Which custom ROM for me? - Touch Pro, Fuze ROM Development

Im getting a bit fed-up with the stock ROM from HTC. Too much crap on it but what Im really sick about is that its quite unstable too. Im thinking of going for those kitchen ROM like Heroes or the like. My question is, what are the recommendations that would work on my local SingTel set. Some of my preferences are:
a) WM6.1 & TouchFlo, hopefully with all the fixes/patches.
b) Stripped of the stuffs I dont need like; Opera, GoogleMaps, YouTube...
Any recommendations?

treo927 said:
Im getting a bit fed-up with the stock ROM from HTC. Too much crap on it but what Im really sick about is that its quite unstable too. Im thinking of going for those kitchen ROM like Heroes or the like. My question is, what are the recommendations that would work on my local SingTel set. Some of my preferences are:
a) WM6.1 & TouchFlo, hopefully with all the fixes/patches.
b) Stripped of the stuffs I dont need like; Opera, GoogleMaps, YouTube...
Any recommendations?
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Maybe a Motorola Razr?
This post is kinda eh... well, the Raphael has so many capabilities, Opera, GoogleMaps/GPS are two of it's major attributes?!? I've not found a need for YouTube either but still...
If you're needing a simple no frills ROM, Da_G has one in the forum. Here, let me Google that for you:
Da_G Clean ROM

treo927 said:
Im getting a bit fed-up with the stock ROM from HTC. Too much crap on it but what Im really sick about is that its quite unstable too. Im thinking of going for those kitchen ROM like Heroes or the like. My question is, what are the recommendations that would work on my local SingTel set. Some of my preferences are:
a) WM6.1 & TouchFlo, hopefully with all the fixes/patches.
b) Stripped of the stuffs I dont need like; Opera, GoogleMaps, YouTube...
Any recommendations?
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I recommend cooking one yourself, with only the apps you want, and none of the ones you don't. hilaireg & Da_G (along with the creators if the kitchen, ervius & bepe) have made it quite easy to do so.
[KITCHEN][WWE][13.06.09]Windows Mobile 6.1 21051 Kitchen for Fuze/TouchPro [GSM]
or, if you prefer 6.5, the ever-build-changing kitchen for that is
[KITCHEN][MULTILANG][18.07.09]Windows Mobile 6.5 23007/21928 Kitchen for Raphael GSM
Trust me, it's not as difficult as it seems (unless you want to get REALLY into it - which is when the fun begins).

lavalamp said:
Maybe a Motorola Razr?
This post is kinda eh... well, the Raphael has so many capabilities, Opera, GoogleMaps/GPS are two of it's major attributes?!? I've not found a need for YouTube either but still...
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The thing with GoogleMaps that comes with HTC is that its installed to the ROM & overtime, it would take a lot of space on the Phone. I hate having to uninstall the current version only later to install it back again to Storage Card. Might as well get a ROM that comes without it. As for YouTube, the version that comes with HTC is old & furthermore, I cant uninstall it. Thats why Im looking for a ROM that is devoid of both so that I can get the latest and can specify th installation dir.

treo927 said:
The thing with GoogleMaps that comes with HTC is that its installed to the ROM & overtime, it would take a lot of space on the Phone. I hate having to uninstall the current version only later to install it back again to Storage Card. Might as well get a ROM that comes without it. As for YouTube, the version that comes with HTC is old & furthermore, I cant uninstall it. Thats why Im looking for a ROM that is devoid of both so that I can get the latest and can specify th installation dir.
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Reading Captain Throwback's post has got me considering cooking my own ROM.
The Raphael is a damn fine phone. I've never had an issue with memory or running out of storage but I don't keep too many 'media' type files on the device. In any regard, between Da_G's Plain ROM or cooking your own as the Captain has suggested, you will be heading in the right direction. I had my phone with the stock ROM long enough for the battery to charge then it was flashed. You'll be impressed no matter the direction you choose.
Have fun!

treo927 said:
Im getting a bit fed-up with the stock ROM from HTC. Too much crap on it but what Im really sick about is that its quite unstable too.
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Unstable? Latest HTC ROM (from february) is the most stable of all. You'll see what's the meaning of the term "unstable" when you try some of the cooked ROMs, especially 6.5. I've tried at least 5 different cooked ROMs, and after max few days I return to HTC official ROM, because of stability and usability.

treo927 said:
Im getting a bit fed-up with the stock ROM from HTC. Too much crap on it but what Im really sick about is that its quite unstable too. Im thinking of going for those kitchen ROM like Heroes or the like. My question is, what are the recommendations that would work on my local SingTel set. Some of my preferences are:
a) WM6.1 & TouchFlo, hopefully with all the fixes/patches.
b) Stripped of the stuffs I dont need like; Opera, GoogleMaps, YouTube...
Any recommendations?
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Well mine of course!!! Duh...like you even need to ask
(Sarcasm for those that can not detect it online)

treo927 said:
The thing with GoogleMaps that comes with HTC is that its installed to the ROM & overtime, it would take a lot of space on the Phone. I hate having to uninstall the current version only later to install it back again to Storage Card. Might as well get a ROM that comes without it. As for YouTube, the version that comes with HTC is old & furthermore, I cant uninstall it. Thats why Im looking for a ROM that is devoid of both so that I can get the latest and can specify th installation dir.
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From the sounds of it you have a large storage card right? Why then waste space for pictures/music etc on the storage card by then going and installing apps on it? The only thing that is used in my devices built in memory is programs, as it should be. Use the 300 MB on board memory to fill up with all the pointless apps you want and store all data on a memory card. Programs will run faster from on board memory, plus a lot of chefs "modularise" prgrams that are installed on the device and therefore they use the virtual memory a lot more efficiently.
I would liken the way I compartmentalise my phone as being an install on a computer:
"C:" Drive for main OS and programs
"D:" Drive for documents etc
This means that you change out the OS without losing all your data. If you then use things like UC when you install a ROM cooked by a chef on here, you can flash your device 10 times a day and each time within 10-15 minutes of flashing the ROM you will be fully up and running like you hadnt even changed the os!!
For example, I am a chef (a beginner in the grand scheme of things) but when I am cooking a new ROM I can flash my device as fast as I can cook a new ROM (Bughunting is a nightmare!) but EVERY time I flash, I have my activesync running, my personal IMAP email running, my WIFI access points for home and work set up, my GPRS settings set up and extra cabs installed and my Owner information imported, and all of that happens as I install the ROM. Only thing I have to manually do is sync the clock (only cos I cant be bothered to get that working automatically!)
As for youtube, most, if not all the ROMs cooked up here have the latest HTC youtube app installed (I wouldnt bother with the official youtube app as it has less functionality)
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At0mAng said:
Well mine of course!!! Duh...like you even need to ask
(Sarcasm for those that can not detect it online)
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This is the guy who first got me into cooking properly with his old 6.1 kitchen Cheers At0mAng!

Closing thread guys... Rom preference is all personal preference.. Please flash roms and see what fits you best
Peace,
Joshua

Related

Question: Official HTC vs. Cooked Roms

Hi, I wanted to know that after flashing Hard-SPL on my Hermes, can I simply download the official HTC Mobile 6.0 rom and flash it on my Hermes, or do I need to use some specific utility to flash that HTC Official Mobile 6.0 rom?
right now I care about good performance but I want all the features too and more official ones ( i'd prefer microsofts browser over opera, windows media player over some other audio player ), would I be happier with some cooked rom like VP3G's Windows Mobile 6 v2.0 ( i find this quite popular ) or would the HTC Official do fine? Sorry for asking rom preference if it is not approved over here, then my main question would be
whether you need some utility to install the official HTC Mobile 6 rom or you simply run the 54.3 MB HTC_TyTN_WWE_3.54.255.3_6275_1.48.00.10_108.exe and follow the onscreen instructions?
I think that to install the official rom you don't need to HARD-SPL flash it.
Only if you have a cooked ROM or a ROM that's not an original to your phone you need HARD-SPL (example If you want to install the original HTC-ROM on a Orange phone or something like that).
I prefer the Schap's ROM, this one is stable and works quite nice.
I've removed the original HTC ROM within a day because it was slow, crashed too much and it uses a crappy PDF reader (I prefer Adobe this one is faster than the one HTC uses).
Once you have HardSPL, you can flash all you want.
Seriously, I would load up one, run it for a day or two and then try another one. Yeah, it takes some rebuilding each time (to re-sync data and relaod other apps), but it gets to be pretty quick and it will be worth it to get the ROM you like the best.
I agree that the Original ROMs seem to be more bloated and slower and often (ironically) less stable.
I have tried MANY and have settled on the Black ROMs (currently X RC). Slueth's was also GREAT, and I understand that VP3G and Schaps are also awesome, but I have not tried their most recent ones. You really cannot go wrong once you get going.
hmmmmm, I have flashed a Nokia E70 before ofcourse the experience is totally different but I know the basic precautionary measures, however, I was wondering how much of a risk would it be to be flashing new roms every other day, by the way I forgot to mention that I have/going to get in a few days Cingular 8525, thats why HTC rom isn't original for me...
I like these custom rom's but I have one question, I love the dark green look I saw somewhere on an ebay page, are the custom rom's hardcoded to a specific theme or you can change themes ( i don;t even know if windows mobile has themes in the first place ), if I am over my themeing problems, then I guess i gotta choose the rom thats all...
I am in USA right now but going to Pakistan in two weeks, I see this radio upgrade 1.43.00.00, is it worth upgrading to it? My uses are GPRS, GSM, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and maybe Infrared too...
If someone has tried quite a lot of rom's maybe he/she can suggest me a good rom to switch to?
As much as a clean simple hermes user i wanted to be, I am getting more and more pulled towards modding my hermes and trying all sorts of stuff
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I have tried MANY and have settled on the Black ROMs (currently X RC). Slueth's was also GREAT, and I understand that VP3G and Schaps are also awesome, but I have not tried their most recent ones. You really cannot go wrong once you get going.
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Is this Black Rom that you are talking about listed on this page? http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sectionid=6&id=13&Itemid=26
TyTN best rom upgrade?
I own a TyTN with rom version:1.18.255.3, date:07/22/06, radio: 1.03.03.10, ExtRom: 1.18.255.106
Although every post is very helpful, I still feel confused about the "right" upgrade for my device.
I tried to download the latest version from HTC official web site, but I still wait for a registration confirmation from them (one week ago ) and I can't download anything.
I have to admit that my TyTN works perfectly at the moment.
But I still want the latest version
Can someone help me?
Go to THIS LINK and then flash like a madman! It is fun and pretty safe (as long as you do the HardSPL upgrade). We were all nervous once, but now I am sure that I have flashed my phone at least 100 times.
Thanks a lot I'll try it and come back for sharing.
Which version do you prefer? How about the WM6 Black Majik?
Sorry for asking again, but I couldn't be able to do that for ... 100 times
Schaps 3.54c (4MB or even better 6MB pagepool) if you want to have Greek customisation after the install.
TyTNic said:
Thanks a lot I'll try it and come back for sharing.
Which version do you prefer? How about the WM6 Black Majik?
Sorry for asking again, but I couldn't be able to do that for ... 100 times
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Majik is a bit old now. I prefer the latest Black X RC release. Haven't checked in a few days, that could be old too Black Satin is newer than Majik also.
lagoskon is right about Schaps - his ROMs are good, Sleuth has some good ones, VP3G is well respected... really, I am not sure you can go wrong. I would just pick one and give it a try and if you don't like it, try another one. Only the first couple are difficult/scary. Do put Olipro's HardSPL on there first though - will keep you safe.

Need help on which 6.5 ROM to use

Before you start flaming me, let me tell you in 2 words why im asking.
Dial Up
Yes, I have dial up and its not even 28.8 dial up either.. so i'm asking all of you who have tried some of these roms to help me pick which one to download.
I'm not really sure what i'm looking for, I have an AT&T Fuze, i did get 1 downloaded, it seemed ok and everything but seemed alittle slower then what im used to..maybe its just me as this is the first time i've ever tried to do anything like this.
I see alot of ones that say MANILA and NO MANILA, which is better?
Da_G's ultra clean, prob one of the smallest fastest ROMs. Mine would take forever to download!
BTW, No Manila means smaller
i just tryin each one out, and reading up on each. are you looking for stability? or a rom that has all the extra's
i just tried out:
[ROM][WWE]21815v2 |NEW!!!|Rhodium+Titanium|Opera9.7b1|The Cadillac of ROMs.by jmckeejr,
i like it alot, but the battery life wasnt where i wanted it to be. amazing rom though, wayy better than the stock one
im trying out this week:
|RAPH|6.5|ROM|WWE| ★ EnergyROM 3.0 'Phoenix' (21812) ★ || Build date 2009/6/12 || by NRGZ28
i will keep you posted.
also why not look at this site using the PDA version on it, and read ppls feed back on each. http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/f-440.html
and if were you, if you have a laptop, why not just go to starbucks or whatever coffee shop that has wifi, and just download every cooked ROM and install at home
ciscoelnino said:
and if were you, if you have a laptop, why not just go to starbucks or whatever coffee shop that has wifi, and just download every cooked ROM and install at home
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Thaks for the input, both of you... I dont have a laptop..
Im looking for stablity with a mix of "extras and preformance" I've done some reading on some and i have no idea what some of the extra progams do LOL
im used to charging my phone every other day as it is...
they dont have a rom out there that installs the "basics" and has an app to where you can download//install only the extras you want do they?
ohh forgot to add, no Manila means smaller... smaller in download size.. or smaller in impact on preformance?
sicwan said:
Thaks for the input, both of you... I dont have a laptop..
Im looking for stablity with a mix of "extras and preformance" I've done some reading on some and i have no idea what some of the extra progams do LOL
im used to charging my phone every other day as it is...
they dont have a rom out there that installs the "basics" and has an app to where you can download//install only the extras you want do they?
ohh forgot to add, no Manila means smaller... smaller in download size.. or smaller in impact on preformance?
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Smaller download size and slightly better performance since Titanium (the default WM6.5 Today Plugin) uses less resources than Manilla.
EnergyROM was good and stable for me, as well as RRE (although v6 seems to be a little slower than previous ones).
Da_G's clean ROMs are a good base, but you would have to download cab files for all the extras you want to install.
mindfrost82 said:
Smaller download size and slightly better performance since Titanium (the default WM6.5 Today Plugin) uses less resources than Manilla.
EnergyROM was good and stable for me, as well as RRE (although v6 seems to be a little slower than previous ones).
Da_G's clean ROMs are a good base, but you would have to download cab files for all the extras you want to install.
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Thanks!
ok, so i'll start downloading Da_G's and i'll look at the EnergyROM... Is there a post w/ cabs and what they do? or is that pretty much one of those "find it when you need it" things?
sicwan said:
Thanks!
ok, so i'll start downloading Da_G's and i'll look at the EnergyROM... Is there a post w/ cabs and what they do? or is that pretty much one of those "find it when you need it" things?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=525366
do i need to flash back to the stock/OEM rom before i flash another one?
For speed, stability and minimum size:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=526057
heres a question: do you have the data plan on your phone?
if you do, and you have already flashed your phone with a cooked rom, why dont you just teather it. Then you would have a connection that will kill any dialup connection, and allow you to download more, faster.
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heres a question: do you have the data plan on your phone?
if you do, and you have already flashed your phone with a cooked rom, why dont you just teather it. Then you would have a connection that will kill any dialup connection, and allow you to download more, faster.
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I do, but its only like 100mb a month. I only use it when there's bad weather/im lost.. LOL
RRE
I'm using an RRE 6.5 Rom. Pretty stable so far, i've been using it for about 2 months already. If you want a barebones rom, go for Da_G. if you want the simplest but has almost anything you need, go for RRE.
Goodluck!
Your phone has wifi go to a friends or somewhere and download to a memory card, if you don't have one you can get 1 or 2 gigabyte one dirt cheap. I know you can get RRE ROMs direct to phone. Be creative.
Thanks guys/gals for the help!!

comparisons between the 6.5 roms and dcd 4.1.2

I always want newer and better. Last week I upgraded from dcd's 3.2.6 to 4.1.2. Much faster, better memory, speedy gps locks, and no crashes yet.
I run a few commercial medical reference programs that are a major hassle to load and activate, so it is a pain to keep flashing my phone.
Can anyone comment between how well the 6.5's work vs. dcd 4.1.2
It's a very different animal.
First and foremost, the Today Screen has been completely redone in the default Titanium screen. I'm sure you've seen it around. You can still revert back to the old Today screen with a simple setting adjustment in the Settings Menu.
Secondly, nearly everything features finger friendly scrolling. It's built in with no real need for additional items such as FTouchFLO.
Third, the start menu has been redone to make it look more contemporary. Some people like it, some don't. You can adjust it to your liking by replacing various files.
Fourth, a programmer/PPC junkie going by no2chem introduced something in his 6.1 ROMs called nueKernel which is being implemented into nearly every 6.5 ROM. It allows you to enable or disable the camera temporarily to add more available RAM. Because of this, it's possible to have more free available RAM than you've most likely seen before on the Titan. For example, my ROM (and Ryan's, and most other current 6.5 ROMs) will boot with 25+ meg free.
Fifth, please note that those are most superficial UI adjustments. They are improving things under the hood, too, to make the OS better.
Your best way to compare is by flashing. If you like 6.5, stick with it. If you don't, there are plenty of fantastic 6.1 ROMs to choose from.
if its speed what you want then stay with dcd. no 6.5 has been able to come close to dcd.
on the other hand like btonetbone said a different animal and slower no matter the tweaking.
GeLopez said:
if its speed what you want then stay with dcd. no 6.5 has been able to come close to dcd.
on the other hand like btonetbone said a different animal and slower no matter the tweaking.
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I won't argue with this because I don't have benchmarks. DCD's ROMs are extremely fast; I used them all the up through 3.3.something and loved them.
But 6.5 isn't a hog, either. It runs very fast and snappy on my phone, and I have very little complaints regarding speed. Please don't take the above comments as saying the 6.5 ROMs are slow.
compared to dcd 6.5 is slower. i didnt say 6.5 is slow
I'll give you my opinion......... since I played with them all.
I had been running DCD 3.3.4 for 6-8 months until about a month ago when the "tinker bug" kicked in again and I had to flash and play with new ROM's.
I first went to 6.5 ROM's by RyanMogul and a few others both here and on PPCGeeks. All of them are visually stunning, but, all of them ARE slower than ROM's running 6.1
Also, for me, free memory was an issue. 6.5 simply needs more memory than 6.1 and there isn't nothing you can do about it. 6.5 ideally should be run on phones with 128MB RAM or more.
I loved 6.5 for its looks, but, I run programs like SPB Phone Suite, Pocket Weather, Palringo, and others, often simultaneously, and that just wasnt realistic with 6.5 due to low RAM availability.
So I went back to 6.1, and to good old DCD. 4.1.2 is amazing in my opinion. It has major performance and memory management improvements over his previous ROM's. It's incredibly stable, and it IS faster than any other ROM (6.1 or 6.5) I've personally tried out.
It's given my xv6800 some more life. Until the Tour comes out and I jump onto the evil Blackberry bandwagon, 4.1.2 is it for me.
I highly recommend.
rajuabju said:
I'll give you my opinion......... since I played with them all.
I had been running DCD 3.3.4 for 6-8 months until about a month ago when the "tinker bug" kicked in again and I had to flash and play with new ROM's.
I first went to 6.5 ROM's by RyanMogul and a few others both here and on PPCGeeks. All of them are visually stunning, but, all of them ARE slower than ROM's running 6.1
Also, for me, free memory was an issue. 6.5 simply needs more memory than 6.1 and there isn't nothing you can do about it. 6.5 ideally should be run on phones with 128MB RAM or more.
I loved 6.5 for its looks, but, I run programs like SPB Phone Suite, Pocket Weather, Palringo, and others, often simultaneously, and that just wasnt realistic with 6.5 due to low RAM availability.
So I went back to 6.1, and to good old DCD. 4.1.2 is amazing in my opinion. It has major performance and memory management improvements over his previous ROM's. It's incredibly stable, and it IS faster than any other ROM (6.1 or 6.5) I've personally tried out.
It's given my xv6800 some more life. Until the Tour comes out and I jump onto the evil Blackberry bandwagon, 4.1.2 is it for me.
I highly recommend.
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Thank you for explaining that so eloquently. I think you've just convinced me to go back to 6.1 after running 6.5 for roughly a month. 6.5 is amazing and very finger friendly, but not the OS for the Titan. Just uses too much memory, no matter what. I've tried different programs to free up RAM and keep me from soft resetting 2 or 3 times a day, but none of them really work. On 6.5 I can almost never run 2 apps at once, unless they are very small. So back to good ol DCD for me. At least until I get a new device! (touch pro maybe )
Just my 2 cents
Currently I am running Mattsm 6.5 23003b and this morning I was running 4 apps and switching between them with enough memory for all of them. I was on a website, Biblegateway, had a java application open, Go Bible by Jolon Faichney, Word 6.1 and Windows Mobile 6.5 Titanium Today (this skin allows both vertical scrolling and on some panes, horizontal movement) which I was using as the switching point to jump back and forth. I have run DCD ROMs in the past and they are great ROMs but if you want to see what is possible with your Titan follow the different developers.
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Thank you for explaining that so eloquently. I think you've just convinced me to go back to 6.1 after running 6.5 for roughly a month. 6.5 is amazing and very finger friendly, but not the OS for the Titan. Just uses too much memory, no matter what. I've tried different programs to free up RAM and keep me from soft resetting 2 or 3 times a day, but none of them really work. On 6.5 I can almost never run 2 apps at once, unless they are very small. So back to good ol DCD for me. At least until I get a new device! (touch pro maybe )
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One thing that DCD kept on repeating with the release of 4.1.2 was that the amount of free memory was determined by what was in the ROM. So you stripped EVERYTHING out and added it later with cabs and you suddenly start with a higher amount of memory from the outset.
I'd love to see Ryan prove this by releasing his "light" rom with a required cab. I bet if the rom didn't have all the the extra ring tones and addons he includes, we'd boot to more than 17.5mb I've available in his wm7 rom.
I'm glad you mentioned you can turn off the new today screen. I'm not impressed so far. But the big thing is that my GPS is working again which it never did with DCD's last release.
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One thing that DCD kept on repeating with the release of 4.1.2 was that the amount of free memory was determined by what was in the ROM. So you stripped EVERYTHING out and added it later with cabs and you suddenly start with a higher amount of memory from the outset.
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i think you misunderstood me, or i misspoke. free program memory should be the same whether an application is in rom, or installed post-flash.
free storage memory may be slightly higher when applications are installed via cab after flashing, because any files outside of /windows are duplicated when cooked in. however, this is the reason that most htc-written applications run from /windows, and those applications would thus would require the same storage memory whether in ROM or not.
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i think you misunderstood me, or i misspoke. free program memory should be the same whether an application is in rom, or installed post-flash.
free storage memory may be slightly higher when applications are installed via cab after flashing, because any files outside of /windows are duplicated when cooked in. however, this is the reason that most htc-written applications run from /windows, and those applications would thus would require the same storage memory whether in ROM or not.
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I was just thinking, DCD should change his name to Optimus Prime
BrianLayman said:
One thing that DCD kept on repeating with the release of 4.1.2 was that the amount of free memory was determined by what was in the ROM. So you stripped EVERYTHING out and added it later with cabs and you suddenly start with a higher amount of memory from the outset.
I'd love to see Ryan prove this by releasing his "light" rom with a required cab. I bet if the CAB didn't have all the the extra ring tones and addons he includes, we'd boot to more than 17.5mb I've available in his wm7 rom.
I'm glad you mentioned you can turn off the new today screen. I'm not impressed so far. But the big thing is that my GPS is working again which it never did with DCD's last release.
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Please don't mumble about me incoherently. My ROMs do not use any CABs besides 1.1 Heavy and thats 1 out of 7 ROMs. Version 1.1 Heavy installs Google maps using a cab and M2D via Auto Customization.. Otherwise there is not a single CAB involved in the any other of my ROMs flashing and booting the first time..
The ringtones are not a CAB.. They are added ingredients used while cooking a ROM in a kitchen..
Release my ROM without the required cab...??? wtf.. lol
I know I should include less ringtones but I do the best I can. I don't appreciate my work being examined with a fine tooth comb pointing out any imperfection you can find to take away from its luster..
I release several versions so if you want pretty and loaded, you get that. If you want ugly and slim, you get that too. And a few things in between. Like I said I try.
I will remove some of the ringtones next time I cook and relocate several installs to make sure they stay only in the windows directory because I know what you guys mean.
Some ppl are just dicks. I'm currently running ryans 6.5 the heavy one. He did a great job since I want 6.5 on my mogul till the TP2 comes out. I turned off most of the things I don't need like the new today screen and the camera which I hardly ever use, I'm consistently at over 25mb but I mostly use my phone to get e-mails and txt.
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i think you misunderstood me, or i misspoke. free program memory should be the same whether an application is in rom, or installed post-flash.
free storage memory may be slightly higher when applications are installed via cab after flashing, because any files outside of /windows are duplicated when cooked in. however, this is the reason that most htc-written applications run from /windows, and those applications would thus would require the same storage memory whether in ROM or not.
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Hey who's this guy?? Glad to see your alive and well dcd.... Just another thanks for all you've done for the community....
dcd1182 said:
i think you misunderstood me, or i misspoke. free program memory should be the same whether an application is in rom, or installed post-flash. Free storage memory may be slightly higher when applications are installed via cab after flashing, because any files outside of /windows are duplicated when cooked in.
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Ah, that could fit with what you were saying. Man, now I wish I could find the exact quote. I'd like to better understand what you were saying with this added bit of info. I've searched for about 20 minutes with no luck.
You were responding for the 20th time to someone asking why you'd only released a ROM and one that didn't have games or something in it. I read it to say that if the ROM was smaller and people installed their req software via cabs, in general, everyone would have more free program memory. Which seemed to make sense... I just carried it a little further than you meant, and assumed then that items installed to the device later didn't affect the amount of "ram" available. sigh... I miss the days the memory slider on my old e750 that allowed me to override balance between storage memory and program memory. Anyway, thanks for the additional info.
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Please don't mumble about me incoherently. My ROMs do not use any CABs besides 1.1 Heavy and thats 1 out of 7 ROMs. Version 1.1 Heavy installs Google maps using a cab and M2D via Auto Customization.. Otherwise there is not a single CAB involved in the any other of my ROMs flashing and booting the first time..
The ringtones are not a CAB.. They are added ingredients used while cooking a ROM in a kitchen..
Release my ROM without the required cab...??? wtf.. lol
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Ryan, dude, slow down a minute and read what I actually typed.
I never said anything about your current ROMS requiring CABs nor did I say that you'd released a ROM that was a missing required CAB.
I was talking about doing an experiment, making a test build, to prove a theory about memory usage. Sometimes that's what we do, we try an idea, see if it improves the situation and drop it when it doesn't pan out. Heck, I didn't even expect you to be reading this thread. So, I certainly wouldn't have been criticizing you or your work here.
What worries me more is the "Please don't mumble about me". No one said anything against you. Even if people do say stuff about your works, don't take it as a criticism about you, personally. If you keep doing that, you'll lead a miserable life as a developer.
I know releasing no-cost software on which everyone has an opinion is difficult. But if you are so uptight, so quickly, you really should step back from reading threads for a bit. This place WILL drive you nuts if you let it, but it will happen much faster if you take everything as a judgment of your worth.
RyanMogul6800 said:
I know I should include less ringtones but I do the best I can. I don't appreciate my work being examined with a fine tooth comb pointing out any imperfection you can find to take away from its luster..
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As explained above, I've never criticized a single feature of your ROM. I mentioned 17.5 free on your heavy ROM with the wm7 extras, but I consider that darn good for your heaviest ROM. I've booted under other roms to 15 something.
And as far as "I don't appreciate my work being examined with a fine tooth comb", well... you should.
Take all the input and critiques you can. After 20 years as a programmer I know bugs happen. I'm not perfect. Making good stuff makes me proud, but I'll tell you now that I won't ever create a perfect piece of complex software on the 1st or 10th go around. If someone points out a problem, then that is a chance for my stuff to be even better, if I decide I want to fix it.
I am now running your 6.1 light version, which I think is incredible. Your roms have resolved several issues I've had with this refurb phone I am now using. And while I am extremely impressed with the level of detail you've gone to(like the fact that you've included the right codecs/dlls for tcpmp to play wma files on 6.1), you should not be surprised that I have found a nit-picky mistake and have some suggestions for you to consider.
I'd not share them here in any case, as it is off topic to this thread, and if it will hurt your feelings or honor for me to post it anywhere, I'll keep the information to myself. At least the one suggestion, will add a missing feature to your ROM, but I'll leave it up to you.

Do I have to flash my ROM to get the newest TouchFlo 3D?

Right now I'm running the stock Sprint ROM. All I really want to change (man I'm getting boring in my old age!) is the TouchFlo version. I reallllly want the calendar tab on the main screen.
Do I have to flash my entire ROM to get that or can you just upgrade/install over the old TouchFlo? I search the forums here with a variety of key words but everything I found pointed back to ROMs of some sort.
Thanks for the help guys!
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Right now I'm running the stock Sprint ROM. All I really want to change (man I'm getting boring in my old age!) is the TouchFlo version. I reallllly want the calendar tab on the main screen.
Do I have to flash my entire ROM to get that or can you just upgrade/install over the old TouchFlo? I search the forums here with a variety of key words but everything I found pointed back to ROMs of some sort.
Thanks for the help guys!
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You can probably upgrade to a later version of TF3D, but truth be told... it would me much simpler to flash since there is a slew of things that need to be done to get the extra tabs and such. Besides, flashing to something like the NRG roms will boost your TP's performance... a lot!
Do you have any suggestions?
I actually just gave my Touch Pro to my wife... so while *I* have a huge tolerance after years and years of flashing ROMs and tweaking phones for the hiccups that come with such matters, I don't want to put her in a position of having to trouble shoot her phone without me or it crashing on her.
She's all about juicing up her phone with a new ROM but I don't want it to be horrible experience for her.
I was looking, earlier today, at NFSFAN's rom. It seems to be very well received although it looked like people were having trouble with the push-based syncing (which would be a deal breaker since her phone syncs to Google)
jfitzpatrick said:
Do you have any suggestions?
I actually just gave my Touch Pro to my wife... so while *I* have a huge tolerance after years and years of flashing ROMs and tweaking phones for the hiccups that come with such matters, I don't want to put her in a position of having to trouble shoot her phone without me or it crashing on her.
She's all about juicing up her phone with a new ROM but I don't want it to be horrible experience for her.
I was looking, earlier today, at NFSFAN's rom. It seems to be very well received although it looked like people were having trouble with the push-based syncing (which would be a deal breaker since her phone syncs to Google)
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NFS is usually good... I would try that as well as NRG, Mighty, Vevitto, and probably Juicy. Hope that helps...
egzthunder1 said:
You can probably upgrade to a later version of TF3D, but truth be told... it would me much simpler to flash since there is a slew of things that need to be done to get the extra tabs and such. Besides, flashing to something like the NRG roms will boost your TP's performance... a lot!
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How to upgrade it? ive installed the Stock ROM on my TP(GSM) from site sunnysoft.com/htc/ and its kinda flawless and very very fast. I dont wanna change the ROM but i could use the calendar tab from sense 2.1 cos i find it very handy.. is there a way to add it to my tf3d ?
I tried to install sense 2.1 from cabs on this ROM but had the problem updating weather so i dropped it, besides that the ROM wasnt working so smoothly anymore.
akires said:
How to upgrade it? ive installed the Stock ROM on my TP(GSM) from site sunnysoft.com/htc/ and its kinda flawless and very very fast. I dont wanna change the ROM but i could use the calendar tab from sense 2.1 cos i find it very handy.. is there a way to add it to my tf3d ?
I tried to install sense 2.1 from cabs on this ROM but had the problem updating weather so i dropped it, besides that the ROM wasnt working so smoothly anymore.
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Stuff for Sense/TF3D tend to write and drop a bunch of files under the Windows directory, which (under most cases) will slow down your device. So, getting it pre-cooked is always better as it is cleaner than the installation.

[Q] I can't decide which Rom to try for my HD2

What is the best Rom for HD2?
Newbie here - to this site anyway - having just bought a HD2. I've had a look through the various Rom sites and the spreadsheet, but I can't decide which Rom to try for my HD2. I need to be up and running pretty quickly but I don't mind a bit of tweaking in my spare time.
I've had WM6.1 for a while on my old PDA and have tweaked it a bit.
As far as I can see I want the most up to date but reliable. Other criteria are fast, relatively lean, appointments/calendar, Outlook (MS Exchange), Internet, Office 2010. I use GPS a lot (have a couple that I've bought for 6.1). No social media - don't use it much.
I like the screen to show time and appointments most importantly and to have easy access to email - I get about 80 per day.
Please be as constructive as possible. Maybe some pros & cons would be helpful.
Many thanks
should've searched...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640732
Try the Energy Rom, Miri's Rom, Artemis, Dutty's - there are sooo many it's crazy hard to count...
I've been constantly switching between Energy and Dutty, Energy because it's easier to use and setup, looks nicer from the start, and is blazing fast, but Dutty's I find snappier and much better battery life. It's all personal experience... Just wait til you turn into a flash-a-holic like most of us here.
i tried them all and keep trying them all i am a flash addict , on a serious note just try them all until you find one you like
I'd go with this one:
http://hotfile.com/dl/92454692/a2b18ee/Energy.Leo.21916.Sense2.5.Cookie.2.0.sencity.Dec.27.7z.html
taken from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
It's a very stable 6.5 ROM with the awesome black and white sencity theme. It is fast and optimized and has everything you want. And it's Cookie 2.0 which means you can modify every aspect of the home screen, including email alerts, calendar, etc...
make sure you have the right radio per this:
If you're a beginner, read on as there's a few things you need to do first.
You need to install a modified "SPL" on your device that allows installation of custom ROMs such as this one. It's called a "Hard SPL" and it's in of these stickies at the top of this forum (not this thread!).
You need to install a compatible "radio" firmware that works with this ROM. The radios that work with this ROM all have ".50" in their name.
If you have a TMobile USA branded device, then you don't need to flash a "radio". The ROM will work just fine with it. However, if you own an asian or european HD2 then you NEED to flash a .50 radio.
I RECOMMEND FLASHING RADIO 2.07.50 or 2.12.50 ! 2.07 can be downloaded here: > CLICK <.
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I tried Energy Room twice on My HD2 and it's look good, I didn't had any problem​
Try latest rom from Dutty.
Duttys_2.5_5.21916.5.0.95_3.14_HD2_ML_Family_ROM_(V12)_WWE
Here is a links : http://fileserve.com/list/RmZpnKD
It's simple and fast.
Is it better than v13? I see that it is available
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610634
Whatdoyaknow said:
Is it better than v13? I see that it is available
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610634
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Duttys_2.5_5.23152.5.3.12_3.14_HD2_ML_Family_ROM_(V13a)_WWE.7z is COM3 BUILDS
Duttys_2.5_5.21916.5.0.95_3.14_HD2_ML_Family_ROM_(V12)_WWE.7z is COM2 BUILDS.
If you use GPS software like [Garmin XT],you should go for COM2 BUILD as It's work great and no problem with me.
For COM3 it may have some problem with Garmin XT.
For me the good choice is Duttys_2.5_5.21916.5.0.95_3.14_HD2_ML_Family_ROM_(V12)_WWE.7z is COM2 BUILDS.
COM2 have the start menu on the top left corner.
COM3 have the start menu on the bottom left corner.
I am ususally a stock ROM guy,lately I tryed many custom ROMs,my problem with almost all of them was that they are based on latest HTC 3.14 FW,since I rely mostly on WIFI,and after trying Zillion times,its connection to the WIFI is just unstable.
However for the last couple of days I found this ROM called Clynex,for the first time I am so far happy with the WIFI connection,Its a bare bone ROM,very fast,usually I end up with 110MB of internal storage after installing my usuall applications,now I have 256MB !!.
RAM starts with over 300MB,on stock ROM It is next to impossible to have Opera 10 running and at the same time open the Camera,with this no problem even with few Tabs running.!!
I am using the standard one since ultra doesnt let you customize your themes,if someone wants to try it I suggest that re-install the CHT-EDITOR 1.8.5,-I was having language incompatibility ERROR.
Nice thread to exchange experiances and views.
Thanks for that info. Clynex? Is that CleanEX? If not do you have a link please
Cheers...
Yes that is it, Im using the RV Standard v. 1.01. 6.5
I tryed ultra but switched back to standard 6.5 since I needed the Co0kies 1.8.5 for theme customization.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875125
I did couple of things:
1-re-installed the the CHT editor 1.8.5(not Cookies just the CHT)
2-installed the marketplace ,you can find the .cab somewhere in this forum.
3-deleted the unnecessary Ringtones.
4-I noticed that most of the Tweaks were already done,but I changed the camera 5MP to 762929 in the registery,this will give you photos of 720p quality.
You can try le last Artemis v48.1.
This is the best artemis ROM at this moment for me
I am using Dutty's family Rom V13a, amazing battery life compared to stock and it has not crashed once since installing. Stock was freezing and crashing all the time.
Re GPS and Com. My presnt PDA is using Com 9 for the GPS.
What is the standard for the HD2?
Cheers...
try duttys ... family .. so far the best..
straight to android
j_zy said:
straight to android
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Thanks for your comment. Why do you recommend it?
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shubh.27hd2 said:
try duttys ... family .. so far the best..
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Thanks for your comment. Why do you recommend it?
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Me too, i will recommend Dutty's ROM
why i like it:
it's fast
it's looks like an original ROM
easy to flash
and it's very stable

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