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Update on AT&T Tilt2 Charger and Spare Battery, 1750mAh.
This is what I have. Bought the Seidio 1750mAh battery and the spare battery charger from Naked Cell Phone. Bought both a couple of weeks ago and no problems to this date. I would make sure the battery charger you get has the 4 prong connection, NOT the 2 prong. Not sure what real difference it makes just more precautionary.
I have heard good results with BoxWave too. I got this same model charger at Naked Cell Phone Store on eBay for $32, for some reason they are out of stock right now.
http://www.boxwave.com/products/desktopcradle/htc-tilt-2-desktop-cradle_3729.htm
http://stores.ebay.com/nakedcellpho...18QQ_sidZ395054398QQ_trksidZp4634Q2ec0Q2em322
This is the battery I have. Bought it from WMExperts Store, again no issues or problems. Even though did not pay for any special shipping I got this stuff and some car adapters in about 3 days. I did pay $50 for the 1750mAh battery.
http://www.wmexperts.com/
http://www.seidioonline.com/category-s/3770.htm
I'm interested to see how this battery holds up.
What do you mean when you say "4 prong connection" when you mentioned the charger? All the chargers I've seen only have 2 prongs and US outlets only have 3 prongs.
On the battery end...
He is talking about a charger to use with batteries NOT in the phone. I.E. swap out batteries kind of thing.
The 4-connection vs 2-connection is quite simple. The 4-connection can balance the cells in the battery. The 2-connection just dumps a charge in. 4-connection is better, assuming the charger actually bothers to balance the cells.
If you don't mind I'd like to plug my third party battery investigation thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=590815
On a mission to aggregate feedback on third party batteries from threads like this and to test the batteries myself so we all can have a more reliable source of information on the veracity of mAh claims of these mysterious batteries. Could use your participation.
Doug
Any third party extended battery options for the S7? I prefer the slim version if possible.
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I rigged up a battery pack using 4 rechargeable Energizer AAA's and just plug it into the DC power socket and double-sided taped it to the back of the unit
I imagine I could use some left over spare Li-Ion batteries from other phones though.
UPDATE: someone asked how
STEP 1: Buy something similar to this http://www.littlebirdelectronics.com/products/4%2dAAA-Battery-Holder.html
STEP 2: Buy a male plug that fits the female power socket on the S7 Like this but the correct size http://www.littlebirdelectronics.com/products/1.3MM-PLUG%2d2.5MM-SOCKET-DC-ADAPTOR.html
STEP 3: Solder them together so that the + and - charge come out of the same wires as the wall-charger
STEP 4: Plug in batteries
If this looks/sounds difficult, don't even attempt it, you WILL break your tablet.
Since the original battery do last too long, i found this 2 option that i think that work with S7:
Good price and free shipping
lol i cant post links yet, sorry guys...
here goes the links for the battery extender....
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4284~r.14121877
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.48449~r.14121877
Nice guys! I was searching for an internal battery solution.
These battery packs look nice but be carefull, the output is only 500 mA. The S7 charger is a 2amp output charger. I'm not sure how well it will run on a lower input.
Ives
mowermech said:
These battery packs look nice but be carefull, the output is only 500 mA. The S7 charger is a 2amp output charger. I'm not sure how well it will run on a lower input.
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The DC pack will only feed what the unit draws, and I doubt very much that it draws the entire 2000mA.
I have rigged up a USB charging cable for myself, USB pumps out 5v at 500mA max per port (I'm only using 1) and it charges a little slower than from the wall, depending on which computer I'm charging from, but apart from that it works great still and I can use the same cable to charge from other USB-charging devices like the one I have in my car.
The 500mA output will just mean it charges slower, and seeing how it's only a battery extender (IE, the oem battery is still required) and not a charging solution (the S7 can run without the battery off only the charge from the wall), the charge provided will be fine for extending the battery life.
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The DC pack will only feed what the unit draws, and I doubt very much that it draws the entire 2000mA.
I have rigged up a USB charging cable for myself, USB pumps out 5v at 500mA max per port (I'm only using 1) and it charges a little slower than from the wall, depending on which computer I'm charging from, but apart from that it works great still and I can use the same cable to charge from other USB-charging devices like the one I have in my car.
The 500mA output will just mean it charges slower, and seeing how it's only a battery extender (IE, the oem battery is still required) and not a charging solution (the S7 can run without the battery off only the charge from the wall), the charge provided will be fine for extending the battery life.
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500mAh as supplied by standard USB will charge but as you say only slowly.
It will not start a charge if the battery has been allowed to drop too low. That's common with all Lion batteries and is why you get a high current wall charger to do the job.
If you are using the device at the same time (and depending on the functions in use and the state of charge of the battery) you will definately struggle with any positive charge and will experience heat build up in the USB port, cable and device so be carefull!
If you are also using the device as a phone and get a call there will be an extra high peak current draw that has to be contended with and that complicates things further.
With all the tests that I have done allong these lines 1000mAh is a bare minimum to cope with eventualities and even then it's borderline.
I have blown car adapter fuses and had low current phone chargers get really hot.
I now only use 2000mAH rated chargers.
Are there any? I would really want to have a battery that could last at least 6 hrs... Any suggestions?
Stjom said:
Are there any? I would really want to have a battery that could last at least 6 hrs... Any suggestions?
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Energizer XPAL XP18000
That will give you about an extra 12-18 hours,
But no internal battery larger than standard. Why would you want one when the external packs are usable with any device and don't become redundant when you upgrade to a different model?
I made such a battery of two packages of Chinese Tablet battery voltage of 7.4V LiJon / 1500mAh connected in series and used a converter on the circuit LM2576 (with car charger navigation) [//chomikuj.pl/wibi) -> Huawei Ideos S7/Dodatkowa bateria]. This additional charger to recharge your battery voltage 8.4V. Pictures and diagrams from the following link will explain everything.
Just posted this on another forum. Just bought one and used coupon code THANKYOU for 10% off.
http://www.store.motorola.com/Batte...olor_map,price,size_name&searchRank=salesrank
Went on ebay and got 3 batteries and a wall charger for 12 bucks. Had the same for my Epic, they are from Hong Kong, and last about half as long as stock but for money spent, well worth it IMO.
Normally i stick to seidio for aftermarket batteries, but that offer is too good to ignore! thanks for the tip!
They take about 2 weeks to get to you, ground mail from China but used them for a year on my Epic. Great little backups, keep one in the car, one in the office, whereever.
I am still not sure which battery will fit the Photon. Let us know how it works out.
This one claims to be for the Photon and only the Photon, it only recently came out so it should work. It is not one of those that advertises for Atrix/Droid X2/Photon, which as we know the Photon does not share a battery with.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-3X-1500...119425?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item45fc81f7c1
Thanks for that ebay link! Wow 3 batteries and the external charger! I just purchased these and it is worth the gamble for $13. I think it will be okay. Worst case scenerio I also get the Seidio battery and I have this purchase to charge my OEM battery in the external charger
They have them for like every phone, usually 2 not 3, but the 3 is nice insurance for a DOA. Never heard bad about them other then they last about half as long as OEM.
What about those 1950 mAh batteries? Will they fit? They scare me because it does not say mB855 anywhere.
Just to confirm the 3 for 13 ebay batteries do fit and work in the Photon. Can't speak of life yet, i expect about half of stock prob a bit more but well worth it.
I posted this over in android forums but forgot to post it here as well.
I ordered this 3x 1500mAh battery + charger over in ebay.
The package does indeed come from China. The package has the 3 included batteries and the charger box.
Next we have images of the battery in its protective pouch and the battery charger.
Each battery is a 3.7VDC 1500mAh Rechargable Lithium-ion type of battery.
It states as a replacement for the BF5X/MB520/MB525 battery. But I can rest assure that it does fit the Photon.
The charger has retractable prongs to connect to the wall and it also has a usb port which I guess is to connect another device to charge from (like the Photon connected via a usb cable.) There is a nicely soft glow light that is colored red (more like magenta) when the battery needs charging and turns a nice color green when the battery is fully charged. Supposedly the charger box indicates that the charging stops once the battery is full to prevent overcharging, but I have no way of knowing that without a battery tester of some sort.
Here is the view of the light with a pic without flash on.
As I was testing this product, the supplied batteries get charged in about an hour each. Originally, I just inserted one of the batteries into the photon to see if it fit and worked and yes it does fit and charge the phone. But it quickly died since I didn't have it fully charged. Well after a few hours of charging all three batteries, I inserted one of them into the photon and see how long they last.
as for the USB port on the charger, well it does not provide any juice to the Photon via a usb cable. At first I thought it was my cable (previous HTC EVO cable) so I switched it to the official one from Motorola and nothing, zip nada.
At this point, I thought either I had a charging device that had a defective usb port or the port doesn't work at all. So I decided to do one last final test and plug in my Kensington Pocket Battery for Smartphones device (which I highly recommend by the way) into the usb port of the charger and tada, we have power. It charges the Kensington battery pack. But not the Photon via the usb.
Now going back to the battery in the photon, while not as long lasting as the official Motorola HF5X 3.8v 1650mAh battery, it does keep the Photon working long enough for me and until I am able to reach a charging port on long travels outside. And with 3 of them, I really do not have to worry. (So long as they all are charged fully). lol
Overall for the price, $12.90 I really can't complain. True the USB charge port only works for my Kensington but it does charge the 3 supplied batteries as well as the official Motorola one. Small, compact and good for travel.
oh and this image shows the pouch and where it came from as well as the model number of the batteries. As one can see it states it is a replacement for the BF5X Moto battery.
and finally here is another ebayer with a higher rated battery.
TS
We (Sprint) have OEM batteries available as well. They are currently not in any store, but we can direct ship them. They come with 1 OEM battery and the external charger for $49.99
http://shop2.sprint.com/NASApp/onlinestore/en/Action/OSBrowseAccessoriesDetail?categoryRefName=Chargers+%26+Batteries&PHONE_ID=MOTOMB855&selectedAccessoryID=BSM5687&topPageNumber=0&subPageNumber=0 Granted a bit more expensive, but they are still in production and once again, OEM.
notoriouspyro said:
We (Sprint) have OEM batteries available as well. They are currently not in any store, but we can direct ship them. They come with 1 OEM battery and the external charger for $49.99
http://shop2.sprint.com/NASApp/onli...oryID=BSM5687&topPageNumber=0&subPageNumber=0 Granted a bit more expensive, but they are still in production and once again, OEM.
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How come it says 1700mah I thought ours was 1650
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here's a link for the current sale of the 1800mah one. I just bought one. Will update once I get it..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-BF5X-180...ccessories&hash=item4aae919049#ht_3638wt_1396
twospirits said:
I posted this over in android forums but forgot to post it here as well.
I ordered this 3x 1500mAh battery + charger over in ebay.
The package does indeed come from China. The package has the 3 included batteries and the charger box.
Next we have images of the battery in its protective pouch and the battery charger.
Each battery is a 3.7VDC 1500mAh Rechargable Lithium-ion type of battery.
It states as a replacement for the BF5X/MB520/MB525 battery. But I can rest assure that it does fit the Photon.
The charger has retractable prongs to connect to the wall and it also has a usb port which I guess is to connect another device to charge from (like the Photon connected via a usb cable.) There is a nicely soft glow light that is colored red (more like magenta) when the battery needs charging and turns a nice color green when the battery is fully charged. Supposedly the charger box indicates that the charging stops once the battery is full to prevent overcharging, but I have no way of knowing that without a battery tester of some sort.
Here is the view of the light with a pic without flash on.
As I was testing this product, the supplied batteries get charged in about an hour each. Originally, I just inserted one of the batteries into the photon to see if it fit and worked and yes it does fit and charge the phone. But it quickly died since I didn't have it fully charged. Well after a few hours of charging all three batteries, I inserted one of them into the photon and see how long they last.
as for the USB port on the charger, well it does not provide any juice to the Photon via a usb cable. At first I thought it was my cable (previous HTC EVO cable) so I switched it to the official one from Motorola and nothing, zip nada.
At this point, I thought either I had a charging device that had a defective usb port or the port doesn't work at all. So I decided to do one last final test and plug in my Kensington Pocket Battery for Smartphones device (which I highly recommend by the way) into the usb port of the charger and tada, we have power. It charges the Kensington battery pack. But not the Photon via the usb.
Now going back to the battery in the photon, while not as long lasting as the official Motorola HF5X 3.8v 1650mAh battery, it does keep the Photon working long enough for me and until I am able to reach a charging port on long travels outside. And with 3 of them, I really do not have to worry. (So long as they all are charged fully). lol
Overall for the price, $12.90 I really can't complain. True the USB charge port only works for my Kensington but it does charge the 3 supplied batteries as well as the official Motorola one. Small, compact and good for travel.
oh and this image shows the pouch and where it came from as well as the model number of the batteries. As one can see it states it is a replacement for the BF5X Moto battery.
and finally here is another ebayer with a higher rated battery.
TS
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Very sweet
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so glad I purchased this. Just got mine and its awesome for 13
mobilebuddha said:
here's a link for the current sale of the 1800mah one. I just bought one. Will update once I get it..
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-BF5X-180...ccessories&hash=item4aae919049#ht_3638wt_1396
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I am very interested to know if this works out since the offer seems to be for another phone.
Thanks.
I noticed there's a US seller with a 1950mAh package... any thoughts on this one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3x-1950mAh-BF6X-Battery-Charger-Motorola-Photon-4G-/160653180016?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2567acfc70
stormygal said:
I noticed there's a US seller with a 1950mAh package... any thoughts on this one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3x-1950mAh-BF6X-Battery-Charger-Motorola-Photon-4G-/160653180016?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2567acfc70
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DO NOT BUY THIS! I did and they are steamy Chinese turds. One hour battery life and the charger does not work. I bought Chinese batteries for my EVO that were very adequate. These suck.
Sidewinder7 said:
This one claims to be for the Photon and only the Photon, it only recently came out so it should work. It is not one of those that advertises for Atrix/Droid X2/Photon, which as we know the Photon does not share a battery with.
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Thanks for the heads up, big fan of back ups
they're only $12 now re listed
Alot has been said about the quality of various batteries that we are all looking at for our devices...however very little about the different chargers that are out there.
I thought my charger that I bought was defective cause I let it charge overnight and it wasn't fully charged. That is not the case.
The Charger that the Note comes with charges at 1A. Most of these external battery only chargers charge at 350mA.
Take a look at this calculator:
http://www.csgnetwork.com/batterychgcalc.html
Using the link to the calculator above, you should expect a 2600mAh battery to fully charge using one of these cheap chargers in about 9 HOURS!! The charger that the note comes with should expect about 3.4 hours. That's a huge difference in charge time!!
So be sure to take a look at the output of these chargers before you get too excited and purchase one. If it takes you 24 hours to charge a battery, what good is it to you?
Thanks for the battery reference URL.
This is basically another scenario of 'you get what you pay for..'
It seems to often apply to batteries and chargers.
Whereas for like cases, you have a better chance of actually saving money and getting quality at the same time.
CradleRob said:
Alot has been said about the quality of various batteries that we are all looking at for our devices...however very little about the different chargers that are out there.
I thought my charger that I bought was defective cause I let it charge overnight and it wasn't fully charged. That is not the case.
The Charger that the Note comes with charges at 1A. Most of these external battery only chargers charge at 350mA.
Take a look at this calculator:
http://www.csgnetwork.com/batterychgcalc.html
Using the link to the calculator above, you should expect a 2600mAh battery to fully charge using one of these cheap chargers in about 9 HOURS!! The charger that the note comes with should expect about 3.4 hours. That's a huge difference in charge time!!
So be sure to take a look at the output of these chargers before you get too excited and purchase one. If it takes you 24 hours to charge a battery, what good is it to you?
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So I guess for battery longevity, you should use a 500 mA charger (the typical USB output). That way it doesn't charge it too quick (and overheat the battery).
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So I guess for battery longevity, you should use a 500 mA charger (the typical USB output). That way it doesn't charge it too quick (and overheat the battery).
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No, actually. Lithium ion batteries, unlike nickle-cadium batteries actually perform and last better with short, fast charges. Android's battery stats are helped by a few full cycles, but it is not better for the battery to full cycle or slow charge.
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Thank you for this information, very helpful as I have other phone chargers. Is there a way(Windows based utility) to tell how many mah a USB port is outputting while charging?
lmike6453 said:
Thank you for this information, very helpful as I have other phone chargers. Is there a way(Windows based utility) to tell how many mah a USB port is outputting while charging?
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A multimeter
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lmike6453 said:
Thank you for this information, very helpful as I have other phone chargers. Is there a way(Windows based utility) to tell how many mah a USB port is outputting while charging?
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*I am not an electrical expert, I just play one on TV.*
There are standards for USB outs. Just Google the standard. That said, there is USB1, USB2, and now USB3. Check your motherboard to see which one you have. There is also a newish thing on motherboards that will do a rapid charge by changing a setting on the BIOS. That's what i got off the top of my head. Do a little research.
As was pointed out on another thread, the Note looks for a low resistance/short between pins 2 and 3 of the USB cable. If it sees the low resistance, it enables a high current charge; otherwise, it sticks with USB standard charge of less than 500 ma. The 2/3 pin setup is not true of USB connections to a computer. The Note power adapter is set up this way to do a fast charge. Most chargers and portable battery chargers leave pins 2 and 3 unconnected, so they will not fast charge a Note even if they can supply 1A.
I purchased a Scosche 5000 mah battery with USB ports for charging Ipads, Iphones, and other devices. It also charges a Galaxy Tab with a special USB adapter plug. I tried the Tab adapter with my new Note and it was charging at 5 percent charged every ten minutes or so. Without the USB adapter, the Note charged at 2 percent every ten minutes or so. Without the adapter, the Note displays an MTP initialization notification. With the adapter, there is no MTP notification.
The Scosche battery is a big improvement over older Trent 5000 mah batteries. There is a push button to turn the Scosche battery on. The battery will turn off if no device is attached or it the device is fully charged. One of the ports can output 2.1A for an Ipad. The Trent battery would run down if it was left on.
Staples carries the Scosche battery for $80. I used a $29 online coupon from Staples that expires 3/5/2012.
I did not see anywhere on the Scosche website where they sell the Tab adapter by itself.
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As was pointed out on another thread, the Note looks for a low resistance/short between pins 2 and 3 of the USB cable. If it sees the low resistance, it enables a high current charge; otherwise, it sticks with USB standard charge of less than 500 ma. The 2/3 pin setup is not true of USB connections to a computer. The Note power adapter is set up this way to do a fast charge. Most chargers and portable battery chargers leave pins 2 and 3 unconnected, so they will not fast charge a Note even if they can supply 1A.
I purchased a Scosche 5000 mah battery with USB ports for charging Ipads, Iphones, and other devices. It also charges a Galaxy Tab with a special USB adapter plug. I tried the Tab adapter with my new Note and it was charging at 5 percent charged every ten minutes or so. Without the USB adapter, the Note charged at 2 percent every ten minutes or so. Without the adapter, the Note displays an MTP initialization notification. With the adapter, there is no MTP notification.
The Scosche battery is a big improvement over older Trent 5000 mah batteries. There is a push button to turn the Scosche battery on. The battery will turn off if no device is attached or it the device is fully charged. One of the ports can output 2.1A for an Ipad. The Trent battery would run down if it was left on.
Staples carries the Scosche battery for $80. I used a $29 online coupon from Staples that expires 3/5/2012.
I did not see anywhere on the Scosche website where they sell the Tab adapter by itself.
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Do you have a model number on that USB adapter? Maybe in the instructions?
There is only the name Scosche on the adapter. The guide only calls it the Galaxy Tab adapter.
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Ipaqman01 said:
As was pointed out on another thread, the Note looks for a low resistance/short between pins 2 and 3 of the USB cable. If it sees the low resistance, it enables a high current charge; otherwise, it sticks with USB standard charge of less than 500 ma. The 2/3 pin setup is not true of USB connections to a computer. The Note power adapter is set up this way to do a fast charge. Most chargers and portable battery chargers leave pins 2 and 3 unconnected, so they will not fast charge a Note even if they can supply 1A.
I purchased a Scosche 5000 mah battery with USB ports for charging Ipads, Iphones, and other devices. It also charges a Galaxy Tab with a special USB adapter plug. I tried the Tab adapter with my new Note and it was charging at 5 percent charged every ten minutes or so. Without the USB adapter, the Note charged at 2 percent every ten minutes or so. Without the adapter, the Note displays an MTP initialization notification. With the adapter, there is no MTP notification.
The Scosche battery is a big improvement over older Trent 5000 mah batteries. There is a push button to turn the Scosche battery on. The battery will turn off if no device is attached or it the device is fully charged. One of the ports can output 2.1A for an Ipad. The Trent battery would run down if it was left on.
Staples carries the Scosche battery for $80. I used a $29 online coupon from Staples that expires 3/5/2012.
I did not see anywhere on the Scosche website where they sell the Tab adapter by itself.
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What does an "MTP initialization notification" look like on the Note? How do I identify it?
If I don't see it when charging, does that mean it's getting a fast charge for sure, or just that it might be?
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A multimeter
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How exactly would you use a multimeter to do this? From what I've seen, they have two contacts -- where would you stick those? Or is there some kind of micro USB conversion thingy to use with a multimeter?
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How exactly would you use a multimeter to do this? From what I've seen, they have two contacts -- where would you stick those? Or is there some kind of micro USB conversion thingy to use with a multimeter?
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Cut a USB cable, and strip a portion of the power wires. Set the multimeter to a 10A DC current scale (assuming it supports 10A, but most craftsman and up do, with common and a 10A lead), disconnect the plug, attach common to negative wire and positive to positive wire, gator clips or something, then plug it in and read it. The current support and time it can be on depends on the multimeter. Mine does up to 10A for Max 30 sec.
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Besides the oem charger, which is the best quality spare battery charger? My anker charger broke after a few months of use, and from what I see Zero Lemon seems to sell the exact same charger only its rebranded. Are there any better options?
Were you using Anker batteries? Did you get them through Amazon or elsewhere? How did/do they compare to the standard battery in your opinion?