Battery/charge/boot problem - Touch Dual, MDA Touch Plus ROM Development

I have flashed the latest HTC update with Windows mobile 6.1 onto my T-mobile MDA touch plus. But I have a problem and I don't know if this is about the firmware, the phone or the battery.
I bought this phone recently (secondhand) and actually flashed this update directly, so I don't have experience with the phone how it came.
Right now, the battery doesn't last for a day without actually using it (even without a simcard inserted). It is clean of software, only flashed the firmware and that's all.
After a day, when battery is empty, the device won't turn on with the charger connected. Even when I keep the charger connected for a whole day. Then I try some things like unplugging the charger, remove/insert the battery, press reset button, connect/disconnect usb and it eventually turns on (I don't know what the real trick is). Battery is empty then, so it didn't charge at all...
Current firmware is Nike_HTC_NLD_2.09.404.1 with its default radio (1.65.28.25). Camera works.
Does this have to do with the software, hardware or do I have a 'almost-dead' battery?
I also like to try to flash the stock firmware, but it won't flash when I have run the sspl 1.16.jump executable on my mda. Or can I just flash the phone with the new stock 1.22 spl ?(fixed)

you need hardspl first ... try again!

I did try that preciously, but the problem was that the 1.16.jump executable booted up the bootflash menu without showing usb. But I did a second try now, and it worked
I am now running the default t-mobile firmware (but I don't get a t-mobile bootscreen.. so it's not a real shipped rom I think).
Battery is 95% now, let's see how long it takes to get empty again...

Battery is empty now, so this had nothing to do with the firmware.
I try to charge the mda with a different charger, because the one that I had was an aftermarket type.
I have another question. When I charge the phone, should the orange light in the speaker turn on? It stays off here...

When in charging mode, via charger or USB cable, the light will be orange, turning yellow once fully charged.

rling said:
When in charging mode, via charger or USB cable, the light will be orange, turning yellow once fully charged.
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That doesn't happen.. It charges, but it doesn't show any light
Is there a way to check the battery instead of buying a new one ?

I have bought a new battery, but the problem persists
The last thing I want to try is flashing another or original radio. I have read that battery drain can be the result of having the wrong radio version. I hope this is the case.
My device is a niki200 and it is currently running Nike_HTC_NLD_2.09.404.1 with its default radio (1.65.28.25).
I'm unsure if a niki200 device needs a different radio than niki100's. Therefore I like to get a original T-Mobile MDA Touch Plus rom (Dutch/NLD) or a radio that is 100% compatible with the phone. Which radio do I need? And where can I get an original T-Mobile rom, or do I have to request it?
I hope the problem is in the radio, otherwise the hardware itself is faulty

Problem is fixed. It was a hardware issue. The keyboard lights and gsm/charge status leds didn't work at all. Only when I moved the display housing a little bit, I sometimes got these lights working. I have disassembled the phone, reconnected everything.. and it all works fine again . Battery is 95% after 16 hours standby! I'm happy again!

all nike can use the same radios ... only japan nikes use different radios!

I want to say thanks to tuti fruiti, I had the same problem with my touch dual, followed instructions as give, and everything is fine now.
Cheers
Tutti-frutti said:
Problem is fixed. It was a hardware issue. The keyboard lights and gsm/charge status leds didn't work at all. Only when I moved the display housing a little bit, I sometimes got these lights working. I have disassembled the phone, reconnected everything.. and it all works fine again . Battery is 95% after 16 hours standby! I'm happy again!
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My Titan Died!! :(

Ok, so first off, I upgraded to 6.1 from 6.0 a year ago. I am using SPL 2.40 and radio 3.27
I was looking at the 6.5 roms and thought maybe it was time to upgrade again. I tried the last 2 6.5 roms and found that after flashing my camera and speaker stopped working. So then thought I may as well down grade back to 6.1
I was using dcd 1.3.0 (I think) originally but then saw that the next stable version was 2.3.2 so decided to use that.
After flash all was good with the world. Camera ok, speaker ok, all good. about 24hrs later my phone shut down (with a fully charged battery). I tried to turn it on and nothing happened. Plugged in the wall and then the PC still nothing. I also tried to boot into the boot loader (power+Camera+reset) still nothing.
Am I out of luck? Can I get a service doc to trouble shoot myself? or do I now own a PPC paperweight?
Thanks for any help (I did try searching the forums but found nothing like this for the 6800)
Big mistake. That old of a dcd rom is probably 6.0. You might have messed your phone up good. Does it light up if you plug it in? If so what color? You need something like DCD 3.3.4.
Can you put your phone into bootloader?
No it literally will not power on at all. Boot loader or otherwise. Also no led when plugged in the wall or in the PC. I think it fried a chip or something. But it did work fine for about a day or a day and a half. As well when it shut down I wasn't even using it. It was in stand-by mode. If I could track down a service manual I may be able to trouble shoot the chip, but have already paid for one site with no luck and don't want to repeat that (could add up )
Pull the battery, make sure it's unplugged. Put the battery in. (You need to press power button for 1 second to turn it back on) See if any lights come on, if so press power + camera and hit reset, if it gets you to the Bootloader screen, you can just flash up to a newer rom.
If you had 6.1, you probably had a GPS enabled radio, and therefore can install any V3.x rom from DCD and be back up and running.
When you first power it on, it has some numbers in the bottom right corner, if they will show up, write them down and post them back here, from that we can determine which rom you need to install.
BTC
if you can get it into bootloader, i would flash a newer radio before anything else. youre doing some serious version jumping, but generally any custom rom you flash should be using radio 3.42.50. also, 3.2.5 or 3.2.6 are completely stable.
Nope, still not powering on... tried everything I could think of and some stuff I didn't. As far as firmware goes I was using 3.27.00 with SPL 2.40 Bootloader.
If I can't figure it out, I need to decide if I am going to buy out the last year of my contract, get it repaired (if possible), or buy a new one at full price (ouch).
After this phone nothing else will do for me LOL... I love my WMPPC!
I'd try charging the battery with another Titan or with a battery charger.
Another thing to check is whether you get a red LED light when you have the charger plugged in to the phone, but no battery installed.
Ok, so it seems that it is totally unrelated to the flashing process. I opened the phone today to see what I could see. A few weeks ago the vibrate stopped working and I figured that the motor burned out and didn't worry about it. Well it turns out that the little bit of glue that holds the motor in place gave out and it was moving around in the phone. It finally crossed a couple of terminals and shorted out the board. Thanks for the input guys. Got another Titan on the way to play with now

Urgent Help Required - NIKI 100 Dead

HI,
I purchased Touch Dual from UK as SIM FREE unit last year. Couple of days back i checked the HTC web site and saw the WM 6.1 upgrade from HTC available there; So yesterday i downloaded that file i.e. " RUU_Nike_HTC_WWE_2.09.405.1_Radio_NikeMR_1.65.28.25_signed_Ship " and upgrade the device.
At the time of running the RUU the unit battery level was 70% and after the upgrade the battery was almost 55%. So i kept using the device and that was perfect. Anyhow i forgot to recharge the device and next morning i realised that Unit went off somewhere during the night. So i simply attach the charger cable with device but immedately i realised that the usual orange light hasn't turned on and after a while the red colour light shows up instaed of orange. Upon seening this i try to turn on the device and its turned on BUT went into AEROPLANE MODE automatically and stays there. And above all the BATTERY ALWAYS SHOWING THE CHARGE LEVEL IS 0% besides the fact that unit is continiously charging from the last 24 hours....
And if i remove the charger the becomes dead..
Any suggestion would highly appreciated.
This can mean two things:
1. Your battery is broken
2. Your charger doesn't work well (I had this with a blackberry charger I borrowed from someone)
The second is the easiest to check if you charge it with a usb cable instead of the charger you can see if it works or with another charger of course. It switches to airplane mode when the battery level is to low so don't worry about that. The led is red when it really has no battery level at all so also nothing to worry about
Good luck.
wmn79 said:
This can mean two things:
..... nothing to worry about
Good luck.
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Thanks for the suggestion. The problem is solved ... Now i know that if battery went to ZERO level than one must remove the SIM and charge the unit.... for atleast the initial 10% charge level... after that insert the sim into unit...
Anyway Thanks again

My phone doest power on or charge Nothing!

I was flashing a new rom. And after it said 100% on the phone it turned black and never lit up again. I waited i didnt pull out the usb. 15 min later i checked it again still black. i pulled the usb out. hit the power button and nothing happend. i did a hard reset and still the phone wount power on. The phone's charging led light wount even come on when i plug it up. So i assume i have bricked me phone ?
I have HSPL3
miri19v
froyostone 3.1v
is there any way to bring it back to life or do i toss it in the trash?
thanks for the help
i have also tried to go into boot loader and NIL!
from your use of the word 'trash' can i assume you have a tmous hd2? if so, what did you flash? was it a non tmous stock rom (meaning a bad radio)?
(oh, first job tho, check for bent battery pins)
the pins are fine. yeah i was actually flashing a stock tmou rom.
got the full filename for the rom you downloaded please? (just checking you havent downloaded a t mobile rom that isnt tmous)
the reason im pushing that line of enquiry is that the symptoms you describe are consistent with either
wrong radio (from the wrong stock rom)
bent battery pin
over discharged battery
to test the over discharged battery you can take it out, plug usb in with wall charger, then put battery in. this lets it charge without trying to turn on the phone. the light may not come one for some time, so leave it a good hour or two.
Hey Sam,
I'm having this issue too. I am relatively positive it's from an over-discharged battery. The phone conked out a few nights ago, and later when trying to charge it I got nothing - until yanking the battery for a bit, plugging in the charger, then popping in the battery. Now, every time the battery drains I have to do this.
Is the battery "damaged" now, or do you have any suggestions to fix the prob? I see this posted a bit but no one has any solutions that I've found.
Thanks!
Ryan
well i know the principals of these batteries, but not really the mechanics, so yes id guess the battery is defective, (but it could be the phones internal battery control circuits too, again just guessing) but no i dont know if there is a cure, other than try another battery, and if it cures it, ok, but if not then it would be a warranty issue.
are you using android? cos from what ive read it discharges quickly under android or something? (never used it so cant tell)

[Q]HELP: HD2 have I broken it?

I have bought european HD 2, but with android on it, I tried to flash back to WinMo 6.5. After flashing winmo from PC (Original RUU), it has ended successfully with 100%, but when I looked on phone it became black and didn't switched on, after awhile I removed battery and reinserted in, but couldn't turn on phone. I get just sound on my PC that something is connected to it... phone can't be turned on. can I do anything from PC to unbrick it?
Exactly what rom did you flash ? complete file name or link from where you got it would be good.
What colour are call & end keys on your hd2 ?
U try using the rest button under rear battery cover.
Does HD2 show red led when connected to charger ?
Can RUU detect & attempt reflash ?
What is charge state of battery ? can you charge it on external battery charger as maybe flat & not charge with device off pending on what bootloader was used with Android. Could also be serious hardware issue with HD2.

My Galaxy wont charge via PC or Charger

My battery started to drain fast few days ago, i thought it was a software issue(some apps). Yesterday i put it on the charger, as i didnt put it, nothing happend, i thought my charger broke, i put it on PC, same, wont charge, now im thinking the connector broke, u put USB OTG memory stick and it reads it normally, so the port is working, tryed factory reset and reflashing offical stock rom, problem isnt solved, also when the phone is in download mode on charger or pc, and i take out the battery the phone stays on, it takes power directly from the charger(this is normal), witch i think confirms its a battery problem, not a phone. Now, anyone faced this problem also? Have expirience whit this, any advice what should i do (im gona try with new battery but its a weekend, no stores working). Any help, any chance its really a battery problem, not a phone?
EDIT: Also when the battery is in, phone off, put it on charger, the empty battery shows, the grey curcle arrow rolls (battery stats are read), then it shows the battery level for a second, and the circles bellow it instead of zooming in and out in movement, it stays at the first for a seccond and then the display turns off, nothing, no red light also.
Contact issue
tomashaker4e said:
My battery started to drain fast few days ago, i thought it was a software issue(some apps). Yesterday i put it on the charger, as i didnt put it, nothing happend, i thought my charger broke, i put it on PC, same, wont charge, now im thinking the connector broke, u put USB OTG memory stick and it reads it normally, so the port is working, tryed factory reset and reflashing offical stock rom, problem isnt solved, also when the phone is in download mode on charger or pc, and i take out the battery the phone stays on, it takes power directly from the charger(this is normal), witch i think confirms its a battery problem, not a phone. Now, anyone faced this problem also? Have expirience whit this, any advice what should i do (im gona try with new battery but its a weekend, no stores working). Any help, any chance its really a battery problem, not a phone?
EDIT: Also when the battery is in, phone off, put it on charger, the empty battery shows, the grey curcle arrow rolls (battery stats are read), then it shows the battery level for a second, and the circles bellow it instead of zooming in and out in movement, it stays at the first for a seccond and then the display turns off, nothing, no red light also.
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In my opinion the usb connector dirty. Clean it.
gtcat said:
In my opinion the usb connector dirty. Clean it.
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Cleaned it right now, its not that.
tomashaker4e said:
My battery started to drain fast few days ago, i thought it was a software issue(some apps). Yesterday i put it on the charger, as i didnt put it, nothing happend, i thought my charger broke, i put it on PC, same, wont charge, now im thinking the connector broke, u put USB OTG memory stick and it reads it normally, so the port is working, tryed factory reset and reflashing offical stock rom, problem isnt solved, also when the phone is in download mode on charger or pc, and i take out the battery the phone stays on, it takes power directly from the charger(this is normal), witch i think confirms its a battery problem, not a phone. Now, anyone faced this problem also? Have expirience whit this, any advice what should i do (im gona try with new battery but its a weekend, no stores working). Any help, any chance its really a battery problem, not a phone?
EDIT: Also when the battery is in, phone off, put it on charger, the empty battery shows, the grey curcle arrow rolls (battery stats are read), then it shows the battery level for a second, and the circles bellow it instead of zooming in and out in movement, it stays at the first for a seccond and then the display turns off, nothing, no red light also.
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Many Galaxy S3 have problems with the charging port and need repair maybe for 20 to 30 bucks.
santij07 said:
Many Galaxy S3 have problems with the charging port and need repair maybe for 20 to 30 bucks.
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I hope you are right, i had that problem before, and replaced it, after then im extremely careful and gentle, so i think there are very low chances that thats the problem, i will take it to service later today, its still under warranty
Its probably a faulty battery
I had a faulty cable and man it was horrible
I was on vacations so no shops around, the phone would constantly show charger connected/disconnected and would take ages to charge

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