Question about Hero GSM and CDMA - Hero, G2 Touch Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
Recently i have aquired and HTC Hero.
While i was reading posts here at xda, i encountered people talking about GSM and CDMA, where i got really confused.
I've searched google to answer my questions and only i could find was Sprint version and Europian vertion, plus got more confused.
Here is the link of the Hero i have:
http://www.phonehouse.pt/DetalheProduto.aspx?pid=2054
What are the deferences about those two Hero's?
What vertion do i have?

if you put a simcard in it it is GSM, if not it is CDMA. the picture you linked is AFAIK a gms hero, not sure whether you can tell it for sure just by looking at it. GSM and CDMA are different mobile network technologies, to make it short GSM is europe CDMA is usa.

With the hero its quite easy though, the CDMA version looks different to the GSM.
But phones normally look the same.

Pretty sure you have a GSM Hero. That looks to be a European site (selling in Euros) - is it Portugal? All European Heros are GSM. The CDMA ones are for the Sprint network in the USA. The main difference is that they use different mobile phone technology. And the GSM one has a SIM card the CDMA one does not.

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This new sub forum is dedicated to CDMA versions of HTC's Touch Pro.
Over the next day or so, myself and other Mods will be rooting through the Raphael ROM Development section and moving CDMA threads here.​
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This new sub forum is dedicated to CDMA versions of HTC's Touch Pro.
Over the next day or so, myself and other Mods will be rooting through the Raphael ROM Development section and moving CDMA threads here.​
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thanks bro super thanks !!!
Hmmm... It might be a good thing to explain what a CDMA is.
(Yes, I am a bit unsure myself, though I do understand it has something to do with the frequencies that the cellphone will operate at?)
(Ah, I found it. CDMA != GSM, some extra version of the Raphael primarily meant for the North-American market, does not work in Europe... shame though)
Code Division Multiple Access) A method for transmitting simultaneous digital signals over a shared portion of the spectrum. Although used in various radio communications systems, the most widely known application of CDMA is for cellular systems that operate in the 800 MHz and 1.9 GHz PCS bands. As of 2008, there were more than 450 million CDMA cellphone users in the world, with more than half in Asia. Verizon and Sprint are CDMA carriers in the U.S., while TELUS uses CDMA in Canada. QUALCOMM is the developer of the CDMA air interface used in cellular systems.
Thanks A Million
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You for listening to US.
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thanks for the new cdma forum..
Thanks!!! This is excellent!!!
thank you so much its a pain in the ass going though all the other posts to find cdma info
Hi,
How do I know if my phone/network supports CDMA? I am in South Africa and on Vodacom (now Vodafone) network.
Thanks in advance.
canthonyza said:
Hi,
How do I know if my phone/network supports CDMA? I am in South Africa and on Vodacom (now Vodafone) network.
Thanks in advance.
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I believe that's GSM Network. Look here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_WM6.1_ROMs
Ah I see... Ok... thought that maybe if I set the band to WCDMA and I get a signal it would be an indication that my handset/network supports it.
Thanks though!
Could the GMS Raphael specific forums be changed to a GSM prefix as this CDMA sub-forum?
That could start to minise confusion -- particularly those using searches and finding themselves to links posted in a Raphael forum but it's not the Raphael that they own.
...in other model forums it's rather easy to point out to one that they are posting in a forum that does not cover their phone. Not so easy when one reponds -- but I do have a Raphael/Touch Pro.
Sure, the GSM model was out first and is more widely available, but keeping the sole Raphael name for it is only going to invite confusion. Best to be pro-active now before forums become flustered with confusing threads and posts.
WCDMA & CDMA are not the same thing WCDMA is 3rd Generation data over wireless protocol used for GSM
CDMA uses EVDO Rev1 for data
IF you have sim Card, chances are u r on GSM CDMA doesnt use sim card (unless ofcourse you are on iDEN and i dont think there is a TP for nextel
gsm 3g is based on cdma so it is some times called wcdma... and cdma carriers can have sim card like chips called ruim cards i believe u would only find this in india tho.. and iden is iden its not cdma but sprint does offer phones that can do iden and cdma at the same time..
I would prefer a GSM phone over a CDMA phone anyday because of the SIM card
celsius0010 said:
gsm 3g is based on cdma so it is some times called wcdma... and cdma carriers can have sim card like chips called ruim cards i believe u would only find this in india tho.. and iden is iden its not cdma but sprint does offer phones that can do iden and cdma at the same time..
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I would prefer a GSM phone over a CDMA phone because of the sim card.
GSM
I don't have GSM, but I'm just wondering, why is there no GSM section?
MasterOfTheXP said:
I don't have GSM, but I'm just wondering, why is there no GSM section?
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Every place else to do with the Raphael is assumed to be GSM.... Confusion is desired while all CDMA Raphael 800 discussion is ostracised to this section.
Yes, it would far more sense to actually title the Raphael ROM section as Raphael GSM ROM Development and similarly for this CDMA section.... Doesn't appear that it'll happen since the GSM model was released first and the powers that be here have declared it to be the sole deserving model of the unspecified Raphael name.
gramsey1911 said:
I would prefer a GSM phone over a CDMA phone because of the sim card.
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I prefer CDMA because when my phone gets stolen, the bastard cannot not use it anymore because the SN will be reported as stolen and the phone will be locked by my carrier.

[Q] query regarding cdma network and rooting on evo 3D

In our area , there is available EVO3D cdma for cheap rate, it has a T-mobile logo on it, but the buyer says tht he has unlocked it for reliance cdma network
question is if i root it and put a custom rom on it, will it still be unlocked at reliance or it will be locked ??
if it has t-mo branding on it, it's probably gonna be the sensation, which is not the evo 3d. Secondly, t-mo is gsm only. If I were you, I'd verify if it really is the 3d, not the sensation, but I'm sure it will be the latter (if it isn't some scam to begin with)
nexus2515 said:
In our area , there is available EVO3D cdma for cheap rate, it has a T-mobile logo on it, but the buyer says tht he has unlocked it for reliance cdma network
question is if i root it and put a custom rom on it, will it still be unlocked at reliance or it will be locked ??
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I'm fairly certain my CDMA EVO 3D will NOT ever operate on a GSM network w/o changing the radio hardware inside.
Unless the GSM version comes with both radios inside, it will be impossible for it to operate on a CDMA network. "Unlocked" is generally a GSM term as GSM devices can be unlocked and then operate on any carrier.
Where as CDMA devices have to be programmed for a specific carrier. The programming process for a CDMA device can be a bit complex for people w/o computer experience.
Hope that helps clarify! I'm sure somebody else with more knowledge on the EUR versions of the GSM EVO 3Ds can chime in from their experience.
EDIT: posted while i was replying...
spalding1028 said:
if it has t-mo branding on it, it's probably gonna be the sensation, which is not the evo 3d.
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Also very great point! Don't think there is any GSM EVO 3D version being officially sold in the US under the TMO or ATT brand (the two largest GSM companies in the US). Perhaps a foreign GSM version of the EVO 3D, once "unlocked", could operate on a US GSM carrier such as TMO or ATT, but fairly confident TMO and ATT havent ever sold a GSM EVO 3D.
As a double check, if you wanted, a quick glance at the line up of phones available on their web site should help clarify. Or if you really wanted, call their customer service departments and ask about a EVO 3D or any type of 3D device to see what they have to offer.

[Q] few questions

Hello,
Need several answers
1. How to know if EVO 3d is GSM or CDMA ? I tried to set cdma network in settings, it works (there's a signal), gsm works too...
2. When I would know what of these two my phone is, is it important to choose the correct version (cdma or gsm) whats the difference between them?
Nub questions, I know
Thanks.
Cdma-no sim card
Gsm-sim card
We're comin from a pure power source.
FUXAS said:
Hello,
Need several answers
1. How to know if EVO 3d is GSM or CDMA ? I tried to set cdma network in settings, it works (there's a signal), gsm works too...
2. When I would know what of these two my phone is, is it important to choose the correct version (cdma or gsm) whats the difference between them?
Nub questions, I know
Thanks.
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If you're on Sprint, Boost Mobile, Nextel, Cricket, or Straight Talk, then you're definitely on 1900mhz CDMA. If you're outside of the US, you're most likely on GSM. And as stated above, if you have a SIM card (not microSD, that has nothing to do with your network), then you ARE on GSM. It is also entirely possible that you SOMEHOW have GSM and CDMA radios and are on both. Although this is not very likely, because I have never heard of an Evo 3D having both.
Sent from an ICS loving Shooter via XDA Premium.
So should the GSM phone work on both radios? Because its working on both (cdma and gsm)

[Q] Evo 3D CDMA to GSM is it possible???

Hi
Is it possible to use CDMA version of EVO 3D with GSM band??? I know that there is no SIM card slot on board but except this PCB looks very similar.
Of cource firmware is different aswell, but I saw on forum that someone use ROM from CDMA version on GSM model even without changing H-boot, so porting from GSM to CDMA should work aswell??
And last thing if I will flash radio from GSM into CDMA I will permanently brick my phone or I will be able to repair it with bootloader??
Thanks for replay....
Erm... Quite simply... No. Too risky as software / hardware differences will leave you with an irrecoverable brick.
There are no drivers for GSM to CDMA bands etc.
People do change their bands with Custom Roms but im pretty sure that it isn't easy at all.
Invest in a GSM version. They have dropped severely in price.

[Q] CDMA/GSM/SIM question!

I would like to know if any of the CDMA versions of this phone (Sprint, Virgin, Alltel) have a SIM slot and if they're compatible with gsm networks. According to gsmarena, all version of the phone are compatible with GSM networks, I'm not sure how true that is. Some insight would be nice. Thanks!
They do have sim slots but I have no idea about you question
Sent from my Virgin Mobile HTC Desire 601 zaraCL cdma

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