Touch Pro in India ... looking for a Desi Solution - Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development

for starters ... want to apologize if people feel I should have posted in an existing thread rather than starting a new one. I have searched quite a bit and couldn't find an answer to the several questions I have. That said ...
I live in Bangalore India, and recently purchased a TP. It's an Idea Cellular branded model which in all the advertising is listed as a 7276 (though Device Info says 7272). The phone does not have a front facing camera, though it does have the Q7201a chip - so it should be capable of 3G.
The problems I'm facing are quite a few, and I'm wondering if it's Radio, ROM, carrier, etc.. and I'm hoping the members of this forum also in India can help point me in the right direction.
BTW - my phone is unlocked and I'm using Airtel in Bangalore.
a. battery life is aweful
b. wifi has poor signal strength and resets every couple minutes
c. GPS won't fix on a satellite
What ROM / Radio combination have you found to work well?
Have you gotten GPS to work.
If using Airtel have you gotten NOP or Airtel Live to work?
Do you use wifi successfully?
Background Details
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A.
With the stock ROM the phone would run through it's battery in about 1/2 a day. Sitting on my nightstand with BT, WIFI, GPRS all turned off and not getting a single SMS or call, it would deplete by close to 20%.
I've tried a few other ROMs and have had various results ... the new HTC ROM is ok, but still BAD. Elite RC3 seemed better. AtomAng's newest and Energy ROM 2.0 31709 both chew through the battery pretty bad. When making/receiving a call or SMS the battery will deplete by 2~4%, but will otherwise be OK if sitting idle.
I'm suspecting it could be carrier related as I switch between Edge and GPRS constantly.
B.
Sitting within a meter of my Linksys Dual N router, I get 1mbps transmit and it resets every minute or so. If I walk upstairs, I can pretty much kiss my signal goodbye. With my VOX I could hold the signal no problem. This has been consistent with every ROM I have used.
C.
I have tried every hack and setting I can find on this one...
Using any tool I can see in the upwards of 16 satellites, but will never lock onto even a single one. I left my phone plugged in and sitting on the window ledge last night ... 3 hours and still not a single lock.
This is the 2nd handset from Idea as well ... the 1st one had audio problems and was replaced with a completely new handset.
Thanks for any help...I really want to like this phone, but right now I can't see me keeping it much longer.
---Rob

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pics will help
Hi Rob,
If you send a couple of pics, me or someone else maybe able to give you better directions:
1. open the keyboard, take a pic of the whole device from the front
2. open the battery cover, remove the battery and take a pic, please black out the IMEI number before uploading this pic, I do not know any other sensitive info.
I have a suspicion it maybe a rebranded fuze, in that case flash the latest radio 1.12.25.19 and try EnergyROM 1.7 or for latest interface 2.0 (31809). But let me see the pics.
About GPS, I usually do not get a lock from a ROM until I download data in QuickGPS, try that. I think for our geographic location that matters.

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Try NATF Roms
I was visiting India last month and was using my AT&T Fuze unlocked running NATF 4.2 ROM (now it is 4.4). I used idea, Airtel and CellOne all three providers and was able to get it to work flawlessly. The battery used to last 3 days on a single charge.
I did not test the GPS but did test the Wifi and BT and they work fine.
AT&T Fuze has a different keyboard layout than Touch Pro. So compare the keyboard layout and find the correct ROM and keyboard patch to use it in your phone.

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i m using ROMeOS ROM and Radio 1.11.25.01 and it works perfectly fine....
for GPS, try GPS Test and some fixes available as Cabs....u can search for them in XDA........also use advance config tool and disable aGPS......
i usually get GPS lock in 10-20 seconds
on wifi signal, i cant comment, as i dont use it.........
on Battery usage, agree that battery on Touch Pro is awefull, but still i manage to end the day with 30-40 % charge after normal usage.....again search and find some tips and quick fixes, eg disabling 3g network etc etc
hope it helps you
do let me know, in case ne othr help needed

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Hi,
I am also from Bangalore and am using an unlocked Fuze on the Airtel Network.
My Device : Fuze
My Radio : 1.12.25.19
Rom : Energy31709
I suggest you read up in this link by member Nvious regarding battery tips, these are working very well for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3411492&postcount=930
For better performance and stability i suggest use either Energy 1.5Final or RRE 4 Ver 2 final. Both are really good Roms and the other roms by the same chefs are really in beta stage and getting updated everyday.
Regarding GPS: the HTC GPS tool does the same for me. It can see 16 sats but doesnt lock on to one, but if you check with Chartcross Gps Test or on Google maps if you use the Use GPS function i do get an under 20sec lock and also 10 sats giving a very accurate location of me in the lawn(pretty accurate, inspite of the built in 30m error).
Hope this helps
Ice

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Thanks for the quick replies ...
Tazzix
I'll get some pics out shortly...
...the keyboard has a top row of numbers so that would make it a TP. However, it's missing the front camera && it comes default with 3G turned off. Some kind of weird hybrid.
I'm currently on Energy ROM 2.0 build 31809, and just flashed the 1.12.25.19 radio an hour ago ... did the rilphone2.dll copy w/a regedit. Battery is absolutely horrible now ... a 30 min call sucked my batter by 35%.
chicagomce
Yeah, the keyboard is a TP not FUZE keyboard.
Kingjack
I've been using Adv. Config from day 1, and have done every hack for power savings I could find on xda & other HTC sites (enabled power management for everything, turned off GPRS & 3G, sleep after 1 min, keep BT and WiFi off unless I'm using it...). It's the weirdest thing ... I literaly lose 2~4% of battery each and every time I get an SMS or send one ... call drain the battery at about 1% per minute.
Ice
Interesting thing about the 1.12.25.19 radio ... I now 'find' 16 satellites in about 2 seconds, but still won't lock onto a single one - let google, HTC GPSTool, Visual GPSce and ChartCross all have a crack at it, and the result is the same ... 16 satellites get spotted but nothing will lock no matter how long I let it sit (even with QuickGPS updated no more than a minute before
each test).
When you use Google Maps does it ever go away from Seeking GPS satellites (0)? I've noticed my location is pretty much on the spot, but I thought that was because of the information passed on
Thanks for the tip on the battery link ... I already do that and a lot more, so nothing stood out as a culprit.
I'm really missing my VOX : (
---Rob

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1. The rilphone is already cooked into Energy 31 series for 1.12.25.19 in energy roms as far as i know .....so messing with it may not be a good idea...unless you really know what you are doing.
2. yes it shows 10 in the brackets for me like this Satt....(10). When you say accurate how accurate is it?.
If i let my data connection do my position in google maps it points me to the location of the nearest tower which is 600m away, however when i say use gps it gives my location as my lawn from where i try it.
I get 24 to 48 hrs out of my Battery.

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Hi,
I am using TP in Delhi through Vodafone since last month. And I am using original ROM/Radio till now -
ROM : 1.95.720.2 WWE
Date : 10/21/08
Radio : 1.02.25.28
I dont feel battery is that horrible as you explained... I browse internet extensively, and do spend atleast an hour talking on phone.... But by the end of the day battery remains till 30-40%... which I think is good. If I dont use wifi, its even better.
Also wifi works like a charm for me... i am able to see a complete 7 mins. youtube video or download something/read news without any connectivity break....
However, I have not been able to successfully listen to local FM till now. Has anybody got that solved (in india).
Thanks
MS

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Hey MS...
Did you get a TP from out of country or did you get one of the Idea Cellular branded models?
BTW - Radio has worked for me no problem in bangalore...plug in the headset and it finds several stations...pretty good reception as well.
---Rob

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Hi Rob,
I bought it in Noida only. And I dont think it is that idea branded model (how do I find out that ?)....
Only thing is that I didnt flash any ROM on this yet... just believed on the existing ROMs, used many tweaks listed in this forum... And it is running pretty good.
I couldnt get my FM radio working till yet... It is just unable to find any radio station, while there are many (ofcourse with headset plugged it). Dont know what could be the reason.
- MS

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Hey Tazzix,
Here are a couple pics my friend with a BB Bold took at lunch - sorry they're blurry. The amazing onion dosa must have gotten us crazy ; >
External 7276.jpg is clear enough to see the std TP (not FUZE) style keyboard and no FF camera.
Internal 7276.jpg shows under the battery.
SN: HT845L00063
PN: 99HEY088-00
Just to the side of where the MicroSD slot is
Date 080608
Rev B01
Screen 2.jpg is the Device Info HW screen
Screen 3.is the about screen
I'm willing to screen capture or dump any part of my reg people would find helpful in troubleshooting this with me.
BTW - I purged EnergyRom 2.0 31809 this morning ... I love the UI but battery life when to S**T - which is weird, because I'd assume there is nothing in his ROM which would cause this kind of problem. Right now, I'm back on the latest official HTC ROM and battery life is back to 'dissapointing but acceptable'.
I wonder now...as I don't think the ENERGY series of ROMs comes with a radio if the rilphone.dll is correct for the 10.11.25.01 radio?.?.?.?
Anybody think I may have luck security unlocking the phone and load the blackstone radio? Many people rave about it.?.?.?.?
---Rob

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Weird, no RAPHnnn?!
Hi Rob,
I would have had paneer dosa instead but unfortunately no dosa place here in Islamabad
Its weird that there is no RAPHnnn e.g. RAPH110 (FUZE) there. Anyways, in my opinion radio plays a part in battery life. I tried to refrain from flashing, and specially radio although my device is Security Unlocked. But the battery did not last a whole day so I first flashed to 20M1 then .01 and now to 12.25.19 and found the last one to be the best, I get 2 days of normal usage. You can try different radios to see which one suites you best but I never tried a radio from another device.
As far as the ROM OS goes it depends on your usage, I hate the 6.5 chrome UI. Always used M2D or full manila on older devices too, but the new manila is simply awesome in my view. I want to see minimum of the Windows UI, except when using Word, Excel, PP, or other business apps. So the new manila keeps me in stylus-free interface similar to the main screen, and the Energy ROMs are really stable, fast and NRGZ28 is constantly fixing any thing he can find.
Look at the different screenshots and give the ROMs a try, you find to your liking.
More on the battery, I ordered a 2000 mAh battery from seidoonline.com because I want two days of heavy usage like I get from my Nokia E90.
All the best.

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When I bought mine the box it came in had a BIG yellow Idea Cellular label on it, and the carrier boot screen also comes up with the big yellow Idea logo.
With my radio I get about 8 stations reliably.
BTW - UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE
About 2 hours ago I flashed the new HTC Asian WWE and guess what ... battery life is fine, wifi is connecting at 54mbps & GPS works. I about fell over when I was walking around and saw the lock happen.
For what it's worth, this ROM has fixed all my problems ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494603
I would love to know what is so wildly different about this ROM ... there has got to be something...the default ROM was awful the official HTC ROM from a couple weeks ago was only 'ok'.

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Absolutely Rock Solid
I've been on the new HTC Asian WWE ROM w 10.11.25.01 radio for about 4 hours now and this things kicks @$$. I've done a 30 min call, while using GPS for my drive home and have gotten several SMS messages ... and battery has only barely dropped.
For the moment, I'm not gonna be flashing anything...which is a bummer as I was absolutely loving the newest Energy ROM.
Well, I take that back, I will probably flash the newest radio in a couple days to see if things get even better...but I'm gonna spend a couple days enjoying my new toy 1st (need to burn off the karma of having sworn profusely at it for the last 7 or 8 days).
BTW Tazzix - yeah, I love paneer, but I got wiped out with food poisoning on wednesday having paneer masala ... was in the mood for something a little more simple today.

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crlowryjr said:
I've been on the new HTC Asian WWE ROM w 10.11.25.01 radio for about 4 hours now and this things kicks @$$. I've done a 30 min call, while using GPS for my drive home and have gotten several SMS messages ... and battery has only barely dropped.
For the moment, I'm not gonna be flashing anything...which is a bummer as I was absolutely loving the newest Energy ROM.
Well, I take that back, I will probably flash the newest radio in a couple days to see if things get even better...but I'm gonna spend a couple days enjoying my new toy 1st (need to burn off the karma of having sworn profusely at it for the last 7 or 8 days).
BTW Tazzix - yeah, I love paneer, but I got wiped out with food poisoning on wednesday having paneer masala ... was in the mood for something a little more simple today.
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Nice to hear from you ROB.... basically its based on asian customers which might differ from other countries you are getting best results....Myself tried the ROM & it's work fine so thinking of making ROM out of this base (With sahzad may be) with out much tweaking ....only stripping unwanted things & program me folder well organized easy access to often used application. By the way may i know which part of bangalore you reside in.....
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out of this which one you are using
Asia-English
ROM version: 5.07.707.2
Radio version: 1.11.25.01
HK-English
ROM version: 5.07.831.2
Radio version: 1.11.25.01
SinTel-English
ROM version: 5.07.871.2
Radio version: 1.11.25.01
If it is ROM version: 5.07.707.2 could you give me the s/n used to download it

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crlowryjr said:
I've been on the new HTC Asian WWE ROM w 10.11.25.01 radio for about 4 hours now and this things kicks @$$. I've done a 30 min call, while using GPS for my drive home and have gotten several SMS messages ... and battery has only barely dropped.
For the moment, I'm not gonna be flashing anything...which is a bummer as I was absolutely loving the newest Energy ROM.
Well, I take that back, I will probably flash the newest radio in a couple days to see if things get even better...but I'm gonna spend a couple days enjoying my new toy 1st (need to burn off the karma of having sworn profusely at it for the last 7 or 8 days).
BTW Tazzix - yeah, I love paneer, but I got wiped out with food poisoning on wednesday having paneer masala ... was in the mood for something a little more simple today.
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Congrats, its nice to hear that you are happy now with this amazing device. And the choice of ROMs is one thing which I like about WM thanks to great chefs around here at XDA-dev.

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it is 5.07.707.2 WWE ... I got it off a mirror from the original thread (my SN didn't work either).

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I have a TP T7276 with Qualcomm 7206A (Idea). Anyone successfully updated this with a custom rom like EnergyRom Phoenix2?
My phone does not have the front facing camera or 3G (don't think the hardware support 3G).
The radio I have 1.13.25.24 is fine so I am only after Windows Mobile 6.5 and a newer Manila.

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Henke001 said:
I have a TP T7276 with Qualcomm 7206A (Idea). Anyone successfully updated this with a custom rom like EnergyRom Phoenix2?
My phone does not have the front facing camera or 3G (don't think the hardware support 3G).
The radio I have 1.13.25.24 is fine so I am only after Windows Mobile 6.5 and a newer Manila.
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Hi, Henke001,
I also have same TP with vodafone in Delhi. And I could successfully update my phone with custom roms EnergyRom Phoenix2/Leo.
The phone do have 3G, though the service provider doesnt provide the support for it. I have no idea about front camera, does anyone has any idea on how do I check about this one.
Thanks

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Henke001 said:
I have a TP T7276 with Qualcomm 7206A (Idea). Anyone successfully updated this with a custom rom like EnergyRom Phoenix2?
My phone does not have the front facing camera or 3G (don't think the hardware support 3G).
The radio I have 1.13.25.24 is fine so I am only after Windows Mobile 6.5 and a newer Manila.
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Hi, Henke001,
I also have same TP with vodafone in Delhi. And I could successfully update my phone with custom roms EnergyRom Phoenix2/Leo.
The phone do have 3G, though the service provider doesnt provide the support for it. I have no idea about front camera, does anyone has any idea on how do I check about this one.
Thanks