Build quality getting me down. - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Accessories

I've had a Vodafone UK TP2 for about a month.
I'm using an InvisibleShield, but no case. The reason for that is that I wear jeans to work, not a jacket (in summer, at least) and the extra bulk of a case pushes the phone into unacceptable territory. I don't carry a briefcase or a man-bag or a backpack, either. All I carry in my jeans pockets are money (no wallet), a credit card, the remote-control for my car and my phone. I leave both my house and my car keys in my car. I REALLY hate being laden down with cr*p.
I'm pretty careful not to put my phone in a pocket with money, though sometimes I do forget and there are a couple of coins.
So, after a month in a fairly gentle environment, I have:
1) A piece of the fake chrome fascia round the screen has flaked off;
2) One of the lame speaker grilles on the rear has completely caved in; and:
3) Worst of all, today, the screen-covering right by the earpiece has started to peel up. I'm not talking about the InvisbleShield, I'm talking about the actual screen itself.
I don't think this is good enough. I had an iPhone 3g before this, and I treated it the same and it still looks good as new. I also have (right in front of me) three HTC winmo phones, going back more than two years, and they're fine, too (though I admit that one of them has the same flaking problem with the fake aluminium).
I really like this phone and I like my carrier (one of my major reasons for changing from 02/iPhone - Vodafone definitely has stronger coverage). But at this rate the TP2 will fall to pieces long before my contract expires.
I'm now using a nylon case that came with my Logitech mouse to protect the phone, but even that adds a tad more bulk than I want in my jeans pocket. Plus it's not exactly easy to whip it out of my pocket to answer a call.
Okay, nothing has affected the functionailty, but it's not nice having a phone that's starting to look battle-scarred after just a month!

You could've gotten a bum unit...get a replacement (Vodaphone does it without any effort if you are within the 30 day return/replacement). Why not get a case/wallet combo? http://myworld.ebay.com/wiwaycn/ has a few cases which has room for the TP, thus keeping it safe, and slots for money/creditcards/single keys.

Tx for that - I might ask Vodafone for a new one though I'm just outside 30 days.
As to the wallet, not for me. Way too bulky. A nice thin sock-thingy is whaty I need...

I would deffinately say you have a bum unit.
I have the same handset from the same supplier, i also always wear jeans (i hate being suited and booted) again for just over a month and it still looks brand new.

Prob a duff unit.
Had mine for a few months now, well the secound one any how. Now real wear marks apart from a smallmark on the back where i dropped it.
There are a few rubberised covers on ebay now as well.

I have a sprint TP2... one week old... the soft touch coating on the battery back cover around the stylus hole's edge is already worn away seem to be from my finger nail..... which as a guy, i barely have any

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hermes aluminium case?

I'm searching for a metal case for my new hermes. Anybody found one yet?
I tried it on ebay, but there are aluminium cases for wizard only.
signal killer
May I suggest that you don't buy a metal case for your Hermes. I am a long time Wizard owner (looking to buy a Hermes as soon as I can). I have had an aluminum case and always wondered what was killing my signal. If you do a search over in the Wizard forums you will see that those cases just kill your signal. Maybe the Hermes has some improvements, but I would be careful. Just thought I would save you from some frustration (and maybe some wasted money!) It's a shame, cause I love those cases as well.
Anyone found an aluminum case that would work yet? I have always hated leather cases never used an aluminum one, I just know I am gonna tear the screen up if I dont have something hard rotecting it while its in my pocket, basically I would be usin it in a manner like somebody would a sunglasses case, take it out when its in use, and put it back when its not..etc, and I'm not that important, if I miss a call due to bad signal, its no biggie.
Indeed. Aluminium does a good job of absorbing radiation. Sadly GSM is affected by it as well.
Well I haven't seen that at all with the Vario I get the same signal wether I have the case or not
Really? Vario was... a.... Wizard, was it?
Aye
You can find aluminium cases (silver or black) for the TyTN at www.pdair.com
i just received my PDAir aluminium case, it makes the device looks thicker. but at least u wont have to worry about cracking the LCD screen!
my previous ipaq pda and verizon vx6600 got LCD screen cracked due to sitting on it. i dont like to wear it on the belt, i like to put the pdaPhone in the pocket
I just received my aluminium case too. Here is a little information and some pictures I can provide.
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/doomer&article_id=4597663
I'd be very interested in any subjective assesments of the impact on signal strength, and battery life, as a result of using one of these cases.
I'd like one, but not if it significantly hampers the signal, or substantially drains the battery as a result of a need to run at higher transmission strength.
Until now ( exceed 12 hrs ), I didn't find any signal reduction. I have no problems calling out and accepting incoming calls while my hermes still wearing alumium case all the time.
I got mine PDAir case a couple of days ago. No reall problems really. nicely made, looks good (black one), and the belt clip is pretty good. Only one droped call, but I had one or two droped calls from home without the case, so I don't think it is the case. Overall I would recommend it.
If I get time over the weekend, I might post some hi rez photos of the black case with the Orange SPV 3100.
Ordered and received the black version from PDAir, I had ordered the invisible shield first, so my TyTN fit a bit too tight in the aluminum case cause of the shield..but it went in.
I am currently using this sucker so much that I really didn't like to have to flip the case open all the time to use it, I debated on removing the plastic window from the case, but just opted to throw it on the shelf within the first 15 minutes of opening the package.
I didt use it long enough to notice battery drain, but the signal strength was the same with or without the case, also the case hinges on the right hand side to allow it to remain in the case while using the keyboard..but it feels a bit weird, almost like its designed for a left handed person...hard to explain.
Well, I have had mine for about a week and I will say this,... THANK GOD! as I have dropped it since I've had the case and well,... IT WORKS!!!
I can get to all of the buttons AND even the antenna, it also ascut out for my lanyard that I use. Everything is accessable including the microSD card (why I don't know). It is a little difficult to get to some of the buttons with my big "sausage" fingers but it still serves the purpose that I need.
Unless I find a better case (which I haven't seen plans for) I sticking with this one.
PDAIR Great job!
I dropped my Tytn off the couch a few times after passin out while hangin out on IRC, the invisible shield worked very well...but I decided I would give the aluminum case another go..I removed the clear window and then thought the black case looked crappy around the silver phone, so I started to sand it down to polish it, I got all of the front cover sanded and part of the back, and went to see how it looked around the phone...I just held the phone and positioned the top cover over it, and then I noticed the screen flicker...I'm not sure if I missed this before I sanded it, because then I checked with different wallpapers and its not really noticeable with some and it only happens when the case is over it...kinda strange I thought, considering the phone has an aluminum bezel already around the screen from the factory, and I also did notice I would drop a bar on the signal if I wasn't in a strong area.
As many people making aftermarket stuff out of carbon fiber nowdays...I can't believe someone hasn't started making them for phone's/pda's
Its relatively cheap, and a lazy route of making them could be done by just vacuum forming one from an already made aluminum case.
What about Bluetooth? Does aluminium case shields it signal?
Got a black aluminium case from Boxwave. Looks and fits fine. Didn't notice any Bluetooth signal degradation so far.
BTW PDAir and Boxwave cases look identical - most likely both have the same OEM producer.
Got my aluminum case from dealone.com
Had my case since day two with my Cingy 8525. No problems noted, glad I have extra protection as I'm always bumping into things walking. Tables, chairs, etc. Mine is the monaco aluminum case in black. Absolutely love it!
http://www.amazon.com/Cingular-8525...s_sr_2/002-9456356-4411227?ie=UTF8&s=wireless
Just order 1 from there.

Howto Ruggedize the topaz?

@all,
since i am the sporting kind, i need a "usable" device- not one i need to pamper!
coming from the good old p3300 / artemis i am close to selling my topaz since the plane display constantly touches any surface that i carry it in, the back with its all shiny plastic is a pure (pun intended) pain!
all in all this device has far too much plastic, especially this terrible screen surface!, to even survive the next year, whereas my P3300 has lasted me a good 4 years with quite some battering.
calling the topaz a diamond surely is a joke: not even the slightest amount of solidity allowing any kind of resemblance with a diamond!!!
so, any remedies for that? (to keep me from selling it again!)
greetz
I have no idea. Maybe a nice case + screen protector? I know what you mean, though. My blueangel has lasted me 5 years and is still going strong, while the TD2 probobly will not last half that long.
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/htc-pure-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
this would sure be a solution...but i remember seeing an iphone having worn one of these for 2 months:
all contact points of iphone and shield were matted /scratches due to the housing constantly rubbing at those points
any experience on that point?
I've used a zagg screen protector only, which was very nice, but not the full body protectors.
i am selling it!
anybody interested in buying a well cared for topaz with full eplus guaranty from germany... ( contract free)
i am fed up with this gadget and returning to my p3300/spv m650
greetz
I know what you mean, my old P3300 with its recessed screen and mostly matt plastic body was fairly sturdy, although I did wear the silver part off on the back!
BUT, and its a big but, the P3300 is several years old, very slow, low capacity internal memory, poor screen (plus smaller) etc...
I wouldn't go back to it unless I had to, I've got the supplied screen protector on my TD2 and apart from the back (which I think we all can agree is terrible) it shows no signs of wear.
There are plenty if cases out there, try one or two out for size.
I have had my Topaz since April, I tend to keep it in a case and always use a screen protector, it has been dropped onto concrete (with and without case), got wet (in rain not full immersion) left in a hot car for 6 hours and sat on! Apart from 1 small ding in the top right corner you cannot tell it from new. I do get annoyed about the finger prints on the back though
I'm personally using a PDair silicone cas end a screen protector, these don't add too much bulk while giving a degree of protection. They will not protect from water or a lot of dust, but work fine for me. From what you say perhaps an aluminium case/sleeve similar to what I've seen for iPods would work?
Ehm... so why did you buy topaz since you are a sporting kind? It is quite obvious it is not designed for rock-climbing
AWESOME! look at my details...viva South Africa!
anyways, i'm loving my Topaz...and i'm interested in what price you would be keen on selling for... send me a pm (i'm based in Frankfurt am Main btw)
funny,
i am situated near essen!
greetz
p.s. pn
The google-fu is weak in this one
You are clearly looking for this website which specialises in ruggedised PDA and computer equipment.
Understand that in order to be able to withstand harsh environments, any electronic device will be lower specified (as high spec components produce more heat), be heavier and bulkier (to accommodate impact and water resistance), and more than likely less "every day" functional than a consumer-oriented product. You may, however, find that they include features not associated with consumer devices.
EDIT: I've just re-read your comment, and want to point out a common misconception regarding the properties of diamond. It is indeed a very hard substance substance, but that does not make it particularly strong. A diamond coating on the screen will definitely help stop scratches on the surface, but won't protect it from impact in the same way a rubberised coating would.
Hard substances resist abrasion; Strong substances resist deformation. A diamond cannot be scratched by any other known substance other than another diamond, but if you hit one with a hammer it will shatter.
On e-bay they sell a hard plastic rubberized case.
These add almost no bulk and it recesses your screen a bit.
Unfortunately, when I bought mine, it was only offered from Japan, so I still have not received it yet, but I have used them on other devices and they work great. In addition to the Zagg protector ofcourse.

[Q] Dell Streak 5: LCD Screen cracking issues?

Hi all Streak 5 owners,
I have ordered a Streak 5 for wifey and me yesterday. but am very concerned about the quality of the LCD screen which breaks easily based on postings online. Is it true? Did Dell do anything since launch to change its design/assembly to avoid this problem? I'm careful, but don't want it to break if I drop it say once on a carpeted floor which might happen over the course of a year..
I would like to hear from people who have had it over several months and if it runs fine. Coz most of the time people would post only if something negative happens. That's why I'm asking.
Thanks.
what do you mean exactly by lcd screen. the actual lcd unit only or the lcd + glass screen combo?
anyway I personally think that when came the day that good old Allfather Steve J. F'ker thought it would have been a nice idea to add an actual glass screen to his iphone we all got screwed big time. sure it's more resistent to scratches, but damn it's as fragile as, well, glass!
an item meant to stay all day with you in your pocket, car, desk, workplace, pub and whatnot simply cannot afford to use such fragile materials. and the hell to those ridiculous test with the average engadget writer stabbing devices with a pen, the bottomline is: you drop it, 50% chance you'll cry like a baby
Check stress tests on youtube
Sent from my Dell Streak
Couple of things
Look, I can tell you couple of things about the screen.
1. The Stress test, practically speaking, means NOTHING! you see, its how much bad treatment the glass can take.
That is exactly where they try to make it look like it can take on anything.
But, notice, that everything is like a controlled test rig!
they never tell you about the Falls/trips/Sit_on_it_effects!
2. You have to be ultra cautious & conscious while handling it,
in the sense, do NOT be clumsy!
Butter fingers is not funny here!!
Like crashdebug said,
the bottomline is: you drop it, 50% chance you'll cry like a baby​
Use it like you would use your laptop!
I mean you can bang all you want while typing and playing games and all,
but you do NOT want to drop it, while talking/pulling out of pocket.​Most probable scenarios where you may drop the phone:
Pulling out of the pocket/ Keeping it inside your pocket
While putting on charging/ removing from charging!
While receiving a call.
Ending a call.
Surprisingly while playing games/typing you are not so prone to drop your phone, (perhaps, cuz, you are so conscious about it!)
One thing more:
You should hear from the folks who dropped it too! to know what you should NOT do !!
(not that you would do any such thing on purpose!)
care,
Sony.
You better get a case (for whatever worth it is, still is a line between your phone and the ground.)
P.S.
anyway I personally think that when came the day that good old Allfather Steve J. F'ker thought it would have been a nice idea to add an actual glass screen to his iphone we all got screwed big time.​Lol, that is so true (and funny!) (hahaha)
The Streaks LCD itself is a bit on the weak side. The outer Gorilla Glass sounds nice but does very little to protect the LCD from bending. Most people that replace the LCD still have their Gorilla Glass intact.
I would recommend that you refrain from putting your streak in a pants pocket
and use a case that adds some support around the device. Mine cracked in my pocket just driving to the store and home. It must have bent when I sat in the car. Definitely not not a gel skin type case like I had Otterbox Impact Case = Bad . I now use an Otterbox Defender case ( Has a belt Clip too )
All bets are off if any device is ever dropped but the Streak is sensitive to bending due to its dimensions compared to a 'normal' phone so just be aware of it and you should be fine. It is an awesome phone/mini tablet.
crashDebug said:
anyway I personally think that when came the day that good old Allfather Steve J. F'ker thought it would have been a nice idea to add an actual glass screen to his iphone we all got screwed big time. sure it's more resistent to scratches, but damn it's as fragile as, well, glass!
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My current phone is a n900 and it has glass screen also. I have a rubberized outer cover and have dropped it a few times even though I'm very careful for the most part! Nothing has happened to it until now.
Thanks for the input everyone. I have bought two streaks, but thinking about selling my wife's as I'm pretty sure she will break it in a few days if not weeks
My 2 Cents
When I got my Streak, I was really worried about breaking the lcd, I carried it in a front empty khaki pants pocket, then got an Otterbox Defender Case.
Good: Dropped it twice on pavement with no damage to device, Great Protection/adds a little bulk but worth it.
Bad: Adds A little bulk to the device, the bely clip and case are kind of big on the belt, the drops were indirectly caused by the belt clip ejecting the phone while exiting a vehicle. would i even consider using the Streak without serious protection, NO WAY!
Cheers
BR
OTTERBOX COMMUTER WIT ZAGG SHIELD DROPPED IT FROM AROUND SIX FEET I WAS SICK BUT NO DAMMAGE AT ALL! GET A CASE NO DOUBT ABOUT IT
Dell Streak 5 problem - inside LCD prone to cracking
go to facebook or google search and search for "Dell streak problem" you will find it.
regards
Basically the streak screen isn't anymore fragile than any other phone, if you drop it from say over 4 foot onto a hard floor it will most likely break. Remember though the screens are only 28 pounds and very easy to replace yourself. I'm not scared of how fragile it is. It holds up pretty well to bumps and tumbles.
Alexanderbooth said:
Basically the streak screen isn't anymore fragile than any other phone, if you drop it from say over 4 foot onto a hard floor it will most likely break. Remember though the screens are only 28 pounds and very easy to replace yourself. I'm not scared of how fragile it is. It holds up pretty well to bumps and tumbles.
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I'm not sure what 28 pounds means. Is that all the force they can take in an impact?
I've got one of the Otterbox defender cases but I'm very careful where I put my phone. Despite that I once sent it flying out of my hand. It hit the carpeted floor like 5 feet away and there was no damage. I was very happy.
Great Britain Pounds 28 pounds roughly 45 US dollars.

[REVIEW] Cheap-a$$ waterproof cases

I had an amazon gift card to use up, and we're planning a road trip to a waterpark so I decided to use the gift card to try and find a waterproof/water-resistant solution for my lte. I wasn't going swimming with these, but I did want to protect my phone from the the occasional dunk or splash, and I didn't trust a ziplock bag to do the job. I also didn't want to spend a lot (otherwise I would have gotten the overboard case).
I ended up ordering the following cases;
BestDealUSA Waterproof Underwater Pouch Dry Bag Pack Case Cover for Cell Phone PDA Blue - $2.96
Waterproof Case for Apple iPhone 4, 4S - Also Works with iPod Touch, iPhone 3G, 3GS, & Other Smartphones - IPX8 Certified to 100 Feet - $4.57
Universal Waterproof Bag Case for Cell Phone / PDA, Blue - $0.01
Universal Waterproof Bag Case for Cell Phone / PDA, Black - $1.92
BestDealUSA Waterproof Underwater Pouch Dry Bag Pack Case Cover for Cell Phone PDA Blue
The plastic material seems strong on this case, and the seal seems like it would do a good job to keep the moisture out. The evo slides in and out easily, even with a tpu case, although it does it need to go in upside down if you want to take pictures - otherwise the camera is blocked by the opaque section of plastic, but this is not a big deal. There is a raised seal around the window of clear plastic (which takes up about 4/5ths of the phone screen) that makes pulling the unlock ring a little difficult, but not impossible. This is the biggest of the cases, with the most space around the phone. Screen responsiveness through the plastic is good, and the the window is clear, so its easy to see the phone screen. Lanyard runs through the width of the case, and seems very strong - I don't see it snapping or anything.
Waterproof Case for Apple iPhone 4, 4S - Also Works with iPod Touch, iPhone 3G, 3GS, & Other Smartphones - IPX8 Certified to 100 Feet
This one looks very similar to the higher priced overboard case and has great reviews. The areas surrounding the clear windows are puffy, as if it would allow the case to float. Unlike the other cases (which use a combination of two ziplock-type closure zips), this one has a plastic mechanical mechanism to squeeze and hold the opening shut like a vise. I don't know if I would trust this case to remain underwater for any length of time. It doesn't seem to seal as well as I would like, although the reviews all rave about how watertight it is. Having said that, the phone fits in this case perfectly with the tpu case, and even better without a case (upside down again), without being too snug, and the clear windows are exactly the size of the phone screen - only the capacitive buttons are hidden. Screen responsiveness through the plastic is good, and the the window is clear, so its easy to see the phone screen. The puffy areas around the clear screen also do a really good job of holding the phone in place, but makes it a bit difficult to press the power button. The lanyard that this case with end in what appears to be a thread that you loop through an opening in the case and seems like a good tug would snap it off.
Universal Waterproof Bag Case for Cell Phone / PDA, Black/Blue
I was only going to get the black one, but when I saw the blue one for a penny, I decided why not. These are identical cases, but one is black, and one is blue. These are the snuggest cases, and its a challenge to get the phone in, even without the tpu case. The plastic material the cases are made of is very tacky on the inside, so the phone tends to get stuck when you put it in or take it out. The plastic also seems thinner on these than the other cases, and the seals around the edge don't seem very reliable. Once the phone is in though, it's the most compact and pocketable of all of the cases. These cases do not have a clear window on both sides, so if you want to use the camera, then the phone screen will be covered by the translucent side of the case. It's not too bad, and the screen is still visible, but in bright situations, this could be an issue. Having said that, screen responsiveness is very good with these cases, most likely due to the thinness of the plastic. Lanyard goes through hole in the case and seems strong enough. These also come with an arm band that may fit you if you have the arms of a small child. They're really, really small.
Final thoughts - All of these would probably do a good job to keep water and moisture off of the phone (or even sand if you're going to the beach), and I think any of them would be fine to protect against accidental splashing. If I was going diving or swimming with my phone, I would probably shell out the extra cash for the overboard, or at least do some serious waterproof testing on these first. As it stands, I think I'll end up using the first case - Not too crazy about the blue, but I think it will do the best job of keeping the phone dry, and I won't need to worry about going down the log flume with it in my pocket or around my neck (like a tourist, lol).
Hey man, thanks for the reviews. I didn't even know you could get waterproof cases/bags so cheap.
I'll have to pick one up now.
I do suggest you update the prices in your post to include the shipping though for a better cost comparison (even though the difference here is minimal). So many venders inflate the shipping to make up the difference for a $0.01 item.
p.s. I'm going to pick up the first one as well since it looks like I can easily have it in my pocket as a just in case. (I'm in Florida and we have crazy torrential thunderstorms out of no where, so if I'm out jogging, I can have it in my pocket just in case.
Though expensive, Lifeproof cases are really nice. Ive known many people to go out in the ocean and take pictures under water with them.
Just an update, I did end up using that first case, and although it never went underwater, it got splashed on alot. Phone stayed dry, it fit great in the bathing suit pocket, and even took some great pics through the case. Would definitely recommend.
Quick update from me too. I ended up ordering this case: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058NXWPY/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00
Used on a canoe trip. The canoe flipped and it went underwater for around a minute or so, and air dried after, did a great job. Would recommend this one!
i am using the first case, blue, as well. Works fine, keeps my phone dry in a 10ft deep pool. Takes picture fine too. Thanks for the review OP.
I actually prefer these right here. They come in different sizes I prefer the 6-1/2 x 3-1/4I can't confirm they work in 100 ft of water because I have no reason to be that deep ever in my life, but for the average rainy day, screwing around by the pool or working out these work great. The best part is the patented purple zip technology that lets you visibly confirm the case is sealed. Also pics turn out great. Good luck in your decision
Asadullah said:
I actually prefer these right here. They come in different sizes I prefer the 6-1/2 x 3-1/4I can't confirm they work in 100 ft of water because I have no reason to be that deep ever in my life, but for the average rainy day, screwing around by the pool or working out these work great. The best part is the patented purple zip technology that lets you visibly confirm the case is sealed. Also pics turn out great. Good luck in your decision
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Hahaha that had me laughing so much once I read the whole thing then clicked on the link. Good one!
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[Q] How many of you have a warped device and after how long

Just bought a couple of XZU. One for me and the other for my wife. Both of us love the device so far. But today i came across an issue that got me really worried. Apparently the device is very fragile and warps just from regular day to day usage. So, i was wondering how do you carry the device and how many of you have a warped device just by carrying it in your pants pocket. And what measures should i take to preserve my precious device. The sony blog is flooded with complains of spontaneous cracking of the screen which is related i guess. These devices retail in my country for around 300 USD. Considering its config i thought it was a no brainer to buy it. But now i am really worried. So to summerise, how fragile the device is really and what measures should i take to protect its integrity. Sorry if i am asking something that's already been discussed. Will really appreciate any input.
I've had my first one for well over a year now, and the second for 4 or 5 months.
Neither are warped or bent, both have taken dives out of my truck on to concrete. The last dive did split the top plastic bezel and broke my flip case. The flip case is the only protection that they have, and I don't always use it. The device is either in a cargo pocket (if I'm at work) or front pocket if I'm out and about / on the town
Edit:
That been said, it is 2 sheets of very thin class in a aluminium frame
Thanks for the reply. Appreciate it. Judging from the lack of responses i guess the issue might not be as big as i thought it to be. well lets see what happens.
Had mine since March and have no problems
Been carrying it in my back Jean pocket, jacket pocket, man purse, etc...
I don't use a case either...
ShadowVlican said:
Had mine since March and have no problems
Been carrying it in my back Jean pocket, jacket pocket, man purse, etc...
I don't use a case either...
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Good to know dude. Eases my mind. Thanks for the reply
Mines twisted pretty bad from being in my front pocket, sitting down, etc. When I place it flat on a table it wobbles, but I think it's amusing. It honestly doesn't bother me one bit.
Lol, good for you then mate. As long as its fuctional everything is fine I guess.
Hope this helps...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Rf2q4b-24
Lol,good one

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