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Anyone have a solution for this? I'd like to be able to play MP3's through my car stereo (via FM transmitter), as well as have it plugged into my car lighter to keep it charged.
I figure I can buy the audio adapter and plug it into a generic FM transmitter. I could also buy a boxwave Versacharger to charge it. But I can't do both at the same time b/c they both use the mini USB.
In any event, this proprietary crap sucks.
The only option I'm aware of:
http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=140425
yes, this is the UNIC option.. because:
a) HTC Proprietary connector: it's VERY DIFFICULT to find this type of mini-usb connector
b) Stereo headphones provided with hermes DOESN't have cables to charge the pda
Expensive option... get a bluetooth headset with 3.5mm input to connect to your FM transmitter ... and say bye bye to wired music.. almost..
sickchilly said:
The only option I'm aware of:
http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=140425
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Excellent! Exactly what I was looking for....
new2city said:
Expensive option... get a bluetooth headset with 3.5mm input to connect to your FM transmitter ... and say bye bye to wired music.. almost..
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Heheh... I actually thought of that. I think I'll go with the cheaper option
Here's how I did it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1078942&postcount=26
Has anyone managed to not only get the sound going through their speakers, but have their stereo mute on incoming call?
I'm not sure this is possible. I imagine your average phone has a pin it sets closed or high or something. The hermes doesn't seem to..
URPREY: Does the adaptor give you one standard mini usb for charging then split the 'special' audio pins to the other standard mini usb? Did you then just adapt a mini usb cable to hook into the line level inputs of your stereo?
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URPREY: Does the adaptor give you one standard mini usb for charging then split the 'special' audio pins to the other standard mini usb? Did you then just adapt a mini usb cable to hook into the line level inputs of your stereo?
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It gives me one mini USB for charging, and a port exactly like that on the hermes for the audio/headset portion. I used a usb to 3.5mm adapter from mobileplanet.com to give me the 3.5mm audio out.
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It gives me one mini USB for charging, and a port exactly like that on the hermes for the audio/headset portion. I used a usb to 3.5mm adapter from mobileplanet.com to give me the 3.5mm audio out.
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Yep, sorry, didn't see the extra adapter. That's a shame. It makes the very expensive first plug poor value for money.
If they come out with an adapter that turns it into mini USB and 3.5mm I'll go for it.. otherwise..
2 other q's:
1) With the first adapter, can you then use ANY usb car charger (ie does it bridge the NC pin to ground?) or do you then need your car charger to do that
2) What triggers 'headphone' detection? Is it the first adapter, the stereo adapter or is it actually plugging speakers into the stereo adapter?
This information would be extremely helpful, thank you!
icemantwilight said:
1) With the first adapter, can you then use ANY usb car charger (ie does it bridge the NC pin to ground?) or do you then need your car charger to do that
2) What triggers 'headphone' detection? Is it the first adapter, the stereo adapter or is it actually plugging speakers into the stereo adapter?
This information would be extremely helpful, thank you!
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I can use any car charger, but the other ones I have don't provide enough power to consistently cause the 8525 to recognize the charger (and thus they don't always charge).
I don't know the answer to your second question. I'd be happy to check it out for you tomorrow when it's light outside again
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I can use any car charger, but the other ones I have don't provide enough power to consistently cause the 8525 to recognize the charger (and thus they don't always charge).
I don't know the answer to your second question. I'd be happy to check it out for you tomorrow when it's light outside again
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Cheers for that. By not consistently recognize you mean it detects it the first time you plug it in then not anymore? If so that sounds like what I've found too.. it's due to the 'spare' pin 4 (or 2 or B depending what diagram you're looking at) not being grounded. The fact it detects it once per reset seems to be a bug.
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Cheers for that. By not consistently recognize you mean it detects it the first time you plug it in then not anymore?
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Correct. The car charger that came with my device holder works perfectly and consistently charges my phone every time I plug it in, so I've always use that one.
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I don't know the answer to your second question. I'd be happy to check it out for you tomorrow when it's light outside again
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Had a chance to look at this?
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Had a chance to look at this?
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Sorry - yes. With just the audio adapter hooked up, the sound continues to come out of the rear speaker. When I plug in the headphones, the sound switches to the headphones. Hope that helps.
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Sorry - yes. With just the audio adapter hooked up, the sound continues to come out of the rear speaker. When I plug in the headphones, the sound switches to the headphones. Hope that helps.
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Yep thanks. From this I can work out from the pin outs that have been worked out that the tytn detects headphones (and thus shuts off the back speaker) by testing impedance/capacitance or something on the speaker out cables.
Since there are no official cradles for the tytn I'm looking at knocking up a solution like yours, charge in the car and gps nav through the stereo (was hoping for auto stereo mute on call but that's a pipe dream) and doing it without the 2 expensive adapters and car charger my jasjam didn't have.
I've gathered a bit of info about the usb connection from various sites and forum topics. Maybe I should create a/add to the hermes usb port page in the wiki, if anyone but me is interested..
I hope the tytn Y cable is NEEDED, because there isn't a male "minu usb" jack like the one on the hermes in commerce. Cutting original headphones has no results because you can't charge it.
I have thought to buy tytn y cable, open it, and if there is some space inside, to add a 2.5mm - 3.5mm (depends on the free space) jack
So the Y adapter has 3 outputs: to charge, headset & jack.
If no space is avaiable, i cut my headphones and plug it from y cable to my stereo (also with mic included).
Another thing, to detect ORIGINAL CHARGER must be connected B & A pins, as described in THIS url comments
I agree with wiki page
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Another thing, to detect ORIGINAL CHARGER must be connected B & A pins, as described in THIS url comments
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Ah yeah, I'm Iceman, I wrote that
Based mainly on comments in this thread, some other posts and some jiggery pokery with a multimeter and checking pinouts.
icemantwilight said:
Has anyone managed to not only get the sound going through their speakers, but have their stereo mute on incoming call?
Parrot makes a BT car kit that connects into all factory stereos to use the speakers to play the phone or mp3 through the car stereo speakers. Obviously the mic is a separate item, but incoming calls (or listing to mp3s from your BT phone) do mute the car stereo during the call.
several kits work, but I have Parrot CK3000 Evolution Bluetooth, Hands-Free Car Kit which came with specific harnesses for my car make and model. The other one is a bit flashier here:
http://www.abtelectronics.com/scripts/site/site_product.php3?source=froogle&id=24115
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Since there are no official cradles for the tytn I'm looking at knocking up a solution like yours, charge in the car and gps nav through the stereo (was hoping for auto stereo mute on call but that's a pipe dream) and doing it without the 2 expensive adapters and car charger my jasjam didn't have.
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Auto stereo mute works fine if you use WMP or even with TCPMP if you uncheck the "play music in background" option
Does anyone know of a well built Hermes car kit that supplies power to the unit while also providing a connection to the stereo audio output so that it can be sent to the car audio system? I've been searching xda-dev, ebay and various online stores but unable to find something that does stereo audio.
This would be great for music in the car while not draining the battery.
Hi.
Yeah we have one here in Denmark. Look at this´one:
http://tele-online.dk/product.asp?product=15556&sub=68
maybe you should ask the dealer where he buys this and if theres a european distributor selling them
I'm not sure about the Dopod, however my att 8525 came with a usb y-cable so that it can charge and use the headphones at the same time....with a usb to 1/8th inch adapter you'd be streamin!...
pockePC techs HandsFree & Charging Adapter
I bought one off these and it works great. I use it in my MDX with a cassette audio adapter so the sound comes through the car speakers, the mic picks up perfect with no feedback. I use PPC tech for my adapter for my wizard, they definitely know what they are doing. Check them out.
HandsFree & Charging Adapter
Does this offer that ability to charge with a standard car charger? Do you plug you standard car charger into the female bin, while the other usb being plugged into the phone? And the 3.5 mm just accepts any audio device with 3.5 mm connector?
I am currently connecting my TC to the car stereo through one of those casettes that have an audio jack connection and the YC A120 cable. The problem with this solution is that I get a lot of annoying noise when the phone is lloking for a cell signal.
So I thought about buyinng one of those car stereos that have a frontal USB port for aux connection. I went to a shop recently and tried one out ad to my surprise I could not get it to work with the TC, it would seem that there is no audio output. Has anyone been able to connect their TC to the car stereo in this way? The salesman demonstrated that the stereo connnection did work by connection his Nokia phone and it work fine. One thing I did notice was that the Nokia phone displayed a message "transfering data" as teh music was playing.
I don't want to buy a bluletooth car stereo since I am looking at changing my car soon. So the other option is to buy a car stereo with a frontal audio 3.5 jack aux connection, but i was wondering whx the USB did not work.
I think you must try WM5TORAGE ... you must plug a USB key on the USB port, so if you install and activate WM5TORAGE, your POLARIS seems like a USB storage and your autoradio can scan your folder on your storage card.
I don't test but i think it will work.
Greg O is correct, the USB input on car stereos works only for mass storage. WM phones don't support mass storage natively you must use a program like WM5 Storage (which incidentally doesn't work at all with the TC) or CardExport. But its prob better to either go the bluetooth or 3.5mm aux in route. Or if you really wanna do the USB thing, I would probably rather remove miniSD card from the phone and load it on the car using a USB miniSD card reader than use WM5 Storage.
FYI: Your new car won't support A2DP stock, no cars do so currently, so you'll probably want to transfer over the aftermarket radio you buy.
I used a usb mini to 3.5mm jack converter then used a 3.5mm jack to 2 RCA cable to connect to the aux in my stereo.
Becuase the usb mini to 3.5mm jack converter has a mike in as well I can use this setup for hands free use over the car speakers.
You have another solution :
Parrot MK6100 or IO Play ... you play music on your TC and music is transmit to your autoradio via stereo bluetooth A2DP !! No cable !
and you have a great handfree system... I think I will buy one of this system in the future.
I have just fitted an LG LAC7700R CD/ Radio which has a front mounted 3,5MM socket but it also sports Bluetooth A2DP along with other modes. It connects to my Orbit 2 with no problems and plays music without any wires - sounds great, just a shame its not the best looking deck available, but for £124 new its not bad at all - Mke
greg_o said:
You have another solution :
Parrot MK6100 or IO Play ... you play music on your TC and music is transmit to your autoradio via stereo bluetooth A2DP !! No cable !
and you have a great handfree system... I think I will buy one of this system in the future.
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I bought this one:
http://cgi.ebay.nl/a15-3-5mm-Stereo...ryZ80085QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
works excellent with the TC and not expensive.
I posted a reply to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450197 because it also talks about such an adapter, but I thought I would post a new thread for the phone that I actually have.
I'm looking for a extUSB to 3.5mm adapter, but not the common kind that allows you to plug in stereo headphones or has a microphone built inside the adapter. I'm looking for an adapter that allows you to plug in stereo headsets with in-line microphones. These headsets are designed for iPhones and BlackBerrys and has a 3.5mm connector with an extra ring to support the microphone, and I'm hoping to find an extUSB adapter that supports 3.5mm connectors with three rings so the microphone would work. Does anyone know if such a thing exists? Thanks.
I use this one. It's kind of big but it is the only i can find that I am able to use my iphone headphones with inline mic. After cupcake came out the adapter stopped working but is now working with cyanogen's rom. I would love to find another smaller one that will work with an inline mic.
Thank you so much flowidc for confirming that such a thing actually exists! Please keep me up to date on your quest to find a smaller version of the adapter.
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I use this one. It's kind of big but it is the only i can find that I am able to use my iphone headphones with inline mic. After cupcake came out the adapter stopped working but is now working with cyanogen's rom. I would love to find another smaller one that will work with an inline mic.
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is this adapter still working for you in Cyans 4.04? mine isnt being detected.
Figured it out. you need the ToggleHeaadset.apk
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is this adapter still working for you in Cyans 4.04? mine isnt being detected.
Figured it out. you need the ToggleHeaadset.apk
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mine never broke. only time it didn't work was in OTA cupcake
I have this same HTC usb to stereo with mic adapter and have used it with Cyan 4.04, Cyan 41x, and all the Hero Roms and had no problems. I use both Blackberry earpieces w/ mic and a cheapo earpiece w/ mic. I like way better than the regular HTC usb adapter and earbuds.
I found it on Ebay, I offered the guy $5 and he accepted my offer. Here is the link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330350650612&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
this might be a stupid question, but would the HTC Multifunction Audio Adapter allow you to use a headset that comes with a mic, or would you have to use a earpiece along with an inline microphone?
thanks
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this might be a stupid question, but would the HTC Multifunction Audio Adapter allow you to use a headset that comes with a mic, or would you have to use a earpiece along with an inline microphone?
thanks
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You just use a headset that has a built in mic.
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Nevermind, same thing already posted but for much less...
Try this instead
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-OEM-Stereo-Headphones-Headset-Adapter-GOOGLE-G1_W0QQitemZ220410822003QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item3351823d73&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Great adapter and good build quality too (it has rubbery coating on the cable and it doesn't feel/look cheap unlike some adapters with this style). Great for driving headset since it already has built-in mic. You can use any headphones you want, even though I think the original pair that comes with it performs quite well. The downside is that there's no manual volume control on it, but I can live with that.
Dream not of inline microphones...
I got the OEM adapter as well, but on my ADP1, it doesn't fully work;
I can charge, but the 3.5 and 2.5 jacks are dead. They neither work as outputs or inputs. If I plug an EXtUSB to 3.5 adapter into the EXTUSB headset port on the OEM adapter, the phone's microphone is disabled.
I really want an adapter that can be used to connect, via 3.5 wire, to the car stereo, and still be able to use the phone's microphone, or be able to plug in an external microphone for hands-free use.
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I got the OEM adapter as well, but on my ADP1, it doesn't fully work;
I can charge, but the 3.5 and 2.5 jacks are dead. They neither work as outputs or inputs. If I plug an EXtUSB to 3.5 adapter into the EXTUSB headset port on the OEM adapter, the phone's microphone is disabled.
I really want an adapter that can be used to connect, via 3.5 wire, to the car stereo, and still be able to use the phone's microphone, or be able to plug in an external microphone for hands-free use.
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I have a similar setup, I discovered yesterday on the way home a way to get audio through the 3.5mm jack. This is a convoluted way, but it did work.
1. I had my OEM adapter plugged in
2. I plugged in my OEM headset to the headset jack
3. I plugged in the 3.5mm adapter into the 3.5mm jack
4. Started the music player
The sound came through both the headset and the car radio, unplugged the headset and the sound continued to play through the radio. Once the 3.5mm jack is unplugged, the process will need to be repeated. I hope this helps.
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Hello!
I recently picked up a pixel 6, very happy with it so far except for the fact that my car is too old for the bluetooth to carry music to the radio.
I was wondering if anybody has managed to find a type c to 3.5mm cable that works? I have tried a type c to 3.5mm adaptor and it doesn't work, I think I need a straight type c to 3.5mm cable instead of an adaptor?
Before anybody asks, I have an fm transmiter but not really enjoying the experience between static or the bluetooth getting confused with the car itself.
I don't see why a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter shouldn't work. Try finding one on amazon that specifically advertises use in cars. It could be possible that the one you have is incompatible, manufacturers tend to make adapters that only work in specific circumstances.
You need an active adapter with integrated DAC (digital to analogue converter). Passive ones will not work. You better get the google cable if available. Apple one works but is too quiet in android. In fact any active cable should work.
Thank you both.
I have seen this one on Amazon, this is what I need I guess?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/KOOPAO-Adapter-Headphone-Stereo-Compatible-Grey/dp/B07Z3TRJKS/ref=sr_1_4?crid=VG53YFREW7S7&keywords=Type+C+to+3.5mm+Stereo+Audio+Cable&qid=1641755818&sprefix=type+c+to+3.5mm+stereo+audio+cable%2Caps%2C84&sr=8-4
I use this one:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08Y7YXHSB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
An alternative if you have 12v power in your car is using a USB Bluetooth to 3.5mm device like this one.
Hagibis Bluetooth Receiver Bluetooth 5.0 Adapter Hands-Free Bluetooth Car Kits AUX Audio 3.5mm Jack Stereo Music Wireless Receiver for Car Speaker Home Built-in Microphone (U3-Grey) : Amazon.com.au: Electronics
Hagibis Bluetooth Receiver Bluetooth 5.0 Adapter Hands-Free Bluetooth Car Kits AUX Audio 3.5mm Jack Stereo Music Wireless Receiver for Car Speaker Home Built-in Microphone (U3-Grey) : Amazon.com.au: Electronics
www.amazon.com.au
That way you can still be wireless and have Bluetooth in an older car, without having to deal with those hit or miss radio adaptors
I have this issue since using the Galaxy S21, the way I fixed it, start playing music on the phone speaker, then connect the cable, and it will start working, it happens all the time, that why I bought a cheap Bluetooth receiver from Walmart, best $8 I've spent in years.
cervantesjc said:
I have this issue since using the Galaxy S21, the way I fixed it, start playing music on the phone speaker, then connect the cable, and it will start working, it happens all the time, that why I bought a cheap Bluetooth receiver from Walmart, best $8 I've spent in years.
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I thought to do the same but the phone shows that the connected device is not supported
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You need an active adapter with integrated DAC (digital to analogue converter). Passive ones will not work. You better get the google cable if available. Apple one works but is too quiet in android. In fact any active cable should work.
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Just to clear up what that actually means for OP: a passive adapter will work only on USB-C ports that are able to route an *analog* signal. These are fairly uncommon -- most USB-C ports are digital only.
The nice thing about digital output is that you get to control the sound quality by selecting a USB-DAC of a quality that meets your needs, instead of being limited to whatever cheap thing they built in to the phone.
Physically, you can't even tell the difference any more. While USB-DAC's used to always involve a "big ugly box", the circuitry has shrunk these days to small enough to fit into the ends of the dongle.
The headphone adapter sold by Google is an example of this, its a USB-DAC, but shows no sign of containing any significant components besides the connectors.
I tried one that came with an old Motorola phone and it did not work, but Google sells one. They should be able to confirm if it works before you order it
https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_headphone_adapter?hl=en-US
I've personally tried 3 different ones that have worked for me, the first one was from an old Motorola phone, the second one, was one that I bought at an airport, I believe the brand is Moshi, and the third one was coming from a one plus phone. They all worked by playing on phone speaker and then plugging it.
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I've personally tried 3 different ones that have worked for me, the first one was from an old Motorola phone, the second one, was one that I bought at an airport, I believe the brand is Moshi, and the third one was coming from a one plus phone. They all worked by playing on phone speaker and then plugging it.
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Which Moto phone? My Moto Z(2) Force one gives an error message that the audio device is not supported.
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Which Moto phone? My Moto Z(2) Force one gives an error message that the audio device is not supported.
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It is the moto Z2 Force, I've used it a couple times, and I had no issues.
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It is the moto Z2 Force, I've used it a couple times, and I had no issues.
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It works on your Pixel 6? Maybe mine is defective??
This discussion is very interesting. Generally pixel 6 (and previous pixels also) do not send analogue audio signal to the usb type c port hence passive converters from type c to 3.5 mm do not work. You need active converter with integrated DAC (digital to analogue converter) in it so that the digital audio from the usb type c port is transformed to analogue signal and sent to the headphones or whatever else. Every phone though has integrated DAC in the chipset because otherwise it would not be able to drive its own speakers with analogue signal. When i tried to connect my passive DAC adapter from oneplus 7 phone i got error on the pixel 6 that cable is not compatible. It is possible if you play something through the speakers analogue signal to also be copied towards the usb type c port and this way to trick passive adapters to also work but this need to be tested. I think that i still have the passive adapter somewhere and will test these days if i find it.
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This discussion is very interesting. Generally pixel 6 (and previous pixels also) do not send analogue audio signal to the usb type c port hence passive converters from type c to 3.5 mm do not work. You need active converter with integrated DAC (digital to analogue converter) in it so that the digital audio from the usb type c port is transformed to analogue signal and sent to the headphones or whatever else. Every phone though has integrated DAC in the chipset because otherwise it would not be able to drive its own speakers with analogue signal. When i tried to connect my passive DAC adapter from oneplus 7 phone i got error on the pixel 6 that cable is not compatible. It is possible if you play something through the speakers analogue signal to also be copied towards the usb type c port and this way to trick passive adapters to also work but this need to be tested. I think that i still have the passive adapter somewhere and will test these days if i find it.
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I tried an adapter from a Oneplus 6 (if memory serves) and I had the same problem, hence the thread
Given the one from Google looks just the same I am apprehensive to buy it until I am 100% certain
Today DAC circuits are so small that it is easy to integrate these into the usb type c part of the cable. There is no way to tell if cable is active or passive only by looking at it anymore. Google cable should work fine. Alternatively you can try the trick with first playing through the speakers and then connecting the old oneplus 6 cable and see if that will make it work. ne side note - don't buy the apple usb to 3.5 mm cable. It has very low volume on android (works properly on ios and windows). Tested it myself.
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This discussion is very interesting. Generally pixel 6 (and previous pixels also) do not send analogue audio signal to the usb type c port hence passive converters from type c to 3.5 mm do not work. You need active converter with integrated DAC (digital to analogue converter) in it so that the digital audio from the usb type c port is transformed to analogue signal and sent to the headphones or whatever else. Every phone though has integrated DAC in the chipset because otherwise it would not be able to drive its own speakers with analogue signal. When i tried to connect my passive DAC adapter from oneplus 7 phone i got error on the pixel 6 that cable is not compatible. It is possible if you play something through the speakers analogue signal to also be copied towards the usb type c port and this way to trick passive adapters to also work but this need to be tested. I think that i still have the passive adapter somewhere and will test these days if i find it.
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It would need to be physically wired together like that, which it is definitely not.
It would probably also need a second DAC built in, because there are only so many speakers you can drive with the built-in. That's why some phones are advertised as "dual DAC".
Got Pixel 6 usb-c to 3.5 mm one direct from Google...works great.
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Got Pixel 6 usb-c to 3.5 mm one direct from Google...works great.
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Is this for a car aux port or for earphones you use it for?