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I'm new to the forums so please forgive 'newbie' type questions. I have a friend in Hong Kong this week looking for a Hermes based device for me to use in the States. He found the Dopod 838 Pro at a decent price. Only problem, they are out of the English versions. I don't mind not having the manual however he was told that when powered on the device will be in Chinese.
So, is there more to switching this to English then just changing software configuration? Will this need a new ROM image installed? What other downsides are there to buying a chinese based phone and converting it to english? keys? handwriting recognition? Am I better off holding off and looking for the english version?
If someone knows of a place to pick up the English version of the Dopod 838 Pro, please email me.
Thanks
David
You can flash an english (WWE) version and all the software will be in english. Your hardware keyboard will have chinese signs, but it's a standard QWERTY keyboard that can be used also in english without problems. The English manual is on the FTP in pdf format, and handwriting recognition is something handled by the rom (software) so after flahing an english ROM into it you will have a complete english device. If the price is ok, I'd go for it without hesitating. I also recommend you to spend some time reading the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
Thanks for the quick response. I'll look for the FTP (new to forums so haven't figured out where to find everything yet). Only concern I have about this, is when turning on the device it will be in Chinese. How do I navigate through the first time setup menus and then get to wherever i need to be to accept the rom upgrade?
Do each of the ROMs posted come with the installation tools as well?
Thanks again
David
pof said:
You can flash an english (WWE) version and all the software will be in english. Your hardware keyboard will have chinese signs, but it's a standard QWERTY keyboard that can be used also in english without problems. The English manual is on the FTP in pdf format, and handwriting recognition is something handled by the rom (software) so after flahing an english ROM into it you will have a complete english device. If the price is ok, I'd go for it without hesitating. I also recommend you to spend some time reading the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
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SteinyD said:
Thanks for the quick response. I'll look for the FTP (new to forums so haven't figured out where to find everything yet).
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The wiki has almost everything you need to know, and best of all is that you can EDIT the pages and add the information you believe is missing, it's a collaborative tool, so I encourage you (and everyone reading this) to edit the wiki pages and fill them with info, so everyone can benefit.
Start by reading the section "Hermes for beginners" which will help you getting started with your new device:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_For_Beginners
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Only concern I have about this, is when turning on the device it will be in Chinese. How do I navigate through the first time setup menus and then get to wherever i need to be to accept the rom upgrade?
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You don't even need to turn it on to perform the rom upgrade, just put the device in BOOTLOADER mode (instructions also in the wiki):
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Resets
Connect the device to your computer using USB cable, and double click on the EXE file to perform ROM upgrade, its a typical windows installer were you just have to click "NEXT, NEXT, NEXT..." several times.
All available ROM upgrades are also in the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
You need to download an WWE (World Wide English) version.
SteinyD said:
Do each of the ROMs posted come with the installation tools as well?
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Yes, it's a very easy proces which will take about 20minutes.
As I said before, the wiki is your friend, After you've read the "Hermes for Beginners", you can go to the "Upgrading FAQs":
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeFAQ
And if you have any problems upgrading, read the "Common upgrading problems" page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems
Good luck!
Thanks for the quick and detailed response! It sounds like I'll need to see some prompts on the device ino order to get it to bootloader. As it is in chinese and I don't know chinese at all I'm not sure I'll know how to navigate through it.
I also understand some of the physical keyboard buttons are different than the english version.
My friend in Hong Kong is waiting for the 'thumbs up' to buy the non-english version. I'm still a bit hesitant ... need some convincing today so I can tell him what to do before leaving Hong Kong tomorrow. Unless, someone knows where he can find an english one??!!
Thanks
David
pof said:
SteinyD said:
Thanks for the quick response. I'll look for the FTP (new to forums so haven't figured out where to find everything yet).
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SteinyD said:
Only concern I have about this, is when turning on the device it will be in Chinese. How do I navigate through the first time setup menus and then get to wherever i need to be to accept the rom upgrade?
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You don't even need to turn it on to perform the rom upgrade, just put the device in BOOTLOADER mode (instructions also in the wiki):
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Resets
Connect the device to your computer using USB cable, and double click on the EXE file to perform ROM upgrade, its a typical windows installer were you just have to click "NEXT, NEXT, NEXT..." several times.
Good luck!
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SteinyD said:
It sounds like I'll need to see some prompts on the device ino order to get it to bootloader. As it is in chinese and I don't know chinese at all I'm not sure I'll know how to navigate through it.
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Bootloader is in english in all the devices, the operating system (WM5) language it's just software, it's on the ROM. But when you enter in the bootloader the OS has still not started, so it will be in english even if you buy a chinese, spanish, german or whatever device.
What about the keyboard on the Chinese version of the Dopod Pro?
pof said:
SteinyD said:
It sounds like I'll need to see some prompts on the device ino order to get it to bootloader. As it is in chinese and I don't know chinese at all I'm not sure I'll know how to navigate through it.
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Bootloader is in english in all the devices, the operating system (WM5) language it's just software, it's on the ROM. But when you enter in the bootloader the OS has still not started, so it will be in english even if you buy a chinese, spanish, german or whatever device.
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SteinyD said:
What about the keyboard on the Chinese version of the Dopod Pro?
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There's a "search" button in the upper part of this forum, learn to use it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=59654
Ask your friend to buy O2 Trion instead in HK... they will flash it for you and the price is much lower than dopod838pro.
Since you live in US... warranty dont matter..right ?
hi guys.....i get htc x7500 with wm6 spanish on it....but i dont understand this language....can somebody help me to put this device in english?patch something?thank you in advance
frantech said:
hi guys.....i get htc x7500 with wm6 spanish on it....but i dont understand this language....can somebody help me to put this device in english?patch something?thank you in advance
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how about if you flash a rom in english? that's what i would do.
another way is to install real vga (lets you change the resolution and the langueage)
hope i helped you.
I TRY IT
TNX MAN ...BUT STILL ONLY SPANISH OPTIONS
English Language Pack
English Language Pack Is Missing
frantech said:
TNX MAN ...BUT STILL ONLY SPANISH OPTIONS
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From those pre-technological dark ages there is something called dictionary!!! Some visionaries put those in Internet and now can be found many spanish-english dictionaries online.
frantech said:
TNX MAN ...BUT STILL ONLY SPANISH OPTIONS
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flash pk 3.0 ROM its fast (i bet faster than the rom you currentlly have), has more options and its better overall and the most important thing it's in english.
download if from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=346221
first put the olipro spl so you make your expensive athena in a nice brick.
download it from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351964&highlight=olipro
remember do install olipro hard-spl first then install pk 3.0 rom and you are all done.
if you need any more help you can send me a PM or an email and i will reply back ASAP.
good luck.
also make sure you read the whole wiki page here is the link
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Athena
kurtslashmx said:
also make sure you read the whole wiki page here is the link
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Athena
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You forgot to mention to him that it's VERY important that he has a fully charged battery before he performs any of the process mentioned to him. And to make sure if he's doing it from his laptop that it's also running on AC/DC and not battery power. Come back and tell us about PK 3 which by the way I use (Fast and Sweet)
frantech
tnx guys...so i have ATHE100.....wm6 SO CE 5.2.1238(compilation 17745.0.2.3)
rom-2.21.412.1
radio-1.50.00.00
i dont know this-32.83.7020.20h
-------2.21.412.101
Im waiting for your answers if i have to do due your instuctions
tnx man...so i have ATHE100.....wm6 SO CE 5.2.1238(compilation 17745.0.2.3)
rom-2.21.412.1
radio-1.50.00.00
i dont know this-32.83.7020.20h
-------2.21.412.101
Im waiting for your answers if i have to do due your instuctions
frantech said:
tnx man...so i have ATHE100.....wm6 SO CE 5.2.1238(compilation 17745.0.2.3)
rom-2.21.412.1
radio-1.50.00.00
i dont know this-32.83.7020.20h
-------2.21.412.101
Im waiting for your answers if i have to do due your instuctions
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What are you waiting for? All the information is available and the links have been posted above.
Either flash PK3.0 or WM6.1
frantech
i tried guys to instal hard spl... i follow the steps till my athena ask me to install enter bootloaderexe and then jump spl exe, and after nothing.... error 260 connection...
i thing i have seen on the screen SPL 1.01 .... or something like this into bootscreen for 1 second....maybe i have to use RUU WRAPPER ?
i dit it finaly!!!!!!!! thank you guys! i will tell you about it...i"m in english language
i used athena unlocker by olipro...only first step and then oficial english wm6....its working very well. now Im wondering if can i put on it pk3 or wm6.1?which is the best?tnx guys....
frantech said:
i used athena unlocker by olipro...only first step and then oficial english wm6....its working very well. now Im wondering if can i put on it pk3 or wm6.1?which is the best?tnx guys....
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pk 3.0 all the way. or wait for pk4.0 its coming but i dont know when.
congrats. now keep on reading its the only way to learn.
Hi all,
I'm new here, I've just buy a Xda Neo (like qtek s200) from Germany, this is brand from O2.
I want to change S.O. to WM6 possibly to Italian Language.
I've read the upgrade guide, all ok, now I've an idea on how to work.
The question is on wich ROM must use...
How I can choose? What I must check first to download a rom?
Thanks to all.
slim_s200 said:
Hi all,
I'm new here, I've just buy a Xda Neo (like qtek s200) from Germany, this is brand from O2.
I want to change S.O. to WM6 possibly to Italian Language.
I've read the upgrade guide, all ok, now I've an idea on how to work.
The question is on wich ROM must use...
How I can choose? What I must check first to download a rom?
Thanks to all.
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It depends all on what you want. All roms here in this section of the forum may be usable for you. The best idea is to read a bit in every thread to see which advantages and which tools are in that rom. Then you can decide what is important for you.
A good rom to start with - but this is only my very personal opinion!!! - is the italian flavour of gullums Coffie rom...test it, if you like and read carefully how to do everything! Welcome to Prophet mobile 6
invd said:
It depends all on what you want. All roms here in this section of the forum may be usable for you. The best idea is to read a bit in every thread to see which advantages and which tools are in that rom. Then you can decide what is important for you.
A good rom to start with - but this is only my very personal opinion!!! - is the italian flavour of gullums Coffie rom...test it, if you like and read carefully how to do everything! Welcome to Prophet mobile 6
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Hi,
thanks a lot for your reply. But for hardware revision, G3, G4, ecc, there is not differences? I can download any rom and test it?
g3 is very different from g4, never confuse them or your phone will not work if you flashed the wrong ROM
slim_s200 said:
Hi,
thanks a lot for your reply. But for hardware revision, G3, G4, ecc, there is not differences? I can download any rom and test it?
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Yes, you can...but be careful when you are flashing: you have to use an appropriate flashing tool (ROMUpdateUtility_NV_G3.exe or ROMUpdateUtility_NV_G4.exe, apply to newer roms). Just keep an eye on that
One more advice: If you decide to use Cloudyfas (really really great) Prophet ShadoW 2.0 TE, you should flash Radio ROM 2.19.xx first (you can find it hereftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Prophet/Prophet-roms/Radio_ROMs/).
Otherwise you may have battery drain or bluetooth issues...
So, have fun!
Thanks!
How to check the version?
slim_s200 said:
Thanks!
How to check the version?
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when you reboot your device you can see the SPL version (and some other info) in red numbers in the upper left corner. If this ends with .000 or .0000 you have G3, if it is .001 or .0001 it is G4. But you can find infos like that easily in this forum, just search a bit around...
Hi guys
I am pretty new in ppc stuff, so i really need your help plz.
I got htc tytn herm200 with rom version : 1.34.631.14, I bought it about 6 months ago.
I have wm 5.0 and i am sick of it because of slow speed and other bugs
I really would like to install new version of Windows Mobile how do i do that ?
can anybody help me and tell me each step clearly because I don't want to brick my PPC and I am already broke now.
PLZ HELP ME
THANXXX
asadmari said:
Hi guys
I am pretty new in ppc stuff, so i really need your help plz.
I got htc tytn herm200 with rom version : 1.34.631.14, I bought it about 6 months ago.
I have wm 5.0 and i am sick of it because of slow speed and other bugs
I really would like to install new version of Windows Mobile how do i do that ?
can anybody help me and tell me each step clearly because I don't want to brick my PPC and I am already broke now.
PLZ HELP ME
THANXXX
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You can search here dude
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274698
There is SO much information on this forum and in the wiki about this that it AMAZES me the amount of people who want it handed to them on a silver platter.... This is what the search function is for.....
thanxx
I have looked that page already and I found some roms and I tried to install them when it goes to install it says from this image to other image and i click next than my phone goes on hibernation/standby and on my computer i get an error saying CONNECTION ERROR
I tried on xp as well as on vista but samething and my phone is ROGERS.CA
any suggestions ??
asadmari said:
...any suggestions ??
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Read the wiki, and through a bunch of the threads here in the forums, there is a bit more to it than just running a program. Unless your just upgrading to the factory shipped rom.
You don't want to brick your phone! If your having troubles now, just imagine how it will be if your phone doesn't work at all!
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
Hi all,
I got a Nike form a friend. It has a original Dutch HTC rom on it, i think.
I want to upgrade it a little. I've looked through the forum but can't get figured out wat to do.
I want to backup the original ROM
I want to upgrade the radio
I need to hardspl
I want a WM 6.5 based Dutch ROM
Can someone point me to the right locations where i can find the appropriate files and instructions.
Many thanks,
Hans
pinobird said:
Hi all,
I got a Nike form a friend. It has a original Dutch HTC rom on it, i think.
I want to upgrade it a little. I've looked through the forum but can't get figured out wat to do.
I want to backup the original ROM
I want to upgrade the radio
I need to hardspl
I want a WM 6.5 based Dutch ROM
Can someone point me to the right locations where i can find the appropriate files and instructions.
Many thanks,
Hans
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Hoi Hans, I'm gonna try to help you, but it's important for me to make sure which device you have, because there are a lot look a like's but it's just another phone, to make sure which device you own just take a look under your battery and tell me if you have a nike100 or another version.
The second thing I need to know, does your phone have a simlock.
Greetz,
It's a NIKI100 and is not simlocked
pinobird said:
Hi all,
I got a Nike form a friend. It has a original Dutch HTC rom on it, i think.
I want to upgrade it a little. I've looked through the forum but can't get figured out wat to do.
I want to backup the original ROM
I want to upgrade the radio
I need to hardspl
I want a WM 6.5 based Dutch ROM
Can someone point me to the right locations where i can find the appropriate files and instructions.
Many thanks,
Hans
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you can start from here http://www.shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=windows mobile&model=Nike
pinobird said:
Hi all,
I got a Nike form a friend. It has a original Dutch HTC rom on it, i think.
I want to upgrade it a little. I've looked through the forum but can't get figured out wat to do.
I want to backup the original ROM
I want to upgrade the radio
I need to hardspl
I want a WM 6.5 based Dutch ROM
Can someone point me to the right locations where i can find the appropriate files and instructions.
Many thanks,
Hans
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Hola hans, any news on your plans? I just "revived" my old nike today after beeing in a drawer for years, and I must say, it´s been a full success and it only took me less than an hour to do so. Now I even have WinMo 6.5.x and "sense-like" tabs