fastest microSDHC ? - Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi!
I want to buy a new microSDHC card.
There is the A-DATA Turbo microSDHC 8GB, Class 6 (AUSDH8GCL6)
the Transcend microSDHC 8GB, Class 6 (TS8GUSDHC6).
the SanDisk Mobile Ultra microSDHC 8GB, Class 4 (SDSDQY-8192-E11M) --> is now Class 4 only? wasn't it class 6? -- http://geizhals.at/a330503.html)
I searched the forums, some say the A-DATA is better and the Transcend is quite slow / buggy - but some also say the A-DATA card is slower and buggy...
Some benchmarks / tests on the Hero would be cool

All I can say is I have a Sandisk 8gb Class 6 MicroSDHC card and it does its job really well.

I'm using a Transcend 16GB Class 6 MicroSDHC and is performing quite well.

Does the SD class impact much on the speed of the phone?
Thanks
Phil

I've managed to convince myself it does, I've noticed my phone has been more responsive since upping to a Class 6 card.

I've seen people say that the swapfile is on SD, hence why it seems more responsive. However, knowledgable people have replied that the swapfile is not on the SD, and it can't.
It will obviously speed up anything that accesses the card, though

oprisnik said:
microSDHC 8GB, Class 4 (SDSDQY-8192-E11M) --> is now Class 4 only? wasn't it class 6? -- http://geizhals.at/a330503.html)
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It was when I got mine. Looking at the (stock) pic, it still looks like a 6 in the top-right, no? I think the site has it wrongly labelled.
shame on sandisk for not giving perf figures on their website though.
there's a good site for SD (not microSD) & CF benchmarks here:
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/reader_report_multi_page.asp?cid=6007-9438
it's mostly for camera-types, but there is a USB reader section that should test the raw card. again, not for microSD, but gives an idea, perhaps.

I don't think using a class 6 card is that much faster (or even at all) than using a class 4 card. I can't see any difference in speed in the UI - only in load times.

cdmackay said:
It was when I got mine. Looking at the (stock) pic, it still looks like a 6 in the top-right, no? I think the site has it wrongly labelled.
shame on sandisk for not giving perf figures on their website though.
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No, this is a site for price comparison - I've been at 2 shops and they both had the ultra card and it was class 4...
one shop had a class6, but on the package it said class 4. (and it was very expensive)
I think I'll go with the transcend

that's very odd...

Sandisk Ultra speed
Hi,
I got my Sandisk Mobile Ultra 8 GB SDHC card yesterday.
The web shop where I bought it said Class 6, but the print on the card says Class 4. I was obviously disappointed, but as I transferred my old data to the new card using the supplied (really handy) card reader, I achieved a constant transfer speed of about 13 MB/s.
The phone does seem a bit more responsive now, although that may only be psychological. It is definitely faster in Albums and Music, though.
Best regards,
Martin Wiboe

Changing the SD card
Hello Guys,
i am new to this forum, so i hope im posting in the right place
My hero came with a 2GB card, which i used now for a while.
Now i got a bigger card, to switch cards can i just copy everything from the old to the new bigger card and plug into the phone? Or do i need to reinstall something?
many thanks for your help
Arek

Format the new card in-phone first to ensure compatibility, then you can simply copy everything over from the old one.

many thx for that, will try it soon
Arek

Today I got my Transcend Class6 microSDHC card.
Results (with SiSoft Sandra & Card formatted in Hero (original format was a bit faster)):
Transcend 8GB Class 6:
512bytes
Read : 226.22kB/s
Write : 22.82kB/s
32kB
Read : 7.19MB/s
Write : 1.02MB/s
2MB Dateitest
Read : 14.67MB/s
Write : 6.70MB/s
64MB
Read : 14.93MB/s
Write : 8.53MB/s
256MB
Read : 17.07MB/s
Write : 8.53MB/s
Sandisk 2GB that comes with the phone:
512bytes
Read : 181.49kB/s
Write : 7.71kB/s
32kB
Read : 6.29MB/s
Write : 882.67kB/s
256kB
Read : 9.00MB/s, 61.47X
Write : 3.09MB/s
2MB
Read : 10.10MB/s
Write : 3.70MB/s
64MB
Read : 10.67MB/s
Write : 5.33MB/s
256MB
Read : 8.53MB/s
Write : 4.27MB/s

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Got an 8GIG MicroSD card, and...

My Hero came with a 2GIG card ( I'm not sure what class ) - it was fine but too small.
After a bit of research, I found that the higher the class the faster the card ( ie class 6 is a faster card than class 2 etc ).
I formatted the new card in the phone.
So I copied all my old card files to my computer, then copied them over to the new card.
Put in the new 8GIG card in my phone and it mounted no problem and I had all my music and photos.
BUT -
As I can see, it seems to be a lot slower than my old card. If I go to my photo album, it will load as a preveiw grid. This used to happen pretty quickly, but on the new card, the grid squares are grey, and then start to load up with the photo images.
Any ideas why and ways to fix this?
cheers all
did you buy the new card from an auction site? I hate to suggest it, but there are a lot of fakes around...
J-Zeus said:
After a bit of research, I found that the higher the class the faster the card ( ie class 6 is a faster card than class 2 etc ).
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Errhhh, this is actually incorrect.
All the class means is that your card is guaranteed to write at certain minimum speeds.
Class 2 - 2mb/s
Class 4 - 4mb/s
Class 6 - 6mb/s
So, if you buy a genuine class 6 card, you are guaranteed that it will write at 6mb/s but that doesn't preclude it from operating faster than this minimum.
A good quality class 4 will often write at 11 or 12 mb/s, more than double the class 6 minimum. You can expect that a good quality class 2 or class 4 will often outperform the class 6 minimum, whereas as poor quality class 6 will perform far closer to its minimum requirement.
When buying an SD card, don't just look at the class - look for independent reviews. For example, http://www.davidgilson.co.uk/2008/12/follow-up-another-micro-sdhc-card/, which shows a class 2 card running at speeds well in excess of class 6 minimums.
Regards,
Dave
This is another case of the Hero having problems with certain SDHC cards.
The thumbnails for the Album are not being created and stored for some reason, and i can almost guarantee this is what's happening to you.
I've had to go back to using my old 2gb for now, as my 8gb Sandisk Mobile Ultra Class 6 was performing poorly when viewing my photo albums. We're still trying to work out why the Hero is not liking these newer cards...
I'm watching with interest....
foxmeister said:
When buying an SD card, don't just look at the class - look for independent reviews. For example, http://www.davidgilson.co.uk/2008/12/follow-up-another-micro-sdhc-card/, which shows a class 2 card running at speeds well in excess of class 6 minimums.
Regards,
Dave
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How sad, I should have noticed this before. Having read your article, I immediately test my two SDHC cards. The finding changes my fundamental view on class numbers:
Transcend Micro SDHC, 8G, Class 6: 9.1MB
Sandisk Micro SDHC, 8G, Class 4: 14.9MB
Note 1: The Transcend card is from someone who sold me a second hand Google G1.
Note 2: The Sandisk card came with a tiny red reader (Like this), bought in Hong Kong
The speed test is carried out using the Sandisk reader in conjuction with the card benchmark software called "ATTO". To my surprise, the read/write speed of this tiny reader is, amazingly, faster than the internal card reader.
That would be this issue.
Still no real solution yet, but its not an exclusive problem.

Which sdcard ?

Hi,
I have seen a post on which is the best sd card for the hero ?
But can't find it anymore.
Regards
Tony
tony28 said:
Hi,
I have seen a post on which is the best sd card for the hero ?
But can't find it anymore.
Regards
Tony
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http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/ph...sd-memory-cards/buy/SANDISK-MICROSD-16GB-CARD
I have this great performance and good price too order online though as i went in store and they tried to charge me £50 LOL
Thanks for your answer. This one is good for the hero ?
But what about the class ??? Which is better ?
Hi Guys.
I'm just about to buy a new micro sd card for my hero, as i have heard that usin a good class 6 can improve the speed of the phone.
Basically, I've found 2 great deals, not sure which one to go with.
First, 8gb Sandisk "mobile ultra" class 6, 17 quid on amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SANDISK-MOBILE-MICRO-ULTRA-CLASS/dp/B001U2EQF2/ref=pd_cp_ce_2
Orrrr... 16gb Transcend class 6, 50 quid on amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0027HUY...ive=7966&creativeASIN=B0027HUYL4&linkCode=asn
Does anybody use transcend, is it any good? Is it guna be as good as a sandisk one?
Thoughts please guys,
Cheers, Dave
I don't know but not a long time ago, i have heard something like that :
A class 2 in sandisk or else = class 6 in kingston or else.
The problem is that i don't remember the brand and the class LOL
I bought a Transcend MicroSDHC Class6 card, anyone knows if its a big diff between class2 and class6?
The read/write speed is different. Here's what I bought: http://www.meritline.com/showproduct.aspx?ProductID=26412&SEName=adata-8gb-microsdhc-card-class4
From Wiki:
* Class 2: 2 MByte/s - 13x
* Class 4: 4 MByte/s - 26x
* Class 6: 6 MByte/s - 40x
The one I bought really did write at 6mb/s which was surprising (although the item description changed to class 4 even though I bought a class 6)
Thanks, glad I bought a class6 card ..
I've bought a 16GB Transcend Class 6 card and it's great.
The class sytem is based upon that the card should read/write a minimum of MB same as the class it is. So a class 6 card should read & write at a minimum speed of 6MB. My card actually is actually faster than this, but it should not go below 6MB on any occation.
fluke2k said:
I've bought a 16GB Transcend Class 6 card and it's great.
The class sytem is based upon that the card should read/write a minimum of MB same as the class it is. So a class 6 card should read & write at a minimum speed of 6MB. My card actually is actually faster than this, but it should not go below 6MB on any occation.
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Agreed with the Above, however dont base your choice on class only, as there is another thread on here, try searching which a member said that a good brand class 2 (sandisk in particular) outperformed a class 6 ok/crap brand. All the class is there for is to not allow the chip to write any less then stated it does not mean it is faster because its class 6 or class 5
i went with kingston because it comes with a lifetime warranty.

16gb Class 2, any difference?

I found this on amazon, pretty much the cheapest and highest i can find on the class category, right now i have a 8GB Class 6 but im running out of space because of the HD videos im recording, will i noticed any significant difference in performance on this phone? and its Kingston and trust them
http://www.amazon.com/Professional-...2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1292972644&sr=1-2
anyone got feedback??
I had a 8GB class 2 and the phone needed alone around 3 seconds till the screen went balck and the cam started after pressing the camera key and 1 or 2 seconds till the cam was on.
Now I have a 16GB class 4 and the cam starts immediately (around 0,5 sec after pressing the camera key) and needs around 1-2 seconds till the cam is started.
I think Mediascape etc is also faster with the class 4 than with the class 2.
I don't want to have a class 2 card in my phone anymore, the whole phone feels faster with an class 4 card.
So I'd say you'll feel a difference. If you have the money, go for a 16GB class 4.
it comes with a 16gb class 2
get a class 4 or higher.
preferably a class 6
I read that the phone can't use the performance plus of a class 6 card compared to a class 4 one, so a class 4 should be the best choice.
I'm using 16G class 10 that i bought from Amazon
it work with my X10 and never had any problem until today.
effect: Camera and music are faster then the 8gb c4.
forgot to post the name of my 16gb c10 micro sd brand: kingmax
Good, bought the same card yesterday, hopefully it will he shipped fast. Changed from a 16gb class4 to class10 because with the latest firmware the X10 can read & write with class10 speed...
I'm actually upgrading from a Class2 2GB to a Class 6 8GB, hoping the system overall runs faster so I cant vouch for class2/6 change yet, although I'd question the "cheapest one" for class 2 I found this
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ww w.amazon.com/SanDisk-microSDHC-Memory-SDSDQ-016G-Packaging/dp/B001L1H0SC/ref=sr_1_88?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1300394566&sr=1-88
Did you guys try getting readings on SD Tools for read/write?
On the original SD Class 2 I got write 1.6mb/s and read 60 mb/s (WTF?)
and on a class 10 which I bought off ebay I got 13mb/s and 17 mb/s !
Sorry if I'm not relevant but how do I find on which class my card is on ?
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
Use the app "SD Card Speed Test", it will show you the class.
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The best possible card is the Lexar microSDHC 32Gb Class 10, but it comes with a price of ~100Euro.
For 16Gb, check if you can find a Class 10 from Lexar, Kingston, Sandisk as these are reputable producers.
Or if the price is right, you can check out a Class 6 or Class 10 made by TeamGroup or A-Data, these are 2nd tier producers.
In the end, remember that not always the fact that is written on the package makes it true.
Darth Glacious said:
The best possible card is the Lexar microSDHC 32Gb Class 10, but it comes with a price of ~100Euro.
For 16Gb, check if you can find a Class 10 from Lexar, Kingston, Sandisk as these are reputable producers.
Or if the price is right, you can check out a Class 6 or Class 10 made by TeamGroup or A-Data, these are 2nd tier producers.
In the end, remember that not always the fact that is written on the package makes it true.
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I use this card and "bang for buck" its the best out there. Never had a problem and read/writes are exactly as stated. In fact, after installing a custom rom, changing to .58 baseband and then adding this card, its made me fall in love with this phone for the first time since I bought it and iv'e had mine since launch (UK). Excellent sdhc card, well worth the money, if like me, you use your phone as an entertainment device.
Class 6 Plus Camera Mod
A while back I stumbled on a camera mod for Build.Prop.. if you get a faster card.. you can adjust your FPS of cam.. I bought an 8Gb class 6 and with the mod it works quite well. So there is ways to improve your software if you want to upgrade your storage.. I got mine at Target with a reader for $20.00. Sure beats the stock 2Gb class 2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922657
Class 10
I'm in the business of looking for one myself as well. From what i have been told your best bet is a class 6 and up. I am looking for a class 10 myself just because the read and right speed are the fastest. Taking pictures, recording video, etc.. always try with class 6 and up for sure.
I have a Sandisk 16GB Class 4 card and just tested the speed:
write: 5.5 mbps
read: 10.9 mbps
Never had any problems with video recording but I can imagine the difference between this one and a class 6 is noticable.

[Q] SD card class for NT

Hi all!
What class of sd cards is the best for NT? Is it necessary to bay class 10 sd card?
I'm using a Sandisk Class 4 16gig card and it works fine. Absolutely no problems. Haven't tried a class 10 so I can't reliably say whether it would be better or not.
class speed doesn't matter much when it comes to using it with the NT. the reason is because the class speed just represents the write speed, whereas when you use your sdcard in the NT, the only thing that matters is read speed. So I would say a class 10 card isn't worth the money. I would go for like a class 4 or class 6 16gb card. I find that to be the sweet spot. hope that helps
i am using a 16gig hc class 4, show it in a video
I asked that question because i want to bay new sd card for my Nook, but i don't know if nook's controller allow me to use my card in full speed.
I am getting a 32gb Class 10 card (Lexar) that I paid 40 dollars for. I will let you know how it performs once I receive/install.
I downloaded SDFormatter and if anyone has suggestions on formatting or partitioning, let me know. I heard FAT32 but that is all I know.
I'm using an AmazonBasics class 10 32Gb card that I already had in my camera and it works great. I'll probably buy another just like it to put back in the camera.
i've bought a new silicon power's class 10 sd card. SD tools test showed me 15.9 write speed and 18.2 read speed.
Someplace here on forum I have read the best is to get a ScanDisk class 2 or 4 to work with the NT. Perhaps you could do a search on ScanDisk and find the exact post. BTW because of that recommendation that is what I use with my NT and so far so good that is working out great for me.
Manual suggests Class 6. Where did you find the 32 gig for $40?

64GB microSDXC in Xperia Ray

Not sure the development forum is the right place, but it's the only forum that is Xperia Ray related. I wanted to say that I bought a 64GB microSDXC card, reformatted it to FAT32 in my computer, and my Xperia Ray accepts it just fine, all GB's are there.
I mention this in this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25023349#, but that is not an Xperia thread.
See attachment.. (sorry, can't find screenshot on the ICS beta, still waiting for the release in my country, or an image that I can flash from my mac)
I was not patient enough to fill the full 64gb with the SD Card Tester, but I went up to 33gb, so past the 32gb limit.
wow, that's good news
ps : screenshot in ics : hold volume down and power button for a second, and voila
Nice, my 32 is pretty full but I'll probably wait till the price drops.
Sent from a blackened Ray S V6
Nice man
but the 64GB card price is too expensive to me
This is great news! Which brand of the card are you using? We can perhaps maintain a list of supported cards for the ray.
The memory card I used is:
SanDisk Mobile Ultra 6 MicroSDXC 64GB
By the way, the SD Card Tester indeed reached a continuous write speed of 6 MB/s, in agreement with the card being "Class 6". Initially it peaked at something around 10 MB/s.
there was a recent drop in price for this card to USD 69.50, and i was about to purchase it, but change my mind and got the new sandisk mobile ultra class 10, i will still get this sometime next week.
if anyone needs to know the speed.
sandisk 64GB class 6
using UHS I card reader
read 38mb/s
write 6-8mb/s
high speed card reader (non UHS I)
read 19-21mb/s
write 6-8mb/s
sandisk 32GB class 10
using UHS I card reader
read 38mb/s
write 11.5-13mb/s
high speed card reader (non UHS I)
read 19-21mb/s
write 11.5-13mb/s
kms108 said:
there was a recent drop in price for this card to USD 69.50, and i was about to purchase it, but change my mind and got the new sandisk mobile ultra class 10, i will still get this sometime next week.
if anyone needs to know the speed.
sandisk 64GB class 6
using UHS I card reader
read 38mb/s
write 6-8mb/s
high speed card reader (non UHS I)
read 19-21mb/s
write 6-8mb/s
sandisk 32GB class 10
using UHS I card reader
read 38mb/s
write 11.5-13mb/s
high speed card reader (non UHS I)
read 19-21mb/s
write 11.5-13mb/s
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Damn class 10! Just got mine class 6 card but I'm satisfied
Sent from a blackened Ray S V6
With the recent drop in price, the class 10 just showed up, so i'm guessing a 64GB class 10 should be around the corner.
I could not format FAT32 with WIN7 64bit, it always says to big to format, i've made it with this tool
www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/download/fat32format.zip
I can confirm 64 gb sd card with ray
Haun said:
I could not format FAT32 with WIN7 64bit, it always says to big to format, i've made it with this tool
www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/download/fat32format.zip
I can confirm 64 gb sd card with ray
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you dont need to go through all that trouble, just format it on the ray.
Hello there,
I have bought a Sandisk Micro SDXC Mobile Ultra UHS-1 class 10 64gb for my Xperia Ray and it perfectly works !
kms108 said:
you dont need to go through all that trouble, just format it on the ray.
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You can't format directly from the phone, the option is unavailable.
With Win 7 64bits, you need a software in order to format the micro sd card (example : EaseUS partition master home edition)
You can
I can confirm I formatted my SanDisk SDXC 64GB in the phone (gingerbread at that time). I was and I am still not able to use my card using the reader connected to Win7 directly, but connecting throught the phone works as expected. Great thing. Really looking forward to 128GB
You guys listen to music on ray a lot or what?
Taking a lot of pics and still not used half of my 4GB class 2, but I will move to 8GB class 10 one for better speed.
Glad to know a 64gig works on our ray, I thought it could only cope with a 32gb. Foggy I have a 32gb in mine atm but only have 9gb left, yes I do have lots of photos and videos and music lol
Sent from my Xperia ray using xda premium
YAY 64GB is working fine here on my SE Ray even though it is not listed as SUPPORTED in SanDisk web page.
SanDisk
UHS Class 1
CLASS 10
30mb/s
200x
On ebay for 68 dollars (free shipping) as of now....
My 32gb class 10 is almost full and left about 200mb...
Im glad to hear that ray can support 64gb..
:thumbup:
Sent from my POWER'ED Ray
Buying 64 GB
And my Ray boots up a lot faster too with my new class10 64gb microSDXC, compared to when I had my previous class4 32gb microSD...
It feels good to check the available memory space.... 51.7gb free
Turbomortel said:
Hello there,
I have bought a Sandisk Micro SDXC Mobile Ultra UHS-1 class 10 64gb for my Xperia Ray and it perfectly works !
You can't format directly from the phone, the option is unavailable.
With Win 7 64bits, you need a software in order to format the micro sd card (example : EaseUS partition master home edition)
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Actually you can use command-line to format any media bigger than 32 GB to FAT32, just type cmd in Start > Run a then
format X: /FS:FAT32 /Q, where X: is the letter of your phone's memory card

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