Hi guys,
I was wondering if anybody could recommend me a simple, clean stock-like custom ROM without unnecessary programs and things installed. The primary reason for me wanting to flash to a custom ROM is for the considerable performance gain I keep reading about.
I have an Australian-bought unbranded HTC Touch Pro (raph100).
Thanks in advance,
Tim
timolol said:
Hi guys,
I was wondering if anybody could recommend me a simple, clean stock-like custom ROM without unnecessary programs and things installed. The primary reason for me wanting to flash to a custom ROM is for the considerable performance gain I keep reading about.
I have an Australian-bought unbranded HTC Touch Pro (raph100).
Thanks in advance,
Tim
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Tim,
Since this will be closed very quickly by mods....read in this section for a lite roms...the cooks put in the heading if they make lite Roms. Click on the rom and read the first few pages and it will tell you what is included in it...some examples are Da G and NATF's. No one knows what "unnecessary programs and things installed" is because it is different for each person.
I would go with this one. Actually, I am. It has ZERO bloatware in it and is very fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441109
I use the Optus stock ROM w/ 1.08.25.20M1 Radio. It's fantastic...
ROM link: http://210.64.124.194/download/RUU_...d_Raphael_CRC_52.33.25.17_1.02.25.19_Ship.exe
-Mc
Thanks for the suggestions guys. The Optus stock ROM is actually the one that came with my device originally since this is an Australian TP. If you don't think that any considerable performance gain can be had by installing a cooked ROM then I may as well stick with this. Thanks anyway
Tim
(PS. I'm new here, so I don't quite understand why this thread will be quickly closed by mods... sorry
You can flash any rom you want since most don't include a radio.
I use Da_G's Roms because they don't include ANYTHING. The ROM is a very basic WM6.1 rom with all of the latest drivers for the best performance. All programs outside of the standard windows apps are separate downloads which can be installed as you see fit.
This is nice because you get to see what a BASIC Windows Mobile environment is and what the phone runs like without all the extra HTC extras. It also gives a very good starting point to customize the phone the way YOU want.
The good thing is that because YOU install all the extras manually... you can also uninstall them in the event a newer version comes out.
There are other good ROMs too... but most come with a "standard" set of programs, most of which I don't ever use or want. I like Da_G's because I can be in control of what is on my phone.
My 2 cents.
timolol said:
(PS. I'm new here, so I don't quite understand why this thread will be quickly closed by mods... sorry
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so? new or not, it would make sense to read the wiki first. i think they even put sometihng in to tell u to read the wiki after signing up (though i'm not 100% about that), but either way, you should try doign some reading before posting. it can seem liek a lot to read, but if u want to make improvements to ur phoen, then take some time to invest in it.
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Please don't flame me because I'm new to flashing.... I have been reading and digging for two hours but this information is very overwhelming and a lot to understand. I dug through the WIKI but am still hoping for a little guidance... I just got an AT&T Fuze and am looking to upgrade the rom. My questions are the following:
1) Using standard software (ActiveSync), can I back everything up and then restore it after a ROM update?
2) Do I need any special software to do the ROM update?
3) Is the performance difference really worth my time and effort?
4) Is it as easy as changing the registry key to remap the keyboard back?
5) Are there any negative ramifications of upgrading the ROM?
6) Is there a certain ROM that you guys recommend for speed but that is also stable?
I have no interest in modifying the ROMs... I'm just looking for a good solution to make this phone perfect by pepping it up a little bit.
Thanks for all the help!
hah2110 said:
1) Using standard software (ActiveSync), can I back everything up and then restore it after a ROM update?
2) Do I need any special software to do the ROM update?
3) Is the performance difference really worth my time and effort?
4) Is it as easy as changing the registry key to remap the keyboard back?
5) Are there any negative ramifications of upgrading the ROM?
6) Is there a certain ROM that you guys recommend for speed but that is also stable?
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Just IMHO :
1-U can only backup all the syncable outlook items.
2-U need to install HardSPL to unlock ur device.
3-Here, all our time are not worthless wasted.
4-Peace of cake.
5-No but with coutious.
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Thanks & sorry for my english.
I was wondering about a lot of these questions as well.
What would you guys suggest for roms to try?
Are some faster than others? Have more programs than others? Why do you like that specific flavor over the others?
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I was wondering about a lot of these questions as well.
What would you guys suggest for roms to try?
Are some faster than others? Have more programs than others? Why do you like that specific flavor over the others?
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Monx there is responsible for putting up ROMeOS, which is what the to answer the "which rom" question lol
I'm about to flash ROMeOS to see why everyone loves it so much
I'll keep ya updated!
while we're at it, i'm going to post a question that i left in the raphael subforum here as well. is there an easier to understand instruction on how to flash back to stock rom for warranty purposes? i read into it...and got myself very confused
thanks in advance for any help/advice.
@Scoop3
Thanks for ur support
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while we're at it, i'm going to post a question that i left in the raphael subforum here as well. is there an easier to understand instruction on how to flash back to stock rom for warranty purposes? i read into it...and got myself very confused
thanks in advance for any help/advice.
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Just follow these easy steps:
1-Flash ur stock ROM ( I assume u know where to find it )
2-See HardSPL forum & download Manual SSPL & stock ROM SPL
3-Unpack Manual SSPL, copy to ur device & run from ur device.
4-Flash Stock SPL as normal flash.
5-Done. (Send for warranty)
I hope there is nothing I missed
Can anyone else comment on 2,3 or 6? Thanks guys!
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Can anyone else comment on 2,3 or 6? Thanks guys!
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Shees
2: you need hardspl, as stated before
3: yes, most cooked roms are much more responsive then the standard rom
6: read the start posts of the threads, and decide what you want, I don't have my crystal ball at hand to tell you what rom to use
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6) Is there a certain ROM that you guys recommend for speed but that is also stable?
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I too was very erm, "dubious" about how good a cooked ROM could be, how much difference it'd make, etc, also was very confused about which to use.
I tried the new Elite ROM, which was fantastic, but to me (and this is why we have different ROM's) it was loaded with just too much stuff, it worked well, but was overkill. I then gave ROMeOS2 a go, and found that to be a lot "lighter weight" then the Elite ROM.
it is all to do with what you want, if you want a fully loaded ROM, with tonnes of included goodness, then the likes of the Elite ROM are great, if you want a simpler, lighter weight ROM, then the likes of ROMeOS2 are super too.
it is all to do with personal preferences...
Thanks for making this thread and answering the questions on this thread. I too am new to this, and read as much as I could but at the end its overwhelming. This thread helped with alot of my questions for a beginner. Thanks guys keep up the good work.
Ditto... I've reading for the past few hours and got myself totally confused because this arena is completely new to me. Thank you all for your hard work and patience with noobs like me.
Can someone please provide us a resource that isnt cluttered like nuts to flash the phone with the snappiest rom available?
I have to agree with below. I tried Elite, then PROven and finally ROMeOS2. I liked ROMeOS2 the best out of all of them, followed by Elite. This is in terms of speed. ROMeOS is not feature packed, but you can always add this stuff in yourself, and thats what I prefer to do.
GazzaK said:
I tried the new Elite ROM, which was fantastic, but to me (and this is why we have different ROM's) it was loaded with just too much stuff, it worked well, but was overkill. I then gave ROMeOS2 a go, and found that to be a lot "lighter weight" then the Elite ROM.
it is all to do with personal preferences...
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Does anyone know of any simple, easy walkthroughs for updating the ROM? I really need to do this.
hah2110 said:
Please don't flame me because I'm new to flashing.... I have been reading and digging for two hours but this information is very overwhelming and a lot to understand. I dug through the WIKI but am still hoping for a little guidance... I just got an AT&T Fuze and am looking to upgrade the rom. My questions are the following:
1) Using standard software (ActiveSync), can I back everything up and then restore it after a ROM update?
2) Do I need any special software to do the ROM update?
3) Is the performance difference really worth my time and effort?
4) Is it as easy as changing the registry key to remap the keyboard back?
5) Are there any negative ramifications of upgrading the ROM?
6) Is there a certain ROM that you guys recommend for speed but that is also stable?
I have no interest in modifying the ROMs... I'm just looking for a good solution to make this phone perfect by pepping it up a little bit.
Thanks for all the help!
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1) Generally speaking updating between rom versions isn't a good idea, but you can find plenty of information about backing up your rom by searching.
2) You need HardSPL, and then to follow the flashing instructions. The information is already provided in numerous places.
3) If it wasn't do you think so many people would do it? If you don't think so, then you've only wasted one flash if you try.
4) There is a cab file to change the keyboard layout, search for it, you will find it.
5) That's a ridiculously broad questions, all the risks of flashing are easy to find, yet again, i say "search"
6) There is no "best" rom, it depends on what your preferences are.
Please use the tools are your disposal. Thread is now closed.
Hi
Sorry - but something of a newbie question...
I've Security Unlocked my phone (yehee!) inc HardSPL. Now I have the urge to do something more exciting with it... but haven't a clue where to start!
Can I just load a new ROM on, or do I need to load other things to go with it?
Can anyone recommend a good ROM to try first? Ideally something with a quite clean interface (perhaps 'Diamond'ish?). Or maybe list one or two options?
Are there any versions which are known to be stable, as opposed to bang up to date, but not fully tested - or are they all works in progress?
DO I need to update my radio / HardSPL 1.15? Currently R1.58.16.27 / G25.61.30.03H
Many thanks to anyone who take the trouble to answer.
You can start playing with HardSpl 1.22, then continue with the radio version, and, finally, try a couple of ROM'S i.e. LUZY is very nice, smooth, and includes Manilla 2D.
Recomendations
I would highly recommend upgrading your Hard SPL to 1.22 as most new ROMs require this and upgrade your radio also (I am using 1.71.09.01, find it superb). I can also recommend Nemanjlo's WM6.5 Rom I used to flash a ROM a week but since having this one I love it. There is a thread dedicated to plugins and extras for customizing WM6.5 check the "WM6.5 Tips and Tricks" Thread a guy called TWolf has done some amazing flash stuff with 6.5. There are also links to some amazing widgets in that thread: Weather, Facebook, You Tube and Twitter to name a few
Hope This Helps
Hi Guys
Many thanks for the suggestions. Exactly what I was hoping for and very nice to get clear, straight answers.
GM
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....I can also recommend Nemanjlo's WM6.5 Rom I used to flash a ROM a week but since having this one I love it....
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Do you use the latest version? Or is there an earlier 'stable' version you've stuck with?
Also, he seems to have 4 versions! Standard and Lite for 2G and 3G. Which do you recommend?
What is the difference between the 2G and 3G? If it makes a difference, I'm with UK T-Mob and have an account with inclusive data.
Thanks
GM
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...try a couple of ROM'S i.e. LUZY is very nice
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Hi - I can't seem to find this - can you point me in the right direction please?
Regards
Adam
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........What is the difference between the 2G and 3G? If it makes a difference, I'm with UK T-Mob and have an account with inclusive data.
GM
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I think the difference between 3G and 2G is the video calling (Which I never use) I have the latest standard version of the ROM with the 3G dialer (Skinned) it is fast and stable. My "Today screen" is a project being run by the titanium crew (Check the "Tips and Tricks Thread") to make it look like WM7
Backup
This may be a bit patronising but I would recommend using "PIMBackup" (Search for PIMbackup using the forum to download) and backup all of your info to your Memory card. This will cover things like Contacts, Text and Emails.
If you have any bought or newly installed programes on your device make sure you have all the activation codes available and CAB files on your storage card or PC. As when you flash a ROM it is like a hard reset, everything will be wiped and can be a bit of a pain reinstalling everything if you do not have it to hand.
I have a folder on my storage card called CABS and I simply go down the list after a ROM flash reinstalling everything.
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This may be a bit patronising ...
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Not at all - thanks!
I managed to wipe everything when I first loaded HardSPL. Fortunately, I have most of the cabs and much of the data was reinstalled by ActiveSync. But I suspect I lost some things I'd prefer to have kept.
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My "Today screen" is a project being run by the titanium crew (Check the "Tips and Tricks Thread") to make it look like WM7
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Thanks again. I'm away for a couple of weeks now - but will try these out when I get back.
Are there any manilla looking roms, or nice looking roms that still have touchcube? I just dont like the manilla actions and want to keep the touchcube. Is there anything?
is there a wiki or thread that says which roms can be used on 20 key Neons?
Hello everyone,
most recently I have updated my Hero to the new ROM supplied by the fellows at HTC (the 2.73... I think). Then I remembered that on my HTC S710 I used to have a rom that came from here. So, I took a look. I have a couple of questions. Oh, let me also tell you that I have rooted my phone (I think, with Instant Root).
So these are my questions:
What do you think is the best rom available?
And why? What are its advantages to a 'normal' HTC Rom?
As a beginner, I can look over this forum for hours (I did!) but still miss out on this answer!
there is no answer to this question, that's why.
It's like asking which is better, up or down?
Everyone will prefer a different ROM for different reasons. get your device flashed to the new recovery image and then you can try all the ROMS and decide for yourself what the 'best' one is.
Personally i stick with the generic ROMs and haven't used the modaco custom ROMs yet as i am happy with the way the device works and not in need of all the hacks that other people want as i rarely use them.
you may be different.
try them all and decide for yourself.
Hm. Yes, I like the way you are thinking - and heck, it is the second time you've given me a great reply! I'll go out and tinker with the world, and more specific: with ROMs! Although I have no idea what flashing my device to a new recovery image means, I do remember having to do something similar with my S710. And I am sure I will find an explanation here! Who knows, pherhaps in a short while, I will answer my own questions!
There aren't many customised ROMs for the Hero yet, partly because the source code isn't available yet from HTC, so the ones that do exist are based on versions of the HTC ROMs.
Use Flashrec and install the awesome modified cyanogen recovery image, then you can flash one of the ROMs. I chose the stock UK ROM pre-rooted, from MoDaCo's site (not the MoDaCo customised ROM though).
It's convenient because it is pretty much the stock experience, except it's pre-rooted which makes some other things possible.
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Hm. Yes, I like the way you are thinking - and heck, it is the second time you've given me a great reply! I'll go out and tinker with the world, and more specific: with ROMs! Although I have no idea what flashing my device to a new recovery image means, I do remember having to do something similar with my S710. And I am sure I will find an explanation here! Who knows, pherhaps in a short while, I will answer my own questions!
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Hey, I upgraded from a S710 to a Hero as well. I'm very happy with having done that as the Hero is such a better phone!
Anyway. Flashing a new recovery image is one one of these 'tinkering' things you/we have to get used to when playing with ROMs. Essentially the recovery image is a very basic control on the phone that you can reboot into, from where you can update the ROM or do total system backups. You can read about how to do this in MoDaCo's custom ROM thread in the android development section. Flashing a new recovery image and new ROM isn't too hard really; took me at most a couple of hours.
Hey guys !
I've been around here for many years but have allways been using Windows Mobile phones. I've had a Hero for about a year and i must say that i am very pleased with it. It works so damn good ! I've been flashing roms on windows mobile phones and even created roms my self.
However this Android / Linux world is so new to me that i have no idea what i need to do in order to simply flash a rom on my Hero!
What i get is that i need to root my device. There are some few guides for this in the wiki but i still do not know if my Hero is a Virgin og a Telus. How can i see this?
Also i see a lot of Linux based talk and commands (i presume) that i do not understand anything of. Do we have any desciption of the most common used commands and such stuff so new people like me can get a better understanding of what you guys are actually talking about?
When i learn all this i will edit the wiki with the information. And as i am new it is easier for me to fill in what is missing if you understand
.. And yes i have searched!
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Hey guys !
I've been around here for many years but have allways been using Windows Mobile phones. I've had a Hero for about a year and i must say that i am very pleased with it. It works so damn good ! I've been flashing roms on windows mobile phones and even created roms my self.
However this Android / Linux world is so new to me that i have no idea what i need to do in order to simply flash a rom on my Hero!
What i get is that i need to root my device. There are some few guides for this in the wiki but i still do not know if my Hero is a Virgin og a Telus. How can i see this?
Also i see a lot of Linux based talk and commands (i presume) that i do not understand anything of. Do we have any desciption of the most common used commands and such stuff so new people like me can get a better understanding of what you guys are actually talking about?
When i learn all this i will edit the wiki with the information. And as i am new it is easier for me to fill in what is missing if you understand
.. And yes i have searched!
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Theunlockr.com is an excellent source of information on rooting/flashing your Hero.
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Theunlockr.com is an excellent source of information on rooting/flashing your Hero.
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Seconded.
And when you're unlocked, check out Villain and Vanillain ROM's (check out previous post), definitely two of the best
if you want to know if your phone is rooted download and install "Super user" and run it,you will then know if your phone is rooted or not.
I,like you,was a WM user and found android to be more complicated,but in fact it´s not...once you root your phone and install Amon-RA recovery ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4549551&postcount=1 ) its much easier and simple to do things.
theres a sticky in this sub-forum with wiki-guides,read it!
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Seconded.
And when you're unlocked, check out Villain and Vanillain ROM's (check out previous post), definitely two of the best
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True used a lot those roms.
Waiting patiently for a Vanillain rom based in eris dump.
Right now im still using AychTeeSee's just to be able to use the Buuf Theme
I'm in the exact same situation as Da9L . Could you please let me know if flashing a new ROM will also change the Firmware version?
Currently my firmware is 1.5. I've seen on a friend's G1 the voice search widget and I'm dying to get that on my device. From what I've been told, i need to get a newer firmware, but I've got no idea on how to do this.
Any help would be appreciated ^_^
Some questions:
So the short line of the process of flashing a custom rom is when using unbranded htc hero:
1. Downgrade my software to 1.76, as iam using the newest
2. Root the device acording to _this_ guide
3. Perform a backup
4. Flash the custom rom as i flash a stock rom?
Is that it? It leads me to some more questions
What is this "recovery image" and is there any reason to flash a new one?
And why is there any reason to change this at all ?
How do i get danish xt9 for sms?
And please i have a feeling that i am getting this wrong.. Can you please explain to me the procedure of doing all this ?
Is there any benefit by flashing a rom?
I mean the stock rom actually runs pretty good and is stable. A custom rom is likely to be a little more unstable than a stock rom, but often give you more speed and newer features. This is when we are talking Windows Mobile, but is it the same here? What are the pros and cons by flashing a custom rom over the stock rom?
Da9L said:
Is there any benefit by flashing a rom?
I mean the stock rom actually runs pretty good and is stable. A custom rom is likely to be a little more unstable than a stock rom, but often give you more speed and newer features. This is when we are talking Windows Mobile, but is it the same here? What are the pros and cons by flashing a custom rom over the stock rom?
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It varies depending on the ROM tbh. It's a bit like the high-tech version of 'how long's a piece of string'?
Really, you're likely to get improved performance, root permissions, user interface tweaks, different versions of applications that are better than the default ones, maybe a custom kernel (if it's a 1.5 release you're looking at).
The custom kernels can have better performance due to optimisations in them. Not sure how much of this is like winmo (never had a winmo phone, all I know is that you are able to install alternative ROMs on them), but with android the core OS is open source, so you get more performance boosts under the hood.
Anyone able to add to that?
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It varies depending on the ROM tbh. It's a bit like the high-tech version of 'how long's a piece of string'?
Really, you're likely to get improved performance, root permissions, user interface tweaks, different versions of applications that are better than the default ones, maybe a custom kernel (if it's a 1.5 release you're looking at).
The custom kernels can have better performance due to optimisations in them. Not sure how much of this is like winmo (never had a winmo phone, all I know is that you are able to install alternative ROMs on them), but with android the core OS is open source, so you get more performance boosts under the hood.
Anyone able to add to that?
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That sounds great. However, since this is so new to me i do not know what new tweaks and apps i will be able to use and get if you follow me? When i have flashed a new custom rom, propably android 2.1, i do not know what new things it has and therefore where and how to use these new functions. And does the real advantage in a custom rom also get to a normal user or is the advantages more directed at the developers or?
Hello everyone,
currently using HTC Touch 2 and I thought to install a new ROM, so I am interested in your suggestion that ROM to install ..
Best regards from Bosnia and Herzegovina to all of you
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I thought to install a new ROM
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I think to suggest a ROM, people would need to know what you dislike about the original ROM. As of now I think there are no official new ROMs from HTC, which would be the truly "easy" ROMs.
If you just want to play around a bit, just give the ROMs a shot that are here in this forum. You can always go back to your original (or maybe need to back it up, dunno if for bosnia & herzegowina an official ROM is out there).
Maybe a good place to start is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668926
Greetings from Taiwan (from a German who is missing the great Bosnian / Serbian / Croatian food that was pretty abundant in Germany)
I'd also like to point out that this part of the forum is for ROM development not for requests. I think the General forum is the best place to make requests.
As for what you want, yellowfever is absolutely right, we cant possible tell you the easiest ROM to use as each of us may have a different opinion.
If you want my opinion look at the ROMs, they all have screenshots, if you like the look of it flash it, if you like it, great! If you dont like it, flash a different one. Just dont forget to back-up you phone first. grab the SPB Backup demo. It's a real time saver.