[Idea]Transparent a.k.a glass borders and scrollers n drop down menu!! - P3400 ROM Development

hey first of all thanks to all the experts for giving us wm6.5 for Gene.
My idea :
To actually have all the menus, scrollbar, default program backgrounds,the dropdown menu(the 1 on which we click when in File-explorer to jump from My Device to Storage Card),the Contacts Background,the Messaging Background..etc.
All of them transparent like Glass..This is just a Personal thought as in to change the feel n look of the OS.
WM6.5 all ready has titanium with the kind of glass panels m talking about.
Due to which it enhances the Wallpaper used i mean u can use almost any wallpaper.
And about the Visibility issue which will occur in almost everyone's mind after reading this post i think we can make it translucent the same way it becomes in wm 6.5 when we click on start menu..the icons r very much visible even with a completely white background.
So i think the backgrounds in the programs like file-explorer,windows media player-library,my pictures,SMS,Contacts etc. can be made the same.
I Wish some expert graphic designers and Programmers make my imagination come true and give all us Windows users a completely new interface.
I think for this .pngs & .jpgs of the system will have to be altered or replaced with the new ones and program them accordingly.
I am not at all good at programming and neither Graphics and i dont even know whether my idea can actually be implemented or no?

Actually this idea must be shared from themes section.

hey i dont know i had put the same post in Development and hacking section now the post has disappeared suddenly..:-(

sure yaar...im waiting for the same thing?

i don know no1 from the developement section has replied to my post...i got the inspiration from wm 6.5 titanium which is packed in the new wm6.5 ROM..so if this can be made possible then we will have a great UI much much bettr than an Iphone also..coz there r N number of things which a WindowsMobile can do but an Iphone cant.
The only plus for an Iphone is its Screen which has now been compited by Touch HD and the GUI which we can improve if my idea can be implemented.
I myself m tryin2 learn programming and designing..but that will take double the efforts and time experts would take2 implement.

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Athena T Moble Pure OG WM6 ROM its GREATT

Hey check it out man
this rom rocks
it has vga resolution for text
and qvga resolution for icons
heres the link
http://rapidshare.com/files/75370255/RUU_Athena_TMO_UK_2.35.110.4_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe
enjoy
How about posting some screens for various applications?
right away sir
Thanks for posting the screens.
I guess it's a personal thing, but I prefer to view the device in 128dpi, with wktask, with a 3D glassy top and bottom bar, with both date and time on the taskbar of every screen, just to list some of the main things I would tailor.
Hey, whatever appeal to you, enjoy your device
U can always customize the view and 128dpi can be installed
i'm confused with your screenshots.
are simply qvga, non?
nittin_sp said:
Hey check it out man
this rom rocks
it has vga resolution for text
and qvga resolution for icons
heres the link
http://rapidshare.com/files/75370255/RUU_Athena_TMO_UK_2.35.110.4_1.50.00.00_Ship.exe
enjoy
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maybe means vga screen res but qvga is being displayed but that is a given.?
hmm tmobile did a nice edit there. still hate the pink though
Pawel062 said:
hmm tmobile did a nice edit there. still hate the pink though
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I love changing the color of my theme every now and then. One of the quickest ways of to use tweaks2k2. It gives you the 3d glassy look. Depending on my mood, I like to switch between blue, green, black, etc. Be very careful though when you use tweak2k2. Don't let it trigger any soft reset(always use stylus into the hole method) or else you may be stuck on primary splash and you'll be forced to hard reset.
thanx for the info and warning. i do too. currently running 192dpi, snapvue, and snavue tsk on my rom. will probably go back to setup u see in dual screenies when i get realvga cooked back into rom im currently running.
Does this rom contain the latest Opera? That's the only reason I see to upgrade to this. Font size looks like it does when you change the screen settings to a smaller font on the 'screen' menu. I assume you can change the pink theme with the windows standard.
some clarrification
the opera version is build 8.65(2627)
the rom is overall very fast
the text resolution is vga like and we can get rid of the cuteiii pink colour.
the ap3 dual rom is superior in many aspects but this rom is good for all those who want a clean rom without any addons.
hey powell can u please post a lite addition of your touch dual rom it would be great
perhaps I also forgot to mention that this rom solves the micro drive issue in ameo.
Powell can u please give add ons seperately.
Leoni,
Why not try out this Opera and see if you like it better?
eaglesteve said:
Leoni,
Why not try out this Opera and see if you like it better?
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Ok, ive begun testing this ROM Eaglesteve and here are my observations thus far:
Opera is identical to the others, although a nice resolution mod has been done with the url bar, making it smaller and neater than the versions seen in other ROMS. there is no immediate reference to 'opera' within the application in that it is referred to as 'web n walk' in the start menu, and the homepage is www.t-mobilefavourites.co.uk. for those wishing to use t-mobile's tv service this functionality is now restored for wm6.
on the whole i feel that the download and render time with this version of Opera is the slowest i've seen. there is no flash support and this is NOT the latest Opera build (or anywhere near). this indicates that HTC have a limited deal with Opera which does not include the more recent version - no free upgrade then.
I found both browsers to be unusually slow, even after various tweaks.
T-mobile have removed Windows Live from this ROM.
They have included (the completely pointless) F-Secure Antivirus, which annoyingly pops up an installation window upon every soft reset.
The 'H'SDPA icon is not enables by default for some unknown reason. this is surely a step backwards from the old T-Mobile ROM.
t-mobile sounds are preset by default. they are horrendous.
some of the 'band' settings have been removed in line with what's available in western europe.
dialpad is a modified pink|grey, as is the comms screen.
there is a t-mobile home plugin similar to htc's, but with 'web n walk' last dialled, file explorer and SIM manager.
this ROM seems more sluggish than touch dual overall, and is missing a great deal of decent features that id gotten used to with Touch.
will try a hard reset with no installed t-mobile CABs and report back
Thanks for the quick feedback.
You mentioned that the address bar is smaller. This is interesting. Could you post a screen shot on that?
eaglesteve said:
Thanks for the quick feedback.
You mentioned that the address bar is smaller. This is interesting. Could you post a screen shot on that?
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sorry eaglesteve i dont have the screenshot utility that comes with touch, otherwise id send you a screenshot.
update though: this ROM is an absolute dog. it's slooooow, web pages dont load up very fast and for the first time in ages im getting the "this page cannot be found" dialogue in p.i.e. on random occasions. ive also had opera randomly shut down on me twice.
can someone else try this ROM and tell me im not mistaken? the only apps ive installed are wktask, fingertouch and htc home
so far i can't believe t-mobile have unleashed a pile of crap like this on the public. its bad enough that they make their handsets look so rubbish.
one last set of points to t-mobile:
we DONT need antivirus. really.
we DONT need to be asked if we're sure we want to go online/sure we want to close the browser.
we dont like pink today screens and phones with pink bits on them
we DO want you to employ Pawel and the team to develop decent ROMs in future.
Is this ROM the standard WM6 ROM provided by T Mobile to work on the Ameo? The quality is very different from those provided by Dopod.
Just switched back to the Touch Dual ROM.
I encourage anyone Interested in it to avoid this ROM at all costs except for warranty purposes. Glitchy, slow, overbranded, RUBBISH.
YUK.
leoni1980 said:
Just switched back to the Touch Dual ROM.
I encourage anyone Interested in it to avoid this ROM at all costs except for warranty purposes. Glitchy, slow, overbranded, RUBBISH.
YUK.
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lol nice.
to the poster asking about vanilla: i could remove everything except pk programs 3.0(task manager+regedit and screenshot app) and leave in tsk, welcomhead, and all the reg edits i have done BUT the available space on the device with or without dual will remain the same.
its not worth it.
use file explorer and go into windows/start menu/programs and removed whatever u dont use. it will clean up the program's folder and u can go ahead and do same with system folder.
it will look clean that way and if u decide u want to use a app that i cooked in you just add shorcut back in. also for battery/qwerty menu just go ahead and remove the shortcuts for those from windows/startup and those are gone.
switch to a different tsk like says windows mobile default and u look vanilla. for say the control panel apps just ignore or remove from windows folder.
Ur rom looks vanilla and it will have same space as a vanilla rom. also u can go ahead after the black tsk is displayed and soft reset device to not install extended rom stuff and reduce apps installed.
@leoni
T Mobile has put its customisations, so if u check opera, the proxy is enabled.
If u remove the proxy all work well.
Results are better, when one flashes only OS.nb converted to NBH and use, so u do not have any T Mobile Crap installed

Themes and TF3D, the hurdles

I've been around the TP forum since almost day one and I am also watching closely the Diamond one. My question (and I put it in the ROM development area for a reason) is as follows:
Why is it so difficult to change themes in TF3D manila?
It is difficult and with issues most of the time and many flaws occure when using any of the programs available by pretty capable guys around here (eg. diamond config, manila customiser, cabs etc.)
Please don't get me wrong, these programs DO WORK, but WITH FLAWS. I tried many themes and ways and I find problems most of the time. One problem for example would be speed in people tab, in NATF 1.1 ROM, att people tab is as fast as hell, but try to change the theme and you will get the shock of your life in the time it takes to open that tab. The same (even worse) would be said for RomeOs 1.40.
Why can't we just do: start>settings>today>themes and choose the theme (which should be there by the way but never is) >items>tf3d only
I know that the themes tab is for the whole interface of windows, but why is there no link between themes and tf3d, a real and correlative link i.e. one would change the other?
Sorry for the long story but would any one be interested to discuss that??
- i dont quiet understand what the issue you seem to comming across using the TF3D Customizer, if u could be a bit more specific i could possibly help..
BUT from the jump i did notice that..it was made known not to use on the 1.93 rom, is that an issue here?
i flashed NATF's rom and all seems to be working just fine. Themes take about 1-2 mins to fully load..then i get the soft reset prompt and BAM..new theme loaded
- honestly..i think using manilla on these devices which are TF3D .. makes no sense, i could be 100% wrong..but it seems like a step backwards.
i was involved with the release of TF2D and i can honestly say TF3D is better..and no not the throttle launcher version either..no knock there..just doesnt compete with the real thing.
The thing is, whenever you temper with the original (ROM TF3D) in any way, and that I noticed in all my instances and in all the roms I used, you always get a different, primary lousier responce in the performance.
about 1.93, no that was not the issue.
Correct me if I'm wrong in these:
1- tf3d is a user interface created by htc to be used on wm6.1 touch flow devices
2- this created 2 kinds of themes:
a- windows theme for the original interface
b- tf3d themes only
3- link between the 2 does not exist, or is to be made manually i.e. change wm theme & tf3d theme
4- when you change tf3d theme you almost always fall into flaws (and not to mention trying to add tabs which is another story altogether), interface flaws and performance flaws
5- no theme exists that combine both worlds in one and that you can use from the normal windows themes tab in settings (except the original shipped one in the rom of course)
1. correct.. pretty obvious there
2a. this 2nd theme u speak of.. the .tsk file, is a simple layout..like a "background so to speak, to add a bit of flare to plain. if u opted out in using TF and and just went with the today screen add-on's.
2b. well if its TF3D then i would presume u would make themes that are TF3D compat. ? call me crazy lol
3. if you want to be technical, there is a link..when u access ur start menu..while in TF3D..ur accessing theme 1 and 2. hence a link being created.
4. on an ORIGINAL STOCK ROM..of course your going to run into issues. Its made by service providers to do just that provide service, not get ur optimal performance..hence why apps such as Kaiser Tweaks, and Advance Config were created..to get that optimal performance.
on another persons created rom..the issues u generally run into will be short lived, considering they too..are tryin to edit out the bugs that u would normally run into.
once again..i really dont know where or how ur running into that TF3D theme issue..i just cycled thru 5 diffrent themes, with no issues to report.
5. u lost me
just a fast Q; Where to place the .theme files?
steps plz for the noobie.
- And do i have to use Diamond TF3D Config, or just from the setting?
Thnx!
JstarLuvsTina said:
1. correct.. pretty obvious there
2a. this 2nd theme u speak of.. the .tsk file, is a simple layout..like a "background so to speak, to add a bit of flare to plain. if u opted out in using TF and and just went with the today screen add-on's.
2b. well if its TF3D then i would presume u would make themes that are TF3D compat. ? call me crazy lol
3. if you want to be technical, there is a link..when u access ur start menu..while in TF3D..ur accessing theme 1 and 2. hence a link being created.
4. on an ORIGINAL STOCK ROM..of course your going to run into issues. Its made by service providers to do just that provide service, not get ur optimal performance..hence why apps such as Kaiser Tweaks, and Advance Config were created..to get that optimal performance.
on another persons created rom..the issues u generally run into will be short lived, considering they too..are tryin to edit out the bugs that u would normally run into.
once again..i really dont know where or how ur running into that TF3D theme issue..i just cycled thru 5 diffrent themes, with no issues to report.
5. u lost me
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@JStar:
Have you found any flip clocks that work?
One other issue I'm waiting to see figured out is the background image changing on all TF3D tabs, not just the home tab. There has been some progress on the Diamond forum, but I understand there are still issues there..
k9tim said:
@JStar:
Have you found any flip clocks that work?
One other issue I'm waiting to see figured out is the background image changing on all TF3D tabs, not just the home tab. There has been some progress on the Diamond forum, but I understand there are still issues there..
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This is already working with no problems......go over to PPCGeeks and there are threads on it and how to....I would link you but I cannot remember the exact thread....
Thanks for the heads up, I'll bounce over there and check it out!
really dont have to go so far.. theres a few themes here that have flip clocks ive found on here already..
check out these links..
1. The Diamond Theme And Etc Forum - http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=441
2. TF3D Clocks ( in that forum ) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420887
good luck!
Yeah been thru those posts quite a bit. Tried a cpl themes that looked great but the flip clocks never told the time. They just sat on "000".
The slider icons and stuff worked great though
any news yet..for u
i was just browsing thru and theres been a few reports in those threads about working flip clocks.
I still believe that this tf3d themes issue is not purely resolved by the developers. I'm trying to have a smooth theme transition (i.e. change from theme to another) but am failing most of the time. Each and every (and I mean it) theme has at least one flaw that render the theme lame, sometime in the interface and some time in the performance. Am I the only alien around here???? Do I really miss something????
karimartine said:
I still believe that this tf3d themes issue is not purely resolved by the developers. I'm trying to have a smooth theme transition (i.e. change from theme to another) but am failing most of the time. Each and every (and I mean it) theme has at least one flaw that render the theme lame, sometime in the interface and some time in the performance. Am I the only alien around here???? Do I really miss something????
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i think u may be missing a step. ill try to help u get things right!!
what rom are u running?
what are u using to switch themes?
what are u using for your tweaks on your device?
JstarLuvsTina said:
i think u may be missing a step. ill try to help u get things right!!
what rom are u running?
what are u using to switch themes?
what are u using for your tweaks on your device?
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rom... u name it cause i tried them all (literally)
using manilla editor & tf3d diamond config
for that advanced config 3.3
ok so start from skratch..reflash the original rom, then go from there.
-use the hardspl provided in this forum.
-then flash NATF's rom ( i use that one with no issues to report..may be flashing again tonight tho, if that TIR ROM is ready. )
after your flash of the ROM HARD RESET, i know ur probably thinkin i know all this..but alot of the times ppl skip that step and it helps..trust it does!
-install NET CF 3.5
-install Diamond Tweak
-install Diamond TF3D Config
u dont need advanced config if ur using Diamond Tweak.
then we'll get a theme and go from there.

What are you using to edit

i Am sorry i am new to this forum and a little naive but what program are you people using to change the HTC pro cause i have the At&t fuze and i wish to change the backgroundpic the color of style bars and the buttons on the main screen that lead to favorites and other apps if someone could tell me this program that would be great
or if its not a program at least tell me the main files i need to replace
this is a very odd question.
you can change the themes ( Search "TouchFlo 3d Themes")
or
You can change the Rom (Check out the main in this forum section)
or
You can make your own roms from dumped roms.(info found here)
hope this helps, and hopeful you are ambitious, knowledgable and patient enough to start cooking it's always nice to seem more developers/chefs.

[RES]Default Keyboard Skins - VGA - msim.192.dll.0409.mui[RES]

I prefer using the default Windows Mobile soft keyboard, but I can't stand the ugly Windows Mobile 5.0 color scheme that Microsoft still uses by default.
Attached to this e-mail are all of the keyboard skins that I could find on the Internet. They have been scaled to VGA (192 dpi) and included in the msim.192.dll.0409.mui resource file for cooking into your ROM.
I'm afraid I didn't keep track of the original authors, so props go out to all those folks who created the originals.
These will only work for 0409 (English International). The mui is a resource replacement file for the original msim.192.dll. Simply include the file in your ROM (\Windows) and the new resources will be used in place of the original. Feel free to drop them into \Windows before cooking to see how they look.
Simply rename the included file to msim.192.dll.0409.mui (example: change msim.192.dll.0409.BasicBlack.mui to msim.192.dll.0409.mui).
If anybody has any more they want to include, feel free to add to this thread.
Note: there are actually 25 skins in the ZIP, but I couldn't add snapshots for all 25 to this post. I have attached another ZIP containing the original source files if you want to see them before copying them to your phone.
I guess I'll be the first to say thanks. Did you say something about dialers too? Like to skin the new Microsoft dialer?
jmckeejr said:
I guess I'll be the first to say thanks. Did you say something about dialers too? Like to skin the new Microsoft dialer?
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Microsoft has new dialer? Sound interesting
I really love this skin, if i'm not mistaken, it came from buzzdev dot net but I cant find 192(VGA/hires) resource. Any info pls..
monx® said:
I really love this skin, if i'm not mistaken, it came from buzzdev dot net but I cant find 192(VGA/hires) resource. Any info pls..
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That looks like OSXGraphite, which is included in my archive above. I actually made up a hybriid of graphite that keeps the dark grey special keys with lighter colored letter keys. I think I called it GraphiteAlt. It's included as well.
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I guess I'll be the first to say thanks. Did you say something about dialers too? Like to skin the new Microsoft dialer?
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I have a couple of skins for the default dialer that I will post soon. I only changed the colors not the layout.
trueg said:
That looks like OSXGraphite, which is included in my archive above. I actually made up a hybriid of graphite that keeps the dark grey special keys with lighter colored letter keys. I think I called it GraphiteAlt. It's included as well.
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it almost look alike GraphiteAlt/OSXGraphite but it isnt. the buttons are sunken (curve) a bit. But thanks for ur collection. I will use GraphiteAlt atm
I think your talkin about "3d" keyboard skin. I think its called that. I think I have it somewhere among all my files, but is for QVGA
You know what would be really awesome, is if someone would skin the Full Qwerty keyboard to resemble the TP2 one. I started doing someting with it, but got busy all of a sudden
By the way, don;t want to flame or anything, but this thread might be better in Development & Hacking or Raphael Software/Themes. Good job on the skins. I'm gonna use the graphite I think, even though I have never even used the small keyboard. Nice to know its there.
Id like to have a new layout for the WM dialer. That would be really nice.
monx® said:
I really love this skin, if i'm not mistaken, it came from buzzdev dot net but I cant find 192(VGA/hires) resource. Any info pls..
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OK, ya, it's not the same. I was looking at it on my phone and on the small screen it looked the same. If you have the original BMP I can see how well it scales to VGA and add it to the thread.
@trueg
well thanks, attached is the original BMP QVGA resource.
monx® said:
@trueg
well thanks, attached is the original BMP QVGA resource.
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This one didn't scale very well. The text was not very sharp to begin with. You can give it a try though.
Thanks for the skins trueg. I prefer to only use wm onscreen keyboard because it offers better processes for word suggestion.
I've been trying to cook the stock US diamond WM soft keyboard into my fuze becuz I like the layout much better, and the keys are a little bigger, but for some reason i still end up with the fuze wm soft keyboard. Can anyone assist or provide correct files to do this?? Much appreciated thx!
redbandana said:
Thanks for the skins trueg. I prefer to only use wm onscreen keyboard because it offers better processes for word suggestion.
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Ya, I try to eliminate as many 3rd party apps as I can. Since I have a real keyboard (Touch Pro), I can't say I use the soft keyboard much at all, so keeping the stock WM soft keyboard is ideal for me (less memory). I wanted to change the colors though, because when I do use it, I didn't like the ugly WM 5.0 blue/green of the original.
princeasi said:
I've been trying to cook the stock US diamond WM soft keyboard into my fuze becuz I like the layout much better, and the keys are a little bigger, but for some reason i still end up with the fuze wm soft keyboard. Can anyone assist or provide correct files to do this?? Much appreciated thx!
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Sorry, I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to do. Either way, we should try and keep this thread on topic. I will PM you and see if I can help you further.
trueg said:
This one didn't scale very well. The text was not very sharp to begin with. You can give it a try though.
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Thanks trueg.
Edit the files
Hi, i am looking for a way to edit these files ( to make em look prettier ) but even after thourough searching i cannot really find a way to do so. perhaps someone can help me out. or at least give me a bump in the right direction. I found the skins from post one realy nice but they seem to be meant for older divices as the letters on the keyboards arent't really sharp and the general graphics a bit outdated.
THANK YOU!! i've been looking for these for fuze.. now i can complete my rom
Indeed, there hasn't been much effort in making new default keyboard skins. Most folks simply use 3rd party soft keyboards. Many of them were made 2 to 4 years ago. They are also scaled up from QVGA versions, so they are not as sharp as they could be.
I'm not much of a graphic designer, but I wanted to get a thread started so people with graphical abilities could contribute, although that hasn't really happened.
All of the resource files are simply bitmaps (BMP) so they can be created or edited with pretty much any graphics program (I like GIMP). Simply grab a copy of Resource Hacker http://www.angusj.com/resourcehacker/, download one of the mui files, extract the bmp, edit it until your hearts content and then replace the original resource with your new one.

Changing Resources in 4.0.4

Hi & 1st off if this is stupid please dont take the piss to badly lol...
years ago i was well into the whole Windows thing, Stripping its resources & making batch files that would find & replace icons that were of a better quality.. They would then be injected into the resource files of the OS so when it was installed it looked nicer...
Now to my idea...
Ive seen lots of nice Themes out there for my phone but dont seem to like any of the theme managers & how they change the feel of the phone & was wondering if its possible to strip the icons (.png ) from these & create an APK that just over writes them directly to the phones installed files..
An example would be the awesome Blue Theme for one of the custom roms you can get.... just having the png files on there own installed without the theme itself..?
Sorry if this is stupid as im only thinking from a windows point of view & dont no really if its possible or even an idea for android..
War3zuk said:
Hi & 1st off if this is stupid please dont take the piss to badly lol...
years ago i was well into the whole Windows thing, Stripping its resources & making batch files that would find & replace icons that were of a better quality.. They would then be injected into the resource files of the OS so when it was installed it looked nicer...
Now to my idea...
Ive seen lots of nice Themes out there for my phone but dont seem to like any of the theme managers & how they change the feel of the phone & was wondering if its possible to strip the icons (.png ) from these & create an APK that just over writes them directly to the phones installed files..
An example would be the awesome Blue Theme for one of the custom roms you can get.... just having the png files on there own installed without the theme itself..?
Sorry if this is stupid as im only thinking from a windows point of view & dont no really if its possible or even an idea for android..
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check the link below, it might be of some help to,also u can PM the OP of that post for any further clarification.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28793952&postcount=134
Wicked
Thats wicked thankyou.... Just what i was after really as I want to learn to do this myself.. Thankz again

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