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Has anyone seen or uses a similar application to jetware mobile to enhance the bluetooth on your PDA??
I use BatteryStatus, It can place a (bluetooth, wifi) shortcut on today....
Have a look also to Ilauncher....
With that you can have what ever icon you want on your today....
So bluetooth, wifi, shortcuts to other program ecc.....
You can also edit the icon with your own...
That is a very nice app...
Thanks for the reply but what I am actually looking for is similar to jetware which adds extra profiles to the bluetooth stack not icons, it helps with devices or bluetooth car kits that can read sms etc
Battery status does not actually add anything or extend the bluetooth stack.
I wonder if we can contact the author of the jetware extension to release the source code. He's obviously not doing anything with it anymore.
Top! UP! UP!
Yep UP! i'm also looking for a way of extending the BT stacks functionallity without having to replace the stack itself. Perhaps we really should try to contact the author of jetware
No other app in this world to function like Jetware extension?
Woody_XDA said:
Has anyone seen or uses a similar application to jetware mobile to enhance the bluetooth on your PDA??
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may i ask why are you looking for a similar one and not use this one?
i am asking 'cose i found myself long time ago that is causing some problems
with the BT communication....do you have the same problems?
In my case there are some minor problems with BT connection and it also does not deliver entire functionallity that i require - like PBAP and other stuff
Same here. It's not finished and the developer just kinda dissapeared two years ago. Sooo we're looking for someone to take over. Someone please take over on this! There could be a lot of money involved. I would pay up to $100 to get this done!
I'm on the case
Also, what is PBAP?
Ok I think I've found everything I need to get started on this. Since I don't have a device to test this with, I need to know what feature you think would be easiest to implement or what feature you want the most. ie: List contacts, list messages, etc.
This way, I can focus on implementing this one thing, and once it's working i'll know i'm on the right track and can move on from there.
maybe "Pocket Bluetooth Tools" is what u'r looking 4 ?
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maybe "Pocket Bluetooth Tools" is what u'r looking 4 ?
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i'm gonna go try this on my pioneer bluetooth
*update* pocket bluetooth works perfect with my pioneer in-car bt unit.
HI guys
Just wondering does Jetware 1.31 work well enough with car kits? I tried my Polaris with the Alpine KCE-350BT and it doesn't work so am about to test it using Jetware. Just wanted to know do you need to run Jetware each time or just for the initial phone book upload? Once the contacts are uploaded i think it should work properly without running Jetware correct?
Just can't really place anything on the today screen or a shortcut, so interested to hear if there is anything else better.
thanks,
ink0gnito said:
maybe "Pocket Bluetooth Tools" is what u'r looking 4 ?
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this didn't seem to work on my HTC TC.
Anyone else close to a working alternative? I really need something to replace OBEX and use the PBAP format to upload contacts to Alpine car kit.
Are there any registry fixes or does WM6.1 get around the problem as claimed by MS.
Cheers,
I can report that theJetware 1.31 works perfectly on my Orbit II with Parrot 3200LS car kit (use the Disable Synchro phone profile and then send contacts via Jetware).
KeithXP said:
I can report that theJetware 1.31 works perfectly on my Orbit II with Parrot 3200LS car kit (use the Disable Synchro phone profile and then send contacts via Jetware).
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How do you go about disabling synchro phone profile - is it the same with touch cruise?
I never really 'got' Jetware. Do you just need to send contacts once to the car kit? Also i assume you are meant to toggle bluetooth on/off using the Jetware shortcuts, not the normal bluetooth??
Thanks- i'm going to go bakc to the shop and test it now i've got a 6.1 Rom on, as the OBEX was a problem so perhaps with this turned off in adv. config. it may work (fingers crossed).
When you go to pair the phone on the Parrot, you should see 'Disable Synchro' in the list of phone types available. Select this and then proceed with pairing. Once paired, you can go into the Jetware extension (Contacts area) and Send all your contacts. The huge plus is that if you use automatic synch, you will get duplicate entries for every phone number held for a given contact. If you use the Jetware Extension to send contacts, you get one entry per contact, with all the numbers correctly identified as mobile, home, work.
Then when you dial, you say the contact name, then 'home' or 'work' etc. If you use voice dialling this is essential, otherwise you have to record every number individually (voice tag "John Doe home", "John Doe work" instead of one tag "John", then "mobile" or "home" when prompted for number type).
I hope that makes sense, but since your message is two weeks old (sorry, haven't been here for a while) you may have it figured out.
AFter all that, it seems the developers at Jetware have given up. They don't respond to email and the link to purchase the software is broken/dead. That's a bummer as I have lost my activation code and just got a new phone....
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When you go to pair the phone on the Parrot, you should see 'Disable Synchro' in the list of phone types available. Select this and then proceed with pairing. Once paired, you can go into the Jetware extension (Contacts area) and Send all your contacts.
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Thanks for the reply - I have never seen this option of 'disable synchro' anywhere on the phone, jetware options or on the car kit interface.
It seems to be working well enough now, but the phone book did get corrupted and couldn't fix it till i paired another phone then mine again. (contacts were mixed up - some first name last name, and didn't show /H or /M for home or mobile etc but seem ok now).
Part of it could be having to be patient with the Alpine BT kit, as it takes a while 'updating' on pairing to copy all the info again. Still doesn't work as fast or as reliably as i'd hoped, but probably good enough. May not have this phone forever, but don't want to get another one yet.
It's a shame they aren't supporting their product any more. Hopefully someone else could improve it or write something better, as the one annoying thing now is that i can't put the phone into sleep mode when i press the button - keeps powering back on to full lit screen, every few mins which wastes the battery as well as distracting when the phone is in the car mount- now i just have to lock the device as a workaround.
Hi all,
In my Renault BT Car Kit (originally designed by Parrot) it seems to be impossible to access my phone's contacts. I have had it working with one of the earliest Tom Codon ROMs by changing a setting in the advanced settings, bet ever after I have not been able to get it working again.
I have searched the forum several times, but it seems that I am not looking good enough.
The problem is not in my car, since I never changed it's ROM, and my wife's phone (Elf) is working great.
My phone is working great otherwise.
Tanks,
TC.
When you paired the phone with the "car" did you answered Yes to the question where you are asked to allow access to the phone contacts?
Thanks! That would be something hard to overlook , but sadly, there is no such question. Neither from the phone, nor fron the 'car'. The 'car' gives <empty> when accessing names. I have tried copying contacts to the SIM, but that also has the same result.
I have tried many (many! also the original from the provider) different ROMS the past year or so, and all of them have the same 'problem'.
When my wife purchased the Elf, the 'car' allowed it immediately, just as her previous phone (some samsung thing). It is just with the Nike that it has trouble with.
Also the Diamond of my collegue that drives the car every now and then, communicates without hassle.
The stupid this is that it has worked with a previous ROM, and I cannot find (in my memory or the internet) how to activate it again. It's more an annoyment than really really a nessesity (is that a proper word ?). I have also been looking into the advanced configuration of both the Elf and the Nike to spot a difference, but nothing seems available.
I am thinking of calling the 'car' "Christine", and just stop trying, but as a technician, I want to have this working, because it has worked before.
thanks,
T.
I assume that your wife's name is not Christine!
Did you try with WM 6.1 and 6.5, including the original ROM? Did you tried to upgrade the carkit firmware? I am using a Parrot CK-3100LCD carkit but I have no problems with my Niki since the first time I was using it.
The pairing process was started from both sides or only from one side?
No, my wife is not Christine... but Stephen King wrote a book once...
The pairing always starts from both ways, I cannot find 'Christine' from any phone without starting the pairing from both sides.
All different WM versions available for Nike have the same problem. (I have had about 30 different ROMs on my phone, just for the fun of it, only 1 has worked properly after changing 'something' in the advanced settings)
I really have no idea what kind of parrot it is, because it has been re-branded by Renault while integrating it into my Clio. I have for that same reason not tried to upgrade the ROM in 'Christine'.
Strange, very strange what's happening. Did you tried some other radio ROMs?
strange... I know...
I have been on the road for a couple of days, have installed a new ROM prior to leaving, but still the same problem occurs: I can call whomever I like, via the phone itself, and I can answer the phone normally by using the the car's controls.
In the Netherlands it is not allowed to use the phone other then via a carkit, so dialing a number is not really an option here.
I have tried several person's ROMs, also radios (although I have not been able to find a link to the recently used 1.71 version, anyone a link?), and all have the same, except for that once...
thanks!
Did you tried with another Nike (from a friend or coworker) to see what's happens? Do you see (on the car screen) the digits or the name of the callers? Did you tried pairing only from one side? Did you contact Renault for a firmware upgrade of the bluetooth carkit?
A coworker has the same problem with the original ROM in a different car (Volkswagen),
I see only <empty> when accessing the name area from the car,
I have tried pairing on different ways, all with the same result
I have not contacted Renault or Parrot , since ny coworker has the same problem AND it has worked (once) before.
It is just a strange, not really big issue, but I would like to have it out of the way.
Hi Guys,
I'm also a proud owner of the HTC HD2, but I've got 2 problems with it.
The first:
I use the BlueTooth connectivity to connect to my hands-free set (In car hands free set on the Alfa MiTo which is also Windows Mobile powered). Now here's the problem. Situation:
I go to work, turn on my BlueTooth, get in the car and it connects fine. When I'm at work I turn BlueTooth off (to save battery power). At the end of the day, when I'm going back home, I perform the exact same routine, but this time when I'm trying to enable BlueTooth the HD2 crashes. It freezes all together. Only the hardware buttons continue to work, except, the long-hold on the ON/OFF-button to turn off the device doesn't work. Now I think you all agree that this is pretty anoying, cause I have to remove the battery to reset the HD2.
Second:
I use my HD2 as my wakeup alarm in the morning. Because I'm a deep sleeper I set 2 alarms on the device, just to make sure ;-) Often I'm awake on the first alarm and I switch the second one Off using the sense interface and pressing the 'On - Off' slider in the Alarms menu. Guess what? The second alarm still rings at the time it was orginally set!
Does anyone recognise these problems and/or do you have any advise on how to solve these problems?
[Device specs]
Radio Rom: 2.04.50.22_2
ROM: 1.43.404.1 (70124) NLD (26 october 2009)
Manila: 2.5.19202525.0
I'm having the same problem with the alarm, don't know a solution but im looking for a free alternative app.
I am having a problem with the alarm as well. Also my alarm is now gives the alarm of an calender appointment. I tried changing the sound in both the HTC sense and windows mobile configuration screen. The configuration goes well but when testing, it still only gives the appoinment sound (2 pings). Has anyone encountered this mismatch issue and know how solve it?
I have the problem to turn on the bluetooth also. After I click the button to on the bluetooth, the bluetooth bar dimmed and hang up the hold Comm Manager. A few minutes later, it said "can't turn on bluetooth". It doesn't happen when I turn on the bluetooth right after I switch on my HD2.
hkwylai said:
I have the problem to turn on the bluetooth also. After I click the button to on the bluetooth, the bluetooth bar dimmed and hang up the hold Comm Manager. A few minutes later, it said "can't turn on bluetooth". It doesn't happen when I turn on the bluetooth right after I switch on my HD2.
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I have the exact same problem.
other problems with bluetooth
My Elf, Hermes all work fine with my Cars built in hands free (BMW6 Series) however the new HD2 connects fine...but the audio quality is crap to the point of having to use the headset shipped with the device.
Other problems....VOLUME CONTROL...or the lack of it. HAd to reset my phone just to be able to use the side switch within HTC music player and on speaker phone...can't turn the volume down.
same for me
having the same bluetooth problems, comm manager hangs when trying to re-enable bt. find the alarm pretty naff. need to get a proper alarm program, any suggestions?
Same BT issues here, plus phone drops calls when connected to car's built-in BT. Also unable to use phone as a modem using BT connection to my laptop - but works fine when connected via usb cable.
Alarm selected sound also not playing, but getting just the 2 pings no matter what sound I choose. Hope HTC is aware of these problems and addressing them with Rom update soon.
[having the same bluetooth problems, comm manager hangs when trying to re-enable bt. find the alarm pretty naff. need to get a proper alarm program, any suggestions?]
G-Alarm is a very nice program. Only downside is, you must buy it.
I mailed HTC, but those ******* at HTC support center just give you a basic nonsence answer. The BT issue is a problem of my car and not the phone (according to them). The alarm-issue they don't reply on.
However I did found a workaround for the BT-re-enable issue. Turn of the BT, then wait for about 5 seconds before you re-enable the BT. This should work. I think the problem is, that the slider is already at the "off" point, but in fact the the connections with BT are still being terminated.
The rest of the issue with BT I gave up. I reported a complaint to HTC, but not much change I ever here anything of that. Just wait until they finally bring out that 1.61 rom en hope they fixed the BT-problems in that radio rom.
Hope this can help. I got my BT working again
If you have installed TOMTOM it can be the problem. Found this in another forum:
TOMTOM places a new BT dlls under the windows folder that I had to remove:
\Windows\BtSdkCE30.dll
\Windows\BtCoreIf.dll
You can either ename them or remove them and then soft restart your Touch Pro 2/HD2 and everything will go back to normal.
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G-Alarm is a very nice program. Only downside is, you must buy it.
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There's an old version of G-Alarm that is free. The last free version is 1.5.1 and I got mine in one of these PPC freewares sites. Anyway, I use this application so much that I think I'll buy it.
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hkwylai said:
I have the problem to turn on the bluetooth also. After I click the button to on the bluetooth, the bluetooth bar dimmed and hang up the hold Comm Manager. A few minutes later, it said "can't turn on bluetooth". It doesn't happen when I turn on the bluetooth right after I switch on my HD2.
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me to (((
please help
Same BT problem here, the two TomTom files rename done.
Bluetooth hang
MrWortel said:
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I go to work, turn on my BlueTooth, get in the car and it connects fine. When I'm at work I turn BlueTooth off (to save battery power). At the end of the day, when I'm going back home, I perform the exact same routine, but this time when I'm trying to enable BlueTooth the HD2 crashes. It freezes all together. Only the hardware buttons continue to work, except, the long-hold on the ON/OFF-button to turn off the device doesn't work. Now I think you all agree that this is pretty anoying, cause I have to remove the battery to reset the HD2.
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Same problem 4 me...very anoying......and no TOMTOM installed!!!!!
ROM 1.48.408.1 (ITA) 71294
RADIO VERS 2.05.51.05_2
MANILA 2.5.19211619.0
SAman1 said:
Same BT issues here, plus phone drops calls when connected to car's built-in BT. Also unable to use phone as a modem using BT connection to my laptop - but works fine when connected via usb cable.
Alarm selected sound also not playing, but getting just the 2 pings no matter what sound I choose. Hope HTC is aware of these problems and addressing them with Rom update soon.
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Idd I have the same problems, well that bluetooth 'crashes' and after a few min I get the message can't turn on bluetooth. I will report this to HTC (website), plz all of you, do the same, hopefully then can write an update for this!
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[having the same bluetooth problems, comm manager hangs when trying to re-enable bt. find the alarm pretty naff. need to get a proper alarm program, any suggestions?]
G-Alarm is a very nice program. Only downside is, you must buy it.
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It's very nice and worth to buy it imo, it works for me. You can try it out for free and then purchase it if you like it. It's 5 Euro, so it aint that expensive!
steve87 said:
Hope this can help. I got my BT working again
If you have installed TOMTOM it can be the problem. Found this in another forum:
TOMTOM places a new BT dlls under the windows folder that I had to remove:
\Windows\BtSdkCE30.dll
\Windows\BtCoreIf.dll
You can either ename them or remove them and then soft restart your Touch Pro 2/HD2 and everything will go back to normal.
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Those are protected files, how can I delete those!?
XTREEM|RAGE said:
Idd I have the same problems, well that bluetooth 'crashes' and after a few min I get the message can't turn on bluetooth. I will report this to HTC (website), plz all of you, do the same, hopefully then can write an update for this!
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Please could you send me the link to HTC so i can contribute to place the report.
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Please could you send me the link to HTC so i can contribute to place the report.
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http://www.htc.com/uk/CS_Mail.aspx
or
http://www.htc.com/uk/about_htc_bymail.aspx
Hey guys, I upgraded to the Atrix from my Tilt2... I set up the bluetooth with my car (Audi A5) and the calling works fine but the car no loner imports my SIM contacts, recent calls, missed calls, and dialed calls list that my Tilt2 used to send over. Those options on the car are now just blank. Is there anyway to enable this? The bluetooth profile on both phones is just listed as "hands free". Is there any way to fix this or enable other connection profiles to send that data like my last phone did?
Thanks guys
I can pair my Atrix is my BMW 3-series but when it tries to download the phone book the BT connection drops. Sometimes I can start to make a call but it will drop the connection.
I can connect all my BB's and my HTC Inspire 4G just fine.
I think there is something wrong with the BT stack.
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I can pair my Atrix is my BMW 3-series but when it tries to download the phone book the BT connection drops. Sometimes I can start to make a call but it will drop the connection.
I can connect all my BB's and my HTC Inspire 4G just fine.
I think there is something wrong with the BT stack.
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I think you may be right... I did some more online searching after the post and stumbled upon an Audi forum where multiple people have lost the ability on several different car models after moving to a stock android device... however, it appears things fix themselves with CM roms which may have a more sophisticated BT stack. I wonder if it's hopeless about having that capability until 2.3 or the bootloader is cracked?
If I can't get this fixed soon then I will be forced to return this phone.
How can they screw up something so simple??
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Hey guys, I upgraded to the Atrix from my Tilt2... I set up the bluetooth with my car (Audi A5) and the calling works fine but the car no loner imports my SIM contacts, recent calls, missed calls, and dialed calls list that my Tilt2 used to send over. Those options on the car are now just blank. Is there anyway to enable this? The bluetooth profile on both phones is just listed as "hands free". Is there any way to fix this or enable other connection profiles to send that data like my last phone did?
Thanks guys
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I have this same problem in my Chevy Volt. Sometimes the phonebook works (but very slowly) but the call lists never work. Also seems to take a very long time to pair initially.
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A lot of cars can only import the phone book from the SIM card. Not from any other application on the phone.
So if your phone book is in Google Contacts or some other application...you'll need to port it into the SIM card itself for most cars to be able to read it.
Return it. I have new A4 and atrix pairs fine. I actually think its the clearest device I've used in my car yet
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"I have new A4 and atrix pairs fine."
And do you know WHICH phone book your numbers are in, or which phone books the A4 can pair with?
If his BT is connecting, and the phone is working over BT, there's no reason to think the phone is defective. yet.
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I think you may be right... I did some more online searching after the post and stumbled upon an Audi forum where multiple people have lost the ability on several different car models after moving to a stock android device... however, it appears things fix themselves with CM roms which may have a more sophisticated BT stack. I wonder if it's hopeless about having that capability until 2.3 or the bootloader is cracked?
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It's not a BT Stack problem...it's an Audi problem (or BMW, etc...). The manufacturers need to program their devices for Android. The ability to grab contacts and such isn't a standard bluetooth handsfree device option. It has to do something extra. How it *handles* that extra something differs by device...which is why some don't work with Android devices.
On top of that, there's a dialogue when you first pair the device that asks if it should have access to your contacts, call lists, etc...that you have to "Allow" or it won't ever be able to get those lists. It's been the same way on every Android phone I've ever used. If you don't hit Allow within 10 seconds the dialogue will go away and never come back...unless you unpair and re-pair the device. Try doing this and seeing if the dialogue comes up. If it doesn't, it's an issue with the way your Audi/BMW polls for contacts.
BTW works perfectly with my Kenwood receiver.
Ziuck said:
If I can't get this fixed soon then I will be forced to return this phone.
How can they screw up something so simple??
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"They" didn't. Audi/BMW did. They didn't spend enough time programming to figure out that Android handles contacts slightly differently. Put blame where it's due.
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"They" didn't. Audi/BMW did. They didn't spend enough time programming to figure out that Android handles contacts slightly differently. Put blame where it's due.
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I have the 08' audi a4 and my contacts sync just fine, as do the missed calls.
" my contacts sync just fine"
SIM card contacts? Google Contacts? Exactly which or what "contacts" ?
Hi, new user here to searched and figured it'd be better to post in this thread rather than starting a new one.
I'm another Atrix user who is having issues with pairing the Atrix to a bluetooth car kit. I've got the VW Touch Phone Kit (rebadged Bury CC9060) which used to work perfectly with my previous Samsung Omnia as well as my partner's Samsung S8500. The problem I have was that with the 1.57 firmware, I could initially pair the phone and it would sync the phonebook up fine so that I could make or receive any number of calls without a hitch. But the issue was when I switched the ignition off then back on, the Atrix appears to pair correctly, it'll grab the phonebook but cannot make or grab any incoming calls. When dialing from the phonebook, it will initiate the call then drop out while the call still goes through. Incoming calls just aren't picked up at all. If I deleted the pairing and paired the phone up to the car kit again, it'd work until the first ignition off and back on again.
After I updated to the 1.83 firmware, this no longer works for me at all even though it appears to pair correctly and syncs the phonebook as well.
I've looked into upgrading the software on the car kit but I'm already on v0181 which is the latest for the VW branded kit. The Bury CC9060 kit has available a v0235 update but won't load on the VW kit as it does a checksum check. I'm looking at possibly editing the flasher to bypass the checksum check.
Has anyone else used the Atrix with this car kit and experiencing the same issues?
Thanks in advance
fmflex
A quick bump.
I find it hard to believe that I'm the only one using an Atrix with this car kit...
I really wanted to buy a car kit, I was even willing to pay the rather high price. Then i saw tht the Atrix just "snaps it" with those two spring arms.
You know what happens in an accident? The phone will fly out as a missle. Good luck finding it, if you were doing 30 when you got slammed, the phone will still be doing 30 when it launches out of the clips.
If it doesn't hit you, you still won't be able to find it or call 911 on it.
So, nice dock, I'm holding off for something that can be used "in case of accident". For that price, I expect a more robust product, designed to survive. (Note to Moto, calls Mercedes and speak to crash safety team.)
hotleadsingerguy said:
"They" didn't. Audi/BMW did. They didn't spend enough time programming to figure out that Android handles contacts slightly differently. Put blame where it's due.
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I am not sure that the blame can be directed to the car makers not suiting the android configuration.
I had concerns about Androids paring car bluetooth, so when my wife got her Samsung running Froyo before i purchased the Atrix, I tested it on my 2010 A4 and it all worked faultlessly. All phonebook, dialled, missed calls & received calls. All her contacts are stored on the Phone too, not the SIM. It actually worked better with it than my old Nokia's, and my old iPhone 3G. All of which had contacts stored on the phone not the SIM.
Being in my car all day, I had to make sure it the Atrix running Froyo would work too, and that's why I tested it with my wifes phone before buying the Atrix.
I would have to say that the problem does have something to do with how the Atrix handles bluetooth. I have been having all the same issues that other users are having.
To be fair to the Atrix, I had only one problem when I originanlly bought it and that was loading the contacts from the phones storage, all the other options were working and it never displayed the annoying error message and it never dropped the connection either.
This has only started playing up completely since I rooted it and installed HeLauncher with Fancy widgets (maybe it's just a coincidence, but its unlikely i think IMHO).
I have since uninstalled the HeLauncher and Fancy Widgets, and yet the problem is still there, so I have no realistic reason why it isn't working anymore.
Because i work for Audi, I will check at work why this issue might be happening ( just with the Atrix not all the other Android phones) and see if their is anything that can be done to fix the issue.
Hi Staunch
I'd be very interested in what you can find out about this issue. I've basically got nothing out of VW and their official stand is that the atrix isn't compatible.
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Hi Staunch
I'd be very interested in what you can find out about this issue. I've basically got nothing out of VW and their official stand is that the atrix isn't compatible.
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Ok, I have tried connectivity with the current version of MMI and it seems to pair up with NO error messages at all. It would appear at this stage that the new MMI generation have the "issue" fixed. I am still waiting for a reply from Service Technical Support to answer why the issue exists on the older MMI generations. It would appear that Audi in conjection with Apple focused their MMI setup for iOS, not considering Android OS's.
Will keep you updated once I have some more information about previous versions of MMI.
Blame the cars not the phone.
My phone works 100% well and perfect with my Acura.
I've also had fun trying to get my E46 3 Series BMW ULF BT module to talk to the Atrix - has no issues speaking to an older Nokia phone. Anyway after a LOT of experimentation I've finally pinned down the root cause of the problem, text messages (SMS).
I've yet to figure out the specific trigger but it is either the number of messages or something in a specific message it doesn't like. I figured this out because I noticed the envelope icon coming up on the BMW screen for 5-10 seconds before the bluetooth would drop out each time after connecting the pairing. Each connection only lasts 15 seconds at most.
Anyway there were 193 SMS messages in the car memory, maybe the 194th message was upsetting it. I deleted almost all the 1150 SMS messages in my phone and it was only when I got rid of all of them that it connected. I then had to manually clear the SMS messages in the BMW one by one (took a long while).
I then did some testing whereby I sent an SMS or two to my phone. I noted that the Atrix seems to periodly get asked to upload messages to the car. You can delete them in the car but if they are still on the phone, they come back shortly after. They always show as unread on the BMW unless you read them on the car screen. Reading them on the phone has no affect. Maybe the SMS side of BT headset support is borked on the Atrix.
So my conclusion is that while I don't know the detailed trigger specifics, for BMWs at least the Atrix Bluetooth issue comes down to SMS messages. My large contacts directory uploads in its entirety without an issue. The solution for reliable BT connectivity to the Atrix and a BMW seems to be in SMS message management. Get yourself a copy of SMS Backup from the market when you experiment.
Hope this helps others!
Matt
I have a Galaxy S3 I9300 for a couple of weeks now and I love it, other than the fact that I keep having a strange issue with the Bluetooth connection with my carkit. I've been searching forums for similar issues and I found a variety of carkit related problems, but none of the ones I found describe the same problem as what I'm having:
- Initially the Bluetooth connection works fine and I can play music or make a call through the carkit just fine
- When I switch off the car's systems and don't use any apps on the phone in the meanwhile, and then start the car's systems again, it establishes the Bluetooth connection just fine again
- When I switch off the car's systems and I use other apps for a while and then start the car again, it won't work. Bluetooth does appear to connect, but after that it just doesn't play ball. When I try to play a song at this point, the phone shows the song is playing, but neither the phone nor the car audio produces any sound
So anyway, every morning before leaving to work and every evening before going home, I reboot my phone first. Then I step into the car and it establishes the Bluetooth connection just fine. But if I don't reboot the phone first, it just won't work. Now I guess I could setup a tasker profile to automatically reboot the phone, but I'd rather just get the problem fixed.
I run a Galaxy S3 I9300 with stock Android 4.1.1, rooted. I have already tried to run the "Bluetooth Fix Repair" app and afterwards had to pair the phone with the carkit again, but that made no difference.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Some additional info:
This issue has now also happened a few times while driving. While music (through Spotify) was playing over the bluetooth carkit, it would sometimes just stop working when I opened a different app (like for example opening an SMS). Spotify was still running (and the song was still ongoing) and also the bluetooth connection still showed as being connected, but it just wouldn't produce any sound anymore.
Anyway, it seems clear to me that this is a bluetooth issue, but I have no idea how I can troubleshoot this beyond what I've already done.
I would be happy to pay whoever can fix this problem..
With an issue like you are describing it may be helpful to list the headunit model too. I do not own an S3 but I have a multimedia headunit (Pioneer AVH P4400BH) and have found that toggling my Bluetooth on and off will help the headunit to see the Bluetooth on my Android device. This may not resolve your issue though.
Another thing to consider, your headunit may have an update-able firmware. That said if your headunit does have an update-able firmware I would check out the procedure, ensure there is a way to roll back to your current firmware and try that. If your headunit was purchased at an electronics or and audio retailer you may wish to speak with them. Your issue may not be with your phone but with your headunit, but this should help as far as troubleshooting since your issue involves multiple devices.
ItzCrooK2UxD said:
With an issue like you are describing it may be helpful to list the headunit model too.
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My car is a Renault Megane RS, the carkit was built in. I believe it's called Renault Carminat TomTom.
ItzCrooK2UxD said:
I do not own an S3 but I have a multimedia headunit (Pioneer AVH P4400BH) and have found that toggling my Bluetooth on and off will help the headunit to see the Bluetooth on my Android device. This may not resolve your issue though.
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I've covered everything like that in about 100 different ways, none of which made any difference.
ItzCrooK2UxD said:
Another thing to consider, your headunit may have an update-able firmware. That said if your headunit does have an update-able firmware I would check out the procedure, ensure there is a way to roll back to your current firmware and try that. If your headunit was purchased at an electronics or and audio retailer you may wish to speak with them. Your issue may not be with your phone but with your headunit, but this should help as far as troubleshooting since your issue involves multiple devices.
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Good point. It does have an SD card slot, but as far as I know that's only to update the maps of the navigation system. I'll see if I can figure that out.
Thanks for the tips!
By the way - I do think that it's unlikely that the carkit itself is the troublemaker. Especially because opening an SMS on my phone can trigger the whole thing to stop working (it doesn't happen every time, but it did happen several times). Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Apoc_ said:
By the way - I do think that it's unlikely that the carkit itself is the troublemaker. Especially because opening an SMS on my phone can trigger the whole thing to stop working (it doesn't happen every time, but it did happen several times). Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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It is in fact very possible that it is your phone, but wanted to throw it out there that bluetooth headunits can be troublesome on their own. Now I am not familiar with your headunit, but does it save bluetooth IDs? Like on my headunit and many other aftermarket headunits, it will save 3 bluetooth devices. If it does, have you tried clearing other devices and moving your S3 to the top? Odd as it sounds this has made a difference for me. Also do you have other bluetooth devices in the car, such as the 3GS you mentioned?
Also a logcat of this happening would be beneficial. If you do not know how to pull a logcat there is an app on the market called catlog or alogcat. Both are free and are invaluable in troubleshooting a ROM issue. In short it tells a developer what is going on as far as events being triggered or failures within the ROM.
ItzCrooK2UxD said:
Now I am not familiar with your headunit, but does it save bluetooth IDs? Like on my headunit and many other aftermarket headunits, it will save 3 bluetooth devices. If it does, have you tried clearing other devices and moving your S3 to the top? Odd as it sounds this has made a difference for me.
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Yeah I had read that too in some other thread (I went through just about every bluetooth related thread I could find, before I posted this topic). Mine saves up to 5. It didn't have anything in there except for my previous phone, which I had cleared. I also tried re-pairing the S3 several times, that didn't make any difference either.
Now, I just read somewhere that some people are having disconnection issues on the same carkit. In their case, in the end the problem turned out to be that their carkit will import all of their contacts from their phone (so you can call people even while your phone is in your pocket), and this would cause trouble when there are contacts without a phone number associated with it (just like my thousands of Exchange contacts). The people in question are talking about random disconnects though, whereas in my case it happens after doing some stuff on my phone. So it's probably unrelated, but I'll give that a try anyway just to rule it out. I just need to figure out a way to stop the carkit from importing contacts, because removing thousands of email contacts is obviously not an option.
I'll keep this topic updated with any progress. If anyone has any other ideas, please keep em coming. Thanks for the help so far!
ItzCrooK2UxD said:
Also a logcat of this happening would be beneficial. If you do not know how to pull a logcat there is an app on the market called catlog or alogcat. Both are free and are invaluable in troubleshooting a ROM issue. In short it tells a developer what is going on as far as events being triggered or failures within the ROM.
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Didn't think of that, great tip, thank you! I do run the stock ROM by the way.
I've installed alogcat just now. Does it just keep running automatically in the background?
Apoc_ said:
Didn't think of that, great tip, thank you! I do run the stock ROM by the way.
I've installed alogcat just now. Does it just keep running automatically in the background?
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It reads a file that is being constantly updated (which happens to be the logcat file). Typically I will clear it right before doing what it took to cause the failure, like in your case in your car with the bluetooth on.
I've got Audi with BT and S3 with custom rom and I've got similar problems with BT. It connects automatically but if I switch off BT in phone and switch it on again - it doesn't connect any more. I had this since I bought a phone and it was on all ROMs I used.
YoghurtPL said:
I've got Audi with BT and S3 with custom rom and I've got similar problems with BT. It connects automatically but if I switch off BT in phone and switch it on again - it doesn't connect any more. I had this since I bought a phone and it was on all ROMs I used.
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Yep - I have that too. The weird thing is that in that situation the phone does seem to think it is connected, while it really isn't. Just to be clear: this is not the only way to cause this issue (because it also happens when trying to reconnect the Bluetooth while on the phone it hasn't been disabled in the meanwhile).
So far I haven't been able to pull anything related from the logcat.
Also, while reading up on common bluetooth issues, I came across some posts of people who were saying that some phone/carkit combinations are having trouble with 2-way communication (because I can stream music from the phone to the carkit, but I can also change a song using the carkit or initiate a phonecall from the carkit). I'm going to try to only use communication initiated from the phone, and see whether that makes any difference. In the meanwhile: does anyone happen to know anything about 2-way communication issues with bluetooth, and how to overcome such issues?
Update:
- Updated carkit to latest firmware. No change, still same problem
- Have not been able to capture anything unusual in the logs
- I have a Bose Soundlink now, which is a wireless speaker. Whenever my S3 is connected to the Soundlink (with bluetooth), wifi doesn't work. Upon turning off bluetooth, wifi instantly works fine again. So this definitely confirms this is a problem with bluetooth on the phone, not on the carkit.
- Wanted to upgrade to Android 4.1.2 but Samsung won't let me, as it says the device is modified (rooted). Triangle away isn't helping. Damn you, Samsung. This is *the* reason I moved away from Apple, as I don't like companies who don't let you use your stuff any way you like. And now Samsung is moving down the same route. Idiots. Anyway, I guess the only option left, is to start using a custom ROM.
Does anyone happen to have experience in terms of solving bluetooth problems by using a custom ROM? I'm thinking of using Cyanogenmod 10.1
In the meanwhile I have upgraded to Android 4.1.2: still the same problem.
I have also discussed this matter with quite a few other Samsung smartphone owners, and all of them appear to be having the same issue. Most of them just don't seem to be bothered to spend time on looking for a fix.
Also, I have figured out that this problem is specific to media streaming. I'm able to use my phone on the carkit for calls at any time, without having to reboot first. Only when I try to listen to music, the problem occurs.
Anyway, I have ruled out that this problem is specific to me or my devices - this appears to be a global issue. So I'm completely puzzled as to why there's not a lot more fuss going on about this.
If anyone has any more suggestions for a resolution of this problem, please share.
S3 bluetooth connection problem
Had the same problem with my S3 and renault megane III handsfree bluetooth system.(Arkamsys software version 2.2.0.19 auditorium)
I downgraded to 4.0.4 baseband I9300CELH1 (stock) and problem seems fixed
hope this helps.
Hi Bennes,
Thank you for your response.
I'm still dealing with this problem myself. All upgrades so far haven't made a difference. So far, I've been able to figure out that if I first initiate a phonecall, after hanging up, the audio streaming works (while before the phonecall it usually wouldn't). This works about 8 out of 10 times (the other 2 times it doesn't make a bluetooth connection at all). So what I've done, is to use Tasker and to automatically make it call my own phone number whenever bluetooth gets connected to the carkit, and hanging up after 3 seconds. But this is obviously far from ideal.
Do you know whether it is possible to change the baseband version without changing the firmware version? I wouldn't like to downgrade to an older firmware version, as I like the new features in the newer versions. I do also prefer to stick with the stock firmware, but that's not a requirement.
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Apoc_ said:
Hi Bennes,
Thank you for your response.
I'm still dealing with this problem myself. All upgrades so far haven't made a difference. So far, I've been able to figure out that if I first initiate a phonecall, after hanging up, the audio streaming works (while before the phonecall it usually wouldn't). This works about 8 out of 10 times (the other 2 times it doesn't make a bluetooth connection at all). So what I've done, is to use Tasker and to automatically make it call my own phone number whenever bluetooth gets connected to the carkit, and hanging up after 3 seconds. But this is obviously far from ideal.
Do you know whether it is possible to change the baseband version without changing the firmware version? I wouldn't like to downgrade to an older firmware version, as I like the new features in the newer versions. I do also prefer to stick with the stock firmware, but that's not a requirement.
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mmm, don`t know about baseband only. Try google.
I have read that after downgrade to 4.0.4 and then upgrade again to latest stock version, bluetooth connection keeps working.
I cannot confirm this as i am still on 4.0.4, but will get an update of the arkamsys radio to the latest renault firmware version next week and then start experimenting again. i will report back once i have new results
Bennes18 said:
mmm, don`t know about baseband only. Try google.
I have read that after downgrade to 4.0.4 and then upgrade again to latest stock version, bluetooth connection keeps working.
I cannot confirm this as i am still on 4.0.4, but will get an update of the arkamsys radio to the latest renault firmware version next week and then start experimenting again. i will report back once i have new results
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BB only, try this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2106424
Confirmed the update thing, i have updated the S3 to version 4.1.2 BB I9300CEELL1 and have no bluetooth issue whatsoever, car audio still on 2.2.0.19 byt the way
Pretty strange ... , but glad its working !
I have the same issue with a Ford Focus =/
also, while using CM or Omega, the music title never changes.