Trying to go from sprint to telus - Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development

I just bought a sprint mogal to replace my burnt out p4000. I tried installing the telus cab, nut couldn't get it to connetect to telus (and I did change my settings in the ESPT using the new ESN numbers etc with my old telus defult settings that i wrote down... all of them) I was still getting the roaming probs. I tried *22803 as well as ##MSL# to no avail. So I figured maybe it would be best to down flash to stock telus Rom and radio and go from there. So I used titan relocker (to replace my nue SPL 2.47) and tried to flash the stock rom. Now I am getting a ERROR 294 invalid vender id.
Does this mean that I can't use this phone on telus? I just shelled out dollars thinking it would be no biggie to switch it over. Am I missing something?
Thanks for any help....
Surprisingly I am not freaking out yet, just enjoy another programing puzzle lol

You need a telus prl. Also you can't relock a sprint phone and install a Telus rom. The phone has to be unlocked to install the telus rom.

i have had a situation that does not shine much hope on your situation. i used to work for telus and was provided a diamond for testing purposes when they came out. it had a problem and our htc rep sent me a new one straight from taiwan. now heres the kicker -----it could not be activated untill the esn was entered into the system on the back end by telus, this took well over a week. this is far from a standard esn exchange. never in two years of working with telus have i been able to get the data network assistance guys to enter a non telus branded phone. the super tight back end activation will not allow it.
i really hope im wrong, and i hope someone will respond to this and make me look foolish, but they would not even accept ne bell pda's which r essentially the same phone minus the existence in the telus master database.
oh man i cannot wait till the tech switch next year so this will no longer be a problem.
as a last resort, i do have a p4000 i nolonger use as the call and end buttons no longer work, but all the touchscreen options make it still quite usable. if u would consider some sort of swap, i do not intend to exchange any $$$ of ne kind, i am open for suggestions. i just see no point of my old p4000 sitting around when it could be used

Alas krazycanuck82 you are correct. The kicker is that next year they told it this would no longer be a problem. I am waiting to receive an email from Telus tonight about what options they can give me on a new phone based on a sorta promise from me that if they can't give me a deal I will just buy out the last year of my contract and shop around. So we shall see. As for the Sprint phone. I will still be using it for other apps for the time being so am not to concerned on that front. Just a lesson learned to never assume LOL.

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can't go into bootloader mode, thanks to O2 cust. service.

hey all, my XDA II O2 is dead, i have a bit of a story to tell about it too. the poor thing won't boot up past the O2 spash screen.
i was initially selling my O2 around the traps as a working unit, then someone asked me to show them landscape view, and i didn't know how. i soon found out i needed to upgrade to 2003se or 2005. so on my homage to flashing my O2's ROM. i went and tried a 2005 and some random version radio stack hoping to upgrade two things at once, then, only one worked. my OS flash was fine, but my radio ROM didn't work at all. so basically i could get into WM2003, 2003SE, 2005 fine but couldnt use my simcard.
i've tried countless times to manually fix it aswell as using the official O2 ROM update off their site. then i went and sent it to O2 customer service or whatever it's called this year Razz. they charged me $45AUD for general service fee which included flashing the radio and OS roms up to the latest. then they ring me up one morning saying my poor O2 needs a new motherboard (somewhere between $350 - 450 i think). i asked why, they said because it wouldn't power on at all. so i tried turning it on, it didnt work all of a sudden, so to speak.
i still had to pay the $45aud and ended up without a working O2, at all.
i felt furious but helpless and tried not to have to pay the fee, but had to.
long story short, heh, i need to do something with my shell of a XDA II, either sell, sell parts, fix, find a special ROM flash that might fix it. i don't know, i've tried so hard and have gotten nowhere. so, guys, any insight in what i could/should do?? any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks! Shocked
OH OH OH also, on that note, i can't go into bootloader mode or any other mode at all, so i cant re-flash

They want to give me a Samsung i760

Hey all,
I recently dropped the ROM down to the stock. Then did SPL 2.4, upgraded to the Sprint .exe, then threw on the most recent radio 3.42.30 after 1.2 unlocker, and then went back to SPL 2.4 and ROM 3.2.2.
I haven't for the life of me been able to get Data Back. It continues to tell me that login/password are incorrect. That was on Radio 3.42.30/ROM 3.22
I even flashed it all the way back to the Stock Rom, then tried changing the login/pw which didn't work.
Then I read a comment by DCD that I would most likely need to call Verizon to have them check it out. They suggested reprogramming, then taking battery out and reinserting. Then same password/login problem. So i manually inserted the password. nothing. Then they suggested programming with option #2. Still same problem.
They asked if I wanted to get a refurb, which I thought cool. They told me they only had samsung i760's.
I've been furiously reading/searching for 2 days now. I'm suprised I can't get this fixed. Help would be greatly appreciated as I really like the phone and don't want to have to exchange it.
Thanks
scotcha12345 said:
Hey all,
I recently dropped the ROM down to the stock. Then did SPL 2.4, upgraded to the Sprint .exe, then threw on the most recent radio 3.42.30 after 1.2 unlocker, and then went back to SPL 2.4 and ROM 3.2.2.
I haven't for the life of me been able to get Data Back. It continues to tell me that login/password are incorrect. That was on Radio 3.42.30/ROM 3.22
I even flashed it all the way back to the Stock Rom, then tried changing the login/pw which didn't work.
Then I read a comment by DCD that I would most likely need to call Verizon to have them check it out. They suggested reprogramming, then taking battery out and reinserting. Then same password/login problem. So i manually inserted the password. nothing. Then they suggested programming with option #2. Still same problem.
They asked if I wanted to get a refurb, which I thought cool. They told me they only had samsung i760's.
I've been furiously reading/searching for 2 days now. I'm suprised I can't get this fixed. Help would be greatly appreciated as I really like the phone and don't want to have to exchange it.
Thanks
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Ask the rep to do a DMU reset. it resets your phones data settings. you need to do it if you relock on VZ phones.
Trying
So, the tech support guy decided not to do a DMU...apparently sending me a refurb is easier. They were able to find one in the system.
Other than flashing to Stock ROM/Radio, is there any other necessities to save my warrantee?
scotcha12345 said:
So, the tech support guy decided not to do a DMU...apparently sending me a refurb is easier. They were able to find one in the system.
Other than flashing to Stock ROM/Radio, is there any other necessities to save my warrantee?
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No, you should be fine with stock bootloader, radio and ROM.
A Reset is easy.. you just got an idiot on the phone.
I found that each time I reflashed the radio.. I have to do one of the following:
1) Call and have them reset my A key
2) Call and have them reset my data.
If you get the massage you arent authorized when you make a call.. you need the Akey reset.
If you get a Wrong password error while using data.. you need the Data Services Reset.
Every call goes the same way..
I tell them that I need my Data settings reset.. I tell them it happens each time I hard reset my device and I'm a software developer and often need to hard reset... This is routine call for me.
They ask me what the error is and then proceed to go through 20 minutes of troubleshooting making me put in passwords and taking out the battery.. I ask them if they could reset my data after each thing they try, and they say they don’t think that’s the issue... Finally after 20 or 30 minutes of this.. they ask me to hold.. they come back, ask me to try it and it works.. I ask them what they did... they say I figured I'd try resetting the data.. and act like they thought of it on their own and like I haven’t asked for that at least 8 times on the call.
That’s just how it goes... the important thing.. Be nice. Do the steps they ask you to, and eventually they will reset the data. If you act like a ****.. you won’t get anywhere. If they want to send you a replacement.. (and you don’t want it) tell them you'll try a few more hard resets and that you’ll call back if you really need one. They will be happy to let you go cause it's less paperwork for them. Call back a little while later and you'll get someone else who is more willing to do a data reset for you… don’t tell them you just spoke to someone else.
NEVER tell them you flashed custom software. Most of them wont care.. But they may flag it in your account.. it all depends who you get… but telling them that is never a positive thing.
(another helpful trick to avoid any resets.)
You must have another WM device thats not activated for this.
Go online.. Move your activation to another device.. Flash the radio.. move the activation back. This works and you dont need to reset Akey or Data.
You cant move service to a non WM device as it will remove the data service from your plan.
you can also (if you have an old vzw phone) quickly login to vzw online enter that esn number wait 5 minutes and then enter your device esn#. Some at ppcgeeks have success with this method though I'm not sure I never did it
This may be a dumb question, but I haven't seen it come up yet: did you try installing DCD's Verizon carrier cab? I just flashed to 3.2.2 last night, installed the carrier cab, everything was working, then I did some other unrelated stuff, and eventually decided to hard reset. Upon coming back from the reset, I was bummed to find that my data connection wasn't working. I figured that maybe the hard reset cleared out whatever magic the carrier cab does, so I reinstalled, and bingo, data connection was back in action. Hope that helps.
Verizon
So to start off, thanks for the help and comments. I was 100% confident that when I got the first "Login / password incorrect" message, I would be able to fix things.
Verizon decided that wouldn't be the case.
I spoke with probably 4 different people over the weekend to try to help. The first time it just was ridiculous, re-entering the same password/login OVER and OVER, despite me prefacing the conversation by saying I had already done it. The second lady wasn't quite sure what phone I had 10 minutes into troubleshooting, a few minutes later I decided I had to "go". The third guy was helpful, and I suggested the DMU reset after awhile, but he wouldn't do it. I told him to hold on the replacement, called back, went through the same procedure with another guy, suggested the DMU reset and again, they wouldn't do it. I have a replacement coming tomorrow, as they wanted to do it, and I figured a "new" case couldn't hurt?
If this happens again in the future, I'll certainly try the others suggested. Thanks for those.
I agree that you should never mention you custom flashed the ROM...even since day 1 when I got this phone 6 months ago, I knew not to do that thankfully.
And lastly, relating to the suggestion to install the DCD Carrier Cab. It was flashed to Stock, so I'm fairly certain that would be unnecessary. Thanks though.
When you suggested DMU reset, were you speaking with a CSR or Tech Support?
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I was speaking with Tech Support.
Though one of the ladies was for sure either 80 and clueless, or brand new.
The last guy I spoke with seemed very competent, but for some reason unwilling to do the DMU. He explained to me "Unless you recently received a refurb, or a new handset, there would be no reason to do a DMU reset." I didn't quite have an answer that wouldn't indicate that I had broken the warranty, so I decided against pursuing that any further.
In the past I've tried the "software developer" angle and that I often Hard reset which has helped with the A-Key, but the DMU seemed to be a different story.
He explained to me "Unless you recently received a refurb, or a new handset, there would be no reason to do a DMU reset." I didn't quite have an answer that wouldn't indicate that I had broken the warranty, so I decided against pursuing that any further.
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It's easy. If they give you that bull****, you tell them you just performed a hard reset and when it finished, your data didn't work. You tell them you're familiar with EPST so you checked your settings, and you noticed that the HA and AAA shared secret keys were blank, as well as your HDR AN AUTH Password and PPP Password keys were blank. You tell them that this is indication that a DMU reset needs to be performed. As long as you sound like you know what you're talking about and provide this information, they should do it.
Beautiful
Beautiful.
I'll actually give that a try now until I get my other phone.
By the way. Are there any negatives to getting a refurb? I've seen a few friends get refurb'd XV6800's and they always look great. Couple bumps and bruises on mine, so I figure what the hey.
domineus said:
you can also (if you have an old vzw phone) quickly login to vzw online enter that esn number wait 5 minutes and then enter your device esn#. Some at ppcgeeks have success with this method though I'm not sure I never did it
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This works.. it's the same thing I previously posted.. but like I said above, you must have a WM device. Essentially what you are doing is switching activation to your old phone, then reactivating your new phone. I suggest moving the activation before flashing but you may not need to.
If your old phone was not Windows Mobile.. I.E. A plain old LG flip phone.. You have to remove the data services to switch to it. Depending on your plan... You may not be able to add it back online... so you have to call customer service and it's a giant pain. Plus you'll get pro-rated for what you used until that point, then pro-rated for the remainder of the month when you add it back... and somehow all that math will = a bill thats $15 more.
If your old phone was a WM phone.... it's all good.. nice and simple.

HTC don't have Alltel rom anymore!!

anyone know what happened to the upgrade rom from HTC website?? its not hosted there anymore!
Alltel ROM
Found this link on PPCGeeks and it seems to work.
http://216.139.227.226/alltel/RUU_T...S_TITAN_03.37.20_Alltel_2.01_AM_PPST_Ship.exe
Alltel ROM
I currently have a ticket in with HTC to find out that exact question will post what they say when I get a response back.
I saw this addressed on HoFo. Rumor has it that another update is coming from HTC for Alltel this month. Not sure why they would pull the current one though.
answerman said:
I saw this addressed on HoFo. Rumor has it that another update is coming from HTC for Alltel this month. Not sure why they would pull the current one though.
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Well, I know that when I upgraded my friends phone with the stock rom from alltel the phone acted worst that with the original rom. It kept going on roming and the roming icon kept flashing. He had a big problem with it because he lives close to the mexican border and so he could not place his phone to home only. Imagine the roming chargers with international connections...
Hypeo said:
Well, I know that when I upgraded my friends phone with the stock rom from alltel the phone acted worst that with the original rom. It kept going on roming and the roming icon kept flashing. He had a big problem with it because he lives close to the mexican border and so he could not place his phone to home only. Imagine the roming chargers with international connections...
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That's actually a problem on alltel's side. That has happened to me alot while flashing my phone around. You would need to call alltel, and they would need to reset their link to the phone and reactivate it. It works for me...
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TheMorlince said:
That's actually a problem on alltel's side. That has happened to me alot while flashing my phone around. You would need to call alltel, and they would need to reset their link to the phone and reactivate it. It works for me...
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We did that already and it did not help. They just said that since there is not roaming charges that it was ok for him to be like that, but the problem is that he lives close to the mexican border and he roams internationally..
I talked to alltel support earlier this month and was told in no uncertain terms that a new official ROM is forthcoming. They pulled the old ROM because it had some critical bug that they did not disclose to me while I was on the phone.
I was told it would be a week or two before they had the new ROM tested and deployed.
yeah, that sounds like something I would keep an eye out for!!

Flashing from Qwest to Verizon..

I have a Qwest Mogul, and from what I can tell, it's the same model as the verizon mogul. My question is, can I flash it with the newest Verizon rom? Do I need to unlock it or do I just flash with the verizon rom and that's it? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
You might want to follow the instructions to go back to the Verizon stock ROM in the WiKi, then get it working on the Verizon network then you can put on Custom ROM/Radio ROMs. But before you do that I would call Verizon and make sure they will take that phone's ESN. Some of the carriers won't take other carrier's phones even though they are the same model.
Curious
Just curious to see if there was ever any outcome or more official info lately about whether the Qwest HTC PPC 6800 Mogul can be flashed to Verizon service.
I just picked up one of these for a great deal to replace my current VZW phone as it seems to think it is at the end of it's usable life and I don't want to re-contract for two more years just to get a new phone.
I have been in several forums and googled until the letters wore off my keyboard and I keep running into dead ends on this subject.
Figured I had better resurrect the threads and see if anyone ever got anywhere with this request.
trethacker said:
Just curious to see if there was ever any outcome or more official info lately about whether the Qwest HTC PPC 6800 Mogul can be flashed to Verizon service.
I just picked up one of these for a great deal to replace my current VZW phone as it seems to think it is at the end of it's usable life and I don't want to re-contract for two more years just to get a new phone.
I have been in several forums and googled until the letters wore off my keyboard and I keep running into dead ends on this subject.
Figured I had better resurrect the threads and see if anyone ever got anywhere with this request.
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If your motherboard is still good just put that into the Qwest Mogul, and off ya go. That is what I did when my digitizer cracked. I got one like new for $40 swapped the mobos and got a new phone with all of my original info (rom, esn... ect.) 8 baby screws and 2 beers is all it takes.
psychouni said:
If your motherboard is still good just put that into the Qwest Mogul, and off ya go. That is what I did when my digitizer cracked. I got one like new for $40 swapped the mobos and got a new phone with all of my original info (rom, esn... ect.) 8 baby screws and 2 beers is all it takes.
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But again does anyone know if the aristocracy at Verizon will allow another carriers phone on their network?
Qwest Mogul on VZW
cyberhern said:
But again does anyone know if the aristocracy at Verizon will allow another carriers phone on their network?
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I just spent 2 weeks last month to find out that VZW's new policy is to ban Qwest ESN's even if they were allready active on their nutwork.
I was grandfathered in with one of my Qwest 6800's, then I switched service to my 6900, and when I tried to go back it took 2 weeks and 3 level 3 techs to end up finding out that $55.oo an a new 2yr. renual (15mo. into old),
and I got a BNIB XV6800.
Now the TP in on sale for $99.99 with a 2yr., but a $70.00 mail in rebate, makes it 1/2 the price I just paid.
Oh well I don't think the TP is as solid as the TITAN...

Need help switching phones

Hi, i had unlocked and flashed dcd roms on my bell 6800, xept my phone got dropped in water and now the screen works but the touch feature doesnt, and neither does my camera. Bell is basically making me pay 120$ plus a whole month waiting time to get it fixed. I took it apart myself and was thinking i could replace parts that werent working since i could get a hold of a used sprint version (mogul or titan i guess) so i was wondering what steps i would have to take to make the sprint phone work on the bell network with my number and the bell network info if i chose to scrap the bell phone and use the used one?
Like i said if done the rom flashing before so i guess first step would be unlocking the used phone, then flashing it with the stock bell rom i guess?
I believe this can be done by cloning the ESN but I think that *might* be illegal and not an allowed topic on these boards but I could be wrong since I've never looked into it but have seen a couple threads kicking around on here about cloning ESN's.
wow well if its illegal i didnt expect it since all im doing is getting my phone to work again..its essentially the same phone xept different look :S...considering the 6800 is discontinued they wont even give me one of equal pricing, i was hoping on the touch pro but thats another 500$, i figure the 115 they want me to pay to fix wouldnt be worth it if i can get another one for the same price, it just happends to be from a different carrier
at most i can always replace the camera bit inside, camera says unable to initialize, as well as the touch screen...screen works but its not touch anymore

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