3rd party apps - Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is there anything like the iPhones app store on the hero?

yes, the android market
http://www.android.com/

Irregular Programming said:
yes, the android market
http://www.android.com/
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Well there is something but it's nothing like the iPhones app store which I love on my iPod touch. Looks like there is a bit of a down side to having the hero. I still want it over the iPhone, not so sure I would be if I didn't have the itouch

they got million apps out there..
try checking out:
http://www.androlib.com/

robboy said:
Well there is something but it's nothing like the iPhones app store which I love on my iPod touch. Looks like there is a bit of a down side to having the hero. I still want it over the iPhone, not so sure I would be if I didn't have the itouch
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What does the appstore have that the android market doesn't?

Irregular Programming said:
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What does the appstore have that the android market doesn't?
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Lots of iPhone owners thinking they're better than everyone else?
Seriously, as I understand it - there are more apps in the appstore, but a LARGE number are not that great and/or themes and skins etc.
The Android Market has its share of rubbish too, but the two stores seem to be more or less the same in terms of the types of decent stable useful apps available for a range of tasks. On the whole, prices also seem similar. Mechanisms to buy are both very simple and "on the go" so no real difference except for preference.
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Might be switching to WP7... But apps

Hey guys. So I'm thinking of going to windows phone, i like it and all but there doesn't seem to be a lot of apps? and a lot of them cost a lot, like fruit ninja is 2.50 compared to 69p on Android.
Any help? Are there a lot of good free apps?
JccageX2 said:
Hey guys. So I'm thinking of going to windows phone, i like it and all but there doesn't seem to be a lot of apps? and a lot of them cost a lot, like fruit ninja is 2.50 compared to 69p on Android.
Any help? Are there a lot of good free apps?
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Ah, my friend, if you want a phone that syncs with your social networks, email and phone contacts, along with simplicity and ease with no hassle. A Windows phone is for you.
If you want a phone purely for apps and games, I would recommend an iPod Touch 4G, obviously if TomTom and GPS matters, then I would recommend an iPhone.
If you want to gain easy root access and modify the brains out of your phone, then I recommend Android. It's a big decision to make.
I chose Windows, after using all three OS's, and yes I'm a casual gamer, I love tweaking, but I don't even wish to tweak this phone, as it's so pretty.
As for apps, they have many, games most definitely cost more than all three OS's. Hope that helps.
JccageX2 said:
Hey guys. So I'm thinking of going to windows phone, i like it and all but there doesn't seem to be a lot of apps? and a lot of them cost a lot, like fruit ninja is 2.50 compared to 69p on Android.
Any help? Are there a lot of good free apps?
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If you are coming from Android, you will be disappointed at the prices of Windows Phone apps and especially, games. They are exorbitant in comparison.
Windows Phone is a young OS, which is trying to catch up quickly. Perhaps wait for another 6 months or so before you switch.
I too was in the same position 2 months ago.
I think the real question should be, what apps do you use? It's easy to look at the three marketplaces and say that the Windows Marketplace is lacking in apps. But do you really need that many apps? Switching to WP7 made me cut down on installing crapps. I found a good alternative for every core iOS app that I was using and in the end am very happy with what the marketplace has to offer.
The only apps I'm still waiting for are my banking apps (Chase, mainly for depositing checks, and Viber/Skype).
Most of the essentials are catered for. There's Youtube (unofficial ones are better), IMDB, various Twitter clients. You barely need a Facebook app because it's built into the OS.
Games are annoyingly overpriced, and many of the titles I've tried have not been updated for Mango so run at a choppy 30fps. Even Angry Birds is not as smooth as Android or iOS and it's a simple sideways scroller. There are a few great games though, Rise of Glory and Jet Car Stunts are brilliant. Plus some excellent free titles like NinjaBoy.
The apps I miss the most are Google Earth (and Skymap) and there is no native Amazon app anywhere except the US.
Coming from Android background, one thing I find most annoying about Windows Phone is the lack of a true dialer replacement (I believe this is due to OS limitation). I am currently using the paid version of 7Dialer but it does not really replace the default dialer completely. Missed calls are not captured, contacts don't synchronize in real-time, slower launching time and a few other issues.
The same goes with keyboard replacement. Being accustomed to the intelligence of SwiftKey, the built-in Windows Phone keyboard feels very inadequate in comparison.
CervezaPorFavor said:
Coming from Android background, one thing I find most annoying about Windows Phone is the lack of a true dialer replacement (I believe this is due to OS limitation). I am currently using the paid version of 7Dialer but it does not really replace the default dialer completely. Missed calls are not captured, contacts don't synchronize in real-time, slower launching time and a few other issues.
The same goes with keyboard replacement. Being accustomed to the intelligence of SwiftKey, the built-in Windows Phone keyboard feels very inadequate in comparison.
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I agree. I really miss is 3rd party keyboards. I too use Swiftkey on my Android devices. The WP keyboard is too small.
I also miss 3rd party Messaging apps. Need QuickReply
I've been through Android, and I'm on an iPhone now. Just wanan try WP7 because it looks brilliant, but I need apps, and I'm not paying a fiver for sims lol
JccageX2 said:
I've been through Android, and I'm on an iPhone now. Just wanan try WP7 because it looks brilliant, but I need apps, and I'm not paying a fiver for sims lol
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If games are what you're after, no point switching to the WP, at least for now.
Think I've solved my problem. Gonna get a 3GS as well as have this phone. It looks to brilliant to not have.
Just asking, can you jailbreak the device yet?
JccageX2 said:
Think I've solved my problem. Gonna get a 3GS as well as have this phone. It looks to brilliant to not have.
Just asking, can you jailbreak the device yet?
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No jailbreak/root yet. Basically, you are stuck with the official stuff for now.

Future of Tablet Gaming

So, I bit the bullet and bought a Prime, I had talked myself out of it about 9 million times, was going to buy a used one from chin-a-ling (sorry mate) but my fiancee pushed me, and pushed me and I finally bought one... I am in love.
But the title says it all, I am wondering what the future is going to be. My hope is to end up being able to play Portal on this thing one day. With the fact that Bethesda has mentioned possible tablet ports of older titles, Valve has always been one to examine all unique possibilities. It would be incredible to be Chell running through the hall way, aiming and then tapping where I want the portal
Anyways, what does everyone else think? Looking forward to seeing what the major companies might do? Games you hope to see ported or even developed as a standalone counterpart from your favorite series?
loveableterrorepic4g said:
So, I bit the bullet and bought a Prime, I had talked myself out of it about 9 million times, was going to buy a used one from chin-a-ling (sorry mate) but my fiancee pushed me, and pushed me and I finally bought one... I am in love.
But the title says it all, I am wondering what the future is going to be. My hope is to end up being able to play Portal on this thing one day. With the fact that Bethesda has mentioned possible tablet ports of older titles, Valve has always been one to examine all unique possibilities. It would be incredible to be Chell running through the hall way, aiming and then tapping where I want the portal
Anyways, what does everyone else think? Looking forward to seeing what the major companies might do? Games you hope to see ported or even developed as a standalone counterpart from your favorite series?
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I think tablet gaming especially on iOS has a bright future. Some of iOS's best exclusives have trickled their way to Android. But there is still a lot to be desired on the Android platform as far as games go. Currently EPIC is making fantastic games for iOS through ChAIR Entertainment. Hopefully they will one day embrace Android.
Well ios has infinity blade and usually gets games a bit earlier. That's about it IMHO.
Android has amazing emulators and most importantly full gamepad support.
There are also some really nice looking tegra3 exclusives coming. Definately infinity blade lvl of graphics.
I'd say the future is bright. Me personally I'm hoping for point and click adventures getting big on tablets. They perfect for touch control.
Gaming on tablets and Prime will be SICK! Just watch. Already amazed at the types of games I'm playing already. And I don't play b.s. ones like angry birds or whatever. Lol hardcore gamer here.
I used to be a hardcore gamer before I joined the Navy but after I got out I haven't had time with school, but I am a huge Portal/Half Life Fan, as well as a few of the other artsy FPS games e.g. Mirrors Edge. I KNOW the Tegra 3 can handle it, it is a matter of whether or not the big guys will believe in the future of tablet/mobile gaming. It is a growing segment of serious gamers, and I think that tablet ownership would increase as games become more innovative/complex.
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Me personally I'm hoping for point and click adventures getting big on tablets. They perfect for touch control.
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like straight up Kings Quest Status? a little bit of The Secret of Monkey Island?
stretchwookie said:
like straight up Kings Quest Status? a little bit of The Secret of Monkey Island?
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<3 monkey island :-D
clouds5 said:
<3 monkey island :-D
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Your dream come true
stretchwookie said:
Your dream come true
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And it works like a charm. It never ceases to amaze me that the first time I played day of the tentacle I had to clear my 40MB(!) hdd before I could install it, was supplied om an enormous amount of floppy disks, took ages to install and now I can play it on a apparatus small enough to fit in my pocket (in case of my galaxy nexus)...
They need to bring the Broken sword series to Android. I have both games on Ipad n loved them. Like a touch point n click. Graphics n storyline is very good.
I installed onlive and am playing all sorts of pc games.
It works great with the Xbox 360 controller.
Onlive? Huh, I'll check it out! Thanks for the idea!
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OnLive is not available in Canada. Boo-urns.
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OnLive is not available in Canada. Boo-urns.
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There's an app or method to get apps not available in your area or whatever. I forgot what it was. I would think as long as you have a decent to fast internet connection, Onlive should work fine for you. Plus its a free app so technically someone could upload the free apk for you to use. Worth a shot.
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There's an app or method to get apps not available in your area or whatever. I forgot what it was. I would think as long as you have a decent to fast internet connection, Onlive should work fine for you. Plus its a free app so technically someone could upload the free apk for you to use. Worth a shot.
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im not so sure he has a problem locating an apk, as he does signing up for service? maybe im wrong...
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im not so sure he has a problem locating an apk, as he does signing up for service? maybe im wrong...
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that wouldn't even matter. he just make a free account then sign in. there's nothing in the app that's esteeming location, I don't think. I would think as long as he make an account, which is just providing email address and making a user name, he would be good. worth a try. nothing to lose.

Abysmal number of apps for Android Tablets!!!

I've been trying to figure out how many apps there are for Android tablets and it has been really hard to find out, which in itself hints that it ain't good. But the best estimates I could find online pin it at around 1000-2000 apps. Didn't iPad 1 release with more than that? What is wrong with Android? I sincerely believe that this OS is better with its Widgets and customizations and all. But does it not bother you that after a whole year we have so few apps? I may as well go for an iPad at this rate. I mean i have all the apps i need now, but still some apps are meant for the phone, like Facebook.... still I feel it is worth investing in a device that actually has proper support... you are paying $500, shouldn't you expect more then just thousands of apps? And don't argue that the new iPad with its hi res display will have few apps. That is only temporary... it too will soon surpass the android tablet app tally...
Took me 5 seconds to google that-
http://phandroid.com/2011/03/14/android-app-count-rapidly-gaining-on-ios-chart/
and its year old, so the number is bigger by now.
Android still has plenty of great apps. ICS is the merging of phone and tablet apps. So there won't be a need for either. Instead it'll be a universal app that would work on wither and if its tablet, then it'll take advantage of it.
I have over 200 apps on my Ipad. I have just as many on my prime and have found majority of my Ipad apps n AAndroid and have them on my prime now. So there's still slot of apps out there. Tablet only apps, yes Android has less but its steadily growing. Phone apps already caught up to apples.
Plus you won't catch many here wanting to switch to IOS over apps. Especially not me. I've already did the Ipad experience for 2 years n glad I came to android. I'm satisfied with what's available. It isn't like you can install all of them at once. Android has great apps n always could use more. But Android users generally know the deal when it comes to the apps. Apple needs apps to do things android does out the box by itself. My Ipad has alot of really good apps on it but I have them all ln my prime also. Majority being better on Android. So expect your poll to show love for Android and its ecosystem. Most try to stay away from limited features n capabilities of Ipad. Depends on what floats your boat the best.
That is Android Market on the whole. I've been talking about tablet optimized apps.
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Android still has plenty of great apps. ICS is the merging of phone and tablet apps. So there won't be a need for either. Instead it'll be a universal app that would work on wither and if its tablet, then it'll take advantage of it.
I have over 200 apps on my Ipad. I have just as many on my prime and have found majority of my Ipad apps n AAndroid and have them on my prime now. So there's still slot of apps out there. Tablet only apps, yes Android has less but its steadily growing. Phone apps already caught up to apples.
Plus you won't catch many here wanting to switch to IOS over apps. Especially not me. I've already did the Ipad experience for 2 years n glad I came to android. I'm satisfied with what's available. It isn't like you can install all of them at once. Android has great apps n always could use more. But Android users generally know the deal when it comes to the apps. Apple needs apps to do things android does out the box by itself. My Ipad has alot of really good apps on it but I have them all ln my prime also. Majority being better on Android. So expect your poll to show love for Android and its ecosystem. Most try to stay away from limited features n capabilities of Ipad. Depends on what floats your boat the best.
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All in all, it would be comforting to see a good recent estimate regarding android "tablet" Apps. As of now, I have apps to watch movies, socialize, a great browser, to read PDFs and eBooks and to take notes. I still feel that quality is lacking and I hope what you said about ICS unifying things will help devs dev more. But it bugs me that say Facebook has no tablet app, etc. Thankfully I don't game a lot though!
READ up on Ice Cream Sandwich Android version and see what its supposed to mean. Soon there will be no more need for tablet optimized apps as all will be optimized for whatever device its being used on.
If you want to get an Ipad that's cool, but I hope you didn't think most here would vote in favor of getting one. You will see soon most are happy with Android. Yes it could always get better but still love it regardless. I'd never switch back to Ipad. Seen so much more with Android now. Going back to IOS would be moving backwards in features and capabilities of a tablet.
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litetaker said:
All in all, it would be comforting to see a good recent estimate regarding android "tablet" Apps. As of now, I have apps to watch movies, socialize, a great browser, to read PDFs and eBooks and to take notes. I still feel that quality is lacking and I hope what you said about ICS unifying things will help devs dev more. But it bugs me that say Facebook has no tablet app, etc. Thankfully I don't game a lot though!
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I always see people complain about Facebook on android. Why? I have it and works great for me. I have like 3-4 different Facebook apps on my Ipad. Plus here is a reality check. The official Facebook app on Ipad isn't even the best one. It took them so long to bring it out that the 3rd party ones are the best now. The official app sux on Ipad and is buggy still. I have it and other ones on Ipad. You just have to search more. I have tons of great tablet apps on prime.
Here's a tip. If you want to look for android tablet app only marketplace, look for an app called Tablified. Its an marketplace that showcases all tablet only or optimized apps for Android. Its really good and apps must pass strict guidelines to be considered to be viewed in that app. Its a free app. A MEMBER here actually created it. It has a great look to it also.
demandarin said:
Android still has plenty of great apps. ICS is the merging of phone and tablet apps. So there won't be a need for either. Instead it'll be a universal app that would work on wither and if its tablet, then it'll take advantage of it.
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Unfortunately, until we see many more ICS devices, developers won't focus on it and thus we'll not see apps that make good use of tablets because of it. It's true that right now the number of really good tablet apps is low, and it's frustrating. I'd think that 5-10 million Honeycomb or ICS tablets in the wild would be enough to generate more developer interest.
I honestly think developers are gun shy about spending the time on tablet apps because the press on the Android tablet market has been so universally horrible (and the hype on the iPad so universally and nauseatingly high). Those developers who've made tablet-optimized apps have done a great job with it, but really the iPad has a HUGE, HUGE advantage here. Even I find myself sometimes wanting to switch because of all the excellent iPad apps, and I can't stand Apple.
You can find a good tablet app for a most typical uses, and in many cases the phone apps work fine (because they scale better in many cases than iPhone apps scale to the iPad), but it remains a limitation. It's also another area where Google has done a bad job, either of making it easy to make tablet-optimized apps (I don't know either way) or of providing incentives for developers to make them.
I really don't get the fascination and need for all these "apps". I hate that word too, sounds so gay.
Give me a good browser, some good media players and you're pretty much good to go.
There is no need for a Facebook program at all. No need for XDA program, a Twitter program. You don't use them on your Windows desktop do you? The browser is all you need for all that.
I just don't get it. I don't even have one homescreen filled on my tablet.
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That is Android Market on the whole. I've been talking about tablet optimized apps.
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Android doesn't longer have seperate Apps. Since ICS and fragments well written Apps will deliver an optimized layout for phones, tablets as well as Google TV. One App for all, that was the approach of Android and that's why the Google Play / Market doesn't have an extra Tablet section (beside the editors choice for tablets).
In the last years there was really a lack of good apps for tablets, but most of the new Apps make use of this new fragments and offer a great tablet ui.
New 8track app, tweetcaster, new official TED app, Astrid since their last update - just to mention a few.
In my opinion this will be the first serious year for Android Tablets and Apps which was also the reason for me to finally buy the Prime.
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Android doesn't longer have seperate Apps. Since ICS and fragments well written Apps will deliver an optimized layout for phones, tablets as well as Google TV. One App for all, that was the approach of Android and that's why the Google Play / Market doesn't have an extra Tablet section (beside the editors choice for tablets).
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One think I've always wondered is: do fragments work on Android versions previous to ICS? Because if they do, then I wonder why more developers aren't using them. If they only work with ICS, then it makes sense--ICS is still only about 1% of the total Android population, and only on the Prime and Xoom in tablets.
And seriously, it should be MUCH easier to find tablet-optimized apps. While there are a handful of decent tablet-optimized apps, they're relatively hard to find and that fact alone contributes to the perception (real or imagined) that this is a real weakness of Android tablets.
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Here's a good reference for tablet apps...
http://www.tablified.com/
And yes, many popular apps do suck on a tablet and will continue to until ICS reaches critical mass.
litetaker said:
I mean i have all the apps i need now
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What's the problem?
I guess the question is what do you want to do with your Prime that would be fulfilled by an app? Or somewhat sarcastically; what could you do app-wise with an iPad that you want to do with your Prime? I suggest asking if your searching has yielded nothing suitable.
While it's fun to have lots of apps available, what if they are all crap?
Bye.
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Well, I got a solution. Buy an ipad 3 and a tf700 later in the year. All problems have been solved. Except for money.
jdeoxys said:
Well, I got a solution. Buy an ipad 3 and a tf700 later in the year. All problems have been solved. Except for money.
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You got banned? Just recently?
Developer here...
Even with older OS versions the only difference between a phone and tablet app is the layout. Android already has some pretty killer tools for handling that. ICS makes it easier with some new tools (fragments), but by no means is it necessary. Few devs will target ICS for awhile. There are just too many older devices.
So... the biggest inhibitor is time. It takes a great deal of work to develop an app that makes both screen sizes happy. It also takes some practice. Since Android is behind compared to iOS, and the Android tablet market is smaller, we just have to wait. People have to learn how to take advantage of all this extra space.
By the way, its not really any easier to develop an iOS tablet app. In fact, even using the older versions of Android, its easier to deal with different layouts than on iOS.
I think as long as theres fragmentation most app devs are not gonna put as much effort with android. Why when there are so many ipad users and they only have to develop for 1 single platform and can concentrate on making it better rather than concentrating on making it more compatible across every different android devices. ICS was supposed to be the answer but not all ICS compatible app will work on all ICS devices. Then google is supposedly now gonna come out with jelly bean? Whats gonna happen then? So if i was a dev right now I wouldnt want to develop even for ICS not knowing what road block jelly bean will bring when apple is more guaranteed. The return profit is just not as good on android tablets right now. Until we match apples ecosystem I dont think we will ever have the benifits that ipad users have.
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Yes, why?
10char
facepalm...
Do you remember when blueray players first came out, you could only get a handfull of movies for it? and now you can get damn near everything in blueray.
Remember a year or so ago when there was like, maybe 5 tablets total on the market? and now you cant turn the corner without finding yet another manufacturer of them?
Tablets are the fastest growing consumer trend in north america giving Apple a good run for their money. Considering this boom in the last year or so, developers are scrambling to try to support everything and find standards for how graphics will be displayed, etc. (which is why theres so many different versions of the same gameloft games)
Give it a few more months if you cant find what your looking for, it will be here then.
Also considering that ICS is still relatively new and developers need to make sure their apps work well on it before they release it, test, etc. its not surprising that there is limited support for ICS. If you want something thats tried, tested, and true then get the TF101. If you want to live on the edge like with the 201 then you have to expect some bugs along the way.
Give it time, it will come. Guaranteed.

Quantity of iPad Apps vs Nexus 10 Apps

The number of tablet apps designed for the iPad is much greater than those designed for the Nexus 10. However, in some cases the Nexus 10 doesn't need an app to do the job better than the iPad.
For example, trading on the CMCMarkets Web site needs Flash which is available on Windows or Android browsers but not on the Apple browser. Therefore, a seperate app is required on the iPad to trade on CMCMarkets and the one available is not as good for trading using the Windows or Android browsers.
So, although the iPad has more tablet designed apps than the Nexus 10 some of them are to compensate for not having Flash.
I'm all Android, but iPad's app ecosystem is great, even if they don't have flash.
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Actually many apps are created on iOS because it lacks Flash, but that's no excuse for developers not to create them for Android, especially now that Flash is officially off Android. But you can access very much on Nexus 10 through a flash-supported browser, that is a minimum for me before buying a $500 device.
Is there a browser BTW which allows splitscreen, or one that has a large screen widget to use on desktop?
locoboi187 said:
I'm all Android, but iPad's app ecosystem is great, even if they don't have flash.
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The problem with the iPad, for me (and i owned one briefly before i sold it,Wifi iPad2 16GB) is that the apps cost more than the Android equivalents sometimes and sometimes an app is free on Android but you need to pay for it on IOS.
The iPad apps are great when they are tablet optimised, there are more of them, but if you get an app that's not optimized unlike Android where it fills the screen, the app stays phone sized on the iPad, which is just weird.
Then when you add in a crap keyboard, no widgets (this was a biggie for me) and a restrictive ecosystem it ended up being sold.
Which was great as it helped with the cost of my just ordered Nexus 10.
Each to their own.
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The problem with the iPad, for me (and i owned one briefly before i sold it,Wifi iPad2 16GB) is that the apps cost more than the Android equivalents sometimes and sometimes an app is free on Android but you need to pay for it on IOS.
The iPad apps are great when they are tablet optimised, there are more of them, but if you get an app that's not optimized unlike Android where it fills the screen, the app stays phone sized on the iPad, which is just weird.
Then when you add in a crap keyboard, no widgets (this was a biggie for me) and a restrictive ecosystem it ended up being sold.
Which was great as it helped with the cost of my just ordered Nexus 10.
Each to their own.
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One of the great benifits of Android is that you can change it to suit yourself. For example, I love the Hackers keyboard with the row of numbers on view like the Galaxy Note and the easy access to the other characters using the shift key.
Gaugerer said:
One of the great benifits of Android is that you can change it to suit yourself. For example, I love the Hackers keyboard with the row of numbers on view like the Galaxy Note and the easy access to the other characters using the shift key.
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Yeah, but i also think its one of its weaknesses for the average joe, the iPad is simple, Android can be confusing due to the number of options.
I hoping what I saw from Skype 3.0 yesterday, could be the start of developers taking android tablets more seriously...
I have read that there is also the added benefit that app devs for android don't have to re-optimize their apps for tablets (resolution etc. like many devs had to do with the release of the retina iPad AND the original release of the ipad with supporting the larger screen size) apparently all the apps are able to scale up resolution without having to re-optimize...at least I thought I read that somewhere!
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I have read that there is also the added benefit that app devs for android don't have to re-optimize their apps for tablets (resolution etc. like many devs had to do with the release of the retina iPad AND the original release of the ipad with supporting the larger screen size) apparently all the apps are able to scale up resolution without having to re-optimize...at least I thought I read that somewhere!
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Optimization =/= Upscaling
Upscaling is not exactly but somewhat like stretching everything to fit the screen. There are algorithms to make it look better but that's the basic idea.
Optimization is making images and an interface directly for a tablet. This won't need any stretching and such and will always look better.
The apps for Android tablets are bad.....they just are. If you deny that, then you're not interested in a serious conversation on the topic. You're just biased towards Android to the point where you will make any excuse possible to make it sound better than it is.
I love Android as and OS, but Android tablets are just not worth it at this point. Apps like:
- ESPN Scorecenter
- Ebay
- Pandora
- Chase Mobile
- Amazon Mobile (doesn't even exist for Android tablets yet)
- Facebook
SUCK on Android tablets. And these are all FREE
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The apps for Android tablets are bad.....they just are. If you deny that, then you're not interested in a serious conversation on the topic. You're just biased towards Android to the point where you will make any excuse possible to make it sound better than it is.
I love Android as and OS, but Android tablets are just not worth it at this point. Apps like:
- ESPN Scorecenter
- Ebay
- Pandora
- Chase Mobile
- Amazon Mobile (doesn't even exist for Android tablets yet)
- Facebook
SUCK on Android tablets. And these are all FREE
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Or you just don't care about a single one of the apps mentioned. Okay, I do use eBay for notifications, but I couldn't care less about its look.
mva5580 said:
The apps for Android tablets are bad.....they just are. If you deny that, then you're not interested in a serious conversation on the topic. You're just biased towards Android to the point where you will make any excuse possible to make it sound better than it is.
I love Android as and OS, but Android tablets are just not worth it at this point. Apps like:
- ESPN Scorecenter
- Ebay
- Pandora
- Chase Mobile
- Amazon Mobile (doesn't even exist for Android tablets yet)
- Facebook
SUCK on Android tablets. And these are all FREE
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- ESPN Scorecenter - Don't care
- Ebay - Don't care
- Pandora - Only use it on my phone
- Chase Mobile - I use the web site
- Amazon Mobile (doesn't even exist for Android tablets yet) - I use the web site
- Facebook - It's good enough for what it does
I'd take quality (Android) over quantity (iOS). iOS has a ton of useless crapplets. Can't do without Groove IP, Lecture Notes, Droid48, Google Maps/Navigation/Streetview/Gmail/Docs/Translate/YouTube, OnLive and many more.
mi7chy said:
I'd take quality (Android) over quantity (iOS). iOS has a ton of useless crapplets. Can't do without Groove IP, Lecture Notes, Droid48, Google Maps/Navigation/Streetview/Gmail/Docs/Translate/YouTube, OnLive and many more.
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That makes absolutely no sense. iOS and Android both have very high quality apps and both have some pretty useless apps as well. For every app you listed (probably with the exception of maps, LOL), there's a high quality iOS equivalent app for it.
Anybody with half a brain could find an app to suit their needs on both systems.
Randomwalker said:
Or you just don't care about a single one of the apps mentioned. Okay, I do use eBay for notifications, but I couldn't care less about its look.
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Techie2012 said:
- ESPN Scorecenter - Don't care
- Ebay - Don't care
- Pandora - Only use it on my phone
- Chase Mobile - I use the web site
- Amazon Mobile (doesn't even exist for Android tablets yet) - I use the web site
- Facebook - It's good enough for what it does
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This is exactly why we won't see that many tablet apps. People get so worked up when an app isn't holo themed but no one cares about having tablet apps. Android users just don't care and when users don't care, developers don't care. When folks start getting as sensitive to the lack of tablet optimization in an app as they do with an app that's not holo themed, that's when we'll start seeing more tablet apps.
I care and I make it a point to contact developers to ask them about a tablet version of their app. Be the change you want to see. Start caring and devs will follow.
-email developers and ask them for a tablet app
-let your voices be heard! Leave a comment and don't be afraid to dock them a couple stars for the lack of tablet optimization.
-don't be cheap!! Reward developers who taken the time to optimize their apps. I think the second posters in this thread said apps were too expensive or something. Seriously. Apps cost less than a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
This mentality that stretched out apps are just as good is absurd. People love to use the argument that stretching an app is better than what the iPad is doing. While that may be true in some cases, iPad users rarely have to worry about such things. Any app that you'd likely use on iPad will probably have an optimized version for it.
I know this may not be the most serious thing in the world but honestly, complaining about it in forums isn't going to do anything. Be proactive. Let developers know what we need and if there are enough people who want it, it will surely get done.
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The apps for Android tablets are bad.....they just are. If you deny that, then you're not interested in a serious conversation on the topic. You're just biased towards Android to the point where you will make any excuse possible to make it sound better than it is.
I love Android as and OS, but Android tablets are just not worth it at this point. Apps like:
- ESPN Scorecenter
- Ebay
- Pandora
- Chase Mobile
- Amazon Mobile (doesn't even exist for Android tablets yet)
- Facebook
SUCK on Android tablets. And these are all FREE
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I don't think anyone will deny that Apple has more tablet apps. I will disagree that android apps are bad. I don't think your assessment is fair.
I've never had problems with a few of those apps that you listed. The others I haven't used.
Saying android tablets aren't worth it because a few apps on Android aren't as good is only true to you. I don't use my tablets only for those apps, and when I need those apps, they are there they get the job done just the same.
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Anybody with half a brain could find an app to suit their needs on both systems.
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For anyone with half a brain I do highly recommend iOS devices with its limitations and restrictiveness. Even Apple's cofounder Steve Wozniak commented that it's good for mentally challenged people:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/14/even-woz-thinks-the-android-bests-the-iphone.html
"...people who are just scared of computers altogether and don’t want to use them. The iPhone is the least frightening thing. For that kind of person who is scared of complexity..."
The thing is if google wants devs to develop more tablet optimized apps they should start by polishing their own.
Just look at the horrible compressed music art in the play music app, i ****ing hate how it downsamples whatever your album art is, now look at the album art on the iPad music player, the full res art looks great. I have ordered my 32gb Nexus 10 but this seriously ticks me off as i own an iPad 3 and a TP. Don't get me started wih the clock app.
Google's own Google+ app works better on the iPad3 than the Nexus 10
ridiculous...
Could not agree more I have a note 2 for phone and ipad 3 for tablet. I also have a nexus 7 and android tablet suck in the app department big time it's not even funny. Ipad has it beat by a long shot and this is why ipad is so popular. Plus all developers concentrate on iOS and ipad before they even consider android. It's a shame I wish they were at least equal but don't matter what specs android tablet have if they don't have the apps majority of your normal users will not buy it period.
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Microsoft - no more excuses of Beta apps

I am so displeased with MS. It seems they hide behind all the apps by saying they are beta. WP7.5 was frustrating enough with lack of skype for a year even after they bought it. Between skype and the miserable version of pdf they created one could only wonder how serious they actually are. It would be nice to have an android app so we could have apps that work. Seriously MS stop hiring sweat shop kids to develop your apps and invest in some proper programmers. I don't want a repeat of WP7.5
Yeah, the past couple of days I have seriously considered going back to Android. WP8 is missing some pretty key features that I could ignore if there were apps to fill the holes, there are none... No wifi sync? Unable to "delete" music from Xbox music, even though it's no longer on my device(I used to have Music Pass and the music I downloaded still shows up)? Media volume and Ringtone volume are shared? that seems like a no brainer. The camera, while the overall picture quality is good, I find the colors to be very inaccurate(not WP8, but still a gripe). A lot of my "live tile" apps do not update anymore, maybe the app devs fault? The desktop sync program is almost useless, why can't Zune be used?
So, I am probably gonna try and trade my 920 for an Android... I miss my Nexus
Vangink said:
I am so displeased with MS. It seems they hide behind all the apps by saying they are beta.
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You must despise google.
schettj said:
You must despise google.
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Or Apple with their Maps app.
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Honestly, I have bought my wife a chinese phone called Oppo. It was slick phone and light, 6mm thick running Android 4.3. I didn't mind android but I perferred the enviroment of 7.5, much cleaner and simpilar. I did not start this poste to talk about Android or Iphone though, I bought a 920 hoping that WP8 was an improvement. But some key apps i use on regular basis created by MS are junk. The point is, if the apps are so much better on other platforms why can't MS do it on theirs especally Skype, come on! I just hope this post opens eyes of MS to begin to deliver a better experience now not in 1 year. On good note, I do give them the respect of Bing Translater the camera feature comes in handy, and people are amazed when i show them.
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Yeah, the past couple of days I have seriously considered going back to Android. WP8 is missing some pretty key features that I could ignore if there were apps to fill the holes, there are none... No wifi sync? Unable to "delete" music from Xbox music, even though it's no longer on my device(I used to have Music Pass and the music I downloaded still shows up)? Media volume and Ringtone volume are shared? that seems like a no brainer. The camera, while the overall picture quality is good, I find the colors to be very inaccurate(not WP8, but still a gripe). A lot of my "live tile" apps do not update anymore, maybe the app devs fault? The desktop sync program is almost useless, why can't Zune be used?
So, I am probably gonna try and trade my 920 for an Android... I miss my Nexus
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You can delete music from xbox by pressing on the track long enough then remove it.
It works. It seriously does.
Vangink said:
I just hope this post opens eyes of MS to begin to deliver a better experience now not in 1 year.
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I don't think Microsoft monitors this forum
And I am quite sure people are working very hard to deliver a better experience as fast as they possibly can. You can help too, download the SDK and start coding.
Vangink said:
Honestly, I have bought my wife a chinese phone called Oppo. It was slick phone and light, 6mm thick running Android 4.3. I didn't mind android but I perferred the enviroment of 7.5, much cleaner and simpilar. I did not start this poste to talk about Android or Iphone though, I bought a 920 hoping that WP8 was an improvement. But some key apps i use on regular basis created by MS are junk. The point is, if the apps are so much better on other platforms why can't MS do it on theirs especally Skype, come on! I just hope this post opens eyes of MS to begin to deliver a better experience now not in 1 year. On good note, I do give them the respect of Bing Translater the camera feature comes in handy, and people are amazed when i show them.
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I bet they're even more amazed at 4.3!
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ScooterG said:
I bet they're even more amazed at 4.3!
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My bad, 4.0 really not a big android guy. I had phone for a week before passing it over to my wife. At least her skype works in background.
To schettj's reply, I am hopping that your optimism is true. I would be closer to doing laundry at my hotel then developing a version of PDF that works. That's what I shelled out 600 bucks for.

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