hero with out the sens - Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi-will the hero work without the sens ? i mean will it work with the regular android gui.
like with the tf3d on wm .
thx

Yes it does. Somehow when i press my home button i get the option of either touchflo or home. Not sure how i got it to do this though!
The home one is just the plain android screen..

I got that too, happens if you press and hold home to view running applications. Goes away if you tick the make default action box (until you press and hold home again)

Yeh i noticed that too, also underneath it says something about changing options in settings home etc..

Tis nice to have the option to do this but the fact that you can do it is clearly a bug. I've let HTC know about it (although they are probably following the forums anyway).

herman3101 said:
Tis nice to have the option to do this but the fact that you can do it is clearly a bug. I've let HTC know about it (although they are probably following the forums anyway).
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It's not a bug lol, the Sense UI home is simply a separate application to the original home instead of a replacement. like aHome, Dxtop etc etc.

also, holding the home button shows you recently run applications, not applications still running =)

Ok i can't do it on my Hero. Why?? i don't know. MY phone is sim free and not from orange or t-mobile. Maby that's why ??

yeah, it only seems to happen on the Orange and T-Mobile ones. It's not supposed to happen at all!
The Ui is indeed just an application, but it is supposed to run instead of the original Home and you aren't supposed to have access to it any more.

rhedgehog said:
yeah, it only seems to happen on the Orange and T-Mobile ones. It's not supposed to happen at all!
The Ui is indeed just an application, but it is supposed to run instead of the original Home and you aren't supposed to have access to it any more.
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If this is the case are the phones faulty then? Do we ring and ask for new ones. ( mine is a bit worn now had it a week)

they all seem to do it. it appears to be a bug in the firmwares.
I'm sat here with a brown sim free one, running 1.76.405.6 and i can not get it to do this, no matter what i try. each method that people have posted to get it to doit, just simply doesn't seem to do it on the unbranded ones.
I saw a preview device back in may, that had the watermarked screen, and that did do it occasionally, but the release one from work doesn't seem to do it.

Normal Android Home On Hero
Guys Its very obviously not a bug, but actually a very cool feature.
If you cant access the original home,
Here's what to do...
Go to Settings - Applications - Manage Applications.
Scroll down to 'TouchFLO' and hit 'clear defaults'
Obviously this will clear the default action of taking you to the TouchFLO or Rosie UI home.
When you have done this every time you press the home button you will have a choice. Home or TouchFLO.
HERE'S THE HANDY THING ABOUT IT...
So far a bunch of apps have either had trouble or not worked at all due to the TouchFLO UI on the hero. And for obvious reasons. So...
Hit home and choose to launch TouchFLO by default (so you don't have the option of the normal android home)
Download Bar Control by the legendary Andrew Schwimmer for free on the market. open it and scroll to home. Click on home and choose an icon from the list. I chose the home icon but go crazy and choose the little android or whatever.
Now you can only go to the TouchFLO home when you press the physical home key but in you notification bar you can tap the home (or whatever icon you chose) icon and go to the original 3 screen android home.
WHY ITS A COOL FEATURE...
When in the original 3 screen android home the sense UI is not taking up foreground processes. as far as I know anyway. Reason I think this is I am a: now able to install and fully use apps that wouldn't work whilst on the Touch FLO home. And b: my Copilot Live Sat Nav works far better with almost no glitches. Thus bringing me to the conclusion that switching homes is a banging idea/feature
Thank you for you time
dmanbwxe

now that IS cool!
even though it is a bug, cos it's not supposed to do it out of the box (although yes, you can fiddle with it) Having the two like that is a nice set up!!

Yet another cool little tweak. you gotta love Android

I registered just so I could say...
Brilliant!

rhedgehog said:
now that IS cool!
even though it is a bug, cos it's not supposed to do it out of the box (although yes, you can fiddle with it) Having the two like that is a nice set up!!
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I just spoke with HTC yesterday and asked about this..
Apparently you need to think of Sense UI like TouchFlo on the Windows Mobile. If you don't like it (and some won't) they have allowed the user to choose whether they want the original or Touch Flo.
So looks like it is not a bug, but its actually meant to do this.
Nice going I say, pleases everyone, and also..... Nice to know that the phone is very fast and responsive without Sense UI, meaning that like Touch Flo 3D, its just a tweaking game to get it to work flawlessly and smoothly, which will come in the future.

@dmanbwxe
just to clarify then- after going through all the steps you said there, pressing home will return to touchflo home as it did before, as if nothing was changed, yes? Definitely not bringing up a menu to pick which home I want?

EDIT- double post

I did this and saw a very significant performance improvement, so set 'Home' to be my default. Now I always go to the standard Android screen. In the settings menu the default option is now grayed out and holding home doesn't give me an option. Is there anyway to get sense back? I don't want to keep it, but would like to play with it some more, but mainly just have the option, I guess.
Oh, without going back to factory defaults ;-)

Homeswitcher did the trick for me (available in the market)

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Touch Pro Pop Up On Screen Keyboard

How do I make this feature go away when in landscape mode and I am using the slider? Help!!!
Ummm, hit the keyboard icon right below the onscreen keyboard?
I want it to permanently stay down unless I tell it to pop up. It shouldn't pop up if the slider is out.
null keyboard. should solve the problem (i had it installed on my treo, and i think it should work fine on the TP)
http://discussion.treocentral.com/archive/index.php/t-129200.html
NullKB
While NullKB is the best on-screen keyboard fix I have seen, it's also the ONLY fix I have seen. I have been using it since I had the Sprint HTC Mogul. After installing on The Touch Pro, it tends to keep the KB at bay inconsistently. I am not sure if it stops working automatically upon soft reset but I wish it would control this issue unless otherwise directed.
download 'Advanced Configuration Tool'
Then in the Input section Disable 'auto deploy SIP'
dansblackcat said:
download 'Advanced Configuration Tool'
Then in the Input section Disable 'auto deploy SIP'
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I have never seen that option in Advanced Config.
I will check today to confirm.
I hate touching my phone while sharing internet, They always get cranky and it turns off for some reason.
Null keyboard works. Yay 4 Jugs rom has it built in.
I think he had a newer version then mine. Mine would just load a white box and stay up, His loads the box for a moment, then never comes back. But the bar will come up when its trying to deploy the keyboard.
This one has pissed me off for ages too. Just another one of those things Microsoft should have fixed several versions ago.
I dont think its nessarly their thing.
The dev's just are not writing something in to the phone to tell it to not put the keyboard up when you dont want it.
I dont think its a windows mobile thing at all.
Just remember, what devs think and what actuall users think are tottaly different.
We like no irritations unless we ask for them. They are thinking "well this would be good if the keyboard poped up here right now"
The other problem though with the OSK is that as soon as you bring it up, by accident, or purpose, it will pop up for everything after that. That is the one that bugs me the most.
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Okay, I checked advanced config, and the option is there, i set it to disabled. Haven't tested it yet.
Working out another issue with standby at the moment.
Sarinhighwind,
Please let us know if the advanced config changed, worked. The on screen keyboard on my Sprint TP, pops up when I go into landscape mode, and then when I start to type using the slider key pad it disappears.
I don't want it to pop up at all.
Thanks.
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Sarinhighwind,
Please let us know if the advanced config changed, worked. The on screen keyboard on my Sprint TP, pops up when I go into landscape mode, and then when I start to type using the slider key pad it disappears.
I don't want it to pop up at all.
Thanks.
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Just checked, I forgot to earlier.
It does NOT work.
Like a lot of Advanced config features do not at the moment.
I used AC 3.3
The latest as I know of. Or maybe its 3.2 Whatever it was a few days ago when the TP came out.
This one has annoyed me as well... Using AC 3.2 it works well for me, the SKB does not deploy but it required a soft reset before it would work...
I use version 3.3 and it works fine for me. No more keyboard pop up here.
As above. YES you must do a soft reset before it works.
i see u guys arent recommending advanced config on the htc touch pro cdma .. is there one currently that is better... to change startup pick.. change soft key buttons....change order of tabs on tf3d
Another version of this question: how do I make the pop-up icon appear on every screen? (It does not appear on the today screen, for example).
you would use Diamond Tweak
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip]"TurnOffAutoDeploy"=dword:00000001
If you make this entry into the reg it turns it off most of the time, in opera doesn't work
I know this is an old topic but I was looking for a solution for my Verizon XV6850 Touch Pro and Diamond Tweak worked for me (on SSK's 2.1.1 rom) but it's the same thing your gonna have to soft reset.
This was most annoying for me because it would pop up when making calender appointments for drop down menus. If you have a drop down why do you need to type in the time???
Anyway it worked like a charm just go down to keyboard (popup) and select disable and you'll be set
fury161 said:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip]"TurnOffAutoDeploy"=dword:00000001
If you make this entry into the reg it turns it off most of the time, in opera doesn't work
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Is there a REG Tweak that tells it to always start in 123 mode? My keyboard is stuck in 123 mode and won't switch when I press the abc button on the screen keyboard...

[PHONE CANVAS] [VGA] [LEO] [2G] Released And testing others

Ok, Everybody heres a finished (to my comfort) dialer that as far as i can see works properly.
I'll say its working at 99.999 percent and as with all the other canvases, landscape is not perfect.
its primarily for manila 2.5 but can work with 2.1, its 2G so no video calling but does have conference and works preaty smooth.
just quit cprog (and phcanvga.exe if you have it), install and then soft reset.
Cab pyrorob_gullum_Phone_Canvas_Enhancement_2G_4_2_V2.cab
Package: pyrorob_gullum_Phone_Canvas_Enhancement_2G_4_2_V2.rar
for those with the energy rom, heres a theme to match: pyrorob PhoneCanvas 4.2 EnergyRom Theme.cab install after the main install, soft reset.
So, i do want to thank everyone here and those who donate there time with this. I really appreciate this and am thankful for everyones help.
short statement:
we are a community of people helping each other to better our devices and only a tiny fraction of all the users contribute.
its great when it happens and no one should expect accolades or payment for there creativity.
(dont get me started on people who will only release things on this site until they get paid, i think it stifles the advancement of the community as a whole).
Now, i do want to specifically thank amarullz, whose phcanvga.exe im using, which without it, would have seriously hampered this and gullum who has been absolutely helpful and all the testers.
Phone Canvases in testing:
pyrorob Phone_Canvas_Enhancement_2G_3_0_1916_3532_2_ERom_Theme.cab
manila 2.1 compatible,no curtain, energyrom theme and confrence calling
pyrorob PhoneCanvas_4_3_35776_01.cab
manila 2.1 compatible,no curtain, confrence calling,AT&T video share and AT&T ptt (push to talk).
Hi Pyrorob, Im sure many people here are like me and read your posts, use your fixes, but dont know how to mod dialers and whatnot, so cant really offer help or suggestions with the things you are asking. It doesnt mean your efforst aren't appreciated though!
Regarding your dialer, it would be helpful if you posted a screenshot so we know what we're getting. And also some confirmations that we can uninstall the cab and it will restore our previous dialer without any issues etc. It probably also pays to mention not to use SKTools as you said in the EnergyROM thread it can totally delete the phone canvas and you wont be able to get back the one prior to install
Out of interest just how DO you do something like this anyway? Im a computer programmer but dont know anything about working on the phones. Like what language is the dialer written in? Do you have access to the code and can make changes that way, or are you just trying to resize images and hex edit things inside resource files or exe/dlls etc (eg x and y offsets)?
Thanks pyrorob, I'll give it a whirl, and I'll be sure and post if I have any thoughts.
Okay, so I can't get it to install. Says "Installation was unsuccessful. The program or settign cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions." I used dotfred's taskmanager to kill cprog, and put the phone into airplane mode. Any ideas?
Cyfun said:
Okay, so I can't get it to install. Says "Installation was unsuccessful. The program or settign cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions." I used dotfred's taskmanager to kill cprog, and put the phone into airplane mode. Any ideas?
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Also kill phcanvga.exe.
scarecrow420 said:
Hi Pyrorob, Im sure many people here are like me and read your posts, use your fixes, but dont know how to mod dialers and whatnot, so cant really offer help or suggestions with the things you are asking. It doesnt mean your efforst aren't appreciated though!
Regarding your dialer, it would be helpful if you posted a screenshot so we know what we're getting. And also some confirmations that we can uninstall the cab and it will restore our previous dialer without any issues etc. It probably also pays to mention not to use SKTools as you said in the EnergyROM thread it can totally delete the phone canvas and you wont be able to get back the one prior to install
Out of interest just how DO you do something like this anyway? Im a computer programmer but dont know anything about working on the phones. Like what language is the dialer written in? Do you have access to the code and can make changes that way, or are you just trying to resize images and hex edit things inside resource files or exe/dlls etc (eg x and y offsets)?
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yes, i understand that, the only thing is, i didn't just open a thread and waited, i sent out a bunch of pm's to different people that i know knew the specifics of what to do and how to do it right and no one even had the decency to even reply. its like people think of this as some sort of competition..
yeah if you just follow the same steps to uninstall as you did to install then youll be fine. basically the dll's for the canvas have a bunch of positioning resources and thru lots of trial and error i managed to get things to where they are now.
I checked out your canvas on my Touch Pro.
The only think I noticed (except of the back button on the top right corner you mentioned) is that the left soft button "All People" does not work for me.
When I press it it changes from "All People" to "Contacts" and Manila crashes in the Background.
Any hints?
I have the same sig as above and dialer is working great! Only few bugs i see are what was mentioned already, especially with the all people left sofkey. Another is when you place a call the top taskbar is gone, small rezizing issue exactly the same as with rhodium dialer. If u hit keypad the taskbar comes back then tap call status to go back and the taskbar stays. Maybe get it to stay from the get go when you first make a call? All the features seem to work and landscape seems smoother then rhodium with it. Sorry cant help you with the technical side but always a happy beta tester. Just work out the few kinks, give it a makeover, good to go!!!
I have the same sig as above and dialer is working great! Only few bugs i see are what was mentioned already, especially with the all people left sofkey. Another is when you place a call the top taskbar is gone, small rezizing issue exactly the same as with rhodium dialer. If u hit keypad the taskbar comes back then tap call status to go back and the taskbar stays. Maybe get it to stay from the get go when you first make a call? All the features seem to work and landscape seems smoother then rhodium with it. Sorry cant help you with the technical side but always a happy beta tester. Just work out the few kinks, give it a makeover, good to go!!!
P.S.
One more thing. If you're in landscape already say writint a text message, then press the call button to bring up the dialer, the screen goes into portrait mode with the dialer while it should be in landscape. Then you have to close the hardware keyboard, reopen, now dialer is in landscape.
Bluetooth Volume???
Can anyone test this dialer with their bluetooth device? I dont have one handy right now. Just to make a call, try to adjust the volume up/down using the 2 hardkeys on the side of the phone to see if it works? I know on the rhodium dialer it doesnt change the actual volume on the headset, just shows on the volume volume is changing but does nothing. Hope its not the case with this dialer or can be fixed if it is? Thanks
deeznuts said:
I have the same sig as above and dialer is working great! Only few bugs i see are what was mentioned already, especially with the all people left sofkey. Another is when you place a call the top taskbar is gone, small rezizing issue exactly the same as with rhodium dialer. If u hit keypad the taskbar comes back then tap call status to go back and the taskbar stays. Maybe get it to stay from the get go when you first make a call? All the features seem to work and landscape seems smoother then rhodium with it. Sorry cant help you with the technical side but always a happy beta tester. Just work out the few kinks, give it a makeover, good to go!!!
P.S.
One more thing. If you're in landscape already say writint a text message, then press the call button to bring up the dialer, the screen goes into portrait mode with the dialer while it should be in landscape. Then you have to close the hardware keyboard, reopen, now dialer is in landscape.
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deeznuts said:
Can anyone test this dialer with their bluetooth device? I dont have one handy right now. Just to make a call, try to adjust the volume up/down using the 2 hardkeys on the side of the phone to see if it works? I know on the rhodium dialer it doesnt change the actual volume on the headset, just shows on the volume volume is changing but does nothing. Hope its not the case with this dialer or can be fixed if it is? Thanks
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ok first one, the all people soft key, im testing the dialer on a phone with manila 2.5 and when you hit that key it goes into the manila contacts, the dialer originally is from a manila 2.5 leo rom so it might only work 100% with a manila 2.5 rom..
the top taksbar has to do with the repositioning by the phcanvga if it doent move up the incall screen and cut off the top then the buttons at the bottom will be cut. sometimes the phcanvga doesn't reposition properly at first so you can do a few things like switch to landscape and back, goto contacts and back or close and reopen it and it will reposition itself.
yeah and it going back to portrait? well as far as i know there isnt a whole lot of landscape support with the leo since it doesn't have a hard keyboard so i guess thats the way htc programed this?..
second one, try putting in this reg key:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Volume]
"EnableAdjustHSVolume"=dword:00000001
see if that works
Apart from the 'back' key issue noted, no problems on my current ROM build. Have installed, unistalled and reinstalled without issue following Pyrorob's instructions. Conference calling working well (my mates like being part of the beta test!). Great job and Thanks!
pyrorob said:
ok first one, the all people soft key, im testing the dialer on a phone with manila 2.5 and when you hit that key it goes into the manila contacts, the dialer originally is from a manila 2.5 leo rom so it might only work 100% with a manila 2.5 rom..
the top taksbar has to do with the repositioning by the phcanvga if it doent move up the incall screen and cut off the top then the buttons at the bottom will be cut. sometimes the phcanvga doesn't reposition properly at first so you can do a few things like switch to landscape and back, goto contacts and back or close and reopen it and it will reposition itself.
yeah and it going back to portrait? well as far as i know there isnt a whole lot of landscape support with the leo since it doesn't have a hard keyboard so i guess thats the way htc programed this?..
second one, try putting in this reg key:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Volume]
"EnableAdjustHSVolume"=dword:00000001
see if that works
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Oh i see, didnt know it was from a 2.5 version. That makes sense then. You think you can make a version to work with 2.1 manila though? I have no idea how hard that would be, just talking about getting the left softkey going for 2.1 manila. Ill have my jawbone 3 later today. Ill try it out of the box first to see if it works with the volume hardkeys on the phone, if that doesnt work then ill plug in the reg edit you provided. Still, this is the fastest port for a very nice vga dialer for our phones, WOW! Cant believe it took them forever to port tachi dialer and took u a few days and this one is wayyyyy better then tachi! Great work and would happily donate to you or wherever you would like me too for this and all your great work pyrorob, thank you!!!
Umm
Well out of the box the headset volume cannot be changed by the device with this dialer. I looked in the registry using the regular reg edit app thats cooked into nrg's rom and also tried using the one that came with sktools (which is more friendly i think!), neither have that entry.
I go to current user, control panel, volume, only entries here are all one worded, nothing like what you described and nothing with a standard setting of 0000001 or anything like that. Ill get a screen shot for u if that helps but looking in the reg i cant find it. Do i need to "add" the reg entry u described since its not there? If i do, how do i add it? Never done that before.
So far the only bug that I have found appart from the already mention ones, is a sliding bar on the right corner of the dialer when I open it up. The only way that i have found to make it disapear its by fliping the phone so the dialer goes to landscape and fliping it back to portrait and no more silder bar, and by closing the dialer with the end button instead of the x. Appart from that is working really great, so far no connecting delays ussing slide 2 answer. I'll be using it a couple of days more to test it out to see if anything else pops up. Hell, i like it so much i'll keep it until a new flash or a update from you pyrorob.
I think the only thing that needs its the energy theme.
Geat job man!
This dialer is like a God send to us, its soo good! Tested out the slide to answer/ignore and works flawless, no lag or sticking like rhodium! This is like an upgraded rhodium dialer for US users who dont have video call, its great. Love how theres no annoying bluetooth icon on the taskbar either when bluetooth is enabled with this dialer, huge plus for me! Hate having useless icons on the taskbar. Duh i know bluetooth is on cus i turned it on, why do i need an icon up there to remind me? If u can just make some finishing touches, skin the hell out of it to match energy rom, Golden, seriously golden here!!!
kmpoboy2 said:
So far the only bug that I have found appart from the already mention ones, is a sliding bar on the right corner of the dialer when I open it up. The only way that i have found to make it disapear its by fliping the phone so the dialer goes to landscape and fliping it back to portrait and no more silder bar, and by closing the dialer with the end button instead of the x. Appart from that is working really great, so far no connecting delays ussing slide 2 answer. I'll be using it a couple of days more to test it out to see if anything else pops up. Hell, i like it so much i'll keep it until a new flash or a update from you pyrorob.
I think the only thing that needs its the energy theme.
Geat job man!
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What sliding bar is this? Are you talking about the top right corner wheres theres a grey box with a black arrow distorted pointing left? Thats the back button which would be nice if it can be skinned good or resized (looks fine in landscape as well as everything else, just not so much when receiving a call but no biggie!). Other then that, i have no idea what you're talking about? Can u provide a screen shot maybe?
deeznuts said:
What sliding bar is this? Are you talking about the top right corner wheres theres a grey box with a black arrow distorted pointing left? Thats the back button which would be nice if it can be skinned good or resized (looks fine in landscape as well as everything else, just not so much when receiving a call but no biggie!). Other then that, i have no idea what you're talking about? Can u provide a screen shot maybe?
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No man, i know the back button, it's not that. It a sliding up/down bar, the one that appears whe you flip it to landscape. It appears when i close the dialer pressing the x button and open it up again with the send button and if i flip it to landscape when flip back to portrait the bar stays, have to flip it back to make it go away. Sory can't post screen shots I'm at work, plus don't know how to take a screen shot from the phone.

[APP][UPDATED Updated 26/01/2010] PLToggle - Toggle screen rotation

I made this program in answer to a request in the HD2 General forum, but thought I should post it here.
It's a small app that toggles the display orientation back and forth to the rotation of your choice, without the need for the g-sensor.
The default installation includes the settings screen (available from your start menu), and the application itself, which is available via a long-hold of the call button. When the application is first installed, it defaults to standard landscape (the left of the phone being the bottom), but this can be changed via the settings screen.
BIG THANKS!! to vonski and Eldorado9 for their patience and testing. Thanks guys
Have fun
Note:
Manila doesn't like being forced into landscape, so you can't use this app for that - sorry. It works upside-down, just not sideways. (I've got a HD2 with Sense/Manila 2.5)
Also, I've only tested this on a WVGA device and would like to know how it works on other resolution devices, so please feel free to private message me with any feedback regarding this.
Change details (26/01/2010)
Removed the long_send link that was originally being installed in the Windows folder.
For some reason, when you press the call button to answer a call, it executes the long_send link, despite only being a quick send.
This only happens when there's an incoming call. I've removed this link from the installer, but you still execute the toggle with a long-hold of the call button.
NOTE: The installer will remove the long_send link from your windows folder.
Change details (13/01/2010)
Added the settings screen so there's now only 1 installer, instead of 3.
If you do have the previous version, you can simply delete it from the windows folder, or just leave it and install this one.
It will override the existing version's functionality, despite being able to install it on your storage card now.
Great Job!
John,
Great job and thanks for this. First thing that comes to mind is why did you not combine these into one programme so one can have the option to go left, right or upside down without having to install 3 separate apps?
If its not difficult to do and you can spare the time to do it then I would be very interested in a single combined app that I could run off my quicklinks.
I'm subscribing to this thread to watch developments.
Thanks again.
WB
wacky.banana said:
John,
Great job and thanks for this. First thing that comes to mind is why did you not combine these into one programme so one can have the option to go left, right or upside down without having to install 3 separate apps?
If its not difficult to do and you can spare the time to do it then I would be very interested in a single combined app that I could run off my quicklinks.
I'm subscribing to this thread to watch developments.
Thanks again.
WB
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It actually is 1 program, but the shortcut (long_send) is different in each zip file, and that tells the app which direction to rotate the display.
This started because someone asked for an app that would put their display in landscape and then back again, with a long-hold on the call button. After I'd done that for them, someone else asked for the opposite direction. Whilst doing that I remember that someone had once asked how to change the display to upside-down, so I did that at the same time.
The main idea here is that you pick a default rotation, and then you only have a button press to toggle it on and off. Anything more than that would require a UI and therefore more interaction, and since I'm trying to keep interaction to a minimum, that sort of goes against the principle of it.
I'll have a think about it though, but I think what you're suggesting is a completely different application. I'm not against doing that, but it won't be part of the development of this.
Thanks for the suggestion mate
Ah ok, I see. Also understand the "minimalist" philosophy behind the development.
The way I would use a programme like this would be to have it as a quicklink on my front screen (I tend not to link things to hardware buttons) which would then give me the options of (L)eft, (R)ight or (U)pside Down. If that requires a UI (I guess it does) then don't go to all that trouble.
The problem with me is I don't always rotate my device the same way all the time (I'm weird like that) although upside down is a new one on me (I remember Tubgirl, I think, asking for that).
Cheers anyway.
WB
Very nice....it's much more convenient than using BSBTweaks and shaking it... Thanks!
Just a quick question:
I use the Standard Windows Hardware Button Assignment and mapped my internet browser button with "rotate Screen"...
now here for the question: Is it possible to write that app for other buttons too? 'cause i'd love to have multifunction on my browser button and your app is almost perfect for it^^ short press = Opera, long hold = rotate... that would be SO AWESOME!!!!
btw: your app is great as it is now.... it's just a question^^
strange_nu_kid said:
Just a quick question:
I use the Standard Windows Hardware Button Assignment and mapped my internet browser button with "rotate Screen"...
now here for the question: Is it possible to write that app for other buttons too? 'cause i'd love to have multifunction on my browser button and your app is almost perfect for it^^ short press = Opera, long hold = rotate... that would be SO AWESOME!!!!
btw: your app is great as it is now.... it's just a question^^
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Thanks for the comment
I think to do what you've suggested, you'd need something like AEButtons. I've never used it myself, but I believe you can assign different actions for long and short button presses to hardware buttons.
Hope this helps
Thanks thanks thank you very much
another key assignement
is it possible to assignt the exe not to long send button but to windows start button (u know that one in the middle in htc leo-next to home button)
tnx in advance.
karaern said:
is it possible to assignt the exe not to long send button but to windows start button (u know that one in the middle in htc leo-next to home button)
tnx in advance.
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You'll need to look at other software for that. Try AEButtons. It's not something I use myself, but I believe it will do what you want.
tnx for the fast replay...actually i started to use that toggle and it works fine with long press key.
eve bsb tweek cant rotate application screen on LEO but that toggle does it.
tnx
karaern said:
tnx for the fast replay...actually i started to use that toggle and it works fine with long press key.
eve bsb tweek cant rotate application screen on LEO but that toggle does it.
tnx
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Glad it's helped mate.
Version 2 will be coming soon, with a settings screen where you can select an orientation, rather than having 3 different downloads.
Thank you vry much.
thanks man!!
Thanks
Many thanks for this, a very useful app
wacky.banana said:
First thing that comes to mind is why did you not combine these into one programme so one can have the option to go left, right or upside down without having to install 3 separate apps?
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I never liked it the way it was, so I've done some work to give you a UI so you can select a rotation style for the application.
Hope this is better for you
johncmolyneux said:
I never liked it the way it was, so I've done some work to give you a UI so you can select a rotation style for the application.
Hope this is better for you
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John,
In the language of the streets, "yo da man!"
Just downloaded and will give it a try in a minute. Sounds like just what the doctor ordered.
Cheers again.
WB
PS: Does this mean that our request has given you a chance to hone your UI skills then (lol)?
wacky.banana said:
Does this mean that our request has given you a chance to hone your UI skills then (lol)?
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Heh - They're far from honed! If it were a windows (PC) app I was building, I'd have no problems. I'm pretty nifty around windows on a PC, but mobile dev is pretty new to me, so I'm just picking it up as I go along. It's always good to find someone asking for something that makes me think "I could do that!"
Cheers for the comments mate - hope you like the new version
Just perfect on my Touch Diamond!!!! Thanks
Towserspvm2000 said:
Just perfect on my Touch Diamond!!!! Thanks
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Thanks for the comment mate - nice to know it's working well on a different resolution.

[Q] Is there a good thumbwheel UI I can use with one hand?

I've been using my HOX+ for almost six months now, fairly light use but I'm mostly happy with it. I'm still running unrooted stock, just installed the official 4.2.2 update. This is my first real smartphone, I had an unsubsidized $100 3.14" Android smartphone last year that I don't think really qualifies.
The big complaint I have with the jump to a 4.7" screen is that one-handed use is uncomfortable and requires me to stretch to reach the corners, where the buttons are often stupidly located, or sometimes even to slide the phone up and down in my hand to make the buttons accessible, not exactly easy to do with one hand without dropping the phone. I would really like a phone that is comfortable to use one-handed, but I don't want to compromise by buying a smaller screen phone, say 4.3" or god forbid the 4" size of the iPhone, as I'm not exactly thrilled with the "looking through a keyhole" quality of 4.7" either.
I think the right solution would be a thumbwheel UI in the bottom right corner, placed in the arc right where my thumb is, so I can use it one-handed with my thumb and not have to reach with my fingers. As long as it let me virtually hit all the buttons on the screen, even native app buttons like the menu button at the top or the tab switcher button at the top in Chrome, I could even buy a phablet if there was something like this, maybe a 5.5+ inch screen that I could use comfortably one-handed with just my thumb in the bottom-right corner.
The closest thing I've been able to find like this is the Splay launcher, but I don't think such launchers actually let me control menus within apps, only launch apps. This guy wrote a small app earlier this year to do something similar, seems to be a great article talking about the idea but I don't think that effort went anywhere.
Is there any effort within the xda community to integrate a one-handed control interface like this? This is a feature that would actually make me root and install a ROM, as I haven't had the need to go to the trouble yet. I'd love to see an effort like this on Android, wonder what everyone else thinks.
joakim_one said:
I've been using my HOX+ for almost six months now, fairly light use but I'm mostly happy with it. I'm still running unrooted stock, just installed the official 4.2.2 update. This is my first real smartphone, I had an unsubsidized $100 3.14" Android smartphone last year that I don't think really qualifies.
The big complaint I have with the jump to a 4.7" screen is that one-handed use is uncomfortable and requires me to stretch to reach the corners, where the buttons are often stupidly located, or sometimes even to slide the phone up and down in my hand to make the buttons accessible, not exactly easy to do with one hand without dropping the phone. I would really like a phone that is comfortable to use one-handed, but I don't want to compromise by buying a smaller screen phone, say 4.3" or god forbid the 4" size of the iPhone, as I'm not exactly thrilled with the "looking through a keyhole" quality of 4.7" either.
I think the right solution would be a thumbwheel UI in the bottom right corner, placed in the arc right where my thumb is, so I can use it one-handed with my thumb and not have to reach with my fingers. As long as it let me virtually hit all the buttons on the screen, even native app buttons like the menu button at the top or the tab switcher button at the top in Chrome, I could even buy a phablet if there was something like this, maybe a 5.5+ inch screen that I could use comfortably one-handed with just my thumb in the bottom-right corner.
The closest thing I've been able to find like this is the Splay launcher, but I don't think such launchers actually let me control menus within apps, only launch apps. This guy wrote a small app earlier this year to do something similar, seems to be a great article talking about the idea but I don't think that effort went anywhere.
Is there any effort within the xda community to integrate a one-handed control interface like this? This is a feature that would actually make me root and install a ROM, as I haven't had the need to go to the trouble yet. I'd love to see an effort like this on Android, wonder what everyone else thinks.
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A "Whole" UI made especially for one hand usage? Well I know the second best solution.
Install "Pie Controls" and assign it to any corner/side of the screen, it will allow you to launch apps but for the function that you want, you will need to root. Once you are rooted PIE has extra features like "Back, Home, Sleep, Menu, Recent Apps" ..etc.
A Second best is "LMT" launcher ALSO requires root. Once you have it, you will be able to have PIE Controls as well, PLUS a unique feature to have gestures working in all screens. You can swipe down to bring up the notification bar or swipe up for recent apps. The reason i put it as second best was because I don't really like it ..
Ofcourse there are normal launchers , like nova launcher ..etc. that allows you to swipe down to bring up the notifications but sadly that only works on the home screen.
There are also ROMS like AOKP (For us Carbon rom or something similar) which has a stock feeling but extra buttons in the Power menu. When you hold down the power menu , under the normal "Power off, restart, screenshot, airplane" you will also find "Back, Home, Recent apps"
I honestly think that PIE Controls is the best app to have out of them all since it works on all ROMs . Though for full features you should buy the Pro version.
P.S: All apps that you are looking for will require ROOT access.
Ghand0ur said:
A "Whole" UI made especially for one hand usage? Well I know the second best solution.
Install "Pie Controls" and assign it to any corner/side of the screen, it will allow you to launch apps but for the function that you want, you will need to root. Once you are rooted PIE has extra features like "Back, Home, Sleep, Menu, Recent Apps" ..etc.
A Second best is "LMT" launcher ALSO requires root. Once you have it, you will be able to have PIE Controls as well, PLUS a unique feature to have gestures working in all screens. You can swipe down to bring up the notification bar or swipe up for recent apps. The reason i put it as second best was because I don't really like it ..
Ofcourse there are normal launchers , like nova launcher ..etc. that allows you to swipe down to bring up the notifications but sadly that only works on the home screen.
There are also ROMS like AOKP (For us Carbon rom or something similar) which has a stock feeling but extra buttons in the Power menu. When you hold down the power menu , under the normal "Power off, restart, screenshot, airplane" you will also find "Back, Home, Recent apps"
I honestly think that PIE Controls is the best app to have out of them all since it works on all ROMs . Though for full features you should buy the Pro version.
P.S: All apps that you are looking for will require ROOT access.
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Thanks for all the info. I tried the Pie Control app by coolace based on your recommendation, but it didn't seem to do anything on my unrooted HOX+. I'll look into the other stuff you talked about.
joakim_one said:
Thanks for all the info. I tried the Pie Control app by coolace based on your recommendation, but it didn't seem to do anything on my unrooted HOX+. I'll look into the other stuff you talked about.
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How didn't it function?
Well here is a good video that will help you install it : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBud1hk27Rw
Although to have full features you will require to BUY the pro version and root, the free version on an unrooted version should have some functions that will work like launching apps and other stuff. Try to clarify what you meant
Ghand0ur said:
How didn't it function?
Well here is a good video that will help you install it : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBud1hk27Rw
Although to have full features you will require to BUY the pro version and root, the free version on an unrooted version should have some functions that will work like launching apps and other stuff. Try to clarify what you meant
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I installed the app and set it to work on the left, right, and bottom, then configured two short-click apps in level 1. I would then long-press at those edges and nothing happened with pie control: HTC Sense would send me to widget configuration instead.
I just watched your video and he does a slight swipe from the edge, instead of the long-press I was trying. I just installed the app again and tried that on the home screen and within a couple other apps, again no pie controls. If I do it on the home screen, it starts to scroll to the next home screen, as it always did.
There may be something about HTC Sense that it's not giving control to the pie app for gestures, or maybe there's some other switch I have to hit somewhere to actually enable the pie gestures?
joakim_one said:
I installed the app and set it to work on the left, right, and bottom, then configured two short-click apps in level 1. I would then long-press at those edges and nothing happened with pie control: HTC Sense would send me to widget configuration instead.
I just watched your video and he does a slight swipe from the edge, instead of the long-press I was trying. I just installed the app again and tried that on the home screen and within a couple other apps, again no pie controls. If I do it on the home screen, it starts to scroll to the next home screen, as it always did.
There may be something about HTC Sense that it's not giving control to the pie app for gestures, or maybe there's some other switch I have to hit somewhere to actually enable the pie gestures?
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Oh yeah I forgot to tell you. Although HOX+ and S3 have the same screen size, for the PIE to activate you just need to increase the activation area width. Just thought of installing Pie again after a while of not using it and just remembered. Now it's working fine
I remember there was a small bug of the activation area width being reset everytime you open the app if I can remember correctly. That or everytime you press on the activation width area. Can't really remember but my point is, while using the app if it suddenly doesnt appear anymore just increase the width again and it will work.
Sorry it took me a while to reply since I couldn't really remember
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Ghand0ur said:
Oh yeah I forgot to tell you. Although HOX+ and S3 have the same screen size, for the PIE to activate you just need to increase the activation area width. Just thought of installing Pie again after a while of not using it and just remembered. Now it's working fine
I remember there was a small bug of the activation area width being reset everytime you open the app if I can remember correctly. That or everytime you press on the activation width area. Can't really remember but my point is, while using the app if it suddenly doesnt appear anymore just increase the width again and it will work.
Sorry it took me a while to reply since I couldn't really remember
Sent from my HTC One x+ using XDA developers app
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Thanks, now it shows up. I'll mess around with it and let you know what I think.

Question App locked and won't close

So I use Indeed a lot asI am looking for new employment. But when I go to close out all the apps open Indeed has a lock icon and will not close out. How do I disable this lock so I can close indeed fully to conserve battery power?
Dvegaa said:
So I use Indeed a lot asI am looking for new employment. But when I go to close out all the apps open Indeed has a lock icon and will not close out. How do I disable this lock so I can close indeed fully to conserve battery power?
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Tap the square icon next to the home button (I know it's Back, and Home, but i'm not sure the name of the square button).
On the list of open apps, touch and hold on the task you want to lock/unlock for a second or two. A dialog will open with the option to lock/unlock the app.
My phone is a little wonky. When I bought the phone it never had the back, home and square buttons on the bottom of the screen. I am including another screenshot to show you what I see when I am on the home screen.
I figured it out. although this phone is an android the OS works similar to an Apple or an iPhone Man Am I glad this is only a temporary phone. I despise iPhones.
Dvegaa said:
I figured it out. although this phone is an android the OS works similar to an Apple or an iPhone Man Am I glad this is only a temporary phone. I despise iPhones.
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You can change it in settings for your future android phones, by the way

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