Hey all,
I need some help getting my Eris on the PagePlus network.
http://www.pagepluscellular.com/
I bought my Eris used and with no contract. Clean ESN as well.
I called my local PagePlus office, but they won't have anyone that can program the Eris for another month or so. I can't wait that long.
Does anyone here know what I need to do to get it setup correctly?
The rep mentioned it has something to do with "opera mini" and not actually flashing the phone. Just setting up the info.
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!
Even if I have to go through a different office. I just need this setup ASAP!
Also... I am going for the 1,200 Minutes / 1,200 SMS/MMS / 50 MB Data = $29.95 plan. This seems to be their best data plan. Anyone using this service able to use it with the Eris well? I will ONLY download apps and big stuff on my wifi network. I am not a data hog and would only check emails while away from wifi.
Thnx in advance!
~Syn
synaptyc said:
Hey all,
I need some help getting my Eris on the PagePlus network.
http://www.pagepluscellular.com/
I bought my Eris used and with no contract. Clean ESN as well.
I called my local PagePlus office, but they won't have anyone that can program the Eris for another month or so. I can't wait that long.
Does anyone here know what I need to do to get it setup correctly?
The rep mentioned it has something to do with "opera mini" and not actually flashing the phone. Just setting up the info.
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!
Even if I have to go through a different office. I just need this setup ASAP!
Also... I am going for the 1,200 Minutes / 1,200 SMS/MMS / 50 MB Data = $29.95 plan. This seems to be their best data plan. Anyone using this service able to use it with the Eris well? I will ONLY download apps and big stuff on my wifi network. I am not a data hog and would only check emails while away from wifi.
Thnx in advance!
~Syn
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Just go on ebay and look for "page plus activation" pay the 1.00 and give the ESN. I have the eris on pp but i cant get mms to work (most likely its me... )
Thnx Joey =) Doing this now =)
WOW! This couldn't have been easier!
I bought an eBay auction for $1.99 because the $1.00 auctions were for new activation with a new number. I ported my number over from Sprint. The auction led me to: www.KittyWireless.com
INCREDIBLE SERVICE!!! She is a one person operation. I know this because she has a LIVE chat thing on her site for answering questions. She handled all the calls and setup between Sprint & PagePlus. All I had to do was supply basic info. Uber easy.
On top of that, she offers a little discount on the normal monthly service! Normal price for the "Talk N Text 1200" is $29.95. My cost was $26.00 ... awesome.
That auction was the BEST $1.99 I ever spent =)
As for the setup of my Eris in the PagePlus network? Simple. From the time I bought the eBay auction and filled out my info on Kitty's website... I was making calls in under 2 hours. All I had to do was wait for her email, put the battery back in the Eris, and dial *22890. Everything works perfectly. Voice, Data, SMS, MMS. No problems at all.
Because of only getting 50MB with the plan, I will use it sparingly. I have access to WiFi 95% of my day. No biggie.
I am really liking this service so far and I HIGHLY recommend www.KittyWireless.com to ANYONE who doesn't want a contract. but DOES want excellent service!!!
(i know... i sound like a commercial... but she is THAT good)
~Syn
synaptyc said:
WOW! This couldn't have been easier!
I bought an eBay auction for $1.99 because the $1.00 auctions were for new activation with a new number. I ported my number over from Sprint. The auction led me to: www.KittyWireless.com
INCREDIBLE SERVICE!!! She is a one person operation. I know this because she has a LIVE chat thing on her site for answering questions. She handled all the calls and setup between Sprint & PagePlus. All I had to do was supply basic info. Uber easy.
On top of that, she offers a little discount on the normal monthly service! Normal price for the "Talk N Text 1200" is $29.95. My cost was $26.00 ... awesome.
That auction was the BEST $1.99 I ever spent =)
As for the setup of my Eris in the PagePlus network? Simple. From the time I bought the eBay auction and filled out my info on Kitty's website... I was making calls in under 2 hours. All I had to do was wait for her email, put the battery back in the Eris, and dial *22890. Everything works perfectly. Voice, Data, SMS, MMS. No problems at all.
Because of only getting 50MB with the plan, I will use it sparingly. I have access to WiFi 95% of my day. No biggie.
I am really liking this service so far and I HIGHLY recommend www.KittyWireless.com to ANYONE who doesn't want a contract. but DOES want excellent service!!!
(i know... i sound like a commercial... but she is THAT good)
~Syn
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So you got mms without doing anything other than activating? I have been unable to get mms working at all... I really think I need my account reset with page plus then.
Just call Page Plus and tell them to activate data / mms on your phone. Usually it's not automatically activated unless you call in and tell them. Likely they will tell you that it is active, or it can't be activated on your phone, just politely insist that they activate it. The CSR's aren't too bright.
I went to kitty and did an ESN reset. That fixed my mms issue.
Just trying to help next time
just pm and ill activate at no charge
I was wondering i have 2 droid eris phones and im going to be leaving verizon but i know they wont clear my esn, since i will be putting my verizon bill in my bankruptcy will i be able to go to Pages plus and use their service, also ive seen companies that UNLOCK your phone will i be able to do that with my eris droids. Im new to all this stuff and trying to figure it out.
tnat1 said:
I was wondering i have 2 droid eris phones and im going to be leaving verizon but i know they wont clear my esn, since i will be putting my verizon bill in my bankruptcy will i be able to go to Pages plus and use their service
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If your phones don't have a clean ESN with Verizon, then they won't have a clean ESN with PagePlus. PagePlus is a Verizon MVNO. You would have to flash your devices to another carrier such as Cricket.
I transferred over my 2 droids to Pages plus from verizon, i took 2 old phones i had and activated them in the place of the droids and kept the data plan. the ESN #s came back clean with Pages plus so i transfered them and activated them and bought airtime they now work on Pages plus.
Now could Verizon come back and block those ESN #s in say a month and could i get kicked off of Pages plus?
Since i now have them active with Pages plus can verizon do anything to those phones or are they untouchable?
tnat1 said:
I transferred over my 2 droids to Pages plus from verizon, i took 2 old phones i had and activated them in the place of the droids and kept the data plan. the ESN #s came back clean with Pages plus so i transfered them and activated them and bought airtime they now work on Pages plus.
Now could Verizon come back and block those ESN #s in say a month and could i get kicked off of Pages plus?
Since i now have them active with Pages plus can verizon do anything to those phones or are they untouchable?
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I don't know if they'll still be able to ban the ESN or not, but if they are able to do this and do it, then you will not be automatically kicked off; you will still be able to use your phone. However, if you ever have to deactivate and reactivate your phone on the network (for an issue or something), you won't be able to get it reactivated.
Rooted?
i have a rooted eris. i called the page plus and they said my esn showed an unknown device. Can i still activate it?
You can activate it. It is unknown because its not officially supported.
Sent from my FroyoEris using XDA App
I put an eris on PP when they first came out, worked great. I looking at buying another soon. Now the down side, Verizon changes the access at will regarding what PP can put on their net. If you already have it paid and making calls on PP, they are still allowing this. and the dealer is right, it is as simple as configuring the device to find PP when you go to log on. I have the 1200/1200 on my HTC Ozone and it works perfect. soooo, stay in touch and if i get this eris tonight I will try to get it configured and let you know the steps.
Parrot Bob
There are several great threads on Howardforums regarding how best to set up an Android phone to stay within the 50mb, for those looking for that info. I'm actually here now researching and looking to buy an Eris to activate like this for a friend. Which Rom are most of you using with pageplus and why?
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I don't think any rom really changes anything with page plus. I use celb froyo personally I download launcher pro I like that better than adw which comes with the rom. Just get 3g watchdog and you're good to go!
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Hi:
Up until now, I have been using T-Mobile ever since the XDA came out.
Used a "visorphone" before that. I do NOT use T-Mobile's Internet access (T-zones) ever since I got hit with a $180+ overage charge the first month I used it.
So.
Here is my issue:
Starting a few months ago, I noticed that, even though I do NOT use T-Mobile for any Internet access (I call up my own ISP instead from the XDA), T-Mobile are charging me something like $.50 for every email sent or received from the XDA using my own ISP. I suppose they monitor the traffic or something. When I protested that they shouldn't charge me for anything Internet-related, only the minutes used to call my ISP, they told me basically that they don't give a damn what I think, and that I will continue to be charged $.50 for every email. They show up on my bill as "e-note" to the phone number "500."
I think that's ridiculous and possibly illegal since it doesn't involve their servers or their services at all, but I don't have the energy to deal with their untrained "Wireless Data Group." It would take years to explain this to them. Just getting them on the phone took over 1 hour. This is partly a warning post, that this is what T-Mobile is doing, and we should know about it. So, I am looking into switching to AT&T.
My questions for anyone reading this:
1) anyone else have that billing issue with t-mobile?
2) is at&t any better? do they charge for internet traffic even if you haven't signed up for their services?
3) i don't think i have simlock issues, the unlock util from this site says that it's already unlocked. rom is 4.00.21 ENG, radio stack 6.24.00
from yorch.net.
4) is there anything i should know? won't this t-mobile build of "windows mobile 2003" rom work with at&t ?
any info appreciated, you can email thomas at pullen.com (removed the @ for the spam bots).
thanks!
TMO is pretty bad, iv experienced their levels of ignorance too, but once in a while, u can incounter sumone who knows alot about what they do
you should have never used tzones (if it wasnt unlimited) for transfering big amounts of data, thats why u got charged so much, for going over the allowd data amount
when connecting to your own ISP, are u connecting using THEIR # ? ... if so, then i dont know where TMO gets these ideas 4 charging u extra + the phone call :roll:
to unlock u need to go back to a 2002 rom, with the unlock software
ur build will work, but it would be better to switch to 4.00.05 , since u wont need all the useless TMO apps and what not
Hey tpullen,
Sorry to hear about your terrible time with T-Mobile.
Q: What type of plan do you have with T-Mobile?
If its only a voice plan with no data the .50 sounds about right and will be the same if you move over to AT&T. As a matter of fact AT&T's data charges are higher.
It doesn't matter that you're calling your own ISP, the fact still remains you're sending/receiving data on a voice only plan. :wink:
HTH
thanks
hey:
thanks for the replies. to answer your questions:
i had the t-mobile 3,000 minutes for $49 plan. it is only free long distance for the southeast u.s.; i think it's called a 'neighborhood' plan.
no data at all in my plan; i would call my own isp and surf the web and check email. only about 3 months ago t-mobile started charging me to check email, but not for the web. my complaint is that i am using my own isp, and the call comes out of my minutes. yes, it's sending data with a voice-only plan, but hey! i have a dial-up phone line, nothing fancy, a land line in my house. it's voice-only. if i plug a modem into my home phone line and call my isp, should i expect to get a bill from my phone company for every email i look at? to my way of thinking, and anyone is free to disagree, if i'm not USING your services then i don't want to PAY for your services. unless it is a t-mobile email, web, or proxy server i'm talking to, i don't expect to pay t-mobile. the minutes were already being deducted from my available minutes. that's all i should have to pay.
i don't think that's so outrageous.
i did unlock my phone with the xda dev build, then went back to the same tmobile windows mobile 2003 build. i wasn't sure if the xda "stays unlocked" once you unlock it and then put a new rom on, but it does.
now i have an at&t sim, and it works well enough, but the sort-of-funny thing is that you apparantly can NOT just call your own isp with at&t.
i can't seem to get a connection to work. so i don't know. maybe i will stay with at&t since they, according to their sales literature anyway, have a data network that's like 3 times faster than t-mobile's data network.
of course it's more $ for them.
whatever the case, i have 30 days to try at&t with no obligation, cancel any time, owe them nothing. everyone has that option right now, in fact, due to the new ftc "local number port" thing happening.
i'll let ya'll know how it goes if i stick with at&t. i can always stay with t-mobile, but i'm not sure if that's a good idea.
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tpullen said:
maybe i will stay with at&t since they, according to their sales literature anyway, have a data network that's like 3 times faster than t-mobile's data network. of course it's more $ for them.
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Sounds like you're talking about the EDGE service. Yeah, like 4 times the cost of T-Mobile's unlimited plan. I think I'll stick to the cheaper slower service.
tpullen said:
whatever the case, i have 30 days to try at&t with no obligation, cancel any time, owe them nothing. everyone has that option right now, in fact, due to the new ftc "local number port" thing happening.
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Owe them nothing?! You might want to read that literature again. You'll not pay a cancellation fee nor an activation fee, but you will owe them for the prorated amount of time you had service, and any other additional fees that you use. This is pretty standard in the wireless industry. So if you go over your prorated minutes for the month, you owe them airtime charges. Happened to me, so just be careful.
bye bye at&t
hi arkhangel:
yes, you are correct:
4. Every new customer gets a 30 day risk free trial. When you purchase a phone and activate service at an AT&T Wireless store or at attwireless.com, you can return your undamaged phone for a refund within the first 30 days and pay only for airtime and usage charges. It’s just one more way we can earn your trust.
so it is not without charge, and thank god i only made one 6-minute call.
as far as the EDGE network goes, it was so-so...i only viewed 2 webpages with it, they loaded pretty much as quickly as with any other data service over the xda...and the funny thing is that it consumed apparantly almost 2 mb to do so.
i am pretty frustrated now, the at&t customer service has been pretty rotten, but t-mobile isn't too great either.
i'm calling verizon next, to compare...
tpullen said:
They show up on my bill as "e-note" to the phone number "500."
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The phone is programmed to send an SMS to T-Mobile every time you reboot your PPCPE. These show up as e-notes to 500 just as you describe. Compare the timing of your email use vs. the timing of your reboots and see where the e-notes are coming from. I think you can purchase a bundle of a bunch (500?) of SMS messages (aka e-notes) for something like $2.99, so you could cap your cost that way.
You should also be aware that T-Mobile has gone to a flat rate for GPRS at $19.95 for unlimited internet. The comparable plan with AT&T is something like $80.
Has anyone tried changing there phone online using a different esn to a previous phone, then dropping the pda package? Im curious as this may be a cheap way for me to get a spare "Free" 9/month Droid Eris to test on.
Won't Work.
FireSokar said:
Has anyone tried changing there phone online using a different esn to a previous phone, then dropping the pda package? Im curious as this may be a cheap way for me to get a spare "Free" 9/month Droid Eris to test on.
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No it will not work because Verizon automatically adds either the 29.99 Data package or the 44.99 data plan. My wife works at Verizon and she can't even change the feature because it overrides it.
What the $45 data plan? I thought the $30 one was the unlimited one? No?
Im talking about a non pda phone, im simply wanting to register it to a basic phone then drop that package from that phone only. If its not a pda phone on there I dont see how verizon can force it to have the package.
Just for clarification im wanting to start off with two eris phones, change swap ESN's to a non pda phone. Then use my Eris no longer with service as wifi only / dismantle for testing purps.
FireSokar said:
Im talking about a non pda phone, im simply wanting to register it to a basic phone then drop that package from that phone only. If its not a pda phone on there I dont see how verizon can force it to have the package.
Just for clarification im wanting to start off with two eris phones, change swap ESN's to a non pda phone. Then use my Eris no longer with service as wifi only / dismantle for testing purps.
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yes you can do that and it will drop the email and web package not a problem
laxattack said:
yes you can do that and it will drop the email and web package not a problem
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From what I recall however, there was a stipulation I read on one of the boards, that you could be subject to a cancelation fee. I don't know how correct it is, or if it is acctually enforced. I seem to remember them instituting this to prevent this exact thing from happening, people get the Buy one Get one then sell the phone.
Like I said I am only realying information I read a few days ago, not sure what it was.
tbaker077 said:
What the $45 data plan? I thought the $30 one was the unlimited one? No?
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I've talked to a rep about this and the way I understand it, if you have a personal account, unlimited is $30, if you're on a corporate account, the same plan is $45.
$29.99 plan is unlimited ON the device. $45 plan also allows tethering of the device to your computer.
compnird said:
$29.99 plan is unlimited ON the device. $45 plan also allows tethering of the device to your computer.
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wrong!
$29.99 email and web is unlimited email and web for basic access.
$44.99 is for unlimted email and web with access to corporate email (ie. exchange server, or blackberry enterprise server for blackberrys)
tethering for $29.99 plan is $30.00
and tethering for $44.99 plan is $15.00
Trying to get around the system is not a good idea. It can be quite costly.
FireSokar said:
Has anyone tried changing there phone online using a different esn to a previous phone, then dropping the pda package? Im curious as this may be a cheap way for me to get a spare "Free" 9/month Droid Eris to test on.
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It'll work, I work for Verizon and have done this for many people that just want to get the free Eris on an add a line. Activate your old phone on the line the Eris is on and the data plan will fall off automatically. The system will not allow a 30 dollar web and email plan to attach to a non smart phone. You may have trouble doing this online due to the feature change, but I suggest that you try online first due to stores and customer service frowning on this action as it results in a revenue loss to the company. They also just gave you a free phone for nothing so they will give you a hard time.
If you don't have your old phone PM me and there is another way it can be done.
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wrong!
$29.99 email and web is unlimited email and web for basic access.
$44.99 is for unlimted email and web with access to corporate email (ie. exchange server, or blackberry enterprise server for blackberrys)
tethering for $29.99 plan is $30.00
and tethering for $44.99 plan is $15.00
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Almost right:
$29.99 email and web is unlimited email and web. Exchange and BIS (on Blackberry - Blackberry Internet (Consumer Mail) Server) is available on phones that are natively capable -Android, Palm OS, Web OS Window Mobile and Blackberry for consumer email.
$44.99 is for unlimited email and web with access to BES (Blackberry Enterprise Server) and/or Verizon's Wireless Sync program (If available for your device; WinMobile, not android). VzW's sync program is a bit useless and/or unavailable for most devices though. And the 44.99 plan is USELESS for an Android device.
For more information about wireless Sync: http://www.wsync.com/
Tethering for $29.99 plan is an additional $30.00 and not currently possible for Android
and tethering for $44.99 plan is $15.00 and not currently possible for Android
So, in closing the 44.99 plan is useless unless you have to connect to BES or NEED the Wireless Sync for Smartphones... which 99% of the population will not.
It really depends on the location you get the phone at. For example, I worked for an indirect agent that required an "equipment agreement", basically stating that if you either cancelled service, or stopped using the handset you bought within the first 6 months of service, you were required to return it, but the store I worked at after that did nothing like that. Pretty much, people can get whatever phone they want and do whatever they want with it, but like I said, that is store specific. I would recommend asking your local store what their policies are on it before you actually purchase anything.
Orrrr you could just use an eris on page plus celluar, which leases verizon service. Not against either companies rules and web sites like kitty wireless will take care of the all the activation and setup and b$ like that. This is what i did, i mainly use the data on wifi, and only turn it on for navigation or a quick web search, as i get 50 mb with my 30 dollar 1200 talk/1200 text prepaid plan.
FireSokar said:
Has anyone tried changing there phone online using a different esn to a previous phone, then dropping the pda package? Im curious as this may be a cheap way for me to get a spare "Free" 9/month Droid Eris to test on.
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That would be a silly felony. I prefer to save my felonies for something far more worthwhile.
jcase said:
That would be a silly felony. I prefer to save my felonies for something far more worthwhile.
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WHy is that a felony? He wants to take the eris off a line, put a non smartphone on the line and drop the data package. I did essentially the same thing when I added a line to get my eris. Took the eris off the new line, put it on my existing line, and put a non smartphone on the new line. Dropped the data off the new line. VZW customer service helped me do this.
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WHy is that a felony? He wants to take the eris off a line, put a non smartphone on the line and drop the data package. I did essentially the same thing when I added a line to get my eris. Took the eris off the new line, put it on my existing line, and put a non smartphone on the new line. Dropped the data off the new line. VZW customer service helped me do this.
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I read it the same way jcase did, not sure if thats what the op meant but it sounded like he wanted to flash an esn to his eris that belongs to a dumbphone. Cloning cell phones is illegal in the U.S.
there...
FireSokar said:
Just for clarification im wanting to start off with two eris phones, change swap ESN's to a non pda phone. Then use my Eris no longer with service as wifi only / dismantle for testing purps.
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He only wants an Eris to test on... so he's not swapping esn's... he's downgrading one plan in a sense so one Eris can be used to test, USING WIFI only and not 3G
It's sort of what I do, using a G1 and a pre-paid SIM card from t-mobile for testing.. I only use WiFi connected to my home network on this device.
I have a question regarding this topic, i have verizon and im going to be filling BK chp7 in the next month or so, i have 2 droid eris phones and i think i want to sell them. Since i am going to be putting my verizon bill on my BK i dont think they will release my ESN, should i go to Pageplus now or can i too get the service going with them as im going to do a pay as you go type of service. I also found a service online that says they can unlock my phone would this allow me to take the droids else where or even sell them without the new owners having issues getting them up and running?
Heres the link i found for the unlock code, does this stuff work and will it get my phone to be able to sell it or use it without verizon releasing the esn. Forgive me as im new to this whole esn thing.
Its htc unlocker is the website.
FireSokar said:
Im talking about a non pda phone, im simply wanting to register it to a basic phone then drop that package from that phone only. If its not a pda phone on there I dont see how verizon can force it to have the package.
Just for clarification im wanting to start off with two eris phones, change swap ESN's to a non pda phone. Then use my Eris no longer with service as wifi only / dismantle for testing purps.
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So basically you want to commit a felony?
Hi All,
I recently acquired a Droid Eris (Verizon) with a cracked digitizer. I got a new digitizer from Ebay and replaced it. The phone functioning great but here is my dilemma:
I want to use the phone with a prepaid plan with just the basics (calls and texts). I spoke to Verizon and they required text-adds, data etc totaling about 70 USD a month, way over my budget. The phone will primarily be used in areas where I have WLAN so I can use it with Google Voice.
What are my options? Can I use it on cricket without being web enabled? I wanted the 100 USD/year basic plan on Verizon, so thats my budget for this phone. Already have a Nexus 1 and fruity company phone 4.
Thanks!
My Droid eris works excellent on Page Plus Cellular pre-paid. Only $30 a month, 1200 txts, 1200 minutes, 50mb data.
jpzsports said:
My Droid eris works excellent on Page Plus Cellular pre-paid. Only $30 a month, 1200 txts, 1200 minutes, 50mb data.
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Out of the box? Did you need to root and/or reflash any part of the firmware to get it to work?
Also...I wonder if I can just buy minutes in chunks of 100 to keep the number alive.
I had my Eris flashed with houdini software by a local MetroPCS store for their $40 per month unlimited voice/txt plan. The trick is finding a store that will flash it for you.
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My Droid eris works excellent on Page Plus Cellular pre-paid. Only $30 a month, 1200 txts, 1200 minutes, 50mb data.
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Same for me, and my daughter. Plus I know of a handful of others on a different forum that are using PPC. My daughters phone was a new-ish insurance replacement and it worked with OTA programming. Mine came from someone else on Page Plus, and I had to program it manually. There are instructions online on how to do this. Let me know if you need them and I will find and forward.
If you do go with Page Plus, I highly recommend KittyWireless.com. She stands behind what she sells, and offers great customer service. It doesn't cost any more to go through a dealer.
startrekx said:
I had my Eris flashed with houdini software by a local MetroPCS store for their $40 per month unlimited voice/txt plan. The trick is finding a store that will flash it for you.
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Ok, thanks for the info, still way too much for what I need it for.
tmason68 said:
Same for me, and my daughter. Plus I know of a handful of others on a different forum that are using PPC. My daughters phone was a new-ish insurance replacement and it worked with OTA programming. Mine came from someone else on Page Plus, and I had to program it manually. There are instructions online on how to do this. Let me know if you need them and I will find and forward.
If you do go with Page Plus, I highly recommend KittyWireless.com. She stands behind what she sells, and offers great customer service. It doesn't cost any more to go through a dealer.
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If you find the instructions post a link in the forum so that others can benefit.
My goal though is to find a cheaper option for just calls for about 10 USD/month...dont care about the minutes, just want a number. As a last resort I guess I can sell the phone on Ebay and try and find a decent android phone that works with ATT.
bbbasher said:
Ok, thanks for the info, still way too much for what I need it for.
If you find the instructions post a link in the forum so that others can benefit.
My goal though is to find a cheaper option for just calls for about 10 USD/month...dont care about the minutes, just want a number. As a last resort I guess I can sell the phone on Ebay and try and find a decent android phone that works with ATT.
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Here is the link:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1603183-Droid-Droid-Eris-on-PP-Manual-Program-Howto-and-Guide
If you want to have a phone # but don't intend to use voice/text/data very much, Page Plus is tough to beat. You can buy a $10 pin every 120 days to keep your account active.
KittyWireless is offering free activations right now:
http://www.kittywireless.com/pageplus/activation.html
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Here is the link:
If you want to have a phone # but don't intend to use voice/text/data very much, Page Plus is tough to beat. You can buy a $10 pin every 120 days to keep your account active.
KittyWireless is offering free activations right now:
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Cool thank you! Any chance that I can get it to work with PP if I root the phone and load it with custom froyo firmware? :=)
Yes. It will definitely work. I am using xtrSense 4.6 right now, but I have played with nonsensikal, kaos and tazz Froyo builds. The phone service was never an issue.
tmason68 said:
Yes. It will definitely work. I am using xtrSense 4.6 right now, but I have played with nonsensikal, kaos and tazz Froyo builds. The phone service was never an issue.
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Sounds great. Tonight I rooted the phone and upgraded from stock 1.5 to 2.2.1 (FroShedYo). Tomorrow I will start looking at getting it programmed and activated on PagePlus.
Also...I have been following the activity on this forum for a while and I must say I am amazed and in awe of all the great work by this community.
Thanks to everyone that have contributed in this thread so far.
EDIT:
Activated it succesfully on Page Plus via kittywireless. Texts and calls worked OOTB no manual programming required. Completely disabled mobile data. Achieved my target...well actually beat it I have a 30 USD annual cost for having a phone number and free/calls texts via Google Voice over WLAN. Actually...if I answer the calls on the cell it will use minutes but I can ignore them and return call with google voice from a web browser. When Google relaunches Gizmo5 I can hopefully do all calls over IP with Google Voice on WLAN.
Excellent! It really is a great deal.
My phone was flashed to Verizon prepaid since November of last year and everything(3g mobile data, text, MMS) and all of a sudden today I got a data call failure error message 89 and the mobile data is not working all of a sudden and my phone can only make calls and text while roaming. Is there something I can do to fix this?
Verizon Wireless send new A-Key and AAA Password to combat flashing
So you know im in a wireless family.
I work at T-Mobile Corporate in Redmond, And my brother in New Jersey at verizon.
I personally use an optimus G SPRINT on Verizon Prepaid, Not that I dont like the T-Mobile speed, But lets be honest coverage sucks.
So the 1.5 to 2.5 MBPS nationwide I get on verizon is better. OK Back on point.
So my brother tells me Verizon is actively trying to combat the MIFI flashed to verizon prepaid, On mulitple fronts.
They have contacted ebay, and ebay sellers have been suspended.
And here is the one that sucks for all of us that use verizon prepaid.... They renew and send a new AAA Key every 4 to 7 days.....
And may also resend or renew the A-Key.
What that means for you if you are a verizon prepaid user and have a flashed phone but not the donor...... You sadly are screwed.
But I'm going to give you an easy fix, I have had to do it now twice.
You can also use QPST build 355 works for me, and copy all the data from the gusto to the other device.
Sadly my brother said they are not doing this targeting phone users, Verizon is not stupid they know people flash phones.
But they are targeting JETPACK and MIFI users.
He says in recent weeks they have seen Prepaid accounts that are using over 80GB of data a month on these supposed GUSTO's
So naturally verizon is now cracking down, This is similar to what Sprint and Boost Mobile did with ERROR 16.
Just giving you a heads up, And to flashers who flash the MiFi devices, Verizon is actively searching Craigslist and eBay, One eBay seller is now being sued by verizon and they found him on Craigslist in Salem, Oregon.
Just be careful, I use about 15GB a month on my Optimus and dont have any issues, Beyond having to reflash the info using the guide above once a week or so.
I also have seen less AAA resets when I keep the ROM Stock, And more resets and having to reflash when I got to a custom rom.
Hope this helps.
Yeah, it's a pain in the ass for sure...I have, let's say, X Amount of flashed phones around the country...and have been racking my brain trying to make sense out of it...and there's definitely theories all over the place but as this gentleman has described, the phones losing 3g is just collateral damage. I will say that less than 20% of my phones seem to be affected...I have found certain areas to be more troublesome than others, but if flashed correctly the data use doesn't even show up on Verizons side...but that's a different discussion all together. I've seen phones that had to have the data reprogrammed only once about 2 months ago & have not been bothered since, some that have only lasted a few hours each time it was done...it's completely up to Verizon at this point - I think they're rolling the keys based off tower output more than on a schedule though...if a particular tower seems to be sucking up a lot of data (because they can see it from an infastructure level) then they roll the keys on everything connected to that tower. I'm sure they're doing it on some sort of schedule as well, but the truth is, out of all of the devices that I have access to and have been logging behavior on, there is no real pattern at this point.
I honestly don't think they'll keep it up though after they find the heavy duty data abusers. Fiscally it will hurt them badly. As an example, in the past month I've moved about 30 customers from VZPP to an alternate carrier...I'm certain it's a safe assumption that I'm probably one of 10,000 (at least) in the US that do this type of thing on the same scale. If each of us move 30 accounts per month, that's 1.5 million per month in lost revenue per month that they're going to sustain just based off my estimate. That's not counting the 5 here, 5 there, couple over there, etc that are DIYers, etc. I'm guessing my estimate is probably very low...but for the sake of argument it's 1.5 Million in revenue a month that they don't have to advertise for, they don't have to provide tech support for, no customer service, no out of pocket cost except maintenance that they already do anyway. The network is still super fast & reliable, so they're nowhere near capacity obviously, so the beancounters at some point are going to have to evaluate which is the lesser of the two evils and I think the key rolling is going to be the greater. If my estimate is correct, that's 18 million per year in recurring revenue that they get on a total "no sweat" deal - I don't care how big a company is, you can't afford that loss.
It's also a safe assumption that they don't care much about the phones...I know, with my own infastructure knowledge, that given a month with their internal network and I could easily identify 80% or more of the flashed phones operating on it and remove them...considering they have a huge team of IT people and endless resources if they wanted them gone, they would be gone.
I honestly believe that this will eventually blow over as long as the flagrant abusers aren't shoving it in their faces and neener neener neenering them to death with the MiFi's which I've even seen for sale "No Bill" style on Amazon...
and people wonder why it's getting harder & harder to get answers, guides, etc from people that frontline this type of thing....hell I've seen laptops for sale on eBay with downloaded software & guides from this very site as well as others on how to flash "Item X" in a complete do it yourself bundle...then people that selfishly made a couple hundred bucks doing it cry because their stuff don't work anymore.
I figured out a couple of alternate ways to combat it very quickly, and some other solutions to keep people in the unlimited plans cheap but am afraid if I share it openly then it's just going to go viral and cause the same problems again...it wouldn't upset me at all if there were a more advanced "pay section" of this site for the serious people to share with each other & keep this type of thing under control. Just a thought.
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Yeah, it's a pain in the ass for sure...I have, let's say, X Amount of flashed phones around the country...and have been racking my brain trying to make sense out of it...and there's definitely theories all over the place but as this gentleman has described, the phones losing 3g is just collateral damage. I will say that less than 20% of my phones seem to be affected...I have found certain areas to be more troublesome than others, but if flashed correctly the data use doesn't even show up on Verizons side...but that's a different discussion all together. I've seen phones that had to have the data reprogrammed only once about 2 months ago & have not been bothered since, some that have only lasted a few hours each time it was done...it's completely up to Verizon at this point - I think they're rolling the keys based off tower output more than on a schedule though...if a particular tower seems to be sucking up a lot of data (because they can see it from an infastructure level) then they roll the keys on everything connected to that tower. I'm sure they're doing it on some sort of schedule as well, but the truth is, out of all of the devices that I have access to and have been logging behavior on, there is no real pattern at this point.
I honestly don't think they'll keep it up though after they find the heavy duty data abusers. Fiscally it will hurt them badly. As an example, in the past month I've moved about 30 customers from VZPP to an alternate carrier...I'm certain it's a safe assumption that I'm probably one of 10,000 (at least) in the US that do this type of thing on the same scale. If each of us move 30 accounts per month, that's 1.5 million per month in lost revenue per month that they're going to sustain just based off my estimate. That's not counting the 5 here, 5 there, couple over there, etc that are DIYers, etc. I'm guessing my estimate is probably very low...but for the sake of argument it's 1.5 Million in revenue a month that they don't have to advertise for, they don't have to provide tech support for, no customer service, no out of pocket cost except maintenance that they already do anyway. The network is still super fast & reliable, so they're nowhere near capacity obviously, so the beancounters at some point are going to have to evaluate which is the lesser of the two evils and I think the key rolling is going to be the greater. If my estimate is correct, that's 18 million per year in recurring revenue that they get on a total "no sweat" deal - I don't care how big a company is, you can't afford that loss.
It's also a safe assumption that they don't care much about the phones...I know, with my own infastructure knowledge, that given a month with their internal network and I could easily identify 80% or more of the flashed phones operating on it and remove them...considering they have a huge team of IT people and endless resources if they wanted them gone, they would be gone.
I honestly believe that this will eventually blow over as long as the flagrant abusers aren't shoving it in their faces and neener neener neenering them to death with the MiFi's which I've even seen for sale "No Bill" style on Amazon...
and people wonder why it's getting harder & harder to get answers, guides, etc from people that frontline this type of thing....hell I've seen laptops for sale on eBay with downloaded software & guides from this very site as well as others on how to flash "Item X" in a complete do it yourself bundle...then people that selfishly made a couple hundred bucks doing it cry because their stuff don't work anymore.
I figured out a couple of alternate ways to combat it very quickly, and some other solutions to keep people in the unlimited plans cheap but am afraid if I share it openly then it's just going to go viral and cause the same problems again...it wouldn't upset me at all if there were a more advanced "pay section" of this site for the serious people to share with each other & keep this type of thing under control. Just a thought.
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And your whole point is? This poor individual is trying to find some help and apparently he is not getting anything. Instead you should write a guide on how to extract more data from the Gusto in order to receive the new keys properly. It has happened to me before but speed increased after unlocking the phone. I was on the 35/plan before and it gave me the same error, it lasts for about 2 days and then error 89 shows up, sometimes a day, that was before. I'm unsure why they keep doing this and why isn't the flashed phone getting the new key automatically like the Gusto 2. There must be a way to make this work.
I'm still trying to figure out why Verizon is cracking down on flashed phones when that's clearly more customers.
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Sprint code
I gota the error 16 code when I obtained s-off. Everything worked but text an call it took me to sprint. I just told the lady I did a hard reset to clear all my data. She said ok you r all set now have a good day. RT away text starting coming thru. I did read the due security with radio firmware. Someone else said it's just a way to log users. Idk myself I due know she ask no questions She already knew why I was calling.
so..mmm, where is the easy fix???
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What that means for you if you are a verizon prepaid user and have a flashed phone but not the donor...... You sadly are screwed.
But I'm going to give you an easy fix, I have had to do it now twice.
You can also use QPST build 355 works for me, and copy all the data from the gusto to the other device.
I also have seen less AAA resets when I keep the ROM Stock, And more resets and having to reflash when I got to a custom rom.
hope this helps.
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i have a vzw 3g phone wich i used to pull the data settings and i have the gusto in its package.
so what can I do... how does the easy fix works??
error 8998 unknown fix!
I USED A VERIZON 3G PHONE (a galaxy 1) I changed the esn/meid using dfs .
It went to the activation process.. no data
did factory reset.
Once rebooted I got 3g.
put it on the computer again and using DFS i looked and there was like 6 new PASSWORDS!!!
PAP, PPP, HDR AN, HDR AN LONG , HDR AN PPP AND The ones where the profile is edited.
i simply reflashed my d710 with the new info and got go sms for the mms.
Working good as usual
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I USED A VERIZON 3G PHONE (a galaxy 1) I changed the esn/meid using dfs .
It went to the activation process.. no data
did factory reset.
Once rebooted I got 3g.
put it on the computer again and using DFS i looked and there was like 6 new PASSWORDS!!!
PAP, PPP, HDR AN, HDR AN LONG , HDR AN PPP AND The ones where the profile is edited.
i simply reflashed my d710 with the new info and got go sms for the mms.
Working good as usual
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Verizon changed again the passwords.... thanks to my fascinate i got everything again... but the flash doesnt work anymore with my d710 sprint phone... looks like verizon added more security..
im stuck using my old i500...
susy1990 said:
My phone was flashed to Verizon prepaid since November of last year and everything(3g mobile data, text, MMS) and all of a sudden today I got a data call failure error message 89 and the mobile data is not working all of a sudden and my phone can only make calls and text while roaming. Is there something I can do to fix this?
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I'm on the same boot, i keep getting error 89 and my phone is on roaming, unfortunately i don't have the donor
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susy1990 said:
My phone was flashed to Verizon prepaid since November of last year and everything(3g mobile data, text, MMS) and all of a sudden today I got a data call failure error message 89 and the mobile data is not working all of a sudden and my phone can only make calls and text while roaming. Is there something I can do to fix this?
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TechSoft said:
So you know im in a wireless family.
I work at T-Mobile Corporate in Redmond, And my brother in New Jersey at verizon.
I personally use an optimus G SPRINT on Verizon Prepaid, Not that I dont like the T-Mobile speed, But lets be honest coverage sucks.
So the 1.5 to 2.5 MBPS nationwide I get on verizon is better. OK Back on point.
So my brother tells me Verizon is actively trying to combat the MIFI flashed to verizon prepaid, On mulitple fronts.
They have contacted ebay, and ebay sellers have been suspended.
And here is the one that sucks for all of us that use verizon prepaid.... They renew and send a new AAA Key every 4 to 7 days.....
And may also resend or renew the A-Key.
What that means for you if you are a verizon prepaid user and have a flashed phone but not the donor...... You sadly are screwed.
But I'm going to give you an easy fix, I have had to do it now twice.
You can also use QPST build 355 works for me, and copy all the data from the gusto to the other device.
Sadly my brother said they are not doing this targeting phone users, Verizon is not stupid they know people flash phones.
But they are targeting JETPACK and MIFI users.
He says in recent weeks they have seen Prepaid accounts that are using over 80GB of data a month on these supposed GUSTO's
So naturally verizon is now cracking down, This is similar to what Sprint and Boost Mobile did with ERROR 16.
Just giving you a heads up, And to flashers who flash the MiFi devices, Verizon is actively searching Craigslist and eBay, One eBay seller is now being sued by verizon and they found him on Craigslist in Salem, Oregon.
Just be careful, I use about 15GB a month on my Optimus and dont have any issues, Beyond having to reflash the info using the guide above once a week or so.
I also have seen less AAA resets when I keep the ROM Stock, And more resets and having to reflash when I got to a custom rom.
Hope this helps.
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that's not what the OP asked
I just got my new Nexus 5, will be sad to say goodbye to the Rezound and this community. I didn't say much here, but I did read these forums almost daily.
My question is this. I've been in a dispute with VZW over what I owe them and have been having problems getting some things removed from my bill that never should have been there. So I decided that VZW is getting fired now that my contract has ended. Since I'm still disputing the billing, I know my phone can't be sold cleanly. So I was wondering if there is any value to it for use on a GMS network maybe.
The thing is in perfect condition, it's been kept in an Otterbox since day 1. I'll be selling it with the Otterbox defender, which is only a few months old, they sent me a brand new one for free when my old one had a charging port flap tear off. I also am throwing in 3 of the ExtMicro USB cables that are HTC OEM cables. You'd never know the phone was 2 years old looking at it.
Other things of note, it's S-Off, has all the latest radios, etc. I followed REV3NT3CH's guide How to Downgrade, Factory Restore, and fully update the Rezound so it should have everything current.
Not trying to sell it in here, I know it's against the rules so don't reply in here if you are interested, I'll probably list it on ebay based on what I hear from you guys. I just want to know if it's worth listing based on having the bad esn, the condition, being fully upgraded and S-Off and including the Otterbox and 3 ExtMicro usb cables.
Thanks
If you do sell it obviously its worth is decreased than that of a normal clean ESN rezound.... I can't say if gsm will still work or not but there are many uses with WiFi only options
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FWIW my 2-year Rezound contract with Verizon only made it to six months (maybe one or two more) before my place of employment closed down. I couldn't pay my bill any longer and the account now sits with a collection agency. For the longest time I did texts and calls using Google Voice and GrooVe IP on WiFi. However, I am currently using a ST AT&T SIM from a StraightTalk BYOP starter kit successfully. I have not attempted to register it on the ST CDMA plan so no input on that.
If you don't test it with a SIM, buyer should be made aware the phone may not work anyhow due to ESN... and even if it does get on GSM, data speeds on US carriers are restricted to slow 2G EDGE without advanced hacks (that still only yield 3G in extremely strong signal spots atm).
I've decided to wait until I get my billing dispute worked out.
I did have one question, I have my old Droid X sitting in a drawer, it works fine, but has some dead spots on the screen. If I activate that phone on the line my Rezound is currently assigned to, will that free the Rezound from my Verizon account so I could sell it, and tie my Droid X back to the account?
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I've decided to wait until I get my billing dispute worked out.
I did have one question, I have my old Droid X sitting in a drawer, it works fine, but has some dead spots on the screen. If I activate that phone on the line my Rezound is currently assigned to, will that free the Rezound from my Verizon account so I could sell it, and tie my Droid X back to the account?
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Yes, it should... that being said, if you are having a billing dispute with Verizon they may not be willing to change it, since this would require a plan change from a 4G plan to a 3G plan. You would have to call customer service and see.