First thanks to orefcov for this.
How to:
Dowload this file: test spl
Originally Posted by orefcov
1. Copy bkondisk.exe and bk1.lnk on your device, at root (no memcard).
2. Run bk1.lnk on device. File bk_06_0001.img is appear on device.
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Open the bk_06_0001.img in the notepad and search for this string: "bootloader version" (without quotes)
When you find it, on "Built on" check date. If your date is < march 26 2008 then you have an old gene. If your date is >= march 26 2008 then you have a new gene.
Sorry for any problem that the old method has caused.
With this method is more secure to determine wich model you have.
Original Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360357&page=9
Oh yes, i remember this one. I will update my tut with a link to this thread. But Ramerson, it would be better if you provide a link to a good tool that can be used to compare these two files, as this is the question, i am sure, every noob will ask next
You're right. I've updated the first post with a good freeware.
how to analyze the test report
Hi! Ramersonw
Thanks for the tool....
I have created the Img file...but stuck how to analyze it...
Some lines appear in yellow....but it say line difference zero.... what to do
please help
I updated the first post with the analysis of old and new gene using WinMerge. Take a look.
ramersonw said:
I updated the first post with the analysis of old and new gene using WinMerge. Take a look.
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great work ramersonw
and by the way when are you releasing your new ROM ??
Many Thanks
Hi! Ramersonw
You are really great
I found my gene is old....
does it effect the performance or 3rd party softwares compatibility...
please comment
@krazy: Please update your tutorial
Ya ya sure. I will Thanks for the reminder
method to know gene old or new...Fails
Hi! Ramersonw
very sad to say but the method u mentioned to check whether gene is old or new has failed in my case....
Phone stats....
S/N: HT8XXXXXXXXXX
purchased on 17th Jan '09
ONBL 1.17.0000
SPL 1.17.0000....Now 1.07 oref)
GSM 2.79.90
OS 1.17.0.0
Windows mobile 6 professional
CE OS 5.2.1622 (Build 18128.0.4.4)
ROM Version 1.17.720.1 WWE
ROM Date 03/07/08
Radio Version 2.79.90
Protocol Version 4.1.13.34
ExtROM Versuon 1.17.720.101
when i used the test tool to analyze int img file...it confirmed as old gene...but when i used olipro's method to unlock SPL it bricked my gene...
Finally I had to use geneunbricker and then successfully upgraded to Sumit's ManillaVanilla for new gene....
My device is now working fine.....
Please add it as exception to ur method of determining gene status
imblfmstr said:
Hi! Ramersonw
very sad to say but the method u mentioned to check whether gene is old or new has failed in my case....
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This test was not made by me. I used it to know the model of my gene and it worked. So I re-posted it here.
But if your device has the serial HT8xxx and already came with the WM6 most likely it would be a new gene. The test would not be necessary.
Could you send me your bk_06_0001.img. I want to analyse it.
I'll update the first post with a warning.
its not so
hi
my phone is 8XXX slno and while i did the HSPL (thanks to help from Krazy) i found out that even though my phone was around 7 mths old came with WM6 and p3400i it turned out to be old gene so is suggest( i have also posted a thread on the same in this forum) so kindly dont assume new or old gene by ur nos u need to test with ramersnows testers or use Krays stiky and do the what it says it also has all the tools
this is just for ur info giving u my experience thats all
ramersonw said:
This test was not made by me. I used it to know the model of my gene and it worked. So I re-posted it here.
But if your device has the serial HT8xxx and already came with the WM6 most likely it would be a new gene. The test would not be necessary.
Could you send me your bk_06_0001.img. I want to analyse it.
I'll update the first post with a warning.
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@Ramersonw- wating for ur ROM
hi
u said ur would post ur ROM still wating to test it
thanks in advance
Tomorrow I send you a link to test the rom. I will not post here (at least for now).
mee too
ramersonw said:
Tomorrow I send you a link to test the rom. I will not post here (at least for now).
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Send it to me as well
thanks
hi
will u send me the link as PM or u can mail me at [email protected]
thanks in advance wating to test ur ROM
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Tomorrow I send you a link to test the rom. I will not post here (at least for now).
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for ur info new or old gene
hi
this ONBL 1.17.0000,SPL 1.17.0000,GSM 02.79.90, OS 1.17.0.0 does not mean u have new gene i have the same but mine was found out to be a old one min also had WM6 preloaded and it was p3400i
but Krazys numbers were also the same but his came out as a new gene
so use ramersonw s tester and also read sumits stiky do it word for word it also has the tools do try all of the above before proceeding
and yes pls pls take help from the pros
good luck
Bk img file
Hi Rmersown
S/N: HT8XXXXXXXXXX
purchased on 17th Jan '09
ONBL 1.17.0000
SPL 1.17.0000....Now 1.07 oref)
GSM 2.79.90
OS 1.17.0.0
Please find the img file....
it should be new gene
hi
to my knoledge the .oref should mean it is a new gene
mine is .olip and old gene try flashing sumits pro users should happen
r u getting the tricolur screen while running the Rom utility
goodluck
imblfmstr said:
Hi Rmersown
S/N: HT8XXXXXXXXXX
purchased on 17th Jan '09
ONBL 1.17.0000
SPL 1.17.0000....Now 1.07 oref)
GSM 2.79.90
OS 1.17.0.0
Please find the img file....
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Great going hari
svrhari said:
r u getting the tricolur screen while running the Rom utility
goodluck
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Hi hari,
I think he got his device working...he was just trying to let us know the tool might not be correct all the time... its amazing to see you willing to help all the time...great going buddy... !!!! Thumbs up to you....
imblfmstr said:
Hi! Ramersonw
very sad to say but the method u mentioned to check whether gene is old or new has failed in my case...
when i used the test tool to analyze int img file...it confirmed as old gene...but when i used olipro's method to unlock SPL it bricked my gene...
Finally I had to use geneunbricker and then successfully upgraded to Sumit's ManillaVanilla for new gene....
My device is now working fine.....
Please add it as exception to ur method of determining gene status
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Related
Hey guys!
Whats the difference?
I checked on the WIKI and couldnt find anything.
I have a normal P3400 that i would like to flash to WM 6.1..........
What would be the best ROM to use?
Thaaaanks!
There is no difference in outer looks or hardware of the two. The only difference is in the firmware of the device. Before, people use to believe that devices that came with WM 5 originally or with ONBL and SPL versions below 1.10.000 are old gene and the later ones are new gene. but this has proved wrong lately. Actually there are 2 firmwares for gene and it has become a convention to call them old gene and new gene
krazy_about_technology said:
There is no difference in outer looks or hardware of the two. The only difference is in the firmware of the device. Before, people use to believe that devices that came with WM 5 originally or with ONBL and SPL versions below 1.10.000 are old gene and the later ones are new gene. but this has proved wrong lately. Actually there are 2 firmwares for gene and it has become a convention to call them old gene and new gene
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Thanks man! Wich nice Updated ROM would you recommend? Im sure mine is the old gene, because it has WM 5 onnit?
dont asume chek first
hi
pls chek and make sure because my gene is around 7 months old as per the old nos it was new gene and it is aP3400i which came with wm6 preloaded but when i did HSPL it turned out to be a old gene so i think u should chek before doing anything read Krazys stiky and do what it says then find out if urs is old or new gene and do the needful
^^rac said:
Thanks man! Wich nice Updated ROM would you recommend? Im sure mine is the old gene, because it has WM 5 onnit?
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^^rac said:
Hey guys!
Whats the difference?
I checked on the WIKI and couldnt find anything.
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Read this post
Hi Guys,
I tried searching around however i could not see any new ROMS for Gene for windows 6.5. I noticed that all the other phones like Blackstone and Titan have lots of new ROM for windows 6.5 with lot of other verison. i noticed their version have reached upto to v8 for win 6.5.
If we have any could you please pass it on to me? something like the Honeycomb? Please plase!!
go to following link...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487284
U will got 6.5. which give u imaging experience.
nipun_cse said:
go to following link...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487284
U will got 6.5. which give u imaging experience.
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Thanks for the Prompt reply nipun but that seems like for the New Gene and sadly i have an Old Gene
I think ankit already doing it for old gene. if not, he will start doing vary shortly. i believed it from my sole...
@salim1001
hi
pls look with ur eyes wide open ankit has made 6.5 for old and new gene just spend some time u will see the link in ankits thread as i also have old gene and have used the same
PLS PLS DONT WAST A THREAD first search then ask u will get wat u want
salim1001 said:
Thanks for the Prompt reply nipun but that seems like for the New Gene and sadly i have an Old Gene
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Other phones are having it faster because the quoted ones by you have bigger stomach (ROM memory) so its a bit simpler to cook this huge giant OS for them. For GENE, the cutting and trimming takes a lot of time. Be thankful that its even running on gene because of developers like Ankit here, otherwise you would never be able to see wm 6.5 on gene.
hi i need to ask a question
i have htc p3400i new gene i softspl it and my
onbl says 1.17.000
spl 1.17.oref
gsm 02.79.90
os 1.17.0.0
i m using custom wm6.5 build 23017
i have 2 question ??
1) can i flash a new rom on this one with jst enterin the bootloader mode by pressing the camera and power button without doin soft spl procedure again and using RUU utility and flashing new build????
can i flash any number of roms without doin hard or soft spl again
2) can u post link of any new build ROM wm6.5 for p3400i???
plz help i am new to all this..............
drashish36 said:
hi i need to ask a question
i have htc p3400i new gene i softspl it and my
onbl says 1.17.000
spl 1.17.oref
gsm 02.79.90
os 1.17.0.0
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Yes you can flash any of the ROMs from this forum.
No offence, but do you honestly think that this is the right thread to ask the question?
Links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506763
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=555251
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549076
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=543758
Just a few, take your pick, there are even more...
Thank you,
Thread closure requested.
@everyone:
Since I am yet to get my device, I am still browsing through this forum, so any wasted thread will be immediately asked for closure.
Hello friends
I am new in the forum, and I have a question you change the splash of my htc p3400. I'm using the tutorial in this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442416
In the readme file, MarceloFB alert to unlock the flash rom, but my device is locked.
My htc SPL version is .0000, i think it's G3. What Gene_hspl use to unlock the falash rom to change the splash?
Thanks for any help!
Sorry my bad english.
use the application available here to determine whether u have new gene or old one, then use gene_hspl if its says u have an old gene or use gene_hspl8X if it says u have a new gene.
ALL THE BEST
How come your SPL version is .0000??? It cant be in that format. It should be something like x.xx.xxxx
yea it should be like 1.07.0000
revealing the spl version number cause nothing
thanks for the help.
used the recommended application for stupidgye, which prompts me to have an old gene.
aislan3d said:
thanks for the help.
used the recommended application for stupidgye, which prompts me to have an old gene.
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can u post your comments to that application's thread?
This will help me to make it sticky.
stupidgye said:
can u post your comments to that application's thread?
This will help me to make it sticky.
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stupidgye, i liked a lot of that application was a simple and quick I used to date. I PPC for a while, but never had the courage to change the OS, so I do not have much knowledge of the subject yet, but I tried hard to know if my device was new or old gene, and its link was my best option. I am using wm6.5, and is working very well! thank you very much!
i have gene old spl as olipro but my mistake i did upgrade to orefkov spl , now my bootloader shows spl as orefkov and not going to windows ... so any way to make my spl as olipro ... please help??
Service Center or JTAG, no other option.
krazy_about_technology said:
Service Center or JTAG, no other option.
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Hi Krazy,
How if I take the original old gene's SPL from oficial WM 6 asia, and flash the SpL eith it, nothing to loos to try it.
BesFen said:
Hi Krazy,
How if I take the original old gene's SPL from oficial WM 6 asia, and flash the SpL eith it, nothing to loos to try it.
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it will not solve the problem
read this and then this also
for some reason RUU fails to update the SPL image, the phone comes to screen with progress bar but then RUU fails and says "plaese use a new update utility"
I DONT KNOW Y U PEOPLE ARE SO CARELESS IN DOING SUCH THINGS.....
THERE ARE SO MANY WARNINGS WRITTEN IN STICKY POSTS AND THERE ARE NOW SEVERAL METHODS TO IDENTIFY OLD-NEW GENE AND THEN UPDATE IT...
vaibhav_batra_the_techguy said:
I DONT KNOW Y U PEOPLE ARE SO CARELESS IN DOING SUCH THINGS.....
THERE ARE SO MANY WARNINGS WRITTEN IN STICKY POSTS AND THERE ARE NOW SEVERAL METHODS TO IDENTIFY OLD-NEW GENE AND THEN UPDATE IT...
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Don't get mad. Actually its hilarious. In atleast once in 15 days, you will find one guy or the other bricking his or device by wrongly patching.
Come to think of it, I have seen around three or more pple in the last month alone 'updating' the SPL of their old gene to oref (even though there Gene was not complaining with .olip)
I wonder what they would have done when we joined this forum
ur right buddy @addicted
hi
buddy ur right bulls eye i thinks its more like people think they are too smart and do all crazy things i know for a fact that this has been told a mill+++ times not to try the same anyway try and help the poor soul
some one got into this problem and got out i dont remember who i hope he sees this thread and tries to help
Addicted2xda said:
Don't get mad. Actually its hilarious. In atleast once in 15 days, you will find one guy or the other bricking his or device by wrongly patching.
Come to think of it, I have seen around three or more pple in the last month alone 'updating' the SPL of their old gene to oref (even though there Gene was not complaining with .olip)
I wonder what they would have done when we joined this forum
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I have sucessfully upgraded the old gene
GUYS........... I HAVE RECOVERED MY OLD GENE THAT GOT BRICKED WITH orefkov spl ... IT IS DONE AS ... I PUT MY MOBILE IN BOOT LOADER AND THEN DO THE HSPL OF OLIPRO... IT HAS OLIPRO NBH FINE SO IT GOT UPDATED TO 1.20 OLIPRO SPL THEN AGAIN I RESTART THE MOBILE IN BOOT LOADER AND IT SHOWS THE OLIPRO SPL ... AFTER THAT I UPDATED THE ROM USING RUU AND MOBILE GOT WORKED AND NOW I AM HAVING WM 6.1...
AND AFTER THAT AGAIN I TRYED TO FLASH THE OREFKOV BUT IT FLASHING AND SHOWS ONLY OLIPRO SPL .... IT IS NOT CHANGING THE OREFKOV... SO I JUST LEAVE IT
MY MOBILE WORKING NOW AS SPL 1.20 OLI ... IS IT CORRECT SPL ??? DO I HAVE TO UPDATE OLD GENE ROMS ???
@rahmanee
hi
if my understanding is right ur spl now is .olip so ur gene is old gene
now if u have flashed a ROM for old gene and its working good flash only rom for old gene and don't try any more tricks
stick to old gene flash old gene ROM and have fun
im saying this based on what i understand from ur posting
i hope ur problem is solved good luck
rahmaneee said:
GUYS........... I HAVE RECOVERED MY OLD GENE THAT GOT BRICKED WITH orefkov spl ... IT IS DONE AS ... I PUT MY MOBILE IN BOOT LOADER AND THEN DO THE HSPL OF OLIPRO... IT HAS OLIPRO NBH FINE SO IT GOT UPDATED TO 1.20 OLIPRO SPL THEN AGAIN I RESTART THE MOBILE IN BOOT LOADER AND IT SHOWS THE OLIPRO SPL ... AFTER THAT I UPDATED THE ROM USING RUU AND MOBILE GOT WORKED AND NOW I AM HAVING WM 6.1...
AND AFTER THAT AGAIN I TRYED TO FLASH THE OREFKOV BUT IT FLASHING AND SHOWS ONLY OLIPRO SPL .... IT IS NOT CHANGING THE OREFKOV... SO I JUST LEAVE IT
MY MOBILE WORKING NOW AS SPL 1.20 OLI ... IS IT CORRECT SPL ??? DO I HAVE TO UPDATE OLD GENE ROMS ???
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tanxxxxx it is working haree
yes it is working sir... it was old gene... can u suggest me good wm6.5 rom which is stable and good. just give me a link for wm 6.5 . becasue there are lots roms lol...tanx haree
over clock cpu by homeplus
up to how much mhz i can over clock my cpu in old gene ???using home plus battery status??
im a sumit Fan(Krazy)@ rahamaneee
hi
no offense to the other cooks here but i have always been a Fan of Sumit u can see my sign (Krazy) i can see that he has released a new build try it u will like as his roms are generally loaded with most of the basic things u would need in ur ROM MAKE SURE U USE THE ROM FOR OLD GENE ONLY OK
AND I WAS TOLD THAT OVER CLOKING IS BAD FOR UR PHONE LIFE I WOULD SUGGEST U NOT TO DO I NEVER DID IT WHILE USING MY GENE
rahmaneee said:
yes it is working sir... it was old gene... can u suggest me good wm6.5 rom which is stable and good. just give me a link for wm 6.5 . becasue there are lots roms lol...tanx haree
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up to how much mhz i can over clock my cpu in old gene ???using home plus battery status??
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If you are a speed fanatic like me, you can go for upto 20% of your Core CPU Speed. But do not go beyond that, as it will fry your CPU and drain the battery too. Better use CPU Scalar and set the max speed to 240 MHz and Min speed to 110 MHz (or near about). this gives good speed and performance (balanced).
Hope it helps
Sumitspro wm 6.5 not working
i having my old gene and i updated to 6.5 but it stuck in welcome screen and shows 6.5... Can any one tell me what was the problem ??
did u download the right ROM
hi
did u download the right ROM for ur Phone u need to downlaod the ROM for old gene may be this is the mistake u did
REMEMBER urs is a old gene before downloading chek if it is for ur Phone and then download i have never ever had any problems with Sumits ROM
goodluck
rahmaneee said:
i having my old gene and i updated to 6.5 but it stuck in welcome screen and shows 6.5... Can any one tell me what was the problem ??
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haree said:
hi
did u download the right ROM for ur Phone u need to downlaod the ROM for old gene may be this is the mistake u did
REMEMBER urs is a old gene before downloading chek if it is for ur Phone and then download i have never ever had any problems with Sumits ROM
goodluck
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@haree:
Buddy, his new 6.5 has a problem with old Genes (for once ).
@everyone: Is it too much to read the thread before downloading and flashing? He has said it a number of times that this rom has a problem.
@addicted & rahamanee
hi
buddy got it thanks
@ rahamanee
just flash any other ROM(for old gene) and ur phone should be ok
good luck
Addicted2xda said:
@haree:
Buddy, his new 6.5 has a problem with old Genes (for once ).
@everyone: Is it too much to read the thread before downloading and flashing? He has said it a number of times that this rom has a problem.
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hi
guys i just stumbled upon this link hope it helps it has a few shipped roms for the gene Enjoy
Link : http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Gene/
Note : all are original shipped rom so chek and flash the right rom for ur gene
IMPORTANT READ THIS BEFORE FLASHING : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506467
haree said:
hi
guys i just stumbled upon this link hope it helps it has a few shipped roms for the gene Enjoy
Link : http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Gene/
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Does these contains any SPL ?
Are they SAfe to Flash directly like our Ruu method?
pavanbaw said:
Does these contains any SPL ?
Are they SAfe to Flash directly like our Ruu method?
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I think they are Official and hence one should read this before glashing with any of these.
pavanbaw said:
Does these contains any SPL ?
Are they SAfe to Flash directly like our Ruu method?
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lamborg said:
I think they are Official and hence one should read this before glashing with any of these.
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all are original shipped rom so chek and flash the right rom for ur gene
the above roms are the oldest one i've ever seen...it says windows mobile 5.0.....lol
and also it change my spl to 1.07.0000 ...tried to update the spl by mtty.exe but shows error on step with "ls.bin".....so i'm stuck with this old rom with portugese language...
any help would be appreciated
and also it change my spl to 1.07.0000 ...tried to update the spl by mtty.exe but shows error on step with "ls.bin".....so i'm stuck with this old rom with portugese language...
any help would be appreciated
HTC3400i_np said:
and also it change my spl to 1.07.0000 ...tried to update the spl by mtty.exe but shows error on step with "ls.bin".....so i'm stuck with this old rom with portugese language...
any help would be appreciated
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do not downgrade to wm5.
apart from wanting to check the original OEM apps out (via dump) to add into custom roms for smoother operation i don't see why people want to flash these roms onto their devices...
why not opt for newer, stable build releases rather than downgrade your device to wm5...(its like buying a brand new laptop with the best available config just to run win95 on it)
and if you've read the stickies in the forum, you'd know that it isn't exactly safe or recommended...so why tempt fate...
i am right, ain't i??
Hi,
RUU_Gene_hTC_Asia_India_1.17.720.1_4.1.13.34_02.79.90_Ship.exe is for old Gene I guess.
Can anybody confirm it ?
Regards,
Duron23
psychocyst said:
apart from wanting to check the original OEM apps out (via dump) to add into custom roms for smoother operation i don't see why people want to flash these roms onto their devices...
why not opt for newer, stable build releases rather than downgrade your device to wm5...(its like buying a brand new laptop with the best available config just to run win95 on it)
and if you've read the stickies in the forum, you'd know that it isn't exactly safe or recommended...so why tempt fate...
i am right, ain't i??
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hi
i saw a few postings asking for original roms for their gene and got a few Pms too so i was just trying to help OK checking if this is the right one for their phone is the individuals job right
@haree
Bhai cud u give us any new roms from phamguang ..that pda viet somewhat like that..u used to post.
premolikeshtc said:
Bhai cud u give us any new roms from phamguang ..that pda viet somewhat like that..u used to post.
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hi
sorry to say Pham has totally stopped development on gene looks like hes given up on ur gene sorry no action at all frum hm on the gene in fact he even stopped action on the Jade
but we got great developers here look around ull get some real good roms here
Plzz Help
I tried this shipped ROM, it change my spl to 1.07.0000 ...tried to replace the ROM, but it fails, it messages " The Image file is corrupted please check your update utility" what I do now, plzz help me to update my ROM, i'm stuck with this old rom with portugese language........any help would be appreciated
Thanks Haree. I thought they can be something special . I make my own rom since besfen shared his kitchen.
horry said:
I tried this shipped ROM, it change my spl to 1.07.0000 ...tried to replace the ROM, but it fails, it messages " The Image file is corrupted please check your update utility" what I do now, plzz help me to update my ROM, i'm stuck with this old rom with portugese language........any help would be appreciated
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Hi
READ READ
i have this on the first page :
Note : all are original shipped rom so chek and flash the right rom for ur gene and its in BOLD letters
its ur job to find out the right rom for u