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A little help from the cookers out there.. I've seen XIP porting and SYS porting, but what about OEM porting?
I'm not pertaining to the packages in the OEM folders, that one is easy
I'm pertaining to the files in the OEMDrivers folder. Can someone verify my observations/questions/assumptions?
- The OEMDrivers has the same file folder structure from porting XIP (i.e., has imageinfo.bin, imageinfo.txt, S001, S002, etc.) so porting it needs to have some sort of g'reloc. If that's the case, how is it done? (I'm thinking changing the directory to SYS for the meantime and do a g'reloc)
- in reverse to the above assumption you can't port OEMDrivers because it's device specific (some threads I've read this one, but I'm skeptical about this). If so, this thread is useless and don't waste time replying
You are partially right - you can't use all drivers but some of them - e.g. you can use bluetoothsetting.dll from TouchHD in Toch Pro OEM. It's not so easy - you have to check every driver step by step to avoid no boot
qsqa ia right. Also just to add, Greloc works with the .VM module inside the SYS. So renaming the OEM to SYS is not going to achieve anything
Greloc is used to realloc all the modules based on the information in your .VM module
ababrekar said:
qsqa ia right. Also just to add, Greloc works with the .VM module inside the SYS. So renaming the OEM to SYS is not going to achieve anything
Greloc is used to realloc all the modules based on the information in your .VM module
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BTW - I think that g'reloc is also doing its job in OEM - when I put new XIP module in OEM I can see that number of modules in g'realoc window is increased (but maybe I'm paranoid )
From which device do you want port OEMDrivers (I'm guessing that you're porting to TP?)
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BTW - I think that g'reloc is also doing its job in OEM - when I put new XIP module in OEM I can see that number of modules in g'realoc window is increased (but maybe I'm paranoid )
From which device do you want port OEMDrivers (I'm guessing that you're porting to TP?)
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lalala...
Yeah I'm porting to TP, just like you are Well when I've tried putting some of the OEM files (the one in the folder) in blackstone but then it's not easy as it seems primarily because I thought you need to reloc also the files, which I would know how to do.
Anyway, if that's the case then I'm not going to bother at all Still happily tweaking OEM package files over and over... btw qsqa you haven't answered my question to your ROM thread-- have you successfully ported the Facebook functionality yet?
I forgot, sorry - still fighting with 1.03
I didn't touch apps which are dedicated fro Touch HD (resolution), first of all I want to port drivers then will look for apps
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I forgot, sorry - still fighting with 1.03
I didn't touch apps which are dedicated fro Touch HD (resolution), first of all I want to port drivers then will look for apps
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It's not resolution specific but good choice on porting 20757 it's really fast even on stock!
Honestly saying - if you are looking for a stable base, 20757 is better than newer builds like 20931
this is rom for new gene ie ht8xxxxx
nothing new just port xip sys for new gene
original rom
here is kitchen only work for new gene
part1 part2
extract all file in same folder
Thank you for the same. Just for the sake of curiosity, how much RAM is available free, on startup, in this ROM?
Hey Ankit, you did it yourself? have you found out the kitchen?
After reading the original thread, i guess there are many unsolved issues with this ROM. Calculator doesn't works, calender gives problem, powerpoint gives some certificate error, No java etc. And i think this also does not include Windows Live.
So i dont think its worth an upgrade. This ROM needs some serious tweaking before i can use it. I haven't installed this ROM but i got all this conclusion from the original thread. Is anybody's experience better with this ROM?
dheerajk27 said:
Thank you for the same. Just for the sake of curiosity, how much RAM is available free, on startup, in this ROM?
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According to the author, you'll have about 29 MB. Haven't tested yet.
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Hey Ankit, you did it yourself? have you found out the kitchen?
After reading the original thread, i guess there are many unsolved issues with this ROM. Calculator doesn't works, calender gives problem, powerpoint gives some certificate error, No java etc. And i think this also does not include Windows Live.
So i dont think its worth an upgrade. This ROM needs some serious tweaking before i can use it. I haven't installed this ROM but i got all this conclusion from the original thread. Is anybody's experience better with this ROM?
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yes i did it myself
i port xip sys first then use Ramersonw's Kitchen (some modification required )
i will upload kitchen tonight so u modify it
because my exam is there i not be able to Cook rom
can u post some screen shots plzzz..if u hav any
thnx
@ankit360: I would really appreciate it buddy if you share with me the details of the process of XIP porting you gone through. I want to learn the whole process as its quiet an important information to cook a ROM successfully. After knowing all this, i would be able to create ROMs and share them with our friends here.
Its really great man! you learned the process so quickly. Hats off to you!
Hey Ankit,
I tried this ROM. Its clean and ultra fast and very little problems. I am sure if they are ironed out, this could be an ultimate ROM for Gene. i have written about the problems in my previous post. In addition to those here is another one.
I tried installing windows live on this rom too but it didn't worked. Since this is a quiet clean ROM with no Windows Live in ROM, there is no possibility of any conflict. I think the problem is related to some certificates.
I examined my original WM 6 ROM and found that All the ROMs in this forum contains all the other certificates except these two from HTC on the top of the list, see the attached files.
I think this could be the cause of all the Windows Live problems as may be since these certificates are not present, windows live is unable to communicate with the server over an encrypted ssl connection.
What do you think?
I will try to extract these out of the ROM. You try yourself too and PM me if there is any success.
can u list out all bug so i will try to fix it
Just trying out your ROM, its lightning fast!
Thanks for the ROM
60 MB free after restoration of around 300 contacts! Wow, Gr8 Word
@ankit360: OK, here is the list of bugs:
1. Calculator is not working. Reports a missing file "\windows\spbcalc_p.gif".
2. Calender not working.
3. Java runtime is not included (if you correct this error and insert a java runtime, use the latest JBed version, it is the only runtime that can run opera mini fullscreen)
4. Powerpoint shortcut not working. It needs a change in registry. If you click the shortcut it will say some certificate thing but thats not true. The shortcut points to the shortname :MSPOWERPINT. These shortnames are created in registry and the path to powerpoint exe is not correctly given there. either correcting the path in registry or making the shortcut directly point to the powerpoint executable will correct this error.
5. Small bug but there is no option to set the device lock (password when the phone is restarted)
6. No Transcriber (Not really a bug but i need it)
7. Clock canot be set to 12 hour format. it always returns to 24 hour format.
8. Search feature that comes with default windows mobile has been removed.
9. Tabs in HTC home show up even when they are removed from settings>today>htc home setting. It happens sometimes only i think.
10. Windows Live not working at all even after installing the official cab. I tried about 10 cabs from this forum. Nothing worked. It confirms that the issue is not due to conflict with older version of live on ROM coz this ROM doesn't have windows live on it.
Thats all i can think of right now. Will post more if i find some.
man i don't have time to fix this issue bcoz my exam is there
i make kitchen for this rom work only for new gene
try to fix bug and release some nice rom
happy rom cooking
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Hey ankit,
I have succeeded in porting the XIP of the default kitchen given by Ramersonw by using my original Wm 6 XIP as base. I have created a ROM based on that kitchen which i will post tomorrow as i am currently uploading both of these.
The kitchen is working perfectly for new GENE and i am 90% sure that i'll be able to port most of the ROMs using this kitchen. Will post kitchen on the Ramersonw's thread also.
that's grate news plz post only xip or changes u made is default kitchens i will not able to download whole because i don;t have enough bandwidth
Hi Ankit,
I am uploading the zip file with changes only. Here is the link for it. And dont forget to read the Readme.txt i have included in it. I am also uploading the ROM i created. Wait for the new ROM thread. Here is the address for the zip file:
http://cid-988261b694475a67.skydriv...gesOnly|_for|_NewGene|_Kitchen|_Ramersonw.zip
thanks for sharing file i will test it
i want to know is ur xip porting procedure is work on different gene rom ?
my xip port procedure work on only this rom
My XIP will work on any ROM which has the same version of WM 6.1. Actually buddy, as you might already know, what happens is that XIP contains a portion of the main files of the WIndows Mobile operating system which are executed without loading into main ram. That is why this part is called XIP (eXecute In Place). So These files have to be the exact same version as the rest of the OS. My XIP is from CE OS 5.2.20931 (Build 20931.1.5.0) so all the ROMs that use this version of WM 6.1 can use this XIP as base.
And this is true for your ROM too. You can use the XIP with any ROM with same version and build no.
I hope i have made myself clear but feel free to ask more.
thanks for info man i really don't known this
Sorry for bumping this.
I have installed this ROM, And I really liked this. It has fastest responce times, and the most Available RAM, from all the ROM's for Gene(More than 25% using even after 2 Hrs of use.)
So Ankit or Sumit, if you have time, will you please modify this rom (I still need to learn cooking.)
Download Java - JBed
Attached the spbcalc_p.gif. Placing it in windows dir, works.
Thanks
Sumit
brother Sumit / Ankit: Please cook and release for Old Gene also.
Hi just wondered if there where any new downloads to get for my NIKE. These are my settings at the moment.
Rom Version - 2.09.721.2 WWE (I know there is a 2.12.707.2 but can't locate it )
Radio Version - 1.71.09.01
Protocol Version - 25.75.40.02.eMoH
OS Version - CE 5.2.20765 (Build 20765.1.4.4) - tried 21014 and 21109 but these have bluetooth issues.
If anyone can post the link for any downloads that would be great.
Thanks
DT
Currently cooking with IOLITE 20765 SYS and ROM and IOLITE OEM 5.50
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Hi just wondered if there where any new downloads to get for my NIKE. These are my settings at the moment.
Rom Version - 2.09.721.2 WWE (I know there is a 2.12.707.2 but can't locate it )
Radio Version - 1.71.09.01
Protocol Version - 25.75.40.02.eMoH
OS Version - CE 5.2.20765 (Build 20765.1.4.4) - tried 21014 and 21109 but these have bluetooth issues.
If anyone can post the link for any downloads that would be great.
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In the past, we usually wait until some kind soul, namely jerpelea, has ported the ROMs over completely.
There is a new release, but it is not fully ported yet, and some work is required:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=491470
My test build looks promising, but it does swell the ROM significantly.
rling said:
In the past, we usually wait until some kind soul, namely jerpelea, has ported the ROMs over completely.
There is a new release, but it is not fully ported yet, and some work is required:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=491470
My test build looks promising, but it does swell the ROM significantly.
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When you say some work - I assume you mean extracting the nb files and converting that to the SYS and OEM folders?
Sorry if it sounds like a dumb question, still very new to the ROM thing.
Am I also right in saying that the XIP (ROM) can only be a Niki one, but the SYS and OEM folders can be more generic (QVGA of course)? SYS is the actual WM6.1 OS and OEM is additional Apps or amy I way off on a tangent ?
thanks for all your help rling - you have been a of great assistance to a cooking noob
DT
Okay have grabbed the XIP and SYS 21032 from the link you gave me rling - thanks.
I have worked through the tutorial - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438676
The only thing that confuses me a little is the maps.txt files - I couldn't see any errors indicated by !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So am I safe to say that it should be a go for cooking? I have attached the final map.txt file.
I also noticed that the SYS dierectory doesn't have a .VM folder like the older ones I have used - did I miss a step somewhere?
Thanks
DT
d_train said:
When you say some work - I assume you mean extracting the nb files and converting that to the SYS and OEM folders?
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That's the easy part.
Am I also right in saying that the XIP (ROM) can only be a Niki one, but the SYS
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Generally yes. However, sometimes, if the XIP and SYS are mismatched, you could end up with some unexpected problems, eg bluetooth, camera, and other hardware failures.
Make sure you have the .rom and .vm folder correct in the SYS folder before cooking, or the ROM will hang at bootup.
rling
I can't find a .VM folder with the 21032 SYS I downloaded - have I missed something?
DT
If I remember, just use your original .VM and .ROM SYS folders if you want to port a SYS...
That was the bad thing with jerpelea : he did everything for us so we didn't have to use our brains anymore to cook .
For OEMs, you can use any QVGA package you find in the ROM you're trying to port, but keep the Nike OEMDriver folder if you want to be sure.
For the XIP porting, I never did it by myself since hexa adresses are not my cup of tea... Maybe someone will do this hard job for us...
Okay I used XipporterEX 1.2.R31 to automatically port the xip. Just a question, in the sys folder (under myTools in the Xipporter directory) there is now a .ROM and .VM and a dump folder. Is this the .VM folder I need and does the contents of the dump folder go into the ROM\XIP folder of the kitchen?
Hope all this makes sense
Thanks
DT
rling said:
Make sure you have the .rom and .vm folder correct in the SYS folder before cooking, or the ROM will hang at bootup.
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Is this where the hex editing comes into play because I can't actually find how to create the .VM and .ROM folders and their files.
I guess my porting skills are poorly lacking
Can a porting GURU please port 21028 and 21032 to NIKI PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
Or can a Guru take me under their wing and teach me the black art of porting
Might have to ask either BlackDragon or jerpelea nicely. These are the only two that I know of that have released XIP/SYS ports for the Nike in the Kitchen thread.
Since jerpelea and Blackdragon have gone fo new devices, we should learn XIP porting by ourselves if we want to make our Nikes better in the future...
I'm going to try to port 21032 XIP with XIPAddrTool I think, that's the only tool I know about it...
May the spirits of our cooking gurus protect me
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May the spirits of our cooking gurus protect me
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Good luck my friend, hopefully you can do a better job than me.
May the cooking spirits be favourable to you
DT
Antubis said:
Since jerpelea and Blackdragon have gone fo new devices, we should learn XIP porting by ourselves if we want to make our Nikes better in the future...
I'm going to try to port 21032 XIP with XIPAddrTool I think, that's the only tool I know about it...
May the spirits of our cooking gurus protect me
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Good luck.
Here's a link of more ROMs (Diamond) including 21189:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467460
d_train said:
...hopefully you can do a better job than me...
DT
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I don't think so
When I try XipportEx, the ported XIP doesn't boot (maybe that's because of the fact he puts 3 of the XIP modules into an OEM package ?)
When I want to use XipAddrTool, I've got a problem with Xipport : he dumps the xip.bin, but I get an exception when I want to make XIP packages... Maybe I did something wrong with my Vista, in the past I managed to obtain it easily...
[edit] : I just think I may launch it using admin privilege that afternoon... ^^'
Okay I got the ROM 21028 (and phone) to boot.
I used XIPporter to create the os.nb.payload file - what I could never work out (and can't find the answer to) is what in the world goes into the XIP folder. I found someone had placed a link to download the ROM and SYS for the Topaz (ver 21028) so I downloaded it and used the XIP folder from it and it worked. So you could say I sort of cheated - so if anyone can enlighten me as to what goes in the XIP folder for a ROM and where the heck I get the files from it would be greatly appreciated.
As far as the SYS goes - I also used it successfully - well it booted okay. But the customisations never ran and you can't change the today theme, even though they are there, selecting them changes nothing. Can someone guide me as to what I need to look for to get this working? I never got to test too much else at this stage - needed my phone working okay for work tomorrow, so had to flash back to a know working ROM - hope to update soon.
How do you take a screen capture image of your phone's screen so I can show some pictures of the tests??
Regards
DT
I have looked at the Calc from 21028 and I actually don't mind it, however it appears it is missing a font or something as the menus and title are boxes and not text...anyone offer any advice?
DT
d_train said:
I have looked at the Calc from 21028 and I actually don't mind it, however it appears it is missing a font or something as the menus and title are boxes and not text...anyone offer any advice?
DT
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That would be missing the language pack. There is one ported for Hermes, but it is all in Chinese!
See how I go this week with time. Might just dip my toes into porting the ROM from scratch.
d_train said:
How do you take a screen capture image of your phone's screen so I can show some pictures of the tests??
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There's a free program called SPB screenshot. Do a google. It's great. Can do single or multiple shots. Saves all the pics in My Documents folder for transfer to PC when you connect.
Have ported the 21032 XIP, and it appears to work in place of the 21014 in my ROM
SYS porting not working - locks up during boot at the red lettering page...
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Have ported the 21032 XIP, and it appears to work in place of the 21014 in my ROM
SYS porting not working - locks up during boot at the red lettering page...
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fantastic - I got mine booting, but the customisations never ran - so the install was only half done - couldn't change the timezone (kept resetting) and minor glitches
Can you upload your ROM? Maybe I can test it with my SYS.
Where did you get the files from for the XIP directory? I can't find any info as to where these come from - or are they the same for all ROMs (like the .ROM and .VM within the SYS)
DT
So, after some experiences with new Da_G kitchen I decided to publish my kitchen which will able you to cook a ROM in PROven-style but 100% customizable by you
1. What's in?
ervius 5.1 visual kitchen
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20764 build (from original HTC WM6.1 ROM)
21210 build (from Da_G kitchen)
21501 build (ported by me from files shared by Conflipper)
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0409 WWE localisation
0415 PLK localisation
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OEM packages which I'm using in PROven ROMs, converted by me to EXT layout)
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sample configurations for WWE and PLK ROMs to get you familiar with new kitchen
2. Greetings
I want to thank all people around this forum which are sharing their knowledge with me, especially: Da_G, ervius, arrupenthal, Conflipper, At0mang ...
3. User Manual
First create a directory called "PROven kitchen" and download all files into it (I decided to divide kitchen into smallest parts to avoid donwloading everything when small upgrades will come), unpack. After that you will have:
EXT directory
OEM directory
RELEASE_Raphael directory
ROM directory
SYS directory
Tools directory
Erviuskitchen.exe file
Now click on "Erviuskitchen.exe" file and you'll see main window of kitchen.
Rest of tutorial I will base on example: let's assume that you want to build WM6.5 ROM with English interface (0409) and based on 21501 build and 21501 XIP. To do this just follow next steps:
- choose RAPHAEL from DEVICE window (it's already displayed but you have to choose it once again to start process)
- choose 0409 from Language window
- choose 21501 from XIP Build window
- choose 2501 from SYS Build window
After that you'll see in main window list of packages which can be included/excluded in/from your ROM
First column is saying if package is included or not - by default all packages are marked to be inlcuded into ROM. You can change status bo double click on the package name.
Package names which begin with digit mean that you can choose only one from this category. Example - in "SHARED-devices: Multimedia folder" you can see:
1a.JbedJava_0_0_20081121_2_1
1b.JBlendJava_0_0_20080507_1_1
so you can choose your favourite version...
When you'll finish package choosing just simply click on "Create ROM" button to start cooking. After appr 10 min you'll see "DONE" message in bottom window - now just go to RELEASE_Raphael directory and flash new ROM, v'oila
!!!Important remark!!! if you are cooking WM6.5 ROM for Raphael, don't forget to check also "Real WM 6.5 AKU" option, otherwise your cooked ROM will not boot !!!
!!!Important remark #2!!! This is a kitchen - like in normal kitchen, when you prepare a meal with apples and milk for sure you can't feel comfortable after that and most probably you'll go in "toilet-loop". The same is in this kitchen - I can't assure that every mix of packages will make your device bootable !!!
I attached also two example configuration (one for PLK, one for WWE) to show IMHO optimal packages configuration - to use it just click on "Load ROM" button and choose desired conf.
4. To do
- add HTC Diamond support
- add more languages
5. Downloads
PROven kitchen directory on 4Shared - download all files HERE
Enjoy
reserved...
another reserved ...
there will be Rodhium touchflo integrated? I like it. multilinguage is great idea. Thanks anyway.
PROven kitchen is online - enjoy
biranouran said:
there will be Rodhium touchflo integrated? I like it. multilinguage is great idea. Thanks anyway.
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Yes, you can build ROM with Rhodium Manila in
great work!
Da_G said:
great work!
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Honestly saying, you inspired me to share with other users all great features of visual kitchen
I must say, that right now cooking even for other devices or languages is much more easier (Diamond part is on the way).
Great work, qsqa!
I'm try to build my own ROM 21501 with new kitchen from DaG and it don't work (previous kitchen works perfectly! ). Downloading your kitchen and try... Thanks for great instruction in 1st post, it's BIG work to write it too.
And a small question, from what radio, rilphone.dll is used in this kitchen? (sorry for my bad english)
Wow, the instructions make this look really easy. Almost as if I could do it myself. Guess we will see about that.
Thanks for this.
One question, when I extracted SYS.Part2.rar, I was asked to overwite some files. I had already extracted SYS.Part1.rar
Were some of the files included in both compresed files?
Igoran said:
Great work, qsqa!
I'm try to build my own ROM 21501 with new kitchen from DaG and it don't work (previous kitchen works perfectly! ). Downloading your kitchen and try... Thanks for great instruction in 1st post, it's BIG work to write it too.
And a small question, from what radio, rilphone.dll is used in this kitchen? (sorry for my bad english)
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rilphone.dll is from official HTC 5.05 ROM
rgb-rgb said:
Wow, the instructions make this look really easy. Almost as if I could do it myself. Guess we will see about that.
Thanks for this.
One question, when I extracted SYS.Part2.rar, I was asked to overwite some files. I had already extracted SYS.Part1.rar
Were some of the files included in both compresed files?
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It should be not like that - it is multi part archive, it willl automatically extract SYS.Part1.rar and then SYS.Part2.rar
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It should be not like that - it is multi part archive, it willl automatically extract SYS.Part1.rar and then SYS.Part2.rar
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Okay, thanks. I did not need to extract the Part2, because it was done automatically when I extracted Part1. Makes sense now. New to using .rar files.
rgb-rgb said:
Okay, thanks. I did not need to extract the Part2, because it was done automatically when I extracted Part1. Makes sense now. New to using .rar files.
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Good luck with cooking
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Good luck with cooking
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Thanks, I think I will start out with the Greek cuisine cooking to begin with, because it's all Greek to me!
Just looking through some of the files.
Is MSVC included in here somewhere?
rgb-rgb said:
Thanks, I think I will start out with the Greek cuisine cooking to begin with, because it's all Greek to me!
Just looking through some of the files.
Is MSVC included in here somewhere?
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Yes, in Phone section
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Yes, in Phone section
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Raphael_VoiceCommand I take it then?
Thanks man, might give this one a try too. Tried the rest now see which is the best They're all great. Thanks to the other cooks too. You have inspired me to make my own ROMs. See what I have done in my signature.
I found that driver version is 5.00, should be 5.08 right?
Double DIR's
Just a quickie, if you extract the RAR's as is they end up in eg: OEM\OEM and the kitchen comes up with errors that it can't find everything it's looking for.
Now iv'e got it working can't wait to try it.
Bugger!!!!!
Looks so easy, chose optional items, created and flashed, so far so good. poutlook.exe error, no calendar or contacts?? Manila.exe won't run, keeps trying to load. Also how can I edit welcomehead to get rid of 6.1??? No 6.5 menu after turning off Manila.
I like it
Good job on the kitchen qsqa. I was able to cook together touchflo and wm6.5, with Da-G's 21500 version of his kitchen I could never get it to work.
Hi.
Forgive me I asked here but it seems to be nowhere explained, maybe I was not able to find.
I try to utilize leeston2379 suggestions about cooking in His tutorial.
Could anybody explain me why newly created ROM from original firmware ( in my case Malezya ROM ) after dumping and building without any changes , differs significantly from original in size.
It is about 20-30MB lesser than original.
I dumped this newly created ROM. It seems to have all packages like original ROM but for example .dsm files are significantly lesser.
Could anybody confirm that such created ROM ( even without any changes ) can be safely loaded to tg01 and what exactly has been changed and why ?
I count on serious and comprehensive explanation.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Hi.
Forgive me I asked here but it seems to be nowhere explained, maybe I was not able to find.
I try to utilize leeston2379 suggestions about cooking in His tutorial.
Could anybody explain me why newly created ROM from original firmware ( in my case Malezya ROM ) after dumping and building without any changes , differs significantly from original in size.
It is about 20-30MB lesser than original.
I dumped this newly created ROM. It seems to have all packages like original ROM but for example .dsm files are significantly lesser.
Could anybody confirm that such created ROM ( even without any changes ) can be safely loaded to tg01 and what exactly has been changed and why ?
I count on serious and comprehensive explanation.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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hi, sorry for my poor english, but i will help you
when you dump a ROM, that has orginal 200 MB and you building a new ROM without any changes, then must your cooked ROM to have also 200 MB. ech oem package folder has one .dsm file. pls tell me: wich kitchen and wich ROM.
regards, miro
mirolg said:
hi, sorry for my poor english, but i will help you
when you dump a ROM, that has orginal 200 MB and you building a new ROM without any changes, then must your cooked ROM to have also 200 MB. ech oem package folder has one .dsm file. pls tell me: wich kitchen and wich ROM.
regards, miro
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Thanks miro.
1) Kitchen suggested in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804529 and with direct link here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=416649&d=1286711727
2) I did two steps from this kitchen as leeston2379 suggested :
a) "1. dump.bat"
b) "2. build no XIP port_no auto.bat"
The same result ( I mean new ROM lesser than original ) I got when in step b)
I run "2. build.bat" instead of "2. build no XIP port_no auto.bat"
3) Original ROM I took for experiments is Malezya ROM from link :
http://www.toshiba.co.jp/product/etsg/cmt/english/asian/tg01/exe/TG01WP-WM6.5-Malaysia.exe
Currently I use this rom and I wanna to see what cooking is and in first step to cook ... nothing so dump and build without any changes.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
one question by side O i have noticed, you thank after a helpful post, but not with the thank button. why? is not why i like you thank- point- i´m wondering only- and you not the only.
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Thanks miro.
1) Kitchen suggested in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804529 and with direct link here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=416649&d=1286711727
2) I did two steps from this kitchen as leeston2379 suggested :
a) "1. dump.bat"
b) "2. build no XIP port_no auto.bat"
The same result ( I mean new ROM lesser than original ) I got when in step b)
I run "2. build.bat" instead of "2. build no XIP port_no auto.bat"
3) Original ROM I took for experiments is Malezya ROM from link :
http://www.toshiba.co.jp/product/etsg/cmt/english/asian/tg01/exe/TG01WP-WM6.5-Malaysia.exe
Currently I use this rom and I wanna to see what cooking is and in first step to cook ... nothing so dump and build without any changes.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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ok, this kitche i use mostly too.
the result in MB is the same if "2. build no XIP port_no auto.bat" or " 2. build.bat"
different is: 2. build no XIP port_no auto.bat- no new xip building- less time
i don´t know what is wrong- but is wrong and i think this ROM will brick your tg01
mirolg said:
one question by side O i have noticed, you danken after a hilfreiche post, but not with the thank button. why?
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hehe, it was so called "thanks in advance" . If You give me answers to my questions I will press "thanks" button
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fxdjacentyfxd
mirolg said:
ok, this kitche i use mostly too.
the result in MB is the same if "2. build no XIP port_no auto.bat" or " 2. build.bat"
different is: 2. build no XIP port_no auto.bat- no new xip building- less time
i don´t know what is wrong- but is wrong and i think this ROM will brick your tg01
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It's too bad So I will try the same not with original rom but for example with clean Mangasora rom and will see results.
Anyway is there any other available kitchen/way to use original rom for cooking not special prepared rom like Mangasora rom ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
hehe, it was so called "thanks in advance" . If You give me answers to my questions I will press "thanks" button
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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no, no problem- but is not the first time. i think you are very critical
but
fxdjacentyfxd said:
It's too bad So I will try the same not with original rom but for example with clean Mangasora rom and will see results.
Anyway is there any other available kitchen/way to use original rom for cooking not special prepared rom like Mangasora rom ?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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the easyst kitchen is that you use. ffboy kitchen is not so easy to understand.
BUT i tell you: no matter ROM or custom ROM- that what you dump out must, when no changes, the same Value in MB and kB!
if you like- one link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564130
mirolg said:
BUT i tell you: no matter ROM or custom ROM- that what you dump out must, when no changes, the same Value in MB and kB!
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Explain me one thing yet. I noticed that even retrieving payload from .tsw and merging it again with the same .tsw to get "new" .tsw gives ROM that is not binary equal to original. Yes, it has the same size but comparing both roms in any editor one can see a lot of similar looking places that has been changed. Could You xplain it to me ?
I tested original ROMs again. English Orange ROM and Malezya. Both after cooking nothing gives .tsw files that differs in size to their originals. Maybe You could ask Your colegues cookers about it ? Is this situation exception for original roms and if not what has to be done additionally after dumping , so that new .tsw files have the same size as their originals. I would really prefer to work on original roms
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fxdjacentyfxd
.. your thread is open for all cooks, to answer you: D
all my knowledge i have from this "best" forum site and his members!
If someone begins to cook, he must be prepared and know that it can so often give problems and that the tg01 brick or not start. ShortPin and tg01 downloader-procedure i must make multiple times (i love and have also afraid for my tg01)
BUT this a way to learn everything and to find a solution.
wish you all succes
miro
mirolg said:
.. your thread is open for all cooks, to answer you: D
all my knowledge i have from this "best" forum site and his members!
If someone begins to cook, he must be prepared and know that it can so often give problems and that the tg01 brick or not start. ShortPin and tg01 downloader-procedure i must make multiple times (i love and have also afraid for my tg01)
BUT this a way to learn everything and to find a solution.
wish you all succes
miro
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Maybe someone answer who knows. Anyway thanks for help.
What I found interesting. Such newly created rom form original rom has as You know lesser length. Dumping it again and building new rom without changes, gives at last what we want - new rom size has the same size as original ( not virgin one but this cooked without changes ).
Maybe it is nothing terrible that first rom created from original rom is lesser and as a matter of fact we should take for cooking not original rom but this created from it without changes ? . Maybe original rom has any redudant information ( I mentioned You , .dsm file were shortened after cooking and in my oppinion they are now similar to thouse I can typically see in Novembre or Mangasora roms ).
On the other hand, I have never found anywhere yet, original rom should be treated with any special atention during dumping and cooking.
I know I can use short pin method but matter must be worthy to sacrifice tg01. Currently problem seems to be known for some cookers ( some ot them had to use original rom as a base of cooking ) so I will wait.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
I know I can use short pin method but matter must be worthy to sacrifice tg01.
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I am dumping the Malaysia ROM now, I will rebuild and flash to my test device regardless of size difference and let you know the result. Give me a few hours though as i am very busy and doing this in 5 minute gaps when I a have chance.
I have dumped the ROM twice and found that "Missing Manifests" are reported.
First time there were 3 missing, 2nd time 5 missing. The manifests are .dsm files so I am assuming that if the .dsm is missing from a package it is no longer a package and won't be included in the ROM by BuildOS causing the size difference. The first dump also failed to separate the OEM and SYS packages but succeeded the second time
I have rebuilt and flashed the ROM and it appears to work, i do not have time to test it fully but it does boot and run with SPB Mobile Shell, HOWEVER as the two dumps had different .dsm files missing it may be something more important missing the next time causing a real brick.
This is purely speculation but I believe this particular ROM does not like to be dumped and you will have to use a different base ROM. I am happy for you to use mine but I would recommend one of Miros clean ROMs as a base.
Hope this is helpful
Attached is a photo of the output from the .bat file showing the missing .dsm files (this is from the second dump).
... As already mentioned: Each folder (if any OEM packages) need a .dsm file. Without it, the package can not be cooked. Ie = if at the end (finished ROM) that those. dsm missing, is missing the complete pakage = Created ROM has less RAM.
if you has nothing doing- but a .dsm file is missing, then is something wrong
what? i don´t know
leeston2379 said:
I am dumping the Malaysia ROM now, I will rebuild and flash to my test device regardless of size difference and let you know the result. Give me a few hours though as i am very busy and doing this in 5 minute gaps when I a have chance.
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You are great ! I am waiting for results.
leeston2379 said:
I have dumped the ROM twice and found that "Missing Manifests" are reported.
First time there were 3 missing, 2nd time 5 missing. The manifests are .dsm files so i am assuming that if the .dsm is missing from a package it is no longer a package and won't be included in the ROM by BuildOS causing the size difference.
This is purely speculation but I believe this particular ROM does not like to be dumped and you will have to use a different base rom.
I am rebuilding the ROM now and will flash it soon.
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Maybe You are right but I hope You are not
So Your test will show the truth. I did not pay attention on this "Missing manifest" assuming that any errors stop dumping/building.
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
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leeston2379 said:
I have dumped the ROM twice and found that "Missing Manifests" are reported.
First time there were 3 missing, 2nd time 5 missing. The manifests are .dsm files so I am assuming that if the .dsm is missing from a package it is no longer a package and won't be included in the ROM by BuildOS causing the size difference. The first dump also failed to separate the OEM and SYS packages but succeeded the second time
I have rebuilt and flashed the ROM and it appears to work, i do not have time to test it fully but it does boot and run with SPB Mobile Shell, HOWEVER as the two dumps had different .dsm files missing it may be something more important missing the next time causing a real brick.
This is purely speculation but I believe this particular ROM does not like to be dumped and you will have to use a different base ROM. I am happy for you to use mine but I would recommend one of Miros clean ROMs as a base.
Hope this is helpful
Attached is a photo of the output from the .bat file showing the missing .dsm files (this is from the second dump).
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Thanks a lot for Your test. I have this manifest warning too doing dump process to text file. I have found somwhere in internet that some of this .dsm are concerned with XIP . Here if You wanna to see Nokser's thread not concerned with tg01 but mentioning some of the manifest files :
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...fd3-bd127a05e4de.dsm&cd=1&hl=pl&ct=clnk&gl=pl
Anyway, could You explain me once again what build is running without brick ?
You simply did dump and build on malezya rom and took created .tsw or You dumped created rom again and built again and took this double built rom?
Regards
fxdjacentyfxd
fxdjacentyfxd said:
Anyway, could You explain me once again what build is running without brick ?
You simply did dump and build on malezya rom and took created .tsw or You dumped created rom again and built again and took this double built rom?
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fxdjacentyfxd
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I dumped the original ROM rebuilt it then flashed it. I did not double build.
Just dumped the rebuilt ROM and no errors occurred. It may be worth dumping the Malaysian ROM removing the packages you require then adding them to the Orange UK ROM as this dumps OK and both ROMs are in English.
The build of the Malaysian ROM is CE OS 5.2.21840 (Build 21840.5.0.60), just for reference.
leeston2379 said:
I dumped the original ROM rebuilt it then flashed it. I did not double build.
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I am not familiar with the matter so far but I did simple test as in Nokser's thread about dumping XIP. I took xip.bin created after dumping malezya rom and dumped it via XipPort.exe. All "not available" manifest files are present so in my oppinion it should be possible to avoid this "terrible" warnings and maybe any new dump script is required for such original rom. This time it is my speculation
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fxdjacentyfxd
leeston2379 said:
I dumped the original ROM rebuilt it then flashed it. I did not double build.
Just dumped the rebuilt ROM and no errors occurred. It may be worth dumping the Malaysian ROM removing the packages you require then adding them to the Orange UK ROM as this dumps OK and both ROMs are in English.
The build of the Malaysian ROM is CE OS 5.2.21840 (Build 21840.5.0.60), just for reference.
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Hmmm, really ? I dumped English Orange ROM too. I do not remember whether mentioned warnings appeared but I am sure created rom was lesser than original rom like with Malezya rom.
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fxdjacentyfxd