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of the best phones out there no matter where i go it grabs more attention than the iphone. even thought its not as useful i can get alot done and meet more people. anyone can get an iphone few can get the athena . and i thank everyone here for their help and their roms
temokk said:
of the best phones out there no matter where i go it grabs more attention than the iphone. even thought its not as useful i can get alot done and meet more people. anyone can get an iphone few can get the athena . and i thank everyone here for their help and their roms
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You are right Brother! Where ever I go, people keep wandering wat huge phone I was using but when they saw how wonderful to have large screen view they were amaze and was asking where I got it cos you can never fine any even on the auction or ebay.
I too had iphone before switching to Athena. Iphone cant do the very basic thing i need is my office files and the pdf files. Syncrionizing my office mail is a breeze which I only read on my train ride home.
No matters how , my Athena will be the last phone cum pda cum camera cum ipod cum video player that i will ever have.
It aint heavy, its my buddy!!!!!
I second you on that guys.....Been changing device and finally found this phone and so far really fulfill my needs....The big screen is just amazzziiingggg............Not to mention the power we had in this advantage....
Ditto, ditto, ditto. I've had mine 15 months now and I don't see anything, even "coming soon", that will be able to replace it.
I, too, still get "what is that" when I pull it out in public. A few months ago I was at the AT&T store due to a problem with my wife's phone and when I pulled my phone out every employee gathered around to stare and ask questions. I'd say its pretty hard to impress a cell phone store employee - and the Athena does it.
yup the reason i posted
every where u turn everyone has now an iphone. and they think they are the sh!!!. i know some of us have seen it. but as soon as i pull out my x7500 i get questions like what is it. no matter where i go i always get asked that and sometimes not to be rude i just say "me no speak ingles". the only draw back its not a phone where everyone in ur block has. it sometimes can get u detained like last week i went here in chicago to a federal building and the security guard pulled me aside after i put everthing on the tray to go thru the metal detector and kept asking what it was i showed the moronsky for 5 minutes and he said it wasnt so i had to make a call from it just to show him.
i think it was cell phone discrimination ;-).
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yup
I like my 7501 too.
I have an input though, if only we could get our advantage that 10000% works in VGA with full compability and free of bugs. That'll be awesome.........
congpay said:
I have an input though, if only we could get our advantage that 10000% works in VGA with full compability and free of bugs. That'll be awesome.........
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And w/o GPS bugs, and fully uses the graphics processor...
3 days ago,I even changed brand a new Touch Diamond for old but still working great X7500, and I dont feel sorry.
Athena is device for me,it was only matter of time when I will posses it!
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3 days ago,I even changed brand a new Touch Diamond for old but still working great X7500, and I dont feel sorry.
Athena is device for me,it was only matter of time when I will posses it!
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I've got a Touch HD because it's more portable but I still use my athena for reading (which I do a lot) and office tasks. After the huge screen of the athena, any other device is a let-down, screenwise. (sighs)
I've got spare batteries for both devices and usually end up with both, but using the athena more. I can't get myself to get rid of it!
permanent!
It's true...
Which other device can sit on my desk, on my monitor stand, not take up any space, allow me to stay connected to Face book through app - msn with voice and instant pic send and also stay connected to my home PC through logmein all day
I connect to an RDP on one of our servers here and I have mouse + keyboard plugged in via USB - I dont even need a PC on my desk to work!
- and still be able to read it from more than 15 CM away.....
then let me take aGSM call when it comes in?
Then let me plug in USB gamepad and play SNES GBA? etc...
I have samsung Omnia HD as my main phone but, if I take a bag with me, Ameo comes along!
yarod, have you tried My Mobiler (www.mymobiler.com)? My Athena sits on my desk all day, too, and this app makes a 2nd mouse and keyboard unnecessary. Puts the Athena desktop right on your desktop monitor, and passes your mouse/keyboard through to the phone. Or, you can set it up so the Athena becomes an extended desktop space for your desktop, but I haven't found a good use for that yet.
I love this app.
temokk said:
of the best phones out there no matter where i go it grabs more attention than the iphone. even thought its not as useful i can get alot done and meet more people. anyone can get an iphone few can get the athena . and i thank everyone here for their help and their roms
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That part there is NOT correct. It is VERY useful.
Ciao!
again im a proud owner of the athena
every where i go in chicago i have yet to see another x7500. theres a lot of iphones out there and othet phones but im the only one with a nice viewable screen and lately alot of of people have those little cheap laptops with the 8 inch screen so all i do is sit next to them and pull out my athena with keyboard and all and all they do is stare. it still gets alot of attention
Ive had a htc touch and omnia since i got my Ameo but I still use the Ameo its still the preverable K9's testicales. Though I do love the Omnia, I take it every where as its slightly more portable. and very very stable. but it aint got a 5" screen. I pull that out and always everyone asks whats that.
ok so we all know that the htc leo has alot of cool features you can use on it and alot of its qaulity is unique. but unfortunatly it has lots of problems too. i so far has gotten 4 brand new htc hd2's and they all have bugs and problems within them like restarting by itself many times and freezes. tell me what u think?
I love the phone. But I also have very few freezes and have never had the phone reset itself.
I've never had a defective phone. I think a lot of it is things we do to them.
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I love the phone. But I also have very few freezes and have never had the phone reset itself.
I've never had a defective phone. I think a lot of it is things we do to them.
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Same here. The only time I get lockups or slow-downs are after I install certain apps.
Same here..............
Had mine since November and the only problems have been ones that Ive caused through too much tweaking.....
And a problem with T Mobiles original stock rom but that was T Mobiles fault not the HD2.......
LiL xSOULJAx said:
ok so we all know that the htc leo has alot of cool features you can use on it and alot of its qaulity is unique. but unfortunatly it has lots of problems too. i so far has gotten 4 brand new htc hd2's and they all have bugs and problems within them like restarting by itself many times and freezes. tell me what u think?
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The HD2 is a wonderful machine that gives you best performance and wonderful features.
Especially when u compares it to competitive products or the price paid.
I have HD2 , T-8585, since January and never had any freeze or self restart.
All problems I had never cased from the HD2 itself. They cased from installing soft wares which sometimes do not work properly with other soft wares. That was easily recovered with the assistance of nice guys here.
Some problems occurred from defective accessories such as croppy cheap usb-micro cable.
The HD2 is wonderful machine that can be easily converted and modified according to your needs and imagination.
Thanks for the great answers ! I think its just the T-Mobile Rom thats a complete piece of crap. Because I didnt even add anything or tweaked the first 2 phones i got and they still caused many problems within the first day no B/S. Another quick question dough, how much would it cost to buy and repair an htc hd2 LCD screen, because one of my phones screen cracked. Its not the glass outer part that broke but the inner screen.
I am agree with you all, it's a great phone fast-big screen-cool design, but....
It's worth to pay 450 euro for this phone now (AUG)?? I mean I can wait for the next generation (mabe hd3/NOV or DECEMBER) thaat will have more features like an S-AMOLED and mabe a hdmi cable, and all of that with +50 euro.
Do you know anything about new HTC phones that will be released and when, and it is worth to wait more??? Thank you!
I believe the hd2 is one of the best devices on the market. It's fast, it has wonderful features, and now it is capable of running more then one os. Even the stock winmo isn't bad if yu change the rom and don't care about downloading apps. I believe for tmo usa, the hd2 is hands down the best phone they have, other then the n1. And yes better then the samsung vibrant, which is supposed to b upgrade but doesn't even have a camera flash.my experience with samsung phones has been horrible. I don't even think froyo has been released for it. Even tho it's ported, I've been running froyo on my hd2 since late july. As for up coming phones, google htc vision aka g1 blaze. 1GHz processor, medium sized screen, slide out keyboard and android. Basically the first legit replacement for the original g1. Much better then that mediocre mytouch slide 3g. The choice is yours.personally I love my hd2, but yu might just want to wait alittle while longer.
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Btw the htc vision should b coming out before the years end. Also there is a rumored hd3 coming soon that is supposed to run wimo7. Decision, decisions lol best thing about the hd2, runs winmo 6.xx, runs linux, runs android, and most likely will run winmo7(I'm sure someone will figure out how to port it) what other phone can do that! Lol decisions decisions
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i think its a Great phone, i love everything about it slim design customisation element big screen but unfortunately it does have its flaws eg battery life occasional freezing to name a few plus no further windows upgrade officially it looks like a dying breed imo but without the chefs on here this handset will be resurrected with android port coming through and presumably windows 7 the futures look good
I do love the phone alot and i do think its the best phone on the market but im just highly upset with its problems. My bad luck i guess hehe . I have another question dough.
What does the red or yellow dots on the back of the phone next to the battery on the lower left mean? I got a 3 phones with red dots but 1 with a yellos dot.
LiL xSOULJAx said:
I do love the phone alot and i do think its the best phone on the market but im just highly upset with its problems. My bad luck i guess hehe . I have another question dough.
What does the red or yellow dots on the back of the phone next to the battery on the lower left mean? I got a 3 phones with red dots but 1 with a yellos dot.
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all that is a reset button. First it was red, then on the newer batch, it was changed to yellow.
For me, its the best windows phone I have ever used. Although if I was thinking of buying a new phone at this stage of the year, I think I would wait till around Oct-Nov or at least i'll wai for the first release of W7 and see if it is worth the wait. But the HD2's built I think is almost perfect(virtual keys at the bottom would have made it perfect for me).
Well dasz really true ! Thanksz for all da help guysz .. Ima jusz try to find the best rom out there . I wuld like sum help on dat too if u dont mind hehe This site is very supportive and useful !! Big thumbs up
Coming from a google phone for the past 2 years and then going back to Windows I was amazed how easy it was to deal with the phone.
The issues are the same as the others freezing, lag, etc. I think its the stock ROM itself, but I wonder? Sometimes it acts like my old dash and when you have to close the tasks and use a program to clear up ram space, it annoys me.
I don't like the windows market place, in google certain programs are free, but in windows you have to pay to use features? F-that.
I awating till they perfect a andriod rom to be put in the HD2 with no issues.
The good points of the phone is that it syncs to my outlook with ease..
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Coming from a google phone for the past 2 years and then going back to Windows I was amazed how easy it was to deal with the phone.
The issues are the same as the others freezing, lag, etc. I think its the stock ROM itself, but I wonder? Sometimes it acts like my old dash and when you have to close the tasks and use a program to clear up ram space, it annoys me.
I don't like the windows market place, in google certain programs are free, but in windows you have to pay to use features? F-that.
I awating till they perfect a andriod rom to be put in the HD2 with no issues.
The good points of the phone is that it syncs to my outlook with ease..
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So does this mean that no matter what rom i put into the phone, it will always be lagging and freezing as it normally would?
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So does this mean that no matter what rom i put into the phone, it will always be lagging and freezing as it normally would?
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I wouldnt say that since most of the roms here seem to make it run better, but Windows mobile is crap compared to Linux.
The HD2 has the same features as my Andriod phone Google maps, You Tube, Google Browser, yet run like crap on the windows mobile phone. GPS take forever to lock on and the maps just has a differnet feel to it..Youtube runs differnet and the browser is crap
Does this phone really have a 1 ghz processor? It feels like my a phone is on 450ghz at times, again maybe window mobile requires too much?
I'm going to flash a rom on the phone since I am tired of the battery drain which is annoying
I have a Nexus One that I am in the process of selling since I like the Hd2 alot more.
The Hd2 does everything I could ever ask of a smartphone and more:
- Free turn by turn GPS directions
- Emulator gaming
- Word/Excel documents
- Bluetooth keyboard support (Android cant do this at all)
- Voice recorder
- Gorgeous 4.3' monster screen
- Tethering
I haven't had any problems with my Hd2 whatsoever. If anything Android gave me more problems than Windows Mobile. The only reason you hear about Android more is it's newer and the media want's to push it as hard as they do with Apple stuff for ratings...
I'm bored with my HD2. Because its working perfectly. I guess I need a new phone with lots of problems
I love the phone. It's design is great, the screen is amazing and the hardware is beefy. What really makes the phone though is the community and chefs here at XDA. I lose count of the amount of times I have reflashed my phone. With different ROMS, experimenting and messing around. It's a great device if you like doing that. It makes you pity the iSheep followers, really..
However, my main 2 drawbacks are this: 1) The battery life is poor.. although that is understandable with the screen and hardware it's got to supply. 2) the fact that HTC have confirmed that they will not be supporting/supplying WinMo 7 for the device. However, I hold out hope that will not be a problem for the clever guys here at XDA .
Since I went android, I've had nothing but HTC phones. I loved my Eris, incredible, & now thunderbolt. I've been following up on all these tech news, and I am starting to get curious of other phones. So my question to you all is, what phone would you guys consider outside of HTC? I've been following up on the 5" Samsung galaxy q that we only have rumors about, mainly because it has a bigass screen and I currently don't own a tab. If it had usb host mode then it would be a no brainer for me. I'm sold. But I looove HTC tho. I wish they could make a 5" phone/tab.
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iflip said:
Since I went android, I've had nothing but HTC phones. I loved my Eris, incredible, & now thunderbolt. I've been following up on all these tech news, and I am starting to get curious of other phones. So my question to you all is, what phone would you guys consider outside of HTC? I've been following up on the 5" Samsung galaxy q that we only have rumors about, mainly because it has a bigass screen and I currently don't own a tab. If it had usb host mode then it would be a no brainer for me. I'm sold. But I looove HTC tho. I wish they could make a 5" phone/tab.
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5" phone = even worse battery life than the 4.3" ones.
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5" phone = even worse battery life than the 4.3" ones.
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More screen to hide a REAL battery beneath though. Still, I'm not a fan of looking like a world-class dork holding a phone nearly the width of a 2x4 to my head for a call. Not to mention it probably looks about as garish as a Desert Eagle strapped to your side beneath a shirt or jacket. Who was it that made that phone/tab thing that was just HUGE? Dell, I think it was. Too massive to be a good phone, too dinky to be a good tablet... The only thing to out-class it in "WEIRD..." is that frankenphone Kyocera makes with the unfold-expand-"I'm a Nintendo DS Android!" thing.
That said, I'm a Samsung fan in all reality. Up until I went BlackBerry, that's all I would buy. And then Samsung met Android and began gene splicing with... SOMETHING... and I do NOT like it. It's the digital equivalent of a butterface. It's all sexy and smooth inside and out, but then you look at the screen and say "oh dear... there's NO way I'm gonna live with that hook-nose, acne-scarred, Jay Leno chinned monstrosity of a UI. The ONLY thing worse than AOSP and it's mutant launchers, in my opinion, is WizTouch, or whatever it's called. That would disappear from any Samsung I owned within hours.
As for Motorola... I'll quote myself. "There's some boner-inducing devices". Quirky TI CPUs that leave you asking "Where's the GHz?", pale and pasty screens, Motorola's world-famous garbage radios, E-Fuse, and a LONG history of making some of the worst phones ever. Any Motorola is the last device I'd own.
LG... At least they didn't try to be original and fail. Looks like ADW on AOSP mostly. More junk radios though.
I'm sure most didn't see it coming 5 or 6 years ago, but HTC does seem to be where it's at, with Samsung on their heels. Now if Samsung would just ramp up capacity on those AMOLED screens and outsource them again, little puppies wouldn't have to die.
Have you guys actually played with a Dell Streak?
As soon as I did, I understood the following...
5"=too big for phone unless you ALWAYS use bluetooth
Absolute_Zero said:
Have you guys actually played with a Dell Streak?
As soon as I did, I understood the following...
5"=too big for phone unless you ALWAYS use bluetooth
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I might be wrong, but I thought there was already a 5" samsung on ATT. If so I would agree you better try holding up to your ear and putting in your pocket before you sink money into buying it. Trying it there right now would be a good sign whether you should forget about buying it whenever it comes to verizon.
I'm guessing none of you are big guys, I'm 6'2" and I have large hands and 4.3" phones are a little small when in landscape and typing. Another 1/4-1/2" would be perfect for me, while others still think a 3.7" screen is the sweet spot. Also you have to keep in mind that the rumor is that these new phones with larger screens have smaller bezels.
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I'm guessing none of you are big guys, I'm 6'2" and I have large hands and 4.3" phones are a little small when in landscape and typing. Another 1/4-1/2" would be perfect for me, while others still think a 3.7" screen is the sweet spot. Also you have to keep in mind that the rumor is that these new phones with larger screens have smaller bezels.
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I'm 6'4 so a little on you . However, I use swype so typing in landscape works okay for me. Normally do it with just my thumb. Other keyboards that use touch typing, well...results may vary
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I'm 6'4 so a little on you . However, I use swype so typing in landscape works okay for me. Normally do it with just my thumb. Other keyboards that use touch typing, well...results may vary
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Ha im 6ft5.5
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Just keep getting bigger, I'm 7'2" and weigh 650 so the 10 " tab is a great phone size for me.
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lol I call bull****
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I didn't "choose" to come to a Thunderbolt. I wanted a Samsung Charge, but couldn't find one to trade my iPhone for, so I SETTLED for the Thunderbolt. Believe me, I wouldn't be on this thing if I didn't have to be.
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Just keep getting bigger, I'm 7'2" and weigh 650 so the 10 " tab is a great phone size for me.
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Lol. U guys are a trip. I'm 6"2 but I do feel like my thunderbolt is kinda adequately sized. But I'm a photographer, I like to view my images on something other than my camera when I'm nowhere near my imac. I don't own a laptop. And the tablet market has not caught up with the multimedia market yet. But I'm aware some phones and tablets have usb hosting mode. So a phone/tablet would be ideal. 5.3" screen would be an adequate in-between size for tablet and phone use imo. But the idea of usb host is what would sell me on something like that. It may not even be a possibility for that matter so... Well just have to wait n see.
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Just keep getting bigger, I'm 7'2" and weigh 650 so the 10 " tab is a great phone size for me.
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Big show?
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Originally Posted by ibsk8
Just keep getting bigger, I'm 7'2" and weigh 650 so the 10 " tab is a great phone size for me.
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Big show?
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He would make an awesome sumo wrestler at that height/weight.
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More screen to hide a REAL battery beneath though. Still, I'm not a fan of looking like a world-class dork holding a phone nearly the width of a 2x4 to my head for a call. Not to mention it probably looks about as garish as a Desert Eagle strapped to your side beneath a shirt or jacket. Who was it that made that phone/tab thing that was just HUGE? Dell, I think it was. Too massive to be a good phone, too dinky to be a good tablet... The only thing to out-class it in "WEIRD..." is that frankenphone Kyocera makes with the unfold-expand-"I'm a Nintendo DS Android!" thing.
That said, I'm a Samsung fan in all reality. Up until I went BlackBerry, that's all I would buy. And then Samsung met Android and began gene splicing with... SOMETHING... and I do NOT like it. It's the digital equivalent of a butterface. It's all sexy and smooth inside and out, but then you look at the screen and say "oh dear... there's NO way I'm gonna live with that hook-nose, acne-scarred, Jay Leno chinned monstrosity of a UI. The ONLY thing worse than AOSP and it's mutant launchers, in my opinion, is WizTouch, or whatever it's called. That would disappear from any Samsung I owned within hours.
As for Motorola... I'll quote myself. "There's some boner-inducing devices". Quirky TI CPUs that leave you asking "Where's the GHz?", pale and pasty screens, Motorola's world-famous garbage radios, E-Fuse, and a LONG history of making some of the worst phones ever. Any Motorola is the last device I'd own.
LG... At least they didn't try to be original and fail. Looks like ADW on AOSP mostly. More junk radios though.
I'm sure most didn't see it coming 5 or 6 years ago, but HTC does seem to be where it's at, with Samsung on their heels. Now if Samsung would just ramp up capacity on those AMOLED screens and outsource them again, little puppies wouldn't have to die.
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I have to use an AT&T phone for work so I chose the Atrix...it's pretty decent since it got updated to 2.3.4 but the UI is absolute garbage. It's snappy like I want it to be, but you are exactly right about the colors on the screen being incredibly muted. At the end of the day though I am quite happy to switch to my bolt.
I have been a bit curious about the Bionic that seems like it may actually be coming out soon-ish. If they did something about the terrible color quality it could potentially be worth looking into. My wife just got a Droid 3 because she refuses to have a phone without a physical keyboard...it's not terrible. Haven't played with it too much, but from what I have played with I wasn't too disappointed with.
I'd still want to stay away from Moto phones for a while. Any influence google will have over them probably wont happen until the generation after the next so whatever comes out later this year will probably be similar to what Moto has done in the past.
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I'd still want to stay away from Moto phones for a while. Any influence google will have over them probably wont happen until the generation after the next so whatever comes out later this year will probably be similar to what Moto has done in the past.
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Well damn....I am curious to see what comes out of Google buying them.
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Well damn....I am curious to see what comes out of Google buying them.
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Yeah, I'd say most of what is in the bionic is already set other than some software tweaks they may do. Hopefully it wont have blur on it, but I wouldn't hold my breath since it's a phone that's been in the works for a while.
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I'd still want to stay away from Moto phones for a while. Any influence google will have over them probably wont happen until the generation after the next so whatever comes out later this year will probably be similar to what Moto has done in the past.
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Yeah, I'd say most of what is in the bionic is already set other than some software tweaks they may do. Hopefully it wont have blur on it, but I wouldn't hold my breath since it's a phone that's been in the works for a while.
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Some people just want the best hardware build quality and for that you have to get Motorola. As long as the bionic gets rooted I want it. I'm trying to hold out on a replacement phone until it comes out because I won't use LG or Samsung and this is my 4th thunderbolt so my next replacement they will replace with a different 4g phone. The thunderbolt has good software, with its bugs but all phones do, and the BAMF roms are great but the poor build quality of these phones is something I'm not gonna deal with anymore. I've played with a incredible and it seemed much better in terms of quality so I wouldn't write off HTC phones like I have LG and Samsung, I just think its because they rushed to get a 4g phone out.
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Some people just want the best hardware build quality and for that you have to get Motorola. As long as the bionic gets rooted I want it. I'm trying to hold out on a replacement phone until it comes out because I won't use LG or Samsung and this is my 4th thunderbolt so my next replacement they will replace with a different 4g phone. The thunderbolt has good software, with its bugs but all phones do, and the BAMF roms are great but the poor build quality of these phones is something I'm not gonna deal with anymore. I've played with a incredible and it seemed much better in terms of quality so I wouldn't write off HTC phones like I have LG and Samsung, I just think its because they rushed to get a 4g phone out.
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Sorry man... I'm just gonna have to disagree with you on the whole Motorola build quality thing. I've gone though so many of those phone it's not even funny. The electronics and radios they use are garbage. My dad had a thing for Motorola for some ungodly reason and had these things laying around all over the place. Every time I activated one to give to someone it either buzzed so loud you couldn't hear anything, the mic would just randomly die, the controls didn't work/respond, the displays looked like crap, and without a single exception, NONE of them had a radio in them worth a damn. I couldn't even call into customer service to complain because the POS wouldn't work on the switchboard! Totally and completely worthless devices that couldn't so much as hold a signal to receive a text while I'd be on my Samsung chatting away. They sold those POS Razr's like crack to addicts, but they were garbage! Now my buddy has a DX that flips on and off, hangs up in calls, just stops responding, and goes and does stuff all by itself. Surprised? I wasn't. Pretty par for the course given what I've seen Motorola crank out for the last 6 years. I told the last guy who tried selling me on a Motorola that he'd have an easier time selling condoms in a convent. It's not often I hate on a product or company this much, but honestly, if they were giving Bionics away for free I STILL wouldn't activate one on one of my lines.
I got my Titan today and the first thing I noticed was that the touch was a bit slow, nothing to really care about but coming from the iPhone I expected the same "tracking" but it ain't there. Anyone else feeling this?
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I got my Titan today and the first thing I noticed was that the touch was a bit slow, nothing to really care about but coming from the iPhone I expected the same "tracking" but it ain't there. Anyone else feeling this?
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You on 8107? Did you start out with a Fresh Install? Any apps that might cause this?
Probably Digitizer issue... If you got warranty with AT&T/UK/whoever replace it
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You on 8107? Did you start out with a Fresh Install? Any apps that might cause this?
Probably Digitizer issue... If you got warranty with AT&T/UK/whoever replace it
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Yes 8107, I booted the phone and I had a few updates available so I updated it completely (I don't know what firmware it was from beginning, but definitely Mango at least). I'm not sure what you mean with Fresh install, please elaborate.
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Yes 8107, I booted the phone and I had a few updates available so I updated it completely (I don't know what firmware it was from beginning, but definitely Mango at least). I'm not sure what you mean with Fresh install, please elaborate.
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Fresh Install as In... A Factory Reset.... Like its better to start out with a clean slate then to start using a phone that was already being used and had some caches/apps loaded onto it...
Its best to ruled out any software issues before blaming Hardware (replacement)
And the digitizer is definitely not faulty.
ArtieQ said:
And the digitizer is definitely not faulty.
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Basically if its lagging it would be software related... There's a delay from when you do something to when WP7 responses to it... I would suggest backing Up and doing a Factory Reset and see if it makes a difference.
Did you load up the phone with stuff? Supposedly there's an issue with AT&T models that lag when low in memory even if you don't have that model it could be related
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Fresh Install as In... A Factory Reset.... Like its better to start out with a clean slate then to start using a phone that was already being used and had some caches/apps loaded onto it...
Its best to ruled out any software issues before blaming Hardware (replacement)
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It was brand new, never used before so it should have been from scratch already (I had to go through the setup thing and so on)
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Basically if its lagging it would be software related... There's a delay from when you do something to when WP7 responses to it... I would suggest backing Up and doing a Factory Reset and see if it makes a difference.
Did you load up the phone with stuff? Supposedly there's an issue with AT&T models that lag when low in memory even if you don't have that model it could be related
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I got like 15 apps installed but I really don't feel like resetting the phone, I can live with this.
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It was brand new, never used before so it should have been from scratch already (I had to go through the setup thing and so on)
I got like 15 apps installed but I really don't feel like resetting the phone, I can live with this.
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if it's an ATT model, I won't be surprised. Plenty of issues heard in the past with earlier batches too.
Make sure your thumb is not touching the sides as the screen comes so close to the sides that i was touching it and not knowing it, which made it appear to lag or not press numbers to unlock and such. The easy fix for it was to get a hard rubber case which raised my thumbs up so they wouldn't brush the screen edges when typing.
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if it's an ATT model, I won't be surprised. Plenty of issues heard in the past with earlier batches too.
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It's not an AT&T model, it's totally unbranded.
ROCOAFZ said:
Make sure your thumb is not touching the sides as the screen comes so close to the sides that i was touching it and not knowing it, which made it appear to lag or not press numbers to unlock and such. The easy fix for it was to get a hard rubber case which raised my thumbs up so they wouldn't brush the screen edges when typing.
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I press the screen straight on with my fingers. Anyway, I might just be overreacting here but it definately feels like the touch is a liiiiiittle after, delayed or whatever you wanna call it.
Uploaded a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFO45-u07AU
Looking at your video it seems perfectly normal to me, None of my WP7 devices have ever been any better than your Titan, (2xHD7 and a Titan) Maybe it's just a case of getting over your last phone and adapting to the way Windows Phone works, Took me ages after win Mo 6.5
Hi ArtieQ,
I have the same feeling as you : the scroll doesn't follow immediatly the finger, compared to my Omnia 7 or my iPhone. I hope HTC will fix this with an update, but I'm dreaming...
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Hi ArtieQ,
I have the same feeling as you : the scroll doesn't follow immediatly the finger, compared to my Omnia 7 or my iPhone. I hope HTC will fix this with an update, but I'm dreaming...
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I'm glad I wasn't the only one, because yesterday I was about to send in my Titan for warranty repair but later changed my mind. I really hope this is software related, but I think not.
I was also glad when I saw your post because nobody except you has noticed it. But if you look at any video of the titan, you'll see the problem is always here...
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I was also glas when I saw your post because nobody except you has noticed it. But if you look at any video of the titan, you'll see the problem is always here...
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I found this thread as well: http://forums.wpcentral.com/phone-wars/184480.htm
I have both an Omnia 7 and a Titan and one thing i noticed on the Titan is that if I don't hold the phone with one hand and use the other for touch the screen lags and failes to register the finger at times. On the Omnia 7 I don't have this problem. The Titan might be worse either way but it's a huge difference when not holding the phone on my Titan atleast
It's easy to reproduce in some games... I get missed swipes (fruit ninja) or birds that fly when I am still trying to get the perfect angle (angry birds).
I was hoping for a firmware to fix this but didn't know if anyone else have a problem so havent bothered reporting it to HTC. I guess if we don't the wont know it's a problem?
//Mikael P
Its got nothing to do with the OS if someone is wondering that! this is an HTC thing, evry phone from HTC have this, its just thay are not as responsiv as a Samsung phone or an IPhone, just look at HTC phone with Android its the same slow respons. if im not worng, this is an Screen issue, i mean an HTC issue HTC use on there phones.
Ok, so me and another guy did some tests with the onex+ touch screen and found out why so many of us have issues with scrolling, we need as many people as possible to report the issue to HTC so we can get a hotfix, i dont think HTC realize at the moment, this is what to do, type in on th phone keypad *#*#3424#*#*. choose more, then choose the screen drawing option, dont draw, just touch it with your finger and see if there is a white dot, if there isnt then touch another part of the screen and then see if the previous touch shows up, if so you have the same software issue as many of us, its quite possible that its a major hardware flaw and cant be rectified in which case HTC will have to do mass repairs or recall, we are not going to stand for this at a price of £500, if you have this issue please report on HTC website, either email or chat or phone call, it needs to be done or we will have scrolling issues time and time again on each update.
What touch screen issue are you talking about? I've not heard anything about it from anyone on here. I think mine is fine. Or maybe I haven't noticed it yet.
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I Did what u suggested and indeed... Dots appeared in places where I didn't even touch the screen... And yes ive also noticed that when I want to Swype through f.ex. tapatalk forum i verry often just pres thread instead of swype through them...
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Krzysiec said:
I Did what u suggested and indeed... Dots appeared in places where I didn't even touch the screen... And yes ive also noticed that when I want to Swype through f.ex. tapatalk forum i verry often just pres thread instead of swype through them...
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Soon as you get the chance report issue to HTC, more people the better.
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What touch screen issue are you talking about? I've not heard anything about it from anyone on here. I think mine is fine. Or maybe I haven't noticed it yet.
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Me and another guy discovered it, trying to sort out our scrolling problems, as of now theres an issue. 4 people have the exact same issue so far and i bet theres more.Test your screen and you will no for sure. Its causing random clicks and rubberbanding when scrolling, its not all the time and probably wouldnt notice it unless your a heavy user(always on your phone)
you have the same software issue as many of us, its quite possible that its a major hardware flaw
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Yup, I noticed it too. It's gone now, since I switched over to CM10. It makes no sense! (See what I did there? )
I think I'm that other guy OP was talking about. I have this scrolling issue where stuff on screen are being selected or clicked on accidentally instead of scrolling though them - but never had this problem before I updated to the most recent firmware, so I'm pretty sure this is a software thing.
Best we could do right now is report to HTC.
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Yup, I noticed it too. It's gone now, since I switched over to CM10. It makes no sense! (See what I did there? )
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Oh, so switching to a custom rom solves it. Must learn about those stuff then.
Had very similar problem on the sensation. Ended up being a bad ground. It was easy to fix because you could take the cover off. Small piece of aluminum foil or solder fixed it like new. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17072026#post17072026
Also i assume you guys are talking about the international version..? Anyone with US ATT version experience this issue yet?
Rant: These forums need separating... Nothing is interchangeable between the two phones..
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Had very similar problem on the sensation. Ended up being a bad ground. It was easy to fix because you could take the cover off. Small piece of aluminum foil or solder fixed it like new. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17072026#post17072026
Also i assume you guys are talking about the international version..? Anyone with US ATT version experience this issue yet?
Rant: These forums need separating... Nothing is interchangeable between the two phones..
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It would be nice to know if the problem shows its ugly head on the lte/4g versions, its def got to be reported, if its hardware they will have to recall or fix them, and they cant turn away people who are rooted or have custom roms if it hardware. Hi sharpshooterr, yes op is you, i couldnt remember your name untill i seen it lol. Same test on the onex with android 4.1.1 with sense 4+ shows the screen is perfect, theres not even any lag when drawing either. Things like this shouldnt be getting through quality control on high end flagship devices, really shows HTC is going down hill fast.
As of now i think your testing might be a little flawed, you are using the wrong test. This is a line draw test, not a touch test. Its liable to act the same for everyone when just touching. How does it draw for you? Draws fine for me. the thing about touching then touching again and both dots show is not any sort of test IMO because again this is a LINE DRAW test. Maybe download some of the touch and multitouch tests from the market and try those.
Dont get me wrong, if there is something wrong then it needs to be addressed. I applaud you for trying to bring it public. You should look into some other tests though. HTC will not pay any attention to this issue if its brought to them like this. Get some more info, more tests, different tests.. The more the merrier
With the information i've read here it does sound software related though.. custom roms can fix it and firmware updates can break it. Doesn't sound hardware to me.
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As of now i think your testing might be a little flawed, you are using the wrong test. This is a line draw test, not a touch test. Its liable to act the same for everyone when just touching. How does it draw for you? Draws fine for me. the thing about touching then touching again and both dots show is not any sort of test IMO because again this is a LINE DRAW test. Maybe download some of the touch and multitouch tests from the market and try those.
Dont get me wrong, if there is something wrong then it needs to be addressed. I applaud you for trying to bring it public. You should look into some other tests though. HTC will not pay any attention to this issue if its brought to them like this. Get some more info, more tests, different tests.. The more the merrier
With the information i've read here it does sound software related though.. custom roms can fix it and firmware updates can break it. Doesn't sound hardware to me.
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Ok, ive tested the same drawing test screen on the onex, doesnt happen, soon as you touch the screen it registers under your finger, the screen has to register the first touch in that same spot your finger is on no matter what your doing, this is why its clicking in other places and rubber banding when your scrolling, its registering to late, and the line drawing lags like f---k. When your drawing your keeping your finger on it so its going to register eventually in the place you want it, its no good when your scrolling. Ive reproduced the same in gesture search, and again on the onex it doesnt do it in gesture search. Keep in mind there both running android 4.1.1 with 4+ sense, the only screen difference is the glass. If what your saying is true then the onex should be the same way so i know its not down to he test app along with the other tests ive done. Eitherway theres def a problem with scrolling.Your probably right about HTC not doing anything.EDIT: Ive decided to refund or sell it and carry on using the onex, it just seems faster, battery last longer.
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It would be nice to know if the problem shows its ugly head on the lte/4g versions, its def got to be reported, if its hardware they will have to recall or fix them, and they cant turn away people who are rooted or have custom roms if it hardware. Hi sharpshooterr, yes op is you, i couldnt remember your name untill i seen it lol. Same test on the onex with android 4.1.1 with sense 4+ shows the screen is perfect, theres not even any lag when drawing either. Things like this shouldnt be getting through quality control on high end flagship devices, really shows HTC is going down hill fast.
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The problem does indeed show its ugly head on att lte/4g phone also.
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The problem does indeed show its ugly head on att lte/4g phone also.
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You received an OTA from AT&T?
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You received an OTA from AT&T?
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No... But thinking on it I may be a bad test subject since my phone is now rooted, bl unlocked, and running an insertcoin rom. I've had the phone for about a week.
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No... But thinking on it I may be a bad test subject since my phone is now rooted, bl unlocked, and running an insertcoin rom. I've had the phone for about a week.
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With the exception of insert coin my phone is the same. I do not have this problem. Something is wrong with the rom, your kernel or your phone if you are having touch screen issues.
I am unlocked, running elegancia, rooted. I do not have TWRP flashed as there are issues charging when the battery dies. Even when i did I never had touch screen issues.
Multi touch is useless also, only 2 fingers register, on a brandnew high end device and it only supports 2 finger multitouch, oh yes, i have a touch screen app that actually registers a soon as you touch the screen, but its only one app, all others i tested do as i described so i really do not know what to think, its def not hardware, its down to the software, we should get 4.2.1 soon and hopefully it will be gone, as the op said, i dont think HTC will do anything, especially now i found an app that makes the touch work as it should. So, basically, dont worry to much, its not the hardware. Ive boxed my onex+ back up and im using the onex untill new OS, i might even flash stock nexus 4 OS on the onex.
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Multi touch is useless also, only 2 fingers register, on a brandnew high end device and it only supports 2 finger multitouch, oh yes, i have a touch screen app that actually registers a soon as you touch the screen, but its only one app, all others i tested do as i described so i really do not know what to think, its def not hardware, its down to the software, we should get 4.2.1 soon and hopefully it will be gone, as the op said, i dont think HTC will do anything, especially now i found an app that makes the touch work as it should. So, basically, dont worry to much, its not the hardware. Ive boxed my onex+ back up and im using the onex untill new OS, i might even flash stock nexus 4 OS on the onex.
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To get the device to register more than 2 fingers go into settings -Display, gestures & buttons - turn off under gestures - HTC gestures (uncheck) this will give you up to 10 multitouch points.
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To get the device to register more than 2 fingers go into settings -Display, gestures & buttons - turn off under gestures - HTC gestures (uncheck) this will give you up to 10 multitouch points.
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I think what he said is absurd, I didn't disable HTC gestures and enabled "show touches" under developer options and the screen picks up my 10 fingers.
saibz said:
I think what he said is absurd, I didn't disable HTC gestures and enabled "show touches" under developer options and the screen picks up my 10 fingers.
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wow absurd huh? I can confirm that it is NOT absurd and works the way he posted it... even if you hit show touches in development, and leave htc gestures checked, none of the multitouch testing apps pick up more than 2 touches... even though you can see more, they dont register as touches in apps and games.. So... in order to have the full 10 point multitouch, no matter how absurd you think it is, HTC gestures must be unchecked.. Google it
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wow absurd huh? I can confirm that it is NOT absurd and works the way he posted it... even if you hit show touches in development, and leave htc gestures checked, none of the multitouch testing apps pick up more than 2 touches... even though you can see more, they dont register as touches in apps and games.. So... in order to have the full 10 point multitouch, no matter how absurd you think it is, HTC gestures must be unchecked.. Google it
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You misunderstand, I'm saying that it's absurd that boe323's saying the device can only support up to two touches and multi-touch is useless. Since you yourself said it will register up to 10 touches with the correct setting then it IS absurd that he claims it can only pick up two. Even the HTC gesture settings clearly says 3 finger-touches so that in itself made his statement of only two-touch support absurd.
It seems that you think I'm disagreeing with ihavoc, you should improve your reading comprehension.