Has anyone managed to get a working dual sim adapter for the HD? I've tried MagicSim 20th edition from ebay which works but causes the HD to go into bootloader mode after a reset.
Thanks
http://www.simore.ch/en/mobile_phone_accessory/HTC/Touch-HD.html
Tried BRANDO: Powerful Dual Card (10th era)
Tried this one...
http://mobile.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=02761&dept_id=100&cat_id=0937
No cutting of card required...
bouled1 said:
Tried this one...
http://mobile.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=02761&dept_id=100&cat_id=0937
No cutting of card required...
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How do you set this up?
how do these things work? Can i choose the line to make an outgoing call? can i recieve on either line at the same time?
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How do you set this up?
how do these things work? Can i choose the line to make an outgoing call? can i recieve on either line at the same time?
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From what I have seen, once you install the adapter, the phone adds a menu item in the programs section of the HD. From there you can select what card to turn on. You give it a couple of seconds to find reception and then you're good to go.
As far as I know (and I'm just a newbie at it)......
No, you cannot use both cards simultaneously. So, if card 1 is selected to be in use, then the phone will act as if card 2 did not exist. That means you cannot receive calls made to that number or text messages etc. If you then want to call using card 2, you have to switch to it, which then means that card 1 would be totally turned off.
bouled1 said:
Tried this one...
http://mobile.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=02761&dept_id=100&cat_id=0937
No cutting of card required...
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So you actually tried this one and it worked?
How do you fit the extra card under the back cover of the phone?
I am debating on which adapter to get. I'm scared to mess up my sim card by cutting it. Maybe I'll order the special pliers to cut it - rather than using scissors. No cutting card would be better, but I thought the non cutted adapters would not fit or work with the HD.
I see that MobileBrando has a dual sim card that has AutoSwitch.
http://mobile.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=03307&cat_id=0937&dept_id=100
Do you think it really true? "both sims online at the same time"... is it possible?
is any one tried it with the HD?
kubeb said:
I see that MobileBrando has a dual sim card that has AutoSwitch.
http://mobile.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=03307&cat_id=0937&dept_id=100
Do you think it really true? "both sims online at the same time"... is it possible?
is any one tried it with the HD?
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As I understand it, you cannot have both sims online at the same time with the HD, because your phone would need two receivers/transmitters for that.
So I seriously doubt that the above claim is true.
There are phones though, like the Samsung D880, that can use two sim cards simultaneously.
I don't see where that link says that both sim cards would be active simultaneously. I believe the auto-switch function just means that you can set a time when the phone should switch to another card. For example if you get off work at 5 pm, it can automatically switch to your personal sim at that time (and switch off your business sim). In the link it even says that the display shows you which number is online. I assume that means both are not online at the same time.
And as K_Hismoom said, you would still need a phone with the capability of having two numbers active simultaneoulsy. Most phones do not have that ability.
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I don't see where that link says that both sim cards would be active simultaneously. I believe the auto-switch function just means that you can set a time when the phone should switch to another card. For example if you get off work at 5 pm, it can automatically switch to your personal sim at that time (and switch off your business sim). In the link it even says that the display shows you which number is online. I assume that means both are not online at the same time.
And as K_Hismoom said, you would still need a phone with the capability of having two numbers active simultaneoulsy. Most phones do not have that ability.
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I am not going to search for new phone now...LOL
However can bouled1 sim card make autoswitch every minute? and select which number to use on outgoing calls manually?
this is the only way I can see that it will work effectively for me:
1. You are offline with each phone no more than 1 minute.
2. I can use my work number to make outgoing calls when I want (thus saving money)
does this make sense?
bouled1 - can you upload pictures of the dual sim card inserted and the interface of the number selection? thanks in advance
I've tried this one :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=330289858155
It does not work on the HD and even tried it on my KJAM and still no luck.
Worked perfectly on my ols nokia (3G USim)
Does anybody tried and succeed a Non-Cut dual sim adaptor that works with the HD and USIM?
I'm desperate....
guys guys, these won't work with touch HD, or any of the windows mobile phones, I believe. if i'm wrong, please correct me, i'd like to learn something new. the reason being, is that in order for these cards to "automatically insert a new menu item" into the menu, the card needs access to the windows API. i doubt these little cards have that much memory on board (or left) to hold these codes for API calls.
they were designed to insert menus into dumbphones, regular phones, because those phones uses java as their "operating system", much simpler and leaner/smaller code.
buggybug0 said:
guys guys, these won't work with touch HD, or any of the windows mobile phones, I believe. if i'm wrong, please correct me, i'd like to learn something new. the reason being, is that in order for these cards to "automatically insert a new menu item" into the menu, the card needs access to the windows API. i doubt these little cards have that much memory on board (or left) to hold these codes for API calls.
they were designed to insert menus into dumbphones, regular phones, because those phones uses java as their "operating system", much simpler and leaner/smaller code.
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I think you're wrong, but I am only basing it on the following:
This website a couple of weeks ago said their card worked on the touch hd, but I just checked and they changed it to "still testing it". See here.
This is their list to check compatibility of their various dual-card adapters with your phone. And on this page they say their adapters are indeed compatible with the touch diamond. They even have video showing how it works on the touch diamond. See video here. Tutorial videos of them using their dual sim card adapter on other phones here.
So, it seems that it can indeed be done on these phones.
Chris Cross said:
I think you're wrong, but I am only basing it on the following:
This website a couple of weeks ago said their card worked on the touch hd, but I just checked and they changed it to "still testing it". See here.
This is their list to check compatibility of their various dual-card adapters with your phone. And on this page they say their adapters are indeed compatible with the touch diamond. They even have video showing how it works on the touch diamond. See video here. Tutorial videos of them using their dual sim card adapter on other phones here.
So, it seems that it can indeed be done on these phones.
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ahh i see. technology sure advances in a short period of time. i would be interested in seeing how it works. thanks!
Is there any news regarding this subject?
I need an adapter like this to allow me to put 1 data sim and 1 normal sim into my HD.... St*pid Italian mobile carriers do not offer any good contract with decent 3G Web flat and Voice on the same number.
Incer said:
Is there any news regarding this subject?
I need an adapter like this to allow me to put 1 data sim and 1 normal sim into my HD.... St*pid Italian mobile carriers do not offer any good contract with decent 3G Web flat and Voice on the same number.
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I just checked the links above in my post. It looks like the Company is now done testing their adapter on the Touch HD and they say it is compatible. A few weeks ago, the page just said "testing in progress".
See this link. Their prices start at 40 Euros and shipping is free to all destinations. They are the only ones that I have seen make a video of their product working on the touch diamond. So, I feel pretty confident, that it will work on the HD. Of course you can buy those adapters as cheap as 6 Euros, but I wouldn't count on those working.
Only can works on 2G platform not on 3G platform and not data support. The video on youtube for htc diamond show that.
Check out this one:
http://www.2-phones-in-1.com/en
This was tested by a user of a German forum and worked on the Touch HD even with 3G UMTS...
If you can speak a little German, you can read it here, otherwise, Google Translator is your friend
http://www.pocketpc.ch/256948-post16.html
I've contacted them, to see if they know if it's compatible or not, and also if it works on 3G/H
Hi,
I tried the card you pointing at but it ended up for me with two smaller simcards because you need to cut them.
No joy, when inserted in the device it doesn't recognize.
It was worth a try, pitty it doesn't work.
Chris Cross said:
I think you're wrong, but I am only basing it on the following:
This website a couple of weeks ago said their card worked on the touch hd, but I just checked and they changed it to "still testing it". See here.
This is their list to check compatibility of their various dual-card adapters with your phone. And on this page they say their adapters are indeed compatible with the touch diamond. They even have video showing how it works on the touch diamond. See video here. Tutorial videos of them using their dual sim card adapter on other phones here.
So, it seems that it can indeed be done on these phones.
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I'm looking for a dual sim adapter suitable for my touch cruise.
Any ideas?.
I saw this on the net, but it looks very expensive.
http://www.simore.ch/en/mobile_phone_accessory/HTC/Touch-cruise.html
Simore seems the only one working, my old adapater good for qtek 9090 worked only the first day, after it stop working (I try also a hard reset but no luck). I can switch only after a soft reset. But Simore seems to drain a bit the battery (watch here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364884). Ciao.
jayz2005 said:
I'm looking for a dual sim adapter suitable for my touch cruise.
Any ideas?.
I saw this on the net, but it looks very expensive.
http://www.simore.ch/en/mobile_phone_accessory/HTC/Touch-cruise.html
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Try this one
http://ww8.aitsafe.com/cf/add.cfm?u...IM+For+&product[]=Htc+Touch+Cruise&submit=Buy
kutonglupa, the initial site? The link is only to buy, more information? Thanks in advance.
yes i am looking for recommended dual sim adapters for the touch cruise too
Oh this would be good as I am in the US every week switching sims. I don't suppose it would let me access DATA off one sim and Phone services off the other eh?
kutonglupa said:
Try this one
http://ww8.aitsafe.com/cf/add.cfm?u...IM+For+&product[]=Htc+Touch+Cruise&submit=Buy
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I think the site is http://www.m-99.co.uk/
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I think the site is http://www.m-99.co.uk/
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Yeah! You nail it, but, something does'nt feel right on this site or am getting paranoid?
like i asked before, will any of the sim adapters, actually keep both sims active at all times or this isnt possible ?
If not, which one of that m99 site will work for polaris?
This isn't possible. Only dual-sim phones can do that because they have two receivers integrated.
I don't know which one will work. I can only say that if you want to use UMTS you have to buy an analogue adapter. Afaik digital adapters can work with an UMTS-Sim but they can't use the UMTS features like HSDPA. So you can use the UMTS-Sim in GSM-Mode only.
Hello,
I have a Black 1 SIMORE v6.0 on my HTC cruise. It's works perfectly in edge and 3G mode.
With Radio ROM original, i have problem with 3G network, the network disconnect after 5 seconds, but after upgrade to the last ROM radio, it's OK.
There is an automatic permute function, like 10 minutes on my edge network, and 5 minutes on 3G network. Work good, it take less than 15 seconds to change , but if you are on call , it's disconnect you and change the network if the 10 or 5 minutes expires.....
But It's OK for me , i swap only to check my voicemail or sms and permute directly to my principal network.
I don't know about battery life but i have only one phone in my pocket and it's the only one solution i found for that
To Greg_o: can you please confirm if you can use HSDPA with the simore adapter? I am thinking to get one as well. Thanks.
HSDPA is activate in my options... I can tell you more in 4 days, my new 3G options ( TV ,visio , internet etc..) will be activate ... but, how i can see that HSDPA is working ? i already have the 3G on the bar level reception.
The easiest way would be to do a speedtest. I would suggest to use the test used in this topic so we can easily compare.
If your speed is high enough -> it could be only HSDPA.
my results without SIMORE :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2082686&postcount=67
I cut my SIM this week and post my result with SIMORE after
I now use a Datopal 6th Generation Dualsim Cut Adapter. It's an analogue one. Things seem to work fine so far. Tried with T-Mobile and HSDPA works (speed was only 440kbit/s, but that's what I got before I used Dualsim also). To be sure I only activated the UMTS frequencies in the settings, so it should really work.
There are only some problems when it comes to show the right distributor of my simcard. I don't have problems, when I use different networks. Only when I use the same network (one sim is directly from the network distributor and one is from a reseller who uses the same network) the display didn't change the provider name. So without a third party tool I'm unable to say which card is active. I used SimDisplay to get rid of this problem, but I'm sure that there are enough alternatives.
Main positive aspect of the dual sim is the low cost of 6$ per unit (including shipping). The card was directly imported from Hongkong, so delivery time was about a week (I paid with credit card).
It really depends on the network and SIM card type.
Here (france) I have an Orange and one SFR USIM cards, I can't do any 3G on it.
In fact, I can log on to the 3G network but when I try to make a call, network is downgraded to GSM.
Video-call don't work (that's the real test for 3G connectivity, calling your video answering machine).
I'm now thinking into buying an analogue dual sim adapter, to prevent any more meddling than a mere switch between the SIM card and the phone.
Anyone know of any dual sim card adapter that works in UK - 3 network?
kutonglupa said:
Yeah! You nail it, but, something does'nt feel right on this site or am getting paranoid?
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well i ordered those dual sim adapters there - and guess what - i got the wrong ones. so its not the best idea to get those things there.
i tried to call them but the number is not working ...
Anyone tried this one? Selles says it will work for cruise: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=160263857295
Same guy is selling another version, with a picture of a diamond using this dual sim adapter. (photoshop or real? don't know yet)
I've ordered one, will post my result when I recieve it. May take a week or so.
I have tried this one, which is for "all phones": http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=250267107670
didn't work good. The STK menu came up, but the phone freezes everytime I try to change number. It ask for pin, then hangs. (and my dads sony ericsson slows down when this is inserted.. is this normal?)
I have been trying to use a dual sim adaptor with Athena but would not boot with it on. Anybody had any success? It will be great for me to be able to use both 3 and standard without removing the sim. it is a pain to remove it on Athena as this is under battery and sometimes needs a flat screwdriver to remove it...
vicinc said:
I have been trying to use a dual sim adaptor with Athena but would not boot with it on. Anybody had any success? It will be great for me to be able to use both 3 and standard without removing the sim. it is a pain to remove it on Athena as this is under battery and sometimes needs a flat screwdriver to remove it...
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Do you mean dual SIM or dual SD?
Dual sim of course not dual SD
Well, i've got an old DualSIM adaptor (anlog) which worked fine on my Himalaya.
My Athena boots without problems when i use this adaptor, but it takes me 3 or 4 restarts of the phone to get the DualSIM adaptor changin the SIM.
But i guess i have some issues with my SIMCards, they really look screwed up, makes me wonder why they work anyway
Maybe a newer Radio could have an impact on this Issue too.
Right now i use Radio 1.50 and AP Dual PK3.
If your SIMCards are screwed up the Athena won't boot, also my SIMAdaptor needs both SIMCards entered. With only one SIMCard in it, the Athena won't boot.
BTW: SIMDisplay (can be found on sourceforge.net) is the perfect Todayscreen Plugin for Displaying the active SIM.
I have one running but ...
finally I obtained a Simore dual sim working. But my problem is due I have one line for voice and other one for data, if should be possible to have some mechanism that in base to which sim is activated obtaining working the data connection or not. Do you know if it is possible?
Hi Beginner. Could you please post the model info of the Simore dual SIM you found worked with Athena? I'm currently looking for one. Thanks.
beginner said:
finally I obtained a Simore dual sim working. But my problem is due I have one line for voice and other one for data, if should be possible to have some mechanism that in base to which sim is activated obtaining working the data connection or not. Do you know if it is possible?
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The Connection Setup Wizard will detect the network that you've just switched to and offer to set your data connection to match it. It'll do that every time the network changes.
If you're looking to buy a SIMore dual SIM adapter for the Athena, DON'T. The SIMore dual SIM won't let you connect to WCDMA network so you won't be able to use HSDPA or 3G!!!! I bought one from them and in the process of getting an RMA to return this piece of junk back to them now. Their online ad is fraudulent when they say it's 3G compatible. It is not. It only let you connect to GSM which only offers up to EDGE.
Is there any dual SIM adapter that will let you connect at 3G speeds out there?
PS: If you're only using EDGE at the moment and don't think you will ever never for the rest of your life upgrading to HSDPA, then by all means, flush your money down the toilet and buy this expensive piece of junk.
Thanks for the warning. Thought it was useful to have.
no dual sim
shame there is none yet. it will be great to have a truely dual phone. Networks will hate it
I think it could be posible but not easy to create a soft sim somehow. instead of having to change my three.co.uk hdspa compat sim between Athena (why the hack they do not do the sim reader as a slot accessible without removing battery) and my mac laptop is a nightmare. I tried to use Wifirouter, but it crashes athena quite often.
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I tried to use Wifirouter, but it crashes athena quite often.
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Under the factory ROM I never had it crash, even with hours of use at one time. I haven't used it under AP4 yet. Maybe you have a conflict with another program?
not installed anything apart tomtom 6 legal
vicinc said:
I think it could be posible but not easy to create a soft sim somehow. instead of having to change my three.co.uk hdspa compat sim between Athena (why the hack they do not do the sim reader as a slot accessible without removing battery) and my mac laptop is a nightmare. I tried to use Wifirouter, but it crashes athena quite often.
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Iam not sure what are you explaining.
are you using a dual sim system?
does it works? which is it?
thanks.
i tried using few none worked. I find very difficult in swaping sims without the add o a flat screwdriver, also removing battery is not fun.
I am wondering if it will be possible in developing a virtual sim card that will copy the info from our sim card allowing the phone to work with it?
I am tired of having two mobile phones in my pocket: my brand new TD2 (private use) and my Nokia 6020 (business use).
So I would like to use my TD2 for private and work.
Does anybody know if there is a working Dual Sim Adapter for the TD2?
I tried one (no clue which brand or version, its marked with YANG - 16 - A) but it doesn't work:
First of all it does not realy fit under the back cover, it's a non-cut version.
It adds a STK menu to the TD2 but I have no clue how to use it.
The first sim works fine, but the second sim is not recognized, and does not work.
A little bump up
Maybe this one fits... I don't know (I need to wait a few more days before I get the diamond ).
http://www.yagoda.nl/magicsim-dualsim-adapter-p-2619.html?&gclid=CMHsmOGlqJoCFYR_3goduGSx1g
EDIT:
I guess that this one will fit:
http://www.dual-sim.nl/nieuw-magicsim-23rd-p-161.html
mayen said:
I am tired of having two mobile phones in my pocket: my brand new TD2 (private use) and my Nokia 6020 (business use).
So I would like to use my TD2 for private and work.
Does anybody know if there is a working Dual Sim Adapter for the TD2?
I tried one (no clue which brand or version, its marked with YANG - 16 - A) but it doesn't work:
First of all it does not realy fit under the back cover, it's a non-cut version.
It adds a STK menu to the TD2 but I have no clue how to use it.
The first sim works fine, but the second sim is not recognized, and does not work.
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just see that http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GHOST-DUAL-SI...3|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50
I was just thinking the same thing. This is my first WM device but I have carried two phone for years now.
I have started another thread in the General section going into more detail, although I think none of it is possible.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514973
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I was just thinking the same thing. This is my first WM device but I have carried two phone for years now.
I have started another thread in the General section going into more detail, although I think none of it is possible.
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Can't find the thread...
Link please???
Sorry, was in the process of writing is I posted here - took me a while to finish, and you beat me to the punch - anyhow link above
something new in dualsim theme?
Kick - Anyone?
Still no suitable solution found.
I tried a non-cut dual sim version, but it did not fit and it did not function and in the end, i accidentally tore it apart....
So, anybody experience with a cut version?
Especially whit being online with both numbers at the same time
Your "2 cents" please!
I am after the same, but the only one clearly advertised as tested and working with TD2 is Simore Platinum.
not allowed to provide link to simore.eu
At 70 euros it's far too expensive to justify at the moment, especially as we still only have their word for it.
Apparently as phones only have one transmitter/receiver it is not possible to receive calls from 2x active Sims. Their workaround is to have an automatic setting where the SIMS auto-switch, so you can get notified of any missed calls, or SMSes. In reality the workaround for dual lines is to auto-divert the calls for the unused sim to the active one, leaving the auto-switch to pick up SMS from the other SIM to a schedule.
OK, I thought I'd give some cheaper versions a go from freeyourmobile.biz
Magicsim Ghost Dual SIM Card (Non-Cut)
Magicsim DIGITAL Dual SIM (Cut)
I've only tried the Ghost and it works fine on O2 Sims, but with some caveats:-
1. The Sim holder folds around the battery, and I can just about get the case to clip on with a bit of a band/gap on one side/edge. For me this is OK because the TD2 slides into my Proporta Aluminium flip-case, so you don't notice.
2. It doesn't seem to support 3G/HSPDA data, I can only get Edge, but this isn't too much of a problem for me, as I only use data to periodically check email.
3. Everytime you switch SIMS it takes around 30 seconds to re-register, and this includes a pop-up that asks me to select a Network Carrier, and wait for a configuration process to complete. This happens every time you switch SIMS, no matter how many times.
4. No instructions for auto-switching, but a google should sort that.
As I'm happy for now, and don't want to start cutting up SIM-cards, I haven't tested the DIGITAL, but I suspect it wil be the same as it's the same manufacturer.
UPDATE 1: I had a replacement/spare battery from ebay, which was slightly thicker, the original HTC stock battery allows the case to clip on with only a very slight gap
UPDATE 2: Definitely works fine 'with' 3G Sims, but no support for 3G/HSPDA Data transfer. As I said, not a big deal for me personally.
UPDATE 3: There is a setting in Connections Setup to disable Auto-Configuration, which removes this annoyance as both my SIMS are O2. Not sure if you'd get away with this from 2x SIMS from different networks
UPDATE 4: Auto-Switching is only 0-9 minutes global switch. The info on the web suggests there is supposed to be an advanced mode that allows more functionality, but might be issue with this phone or OS, as to why this isn't available. STK mode only appears in menu. Still, what I've done is associate this STK program with holding down the 'call' button, so easy to switch SIMS quickly and easily now.
kougei said:
OK, I thought I'd give some cheaper versions a go from freeyourmobile.biz
Magicsim Ghost Dual SIM Card (Non-Cut)
Magicsim DIGITAL Dual SIM (Cut)
I've only tried the Ghost and it works fine on O2 Sims, but with some caveats:-
1. The Sim holder folds around the battery, and I can just about get the case to clip on with a bit of a band/gap on one side/edge. For me this is OK because the TD2 slides into my Proporta Aluminium flip-case, so you don't notice.
2. It doesn't seem to support 3G/HSPDA data, I can only get Edge, but this isn't too much of a problem for me, as I only use data to periodically check email.
3. Everytime you switch SIMS it takes around 30 seconds to re-register, and this includes a pop-up that asks me to select a Network Carrier, and wait for a configuration process to complete. This happens every time you switch SIMS, no matter how many times.
4. No instructions for auto-switching, but a google should sort that.
As I'm happy for now, and don't want to start cutting up SIM-cards, I haven't tested the DIGITAL, but I suspect it wil be the same as it's the same manufacturer.
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mayen said:
Still no suitable solution found.
I tried a non-cut dual sim version, but it did not fit and it did not function and in the end, i accidentally tore it apart....
So, anybody experience with a cut version?
Especially whit being online with both numbers at the same time
Your "2 cents" please!
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IMHO -
1. Only cut version adaptor will work, as thr s no space fr 2 non cut SIMS
2. No one can gaurantee 100% working adaptor, as it is dependent on how well SIMS r cut n thn avoiding loose connections
3. Circuit of SIMS - Different operators (countries) use diff config fr SIMS n hence difficult to say which SIMS will work n whthr 3g/HSDPA will work fr every SIM
4. Both SIMS numbers cannot be online together, since Radio s designed to receive only signal thru 1 SIM - workarnd can be frwrdng calls frm SIM 2 to SIM 1, while SIM 1 s online and vice versa
5. Concept is 100% workable - i m using Dual SIM Adaptor (costing arnd $3) fr last 1 month n its works like a charm with GPRS, Edge, 3G as well as HSDPA connections
For more details, chk out my post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449219 post 57.....
dnt knw how to put link to a single post
Does anybody has tried This:
http://www.simore.eu/en/index.php
I noticed that the SIM cards keep changing every so often.
The new SIM cards have a smaller gold-metal surface area, whereas the older ones have a bigger gold-metal surface area.
Any ideas why?
Is there any benefit to swap out your SIM card to the newest? The SIM that comes in the box has a smaller gold-surface area.
(When was using previously using the iphone, my SIM was pretty beat up from switching phones all the time and the gold-metal part practically had indentations, which did give me reception problems. When I swapped it out with a new one at the store it did fix the problem. Obviously a surface contact problem.)
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iunlock said:
I noticed that the SIM cards keep changing every so often.
The new SIM cards have a smaller gold-metal surface area, whereas the older ones have a bigger gold-metal surface area.
Any ideas why?
Is there any benefit to swap out your SIM card to the newest? The SIM that comes in the box has a smaller gold-surface area.
(When was using previously using the iphone, my SIM was pretty beat up from switching phones all the time and the gold-metal part practically had indentations, which did give me reception problems. When I swapped it out with a new one at the store it did fix the problem. Obviously a surface contact problem.)
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Here's the pic.
I did have a weird situation where replacing the sim actually somehow increased my data speeds...the old sim was only a year old ...but i ain't complaining
didn't really notice any less surface area tho
newspeak said:
I did have a weird situation where replacing the sim actually somehow increased my data speeds...the old sim was only a year old ...but i ain't complaining
didn't really notice any less surface area tho
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That's interesting....hmmm....now I'm really curious haha...
I swapped out my 1 year old SIM as well and now im getting 3G signals in my house whereas my old sim would drop 3G service more often.
Idk I change sim cards for all my phones since g1 since there's nothing on it ever since using google contacts
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There is typically no need to replace your sim card unless you are having problems with it (ie not registering on the network.)
However older sim cards have a restriction on how many times they can register on the network, and after they hit the limit the phone will stop connecting, so if you want to prevent this issue (usually takes a couple years, and is a lot more likely in areas where your signal drops, for people who travel a lot, and in 3G coverages areas where you swap back and forth between 3G and 2G) you can use one of the newer sim cards. To Identify whether your sim is the newer variant with no registration restriction look at the back where the gold contacts are, if its a newer sim it will say in small lettering "TMXXXX" (where X is a number, ie TM4322) and it will also have an expiration date printed (it must be activated by this date or it becomes unusable.)
In terms of 2G/3G the sim card itself and its age should not make a difference as the capability to connect to those networks is dependent on the phone, not the sim. You can think of a sim card as a gateway that connects your phone to the billing system and authenticates it.
Having had said that, if you are having connection issues it could just be a defective sim card, to check, just place the sim in a phone that isn't having any connectivity problems, if it starts having problems, replace your sim.
In terms of the digit you highlighted in that picture, I believe it has to do with the manufacture year, although if I remember correctly its digits 4 and 5 that make up that information, but otherwise isn't anything important to a consumer.
well i got curious and checked ....i have the bigger sim ...i don't think the numbers matter much
Aphotix said:
There is typically no need to replace your sim card unless you are having problems with it (ie not registering on the network.)
However older sim cards have a restriction on how many times they can register on the network, and after they hit the limit the phone will stop connecting, so if you want to prevent this issue (usually takes a couple years, and is a lot more likely in areas where your signal drops, for people who travel a lot, and in 3G coverages areas where you swap back and forth between 3G and 2G) you can use one of the newer sim cards. To Identify whether your sim is the newer variant with no registration restriction look at the back where the gold contacts are, if its a newer sim it will say in small lettering "TMXXXX" (where X is a number, ie TM4322) and it will also have an expiration date printed (it must be activated by this date or it becomes unusable.)
In terms of 2G/3G the sim card itself and its age should not make a difference as the capability to connect to those networks is dependent on the phone, not the sim. You can think of a sim card as a gateway that connects your phone to the billing system and authenticates it.
Having had said that, if you are having connection issues it could just be a defective sim card, to check, just place the sim in a phone that isn't having any connectivity problems, if it starts having problems, replace your sim.
In terms of the digit you highlighted in that picture, I believe it has to do with the manufacture year, although if I remember correctly its digits 4 and 5 that make up that information, but otherwise isn't anything important to a consumer.
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Thanks for your input.
As for the exp. date, where is that located. I don't see it.
Aphotix said:
In terms of 2G/3G the sim card itself and its age should not make a difference as the capability to connect to those networks is dependent on the phone, not the sim. You can think of a sim card as a gateway that connects your phone to the billing system and authenticates it.
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That's what I thought...until a lot of people started noticing better 3g connection/speeds with the new sim cards. Just a placebo effect perhaps?
The size difference could also be for users who want to make it a micro sim so they can put it in their unlocked iPhones. I don't have either of these sim cards to compare, so I'm not sure.
hmm.. the sim im using is almost 8 years old. its been moved from phone to phone so many times there are wear marks on the contacts. still works fine though.
When I first got my g1 a few years ago I had issues with the market. There were apps that I knew were available (private apps) but I could not download them. I went to a T-Mobile store and looked at the display phones. One of them was able to see private apps, the other like mine, could not. I talked it over with the rep and we decided to replace the sim card. It was a random, no other ideas, decision. Started the G1 back up and Market was now working as expected. There were no other benefits noticed. Since then, I tend to replace the sim anytime a new phone is purchased.
Your milage may vary.
-Ryan
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When I got my Vibrant, coming from the g1, tmo wanted to just pop it in the Vibrant. I made them put in the new sim card just to be safe, figured the one that came in the box brand new SHOULD be better.
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Thanks for your input.
As for the exp. date, where is that located. I don't see it.
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Its only on the newer ones, the old ones don't expire, they just stop working after a set number of registrations on the network.
In regards to sim issues, they really shouldn't have any impact at all. Changing a sim card refreshes the billing information in the system (like what kind of services your phone is supposed to have and what not) customer care can do this without the need for a new sim.
Hoenstly though, sometimes a sim replacement is needed, I've seen stranger things.
s15274n said:
When I got my Vibrant, coming from the g1, tmo wanted to just pop it in the Vibrant. I made them put in the new sim card just to be safe, figured the one that came in the box brand new SHOULD be better.
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When I bought my phone out right, the rep opened the box and took out the SIM then sold me the phone.
I guess it doesn't matter since swapping out your SIM at the T-Mobile corporate stores is free.
I just tried this since there is a tmobile store across from where I work. I used SpeedTest app and ran it 3 times before the swap. Average was about 2500 kbps download and 300 up. I swapped the sim out, went back to the spot where I originally tested and ran three more times and got about the same rate with the new sim. My old one was about 3 yo from when I had my Dash.
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I just tried this since there is a tmobile store across from where I work. I used SpeedTest app and ran it 3 times before the swap. Average was about 2500 kbps download and 300 up. I swapped the sim out, went back to the spot where I originally tested and ran three more times and got about the same rate with the new sim. My old one was about 3 yo from when I had my Dash.
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I'm thinking the only time one would see a difference is if they are having poor contact surface from the SIM wearing out. I've seen ooolld SIM's where the metal had indentations like no other.
Just read the thread and said why not had the same sim card since I first signed up with tmobile 5 years ago.
When I talked with the rep on the phone and explained this to him and asked could this help he stated that the official tmobile policy is if the old sim card works no need to switch. However, because of the technical specs on the card could cause better reception, they just can't guarantee it, they only guarantee it will not get worse. He asked if I was having issues and I said no i'm just a nerd and wanted to know if it would help. Just swapped it out going to give it a test around the house and will report back.
Back Story:
Upgraded from G1, perfect 3G everywhere in chicago, couldn't even get it to drop from 3G no matter where I went. With the Vibrant and and old sim card, constantly dropped to 2G no big deal still was speedy
New Sim Card:
will report after testing
Old Sim Card
My connection constantly jumped from 2G to 3G all over my house constantly
New Sim Card
Solid 3G all through the house, will report back after tomorrow when I travel all over chicago
I have seen a few dual sim card adaptors that sellers are claiming work with the Mini Pro. Has anybody tried them or have any thoughts/advice regarding them?
I don't expect they will be dual standby (both working simultaneously) but I am still interested to do this rather than carrying 2 phones around.
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If it worked it would be great. Does anyone know if it works? Maybe booth could work together with some app... I don't know, when it comes to Cellphones I'm a total Noob..
Waiting answers..
I have a double sim (one sim with 2 number) from vodafone, wich is basicaly the same as a dual sim adapter.
It works as it should.. the only bugger is that every time you change the active sim, it forces you to re.login to your google account.
mariorenato said:
I have a double sim (one sim with 2 number) from vodafone, wich is basicaly the same as a dual sim adapter.
It works as it should.. the only bugger is that every time you change the active sim, it forces you to re.login to your google account.
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How do you change between the two numbers? Did it cost you extra to get this from Vodafone?
The double sim is a product from vodafone.. About 15euro once for it. You give them your numbers and in 1- 2 days you get the new card.
To change betwen numbers you have several options. Either the sim menu and select the numer you want.. Boot the phone and and use he pin you want.(each number has a pin) or dial 0 or 00 to reboot the sim. The phone asks for the pin
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Anyone using these adaptors? I need to order one for my phone.
I have a Vodafone and an O2 sim using an Xperia Mini Pro and want to have both in it at the same time.
Just want to know if it will work on an Xperia Mini Pro which might not be the same as the X10 Mini Pro for compatibility or whatever. Never done this before.
Check out www.magic-sim.com I got one for my Samsung galaxy s2 from them and it's a great little device. There's a compatibility checking function on the website so you could check the mini pro there.
I used it, 3 years ago... You only require a phone with a "sim menu", (the one with your carrier options... And a case big enough to be able to close it with this sim that is a little bit thicker.
The one I tested made disappear your carrier "sim menu", and replaced it with a custom menu that allowed to change the sim... Even allowed to schedule the changes...
The bad thing is the time it takes to obtain signal after making the change ( the same time it takes when you turn on the phone), and that you have to cut your SIMs to be able to insert them...
Now I sow one that did'n require to cut the Sim, but I think that's too big for lots of phones.
The one I have from magic-sim fits really well. Sim switching takes about 4 seconds. It sounds like the technology has improved a lot since you used it.
how it connects, in layers?
so, this adaptor don't make the phone work with the two sim at the same time?
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how it connects, in layers?
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I've seen 3 presentations...
One next to the other, In layers, And in standard sim size, (croping your two sim cards and inserting them inside the other)...
Depending on your device It can or not fit the phone case.
Slash90[ITA] said:
so, this adaptor don't make the phone work with the two sim at the same time?
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No. For that purchase a chinese or a black berry with 2 3 or 4 sims.
Is there any android with such a feature? It would make grate "spy phones"