guys
like everyone else I like the phone, however, I am just not getting the amazing battery life you are talking about.
From my phone on a full charge I am getting: -
Standby time - 6.5 hours
Talk Time - 53 minutes
Device usage - 4 hours 11 minutes
this is without Push E mail (polling every 5 mins) moderate use of wifi and GPS (less than 10 mins) and occasional but consistent use of OCS (office communicator mobile with power saving settings activated for those of you that know it)
so I wondered if people could read from their settings and post, I cant really handle another phone that needs 2 or 3 batterys in a day!
Kerry
S74 not S710
kerryburn said:
Guys
like everyone else I like the phone, however, I am just not getting the amazing battery life you are talking about.
From my phone on a full charge I am getting: -
Standby time - 6.5 hours
Talk Time - 53 minutes
Device usage - 4 hours 11 minutes
this is without Push E mail (polling every 5 mins) moderate use of wifi and GPS (less than 10 mins) and occasional but consistent use of OCS (office communicator mobile with power saving settings activated for those of you that know it)
so I wondered if people could read from their settings and post, I cant really handle another phone that needs 2 or 3 batterys in a day!
Kerry
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I think you'll find they were talking about the S740 not the S710.
Apologies guys
Typo on my part, thanks Pete,
I do mean the 740, that is what i am using, I had the 710 before hence my mistake!
I have turned off HSDPA, moved to manual polling on e mail to see if this improves the appalling figures.
Pete now I have corrected this, do you have a 740 and if so what is your performance??
Kerry
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So this morning when the local AT&T store opened I went and purchased the white note; Below are a few impressions after using the device non stop for 8 hours.
I asked the AT&T employee right off the bat which way he leaned toward the initial charging of the device. He recommended popping the sim / battery in and running it down until it reached the battery low level and then letting it charge to full, which I did.
It took about 3 hours to reach 10% from whatever it came out of the box charged at. During that time I synced Google, downloaded Netflix and various other apps to test out performance with.
In my area we only have 4G speeds and no idea when lte will be here so all of my initial testing was done with WiFi off using only 4G. I can't give you exact numbers since I had no network benchmarking tools installed, but I can tell you that browsing on the Note, compared to the HTC Inspire; The Note is much faster. Same with Market access and App downloading. To use as an example, Angry Birds Rio took 8 seconds from the time I clicked Install until it had downloaded and was installing.
Netflix downloaded and installed without incident, and movie playback on 4G was smooth, There was generally a 3 - 5 second period between pressing play and the start of any given movie. Skipping around in movies generally took 3 seconds to sync and continue playing. As far as graphical lag or stuttering I never experienced any video issues at all. Total time in NetFlix was about 30 Minuets.
Google Music playback was equally quick. It synced with my account and music would start streaming within 2 seconds of clicking play. Pandora had similar results, within a couple of seconds, changing between my defined stations and music would start right up.
Google Maps / Gps / Latitude: VERY FAST gps response. Took 10 seconds the very first time I started maps, 3 to 4 seconds each time after that initial fix. Indoors (Non metal building) resulted in a decent gps fix, that's something I never could get on my HTC Inspire.
I decided to use Swype over the default Samsung keyboard since I was use to it on my previous phone. Even holding in one hand and using my thumb, text input was fast and accurate, no lag. I can't give any input on the S-Pen as I am no artist, but pen to screen lag is less than those stupid department store screens where you sign your name.
Right now I'm getting ready to put my Dell Streak 7 / With Dock on eBay and re coupe some of the money I sent today, but I am VERY happy with this phone. I can't wait for ICS!
jb0nd38372 said:
So this morning when the local AT&T store opened I went and purchased the white note; Below are a few impressions after using the device non stop for 8 hours.
I asked the AT&T employee right off the bat which way he leaned toward the initial charging of the device. He recommended popping the sim / battery in and running it down until it reached the battery low level and then letting it charge to full, which I did.
It took about 3 hours to reach 10% from whatever it came out of the box charged at. During that time I synced Google, downloaded Netflix and various other apps to test out performance with.
In my area we only have 4G speeds and no idea when lte will be here so all of my initial testing was done with WiFi off using only 4G. I can't give you exact numbers since I had no network benchmarking tools installed, but I can tell you that browsing on the Note, compared to the HTC Inspire; The Note is much faster. Same with Market access and App downloading. To use as an example, Angry Birds Rio took 8 seconds from the time I clicked Install until it had downloaded and was installing.
Netflix downloaded and installed without incident, and movie playback on 4G was smooth, There was generally a 3 - 5 second period between pressing play and the start of any given movie. Skipping around in movies generally took 3 seconds to sync and continue playing. As far as graphical lag or stuttering I never experienced any video issues at all. Total time in NetFlix was about 30 Minuets.
Google Music playback was equally quick. It synced with my account and music would start streaming within 2 seconds of clicking play. Pandora had similar results, within a couple of seconds, changing between my defined stations and music would start right up.
Google Maps / Gps / Latitude: VERY FAST gps response. Took 10 seconds the very first time I started maps, 3 to 4 seconds each time after that initial fix. Indoors (Non metal building) resulted in a decent gps fix, that's something I never could get on my HTC Inspire.
I decided to use Swype over the default Samsung keyboard since I was use to it on my previous phone. Even holding in one hand and using my thumb, text input was fast and accurate, no lag. I can't give any input on the S-Pen as I am no artist, but pen to screen lag is less than those stupid department store screens where you sign your name.
Right now I'm getting ready to put my Dell Streak 7 / With Dock on eBay and re coupe some of the money I sent today, but I am VERY happy with this phone. I can't wait for ICS!
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Nice review. I've been thinking about getting one of contract so before I spend that much money on something I want to make sure I'll be satisfied with it fresh out the box.
By the power of Exynos.
I don't think I want to install ICS with touchwiz as it looks horrible, but I will definentaly get CM9
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The AT&T Version is Snap Dragon, not Exynos. But performance wise, it surpassed my expectations!
Infekxion said:
Nice review. I've been thinking about getting one of contract so before I spend that much money on something I want to make sure I'll be satisfied with it fresh out the box.
By the power of Exynos.
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The AT&T Version is Snap Dragon, not Exynos. But performance wise, it surpassed my expectations!
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"By the power of Exynos" is the signature of my SGS2
ics is really nice on the Note. I have a rom installed on my int note.
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October Edition just arrived, 6 months late, but it did arrive and it did work (albeit with the additional Cradle not in the box)
Charged, set up email to send myself the Google Play apk; double clicked it and everything worked fine. Activated my Android and all working well.
Downloaded some apps, inc spotify and mapmyrun. Added a sim card and sd card - not well designed really. The galaxy s5 shows how simple it is to do and retain waterproofing. The Omate, with tiny fiddly screws, rubber bits, non symetrical cover etc was something I hope not to have to do again; which renders my spare battery a bit pointless. I was expecting to pop off the back and swap a drained battery for a charged one, as I can do on a mobile.
However, with battery at 67% went for a 1 hour run and with GPS, Wifi, Data and Bluetooth active (music to BT Headphones and running data being tracked) battery only went down 20% - impressive! and confirmed I can give up the GPS watch...
All good, but definitely some sticking points. Wifi at one point wouldn't re-activate, without a long reboot. The keyboard can drive you insane, especially entering masked passwords - the keyboard can be supersensitive and fire off several characters at once by accident, so you have to start again. The 'show passwords' option doesn't always work.
The navigation seems awkward and inconsistent - i wish there was a back button, the swipe left often triggers an option or menu unintentionally so you have to go back twice and when the same thing happens again, it's not long before you give up and press the home button...
Maybe it's just some getting used to - day 1 and all that!
Overall this is an incredible piece of tech and will be a big benefit to my lifestyle. It requires a change of thinking I suspect, but one that is welcome, so overall I am very pleased with the first impression.
I think the answer to your question about whether you have day 1 frustrations is: yes and no.
I put on Lokifish's latest ROM and did a few other tweaks (principally Daniel Ortiz's recommended GPS fix) and then started from there. I played with the out-of-the-box version for a total of two minutes before I became monumentally frustrated with the sensitivity of the touch screen, and the keyboard seemed to trigger letters even when I was just hovering over the screen trying to make a more accurate 'tap'. Maybe it was placebo effect but the Lokifish ROM seemed to be better calibrated, though I still avoid using the keyboard for anything other than tapping in passwords to get accounts setup.
The first app that gave me an inkling that the TS is a 'keeper' is Runkeeper. (pun!) I'm actually not so much of a runner, but I use Runkeeper on my main device to track my cycling and I log my circuit and swim training data on the web which integrates across the other apps I use to collect and manage fitness data (Withings Body Analyzer, Myfitnesspal, Fitbit). The thought of being able to dispense with multiple tracking apps/devices and perhaps even leaving the big phone at home (the Z1s doesn't have the brightest screen anyway) was one of the main draws of the TrueSmart. But the real 'killer app' feature for me was the ability to use this TrueSmart as an 'all day wearer' *and* have it work in-water to capture swim data. But After six months of waiting (like you) and seeing the not-really-waterproof drama unfold, I was pretty much ready to put this thing on eBay on day 0.
However, Runkeeper/Ride with GPS plus Cyril Preiss' "SWApps" has just about sold me on keeping the device, or at least rekindled my interest enough to see whether its worth pursuing some form of aftermarket waterproofing approach. (currently being hashed out in another thread here)
So in essence I concur with/confirm your findings. I still haven't found out how to get the auto-correct to behave on the keyboard, but I think that's as much about taking a grand-daddy step back to understand how the Fleksy is designed, and how to properly inflect the gestures to keep things from getting out-of-hand (pun!). I remember having *some* of the same trouble when going from the iPhone 4s to the Xperia Z1 (before the Z1s) and that keyboard drove me kuh-ray-zee until I figured out the whole swipe-your-finger-to-spell-the-word thing worked. Then suddenly I wondered how anyone would type on one of these things any other way.
So - I'm coming around to seeing the advantages of the TrueSmart, and more to the point *really* understanding why Lokifish, Cyril, Kurt, Daniel and so many others here see in the platform - and continue to invest time and effort into it.
Oh - and as to the battery drain, I just ran my TS down to 15% and then connected it to a Waka Waka to charge, and while I didn't have it timed it's already back to 100%. Solar powered smartwatch - now we're talkin'. So instead of thinking about a snap-in/out solution for the battery I'm looking at/for a 'gator glip' charger cable or some other light-weight charger connection for the TS (I thought I saw them online somewhere, and OMate was offering them at first - I'd prefer that to the case for workout/outdoor activities where space is a premium). I'm also looking into how to/whether I can set up profiles that are more like "give me what you got" versus "all-day wearer" mode. On the Sony Xperia Z1s there's a "Stamina Mode" which tamps down on battery drain, but can also kill functionality of apps that are not in the foreground (bad news for Panobike cycling cadence meter, etc) so while I have *some* apps exempted from Stamina Mode, when I'm doing a dedicated outing I just switch it off completely - knowing that I'm going to be putting the device on charge by either using one of the portable packs I'm carrying with me - or when I get back to the car.
Anyway, food for thought...
Thanks for the reply, it's good to share tips and tricks!
I saw that Loki has actually abandoned TrueSmart. Frustrations with their updates and lack of support I think.
Primarily for me this watch was a replacement sports tracker, but my hopes for an all-purpose watch are not looking good as the blue-tooth tethering is not working with my S5; it pairs successfully, but doesn't connect, so the TrueSmart Master app is useless.
The TS also doesn't connect to my BT headset for voice, but it did connect with the JayBird headphones (although the cutting out was super irritating).
In Summary - BlueTooth not reliable and will be a deal-breaker as I would have to carry my phone anyway.
Couple with the infuriating keyboard and inconsistent navigation, (I've now tried the LMT dial thing, which also doesn't work properly) I'm losing interest fast - which is a shame as it could be so good.
For charging, my GPS watch uses a clip as you describe. So much better than the cradle which renders the watch inaccessible while it's charging. But why not a simple USB port with a cover, like the S5....(a proper waterproof phone). Even the solar charger will then require carrying two separate items for the TS...
You can set up profiles on an app called Easy Battery Saver - I used it on my last phone and installed it for TS. It works as described and easy to activate/de-activate.
I will keep with the TS a while longer, but I suspect the next Galaxy Gear, which is rumoured to be stand-alone, will be what we are really looking for...
Hope to hear more from you - I will post my next findings on the TS too.
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I think the answer to your question about whether you have day 1 frustrations is: yes and no.
I put on Lokifish's latest ROM and did a few other tweaks (principally Daniel Ortiz's recommended GPS fix) and then started from there. I played with the out-of-the-box version for a total of two minutes before I became monumentally frustrated with the sensitivity of the touch screen, and the keyboard seemed to trigger letters even when I was just hovering over the screen trying to make a more accurate 'tap'. Maybe it was placebo effect but the Lokifish ROM seemed to be better calibrated, though I still avoid using the keyboard for anything other than tapping in passwords to get accounts setup.
The first app that gave me an inkling that the TS is a 'keeper' is Runkeeper. (pun!) I'm actually not so much of a runner, but I use Runkeeper on my main device to track my cycling and I log my circuit and swim training data on the web which integrates across the other apps I use to collect and manage fitness data (Withings Body Analyzer, Myfitnesspal, Fitbit). The thought of being able to dispense with multiple tracking apps/devices and perhaps even leaving the big phone at home (the Z1s doesn't have the brightest screen anyway) was one of the main draws of the TrueSmart. But the real 'killer app' feature for me was the ability to use this TrueSmart as an 'all day wearer' *and* have it work in-water to capture swim data. But After six months of waiting (like you) and seeing the not-really-waterproof drama unfold, I was pretty much ready to put this thing on eBay on day 0.
However, Runkeeper/Ride with GPS plus Cyril Preiss' "SWApps" has just about sold me on keeping the device, or at least rekindled my interest enough to see whether its worth pursuing some form of aftermarket waterproofing approach. (currently being hashed out in another thread here)
So in essence I concur with/confirm your findings. I still haven't found out how to get the auto-correct to behave on the keyboard, but I think that's as much about taking a grand-daddy step back to understand how the Fleksy is designed, and how to properly inflect the gestures to keep things from getting out-of-hand (pun!). I remember having *some* of the same trouble when going from the iPhone 4s to the Xperia Z1 (before the Z1s) and that keyboard drove me kuh-ray-zee until I figured out the whole swipe-your-finger-to-spell-the-word thing worked. Then suddenly I wondered how anyone would type on one of these things any other way.
So - I'm coming around to seeing the advantages of the TrueSmart, and more to the point *really* understanding why Lokifish, Cyril, Kurt, Daniel and so many others here see in the platform - and continue to invest time and effort into it.
Oh - and as to the battery drain, I just ran my TS down to 15% and then connected it to a Waka Waka to charge, and while I didn't have it timed it's already back to 100%. Solar powered smartwatch - now we're talkin'. So instead of thinking about a snap-in/out solution for the battery I'm looking at/for a 'gator glip' charger cable or some other light-weight charger connection for the TS (I thought I saw them online somewhere, and OMate was offering them at first - I'd prefer that to the case for workout/outdoor activities where space is a premium). I'm also looking into how to/whether I can set up profiles that are more like "give me what you got" versus "all-day wearer" mode. On the Sony Xperia Z1s there's a "Stamina Mode" which tamps down on battery drain, but can also kill functionality of apps that are not in the foreground (bad news for Panobike cycling cadence meter, etc) so while I have *some* apps exempted from Stamina Mode, when I'm doing a dedicated outing I just switch it off completely - knowing that I'm going to be putting the device on charge by either using one of the portable packs I'm carrying with me - or when I get back to the car.
Anyway, food for thought...
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More success with BT pairing
More success today - got the bt headset (MyVoice 312) paired for calls, plus the jabra sport wireless+ bt headphones for music.... both devices paired and switch automatically when powering on and off.
Galaxy S5 also paired, but no joy with the SWAPPS app. I will keep trying with that, but it's actually a low priority since I have a sim for the TS ($10 per month for second sim with same number as primary sim)
Tonight I hope to try the Endomondo app on the TS paired with the Jabras, since they have a special feature that gives realtime data from the app when pushing a button on the headphones.
I can see it's going to take a while with the TS, but the tech is really good and offers a lot of promise. It's all about expectations I guess.
If the BT goes all intermittent again tonight I will be v disappointed as this is a basic but critical feature.
One problem I have had after exercising is that if you hand/fingers are sweaty then the TS goes nuts when you touch the screen - there really needs a sensitivity option (like on the S5)
Any pointers for best option for gaining Root Access to Omate TS? I notice that you have flashed Loki's 'latest' ROM, so presumably you have Rooted and flashed a Custom Recovery??
Best way to proceed--I would be grateful for a 'Heads-Up'.
BTW--I have, today, just received my October Dev Edition 1 GB 8 Gb 2100 Mhz version--and am looking at flashing Loki's ROM 20140328--is that the one to which you are referring?? or, do you have a different device version?
Any pointers--gratefully received.
I can't help you with the technical nuts and bolts as I am going to keep it all simple and hopefully working. No ROM flashes, install PlayStore and get your BT headset working.
Just that alone gives you a mobile on your wrist which is pretty damn cool for checking email, facebook, text, whatsapp and voice calls. Plus spotify, endomondo and maps!
The keyboard is a problem though, being so sensitive. And if it's raining, forget using it at all - not because of the water resistance, but because the screen just goes crazy with the water drops.
I am going to try Google Search/Voice to see if I can use voice commands on it.
Anyone else had luck with using voice?
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Any pointers for best option for gaining Root Access to Omate TS? I notice that you have flashed Loki's 'latest' ROM, so presumably you have Rooted and flashed a Custom Recovery??
Best way to proceed--I would be grateful for a 'Heads-Up'.
BTW--I have, today, just received my October Dev Edition 1 GB 8 Gb 2100 Mhz version--and am looking at flashing Loki's ROM 20140328--is that the one to which you are referring?? or, do you have a different device version?
Any pointers--gratefully received.
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Hey guys, I'm like a dev October backer and I get my watch this week-end. I have just started it today and after reading the lokifish topic I don't think it is a good idea for us to use our watches until we flashed a ROM with a secure kernel (the kernel of the 1/8/2100 is unsecure).
If you want to root your TS there is tons of solutions as it i a mediatek chip.
Can you recommend me a BT Headphone to par with my TS.
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Can you recommend me a BT Headphone to par with my TS.
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I'm using Backbeat Go 2 with my TS, I love the "minimalistic" approach to it. When not used I wear them like a necklace (you can attach the earbuds to eachother) and it's not in the way the slightest. It works great for taking phone calls, and I've tried it with both walking, biking and running with no issues. Volume controls, checking battery level, taking calls and such works great from the remote. Battery life is ok:ish, maybe a bit more than 3 hours total listening time. That is if you play music or talk on the phone non-stop, with moderate use (taking a few phonecalls during the day and similar) they last for days.
From what I hear the Backbeat Go 2 is more or less a ripoff of Jaybird Bluebuds X headphone (looks very similar), but the Jaybirds have better battery life, fits more securely in your ear for sporting and such - not that I ever had issues with that. The main thing that made me go with the Backbeat though is that it's about half the price.
Ok thanks. I'm gonna give a look to this.
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Blue-rayer said:
Can you recommend me a BT Headphone to par with my TS.
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After going through two Backbeats (not the Go, think it was 903 or something similar) I can state they are useless for exercising with, no resistance to water or sweat.
I then tried a pair of Philips SHB6017/10 and lasted a month before starting to randomly calling strange numbers due to shorting out. I'm not a sweaty person, honest!
Finally settled on Jabra Sport and they're awesome, have been using them for a year now.
Thanks to Amazon who refunded and replaced every single failed headphone, even sending out the replacements before I'd sent in the dead ones.
Cheers,
Andreas
I was actually playing around with the voice commands, you do have to setup loads of Google Apps, like Google search and Maps etc and give it permission to everything but it does work... I highly recommend using Nova launcher as it places the Mic search option right on the home screen.... which launches Google search... "Ok Google" and you're off.... I'm not sure how to get it to recognise OK Google without first having started the search app... Anyway some of my favourite things to ask for....
Take me home.... (Starts maps navigation)
Play some music (starts Google music and tries to play music)
Order Pizza (finds the nearest dominos)
What is iPhone (reads out definition of an iphone)
I want to try android wear device.I choose LG G Watch.
Because in India,LG G Watch is available for 6500 INR (105USD).
Can any one tell me the pros and cons for this watch?
Is good to buy?
I just posted this message in another thread, but it is relevant to your question, so here it is again......
I just got mine too, but I really like it.....
First, I have to have my phone encrypted for work reasons. Having the Wear Unlock feature is a Godsend.
Second, I really like having my email and other notifications right there on my wrist. 90% of the emails I get are unimportant, but the other 10% are critically important. Before having the watch, I didn't check my email as much as I should have due to the amount of low importance email. Now with the watch, it is quick and easy to see an incoming message and immediately delete the unimportant ones.
Third, I love Google Now. It may start out feeling like a gimmick, but the more you use it, the more you will depend on it as a important feature. I was really starting to use this feature on my phone (G3), but it was a pain to get my phone and turn the screen on before I could use it. Having the watch allows this experience to be much quicker since I don't have to touch my phone. It's even better than the Moto X with it's "always listening" mode because you get the results right on the watch. Sure, there are sometimes that I need to push the results to the phone, but many times I am fine with viewing the information right on the watch. Checking the traffic conditions is something I do regularly - even when traveling on secondary roads and not the highway.
Fourth - Navigation on the watch. Having the turn by turn directions on the watch means I can leave my phone screen turned off when using navigation. I don't have a car mount for my car, so trying to position the phone where I could watch the navigation queues was a pain. In fact, many times I simply listened to the voice instructions which wasn't ideal. Now having the steps appear on the watch is great!
Fifth, I like having the incoming phone calls vibrate the watch. I would miss calls sometimes because I didn't hear my phone ringing or feel it vibrate (if on silent). Now I'm much less likely to miss a call.
I use all of these features all the time, but it is especially nice to be able to put my phone down when I get home and not have to carry it around with me. I can place it in the middle of our house (in the Den) and it will stay connected to the watch pretty much wherever I am in the house. It's great to still get notifications and see who is calling without having to run to look at my phone.
Those are just some features off the top of my head that I have enjoyed with the new watch.
Thank you for your info.
What about battery life from your usage?
I charge it every day, but the watch has never died on me before I end the day - usually 15 hrs or longer. I've had the watch about a week now, so I didn't experienced the "pre-update" battery performance. The battery performance was worse on the early versions of the Wear OS, but by all accounts, it is pretty good now.
Thank you for your information.
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Just an update. Somehow my watch didn't charge last night - the charger must have gotten unplugged or something. I'm sitting at 11% battery life after about 26 hours.
I've had my gear S for 3 weeks now and really enjoy the device. I'm a everyday watch guy, so my biggest gripe about the gear s when it came in was the screen going black. I hated the motion activation or pressing the screen/button to wake up the device. I found that under settings-style-clock there is a clock always on setting. Once I turned this on, and turned off motion wakeup, very happy with being able to see time at an glance.
So this brings me to my question, why only do the first couple included watch faces have a nice analog always on black and white faces, every other one I've tried is just a simple, boring, and small digital time? Do people not use this feature, can you create this black and white always on face in watch styler and other watch face creation tools? Anyone know if a downloadable watchface in the gear store that has a nice always on black and white face?
New to the tizen camp and have been reading for days on the forums, having come across anything that addresses what I'm looking for. Thanks for reading
I purchased something called big watch and arranged for the screen to have an always on future. Battery life was nominal but you can also use the minimal watch face black and white. There's also some very light colored white dot matrix clocks as well. Just look through the Samsung store and you will find something.
Biggest problem with Clock Always On is the fact that the screen will be responsive to touch all the time. That results in random operation by the gear. The other day i was wearing long sleeves and ended up calling 2 people randomly.
Try it yourself, put it on always on and touch the screen, device will wake up, and you can end up calling people or any other random operation. Definitely not great.
hmm, I'm 3 weeks into always on mode, and yes the screen does respond to touch. Yet I havent had any real issues with unit being activated by my sleeves. I've been wearing a jacket everyday since owning the unit. Without Always ON Clock, I would not have kept the watch. I'm just disappointing with the the always on options from other watch faces.... looks like I'm sticking with stock faces for now.
I will try again and see if my sleeves will operate the watch on their own. Maybe that day my sleeves were full of static or something. It just freaked me out immensely because it ended up calling a business contact at a very late hour.
However, my second biggest problem with always on (even with the fancy samsung analog dials) is that you don't see anything except time. No pedometer, no notifications, no weather, nothing but time. You would still need to tap the screen to get any of that information. Even with the motion gesture you don't get to see anything more than time until you click, even though it gives the impression that the whole dial is lit up (this part is especially annoying).
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Biggest problem with Clock Always On is the fact that the screen will be responsive to touch all the time. That results in random operation by the gear. The other day i was wearing long sleeves and ended up calling 2 people randomly.
Try it yourself, put it on always on and touch the screen, device will wake up, and you can end up calling people or any other random operation. Definitely not great.
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I've been using clock always on for the last two weeks and have had no issue with my sleeves waking the device accidentally. as the above poster alluded to, it really does make it a better experience.
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And this brings me back to, are there any other watch faces that have a analog style, always on face? Even the low power faces on gear store, when you go to the always on clock face, its a crappy little digital clock... frustrating. If you make a watchface in watch styler, can you dictate what the always on clock face is??
I suppose that I will have to try the time on option and see if there are any accidental operations performed.
What is battery life with clock always on? Right now I get two days.
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What is battery life with clock always on? Right now I get two days.
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How do you get 2 days? Got mine 2 days ago and I'm barely past 14 hours and I only have 12% left and I just enabled Power Save mode. Please help. Thanks.
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How do you get 2 days? Got mine 2 days ago and I'm barely past 14 hours and I only have 12% left and I just enabled Power Save mode. Please help. Thanks.
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(1) The more time you spend with the watch's cellular radio on while not being connected to your phone via bluetooth, the less battery life.
(2) The more you stream music via the watch, the less battery life.
(3) The weaker cellular zone you live in (or pass through), the more battery drain. If cellular is on and your device has a weak connection or is searching for connection, the more battery drain.
(4) What network is your watch on? What network is your phone on? How good is your signal where you live? What phone are you using with the device? Is it running stock 4.3 or higher? Is it running a ROM?
I usually get 1.5 days with the always on clock. Typically 30-50% battery left when I charge at night with moderate to heavy use throughout day. I'm connected via BT to my phone 99% of the time.
WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW HOW TO MAKE/CHANGE SOME ALWAYS ON CLOCK FACES, ESPECIALLY IN WATCH STYLER!!!!!
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How do you get 2 days? Got mine 2 days ago and I'm barely past 14 hours and I only have 12% left and I just enabled Power Save mode. Please help. Thanks.
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I do not have any motions turned on. WiFi off. Only remote connect for an hour run and when I have to at the barn. I don't get a ton of emails.
At first it i didn't get 2 days. After several cycles the battery broke in and getting 2 days just sort of happened.
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WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW HOW TO MAKE/CHANGE SOME ALWAYS ON CLOCK FACES, ESPECIALLY IN WATCH STYLER!!!!!
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I suspect that it's something more complex than Watch Styler is likely to support, at least in the near future.
I was having a quick look round online the other day and even on a Tizen Developers forum, nobody seems to know how to make use of the 'Always On' feature.
I am a watchface developer and Iam trying to figure out how to make watchfaces like the first 2 native watchfaces.
I could not find the info yet.
If anyone has any idea, please share here...
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I am a watchface developer and Iam trying to figure out how to make watchfaces like the first 2 native watchfaces.
I could not find the info yet.
If anyone has any idea, please share here...
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Good thinking. Please do. We all would love to see nice looking watchfaceses in "clock always on" mode.
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Good thinking. Please do. We all would love to see nice looking watchfaceses in "clock always on" mode.
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Good idea as long as the power drain is not that much more.
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Good idea as long as the power drain is not that much more.
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According to my test it's about 13% of battery more consumed during 10h so it's not that bad I think...
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How do you get 2 days? Got mine 2 days ago and I'm barely past 14 hours and I only have 12% left and I just enabled Power Save mode. Please help. Thanks.
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Also try turning off the location setting on your gear S when you don't need to use it. Should help the battery last longer.
I'm using the motion to wake feature.
Hey all,
Have had my v10 for a bit over a week now. Concerned that I'm having a few too many problems.
1) The battery appears to be draining at a very fast rate. Relatively light to moderate use is lasting ~8-12 hours. Nothing out of the ordinary app or utilization wise.
2) Even though I turn Location settings to battery saving (network only), every now and then it reverts back to high accuracy (gps and network). Assume some stupid app is doing this?
3) Seems like just after a few minutes of use, I can feel the back of the phone (near the power/volume buttons) getting quite warm.
4) When haptic feedback is enabled (using the home button or just typing on the keyboard), the vibrate feels/sounds ... off. Coming from a Note 3 anyway, this reminds me of a dying motor. Just has a buzzy noise to it.
5) I have a 2.1a 5.2v charger (that I got from my nVidia shield tablet) that I commonly use. When I use this charger on the v10, it makes my phone go berserk. In that, any typing or touch I do, the phone becomes ultra sensitive and double/triple clicks a key and just other random oddities occur. I use this charger on all other phones/tablets without issue.
6) Picasa album sync - Why isn't this working anymore (to see albums in gallery)? I don't even see it as an option under Google account settings.
Any feedback would be most appreciated. only have a few days left to return under the 14 day VZW policy. Thinking at the least to swap for a new V10, but if these are known/common issues. I love this phone, but getting really nervous that there are some QC issues here.
Thanks
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Hey all,
Have had my v10 for a bit over a week now. Concerned that I'm having a few too many problems.
1) The battery appears to be draining at a very fast rate. Relatively light to moderate use is lasting ~8-12 hours. Nothing out of the ordinary app or utilization wise.
2) Even though I turn Location settings to battery saving (network only), every now and then it reverts back to high accuracy (gps and network). Assume some stupid app is doing this?
3) Seems like just after a few minutes of use, I can feel the back of the phone (near the power/volume buttons) getting quite warm.
4) When haptic feedback is enabled (using the home button or just typing on the keyboard), the vibrate feels/sounds ... off. Coming from a Note 3 anyway, this reminds me of a dying motor. Just has a buzzy noise to it.
5) I have a 2.1a 5.2v charger (that I got from my nVidia shield tablet) that I commonly use. When I use this charger on the v10, it makes my phone go berserk. In that, any typing or touch I do, the phone becomes ultra sensitive and double/triple clicks a key and just other random oddities occur. I use this charger on all other phones/tablets without issue.
6) Picasa album sync - Why isn't this working anymore (to see albums in gallery)? I don't even see it as an option under Google account settings.
Any feedback would be most appreciated. only have a few days left to return under the 14 day VZW policy. Thinking at the least to swap for a new V10, but if these are known/common issues. I love this phone, but getting really nervous that there are some QC issues here.
Thanks
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i experience the same thing when playing games. about 5 mins into the game, i start to feel the back buttons and camera part start to get really really warm. im really bothered by it.
Its all common in android devices but i believe Sony android is very fast draining battery!!!
adambean said:
Hey all,
Have had my v10 for a bit over a week now. Concerned that I'm having a few too many problems.
1) The battery appears to be draining at a very fast rate. Relatively light to moderate use is lasting ~8-12 hours. Nothing out of the ordinary app or utilization wise.
2) Even though I turn Location settings to battery saving (network only), every now and then it reverts back to high accuracy (gps and network). Assume some stupid app is doing this?
3) Seems like just after a few minutes of use, I can feel the back of the phone (near the power/volume buttons) getting quite warm.
4) When haptic feedback is enabled (using the home button or just typing on the keyboard), the vibrate feels/sounds ... off. Coming from a Note 3 anyway, this reminds me of a dying motor. Just has a buzzy noise to it.
5) I have a 2.1a 5.2v charger (that I got from my nVidia shield tablet) that I commonly use. When I use this charger on the v10, it makes my phone go berserk. In that, any typing or touch I do, the phone becomes ultra sensitive and double/triple clicks a key and just other random oddities occur. I use this charger on all other phones/tablets without issue.
6) Picasa album sync - Why isn't this working anymore (to see albums in gallery)? I don't even see it as an option under Google account settings.
Any feedback would be most appreciated. only have a few days left to return under the 14 day VZW policy. Thinking at the least to swap for a new V10, but if these are known/common issues. I love this phone, but getting really nervous that there are some QC issues here.
Thanks
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1, 2 and 6 I can believe and can be caused by a variety of reasons. 3,4 and 5 point to a defective phone. I am assuming you are using the charger that came with the phone.
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I've replaced the phone and everything but #6 has been resolved. Would love to figure out how to get Picasa sync working again.
A full factory reset fixed my heating problems.
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I've replaced the phone and everything but #6 has been resolved. Would love to figure out how to get Picasa sync working again.
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Is picasa sync even a thing anymore? I thought it was all replaced with Google Photos.
Coming off my note 3,i used it all he time for desktop sync and then Mobile access.
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Coming off my note 3,i used it all he time for desktop sync and then Mobile access.
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I actually talked to a phone tester that works for LG here in San Diego. She's from South Korea, she deals directly with corporate in Seoul and translates for them. She said they know that a certain percentage of the phones are defective with overheating and GPS issues.
My V10 got so hot I thought it was going to catch fire. On night it was plugged into my powerpack charging, I woke up and the phone had shut off and it was hotter than I've ever seen a phone get. Like it shut off and just removed all restriction to the power just dumping into it. Kinda scary.
I did end up sending my V10 back under my 14 day return period. I've got another one coming tomorrow. Hopefully it will have no issues