I've bought a htc wired remote control from the internet. I received it today and connected it to my HTC hermes with windows mobile 6. After installing the drivers only the sound works but none of the buttons. I've installed these drivers: Y-cable_HERM1_070316.CAB
Does any of you has a htc wired remote control working on a HTC hermes?
Are you sure that it works by installing only the Y-cable driver ?
I have the sameMDA Vario II and when I installed this nothing worked
So since HTC has issues with Bluetooth compatibility, I was wondering:
Do any of you have bluetooth gamepads? Which ones? Do they work?
I've heard This one is pretty good, but it's out of stock, and I haven't seen anywhere that it's actually compatible with the Evo 3D. I'm just looking to find something real quick to set up my super portable omni gaming console (Controller + MHL Adapter + Evo 3D) and I don't want to buy something that doesn't work.
Prefer something with analog sticks, too. Not just the cross pad.
Input is appreciated! Thanks.
It's the Bluetooth 3.0 that is making all of your old ones incompatible, it's not HTC's fault. More Bluetooth 3.0 accessories will be out soon enough though.
Evo 3D is confirmed to support the bluetooth HID profile, therefore the Phonejoy will work - heres my demo with the HTC Sensation (forward to 3:30):
More info here including stuff on the new Phonejoy version with analog sticks, the video is using a Galaxy SII, but it will work the same with the Evo 3D. I recommend it highly!
I have a Zeemote ZS1 and it wouldn't pair because the sense bluetooth stack requires the HID device to type in a numeric code but obviously there's no way to do that from a gamepad.
So is there any point in pre ordering a phone joy controller ? with the e3d
icontrolpad works just fine too
catpunt said:
I have a Zeemote ZS1 and it wouldn't pair because the sense bluetooth stack requires the HID device to type in a numeric code but obviously there's no way to do that from a gamepad.
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You don't need to pair from bluetooth settings, it can all be done from within Bluez IME. All you do is long press the pin text entry field and change the input method to one of the keyboards on your handset, then change the input method back to Bluez IME after inputting the code...
The link I provided above has a tutorial video on pairing that shows you how, if you need it.
Can't see any reason for the Zeemote not to work where the Phonejoy does...
hydrogenman said:
icontrolpad works just fine too
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I have a DesireHD and i use bluezIME to connect to my Icontrolpad. Does it work without bluezIME on the Evo3d or Sensation? I mean directly through HID profile?
This would be awesome because this would theoretically mean if I use a Sense 3 rom which is basically a port from the Sensation rom, it would also work on the DHD.
BluezIME is just fine, but there is no analog support for FPSE/N64oid^^
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You don't need to pair from bluetooth settings, it can all be done from within Bluez IME. All you do is long press the pin text entry field and change the input method to one of the keyboards on your handset, then change the input method back to Bluez IME after inputting the code...
The link I provided above has a tutorial video on pairing that shows you how, if you need it.
Can't see any reason for the Zeemote not to work where the Phonejoy does...
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I tried that, and tried it again after your post but it doesn't work for me... when i switch to another IME then put focus on the dialog asking for the pin, and enter the code nothing happens. When I hit enter from the keyboard IME it says "authentication failed"
Any other tips?
Which code are you using? Can't remember the Zeemote code off the top of my head, but should be either 0000 or 1234.
well when the evo 3d sense tries to pair, it generates a random 6-digit code and asks you to enter it in from the zeemote. when i switch ime's to touch input or swype and enter the code on the dialog box it doesn't pick it up. i tried using 0000 (which is the default code for the zeemote) but it didn't work. i think sense has a funky bluetooth stack that insists on using that pairing method
That's weird, because with the vast majority of BT devices you obviously can't enter a custom code provided by the phone... Anyway, Phonejoys are entering production again, I ordered one (mostly for my tablet but I'll try it on phone too). The shipping is kinda steep but it's still cheaper than most other controllers, even stock PS3 pads. The order page is kinda hard to access from a phone browser, it's a cascading menu that wouldn't open for me so I used a direct link someone shared, if you have trouble just access it from a PC.
Catpunt,
I had exactly the same issue, but I've just found an Android app recently published by Zeemote that successfully paired the Zeemote with my HTC EVO 3D. It's called "JS1 Quick Start Application" on the Android Market:
market.android.com/details?id=com.zeemote.android.js1.quickstart
The app first tried to auto-pair the JS1, and when that failed it asked me to choose 1 of 3 manual methods for pairing. The one that worked for me was #3. The Bluetooth device status is now "Paired but not connected." So now Bluez-IME connects to the Zeemote, and it works perfectly.
There are also a few games out there that have built-in Zeemote support that don't need JS1 Quick Start or Bluez-IME, such as SpeedX 3D and Overkill.
Due to an astounding lack of information on the subject I decided to open a thread dedicated to listing off bluetooth controllers for android devices. This way we can play anything from dos games to ps1 games.
There is a PS1 style controller out currently from Phonejoy. They have a dual analog controller in the works.
http://www.phonejoy.net/
Another choice is Zeemote though it is pricey and from what I could find (correct me if I am wrong) they are only offering it for devs for android. That and its like $60.
http://www.zeemote.com/uk/developers/zeemote-sdk/
MSI BPG100 Gamepad. The design looks.....odd, it honestly doesnt look lile a comfortable controller.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.13760
If you guys have any other ones that you know of feel free to post it up and I will add it to the list.
Sent from my HTC EVO View. 7" of S-Off 4g Fury!
My question is, how many of those are sense friendly? I know from the thunderbolt forums that sense roms won't work with bt controllers. I see that the AOSP tons do, apparently from a different Bluetooth stack. Thanks for the links!
It's because of Bluetooth 3.0. Once more of those accessories start coming out, we'll see working gamepads that will work for Sense devices.
I use my zeemote (that I picked up for $20 shipped on the bay) with my epic4g and its fantastic. It doesn't want to pair with the view because the view wants to autoassign a pin instead of using the default lol
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Did someone try the PS3 controller app?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=689984
or are there other ones working?
Hello, been lurking around here for a while, thought I would finally make my first post. I was wondering if there had been any more discoveries on sense-friendly bt controllers, or any (preferably HC) flyer roms with a full bluetooth stack. I have globatrons hc installed at the moment, and I would absolutely love to be able to play with my wiimote (like I am able to on my Inspire via CM7).
So, in summation, are there any sense compatible bt controllers out there?
-OnLive Universal Wireless Controll
-zeemote
Are there any there any vanilla/sense-less HC roms for flyer?
There are no vanilla ROMs. Most people do not want one since it kind of deprciates the uniique qualities of the Flyer. for WI, I don't know. Most apps that do that don't like to work with HTC.
I recently read a thread about a guy who wrote CobaltController for windows phones. Some windows phones do not have full BT support either, it seems, and suffer a similar inability to pair with controllers such as the wiimote. He wrote a program that acts as a second BT stack that can be ran while your phones default BT is off.
Would it be possible to create a similar apps for sense phones? I would gladly contribute $50 towards developement of such a program for sense devices that allows pairing with the wiimote in particular.
Has anyone tried the iControlPad from ThinkGeek.com? If not I will give it a try after the holidays, and post the results... They did list a couple HTC phones, so I am hopeful.
Nate
Obviously there is not a astounding amount of demand for such apps or one of the current WI controller apps on the market would have been fixed to work with the Flyer, but that being said, I would recommend you contact some of those developers on the market and ask if that can fix the issues or have an alternative.
I would have to disagree with you. Perhaps that argument could be made specifically for Wiimote support on the flyer, but more broadly the problem experienced via sense UI for many BT devices that have similar pairing issues is something I believe there is a demand for a solution.
I have used the search function on this issue extensively, and there was a lot more interest it seems before it was certain that honeycomb would be coming to flyer. I believe many thought HC would clear up all the BT issues with sense, which was not the case.
In any case after searching through LeeDroid's rom thread I have read he would be dealing with BT issues for his rom (though not specifically for my device) so that may be the end solution I have to go with, if he gets a working fix and it is compatable with my device. It is a shame though because I do really enjoy honeycomb.
HTC does not write the bluetooth stack , its part of Android. Android only includes basic device support. Each HW vendor includes settings in configuration files that tell Android which services to allow, HTC may need to tweak the settings or a clever developer can do it. Audio issues are a different matter due to the Linux mess that is audio libraries and routing.
Special devices, even if they pair will not work without a special key-mapping and its impossible to include every device in the OS, so your premise that a new version of Android will solve all issues is simply wrong. That's why there are third party apps to handle special cases like a WI controller or a bluetooth GPS. SO while Android may pair and recognize that a game controller is a HID device on bluetooth , unless there is a matching key map or driver, your results will not be happy.
I am aware HTC does not write the BT stack... but they do use an older, less functional, blue tooth stack to work with their sense UI.
"Special devices, even if they pair will not work without a special key-mapping and its impossible to include every device in the OS, so your premise that a new version of Android will solve all issues is simply wrong. "
I never said that. If you take a look at what I said; I stated that there was interest in some sort of blue tooth fix prior to honeycomb coming out, and people INCORRECTLY assumed that it would clear up any bt problems.
Any of the emulation progams I run support keymapping to the remote. And the devices can be seen by the device, but pairing is impossible. So the bt stack on these devices is the issue, though you seemed mighty determined to insist otherwise.
Well whatever, you seem to know more than anyone else about it so fix it.
The Bluetooth stack used by HTC is written by Broadcomm and used by Samsung, LG, HTC and others. As you can see by studying the Android Market, all those devices you listed are special cases and require a special application to make them work . For example Bluez IME which has been reported to work on the Flyer. Good luck.
I have downloaded the newest version of bluez ime and it would not successfully pair with my Flyer running Globatron's HC rom.
Bluez IME will not work on the flyer, if it running any version of HTC sense. or so the program developer says:
http://code.google.com/p/android-bluez-ime/issues/detail?id=7
I have also read on a market review someone claiming it worked with the flyer. However they did not mention which devices, drivers, or firmware they were using.
I could not find a suitable Bluetooth controller in bestbuy the other day. I've heard of such things as the Wii remote working for android, but I read further and found it did not work with Sense UI. So I decided to go and buy a Bluetooth keyboard because I was used to the PC gaming style anyways. It works fine for the n64 emulator, but I wish more keys were mapped on mine, and I am trying to get it to work.
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You should try out BT Controller app on the market.
You can use your phone as a gamepad and no htc bt stack issues.
https://market.android.com/details?id=droidbean.btcontroller
Cimer said:
I could not find a suitable Bluetooth controller in bestbuy the other day. I've heard of such things as the Wii remote working for android, but I read further and found it did not work with Sense UI. So I decided to go and buy a Bluetooth keyboard because I was used to the PC gaming style anyways. It works fine for the n64 emulator, but I wish more keys were mapped on mine, and I am trying to get it to work.
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Keys are mapped in files in /system/usr/keylayout
it's not so straightforward and depends on what vendor ID the device presents. If it matches an installed key map, ok, but if not then it may get either the generic map or the qwerty map. The Flyer already has maps for logitech , Sony, Apple and Motorola bluetooth keyboards, but not MS. you might start by searching for a MS keymap file.
WARNING< backup your files / ROM before you modify any key map files in your system.
Good luck
Also see this link.
http://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=159538
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or you could forget bluetooth specialty drivers and custom devices and use something that already works, the Xbox 360 controller which has support built-in on the Flyer.
What you will need:
1. Xbox 360 wireless controller
2. An Android Emulator
3. micro USB to USB Female Cable USB-OTG N900 or some other USB port adapter specific for your Android device.
4. Honeycomb 3.0+ or above.
5. Xbox 360 wireless dongle/receiver
See this article
Connect Xbox360 Wireless Controller to Android Devices
http://www.androidsim.net/2011/07/how-to-30-connect-xbox360-wireless.html
Bluez ime + js1 quick start to initially pair works great for the zeemote js1 gamepad
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DigitalMD said:
or you could forget bluetooth specialty drivers and custom devices and use something that already works, the Xbox 360 controller which has support built-in on the Flyer.
What you will need:
1. Xbox 360 wireless controller
2. An Android Emulator
3. micro USB to USB Female Cable USB-OTG N900 or some other USB port adapter specific for your Android device.
4. Honeycomb 3.0+ or above.
5. Xbox 360 wireless dongle/receiver
See this article
Connect Xbox360 Wireless Controller to Android Devices
http://www.androidsim.net/2011/07/how-to-30-connect-xbox360-wireless.html
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This is confirmed working on the Flyer/View? I thought that they didn't provide any power to USB devices, which would inhibit the receiver from working properly. Am I missing something?