I have two 230V to USB-chargers from Sony Ericsson and they charge my X10 like they should. But when I use Apples charger for the iPhone (with SE's USB-cable, of course) it won't charge the phone at all. I've tried another charger but to no avail. And my car charger won't work either.
So, my question is: Why doesn't it work? It worked perfectly with my X1.
How Many mA has the original Charger and how many the others?
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How Many mA has the original Charger and how many the others?
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The original charger has 700mA output and the iPhone charger has 1000mA output. So there SHOULDN'T be a problem. But it doesn't work at all.
It's not mAh you should be looking at, that's irrelevant. What's more interesting is what voltage it is. Maximum allowed as per the microUSB standard is 5V. So the Nokia charger i have around(5v/1200mAh) charges the X10 just fine And it's alot faster than the 700mAh SE charger of course - BUT - it gets hotter of course
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It's not mAh you should be looking at, that's irrelevant. What's more interesting is what voltage it is. Maximum allowed as per the microUSB standard is 5V. So the Nokia charger i have around(5v/1200mAh) charges the X10 just fine And it's alot faster than the 700mAh SE charger of course - BUT - it gets hotter of course
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Well yeah, but the iPhone carger is rated at 5V 1A.
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Well yeah, but the iPhone carger is rated at 5V 1A.
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Then Apple, being Apple, have made it non-complaint. The Nokia chargers we have here at the office(micro USB) all work just fine.
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Then Apple, being Apple, have made it non-complaint. The Nokia chargers we have here at the office(micro USB) all work just fine.
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Weird. Because it works with my X1.
I thought usb2 specified 500ma (@5v) tops per port? didnt think you where allowed to pull more! guessing a 1000ma charger could be split to charge several devices at once?
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I thought usb2 specified 500ma (@5v) tops per port? didnt think you where allowed to pull more! guessing a 1000ma charger could be split to charge several devices at once?
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Possibly. But I think the chargers are rated higher for faster charging.
The ports on the PC are rated 5V/500mAh - but the chargers can be higher for faster charging as Flamso pointed out.
Hmm that must mean that the phones are setup to allow them to pull more current otherwise it wouldnt make a diffence, makes sense though and i'm guessing thats why its been taking me a long while to charge the thing (I've only been plugging it into my comp at home and my lappy at work!), might have to plug the charger in and see how it fairs from that.
I would guess then that it makes the distinction by the presence of the data lines then? Ie if no data lines then it must be a charger so pull more power? Forgive my ignorance of electronics if this is wrong, it has been a long while since I covered this stuff at school!
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Hmm that must mean that the phones are setup to allow them to pull more current otherwise it wouldnt make a diffence, makes sense though and i'm guessing thats why its been taking me a long while to charge the thing (I've only been plugging it into my comp at home and my lappy at work!), might have to plug the charger in and see how it fairs from that.
I would guess then that it makes the distinction by the presence of the data lines then? Ie if no data lines then it must be a charger so pull more power? Forgive my ignorance of electronics if this is wrong, it has been a long while since I covered this stuff at school!
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How it exactly works i don't know, but can figure it out by asking a few of the electrical engineers that I know - but yes the phones are setup to draw more current from chargers vs. laptops(as per the specifications).
You will however not notice a huge improvement of charging time using the supplied SE charger as it only delivers 700mAh - I did notice a huge improvement(of course!) using the 1200mAh Nokia charger I had.
I might well have to invest in one of those and upgrade my desk (i'm very geeky and have built in trunking with ports for everything in my desk at home!)
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Hmm that must mean that the phones are setup to allow them to pull more current otherwise it wouldnt make a diffence, makes sense though and i'm guessing thats why its been taking me a long while to charge the thing (I've only been plugging it into my comp at home and my lappy at work!), might have to plug the charger in and see how it fairs from that.
I would guess then that it makes the distinction by the presence of the data lines then? Ie if no data lines then it must be a charger so pull more power? Forgive my ignorance of electronics if this is wrong, it has been a long while since I covered this stuff at school!
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I'm more interested in the distinction the phone makes for different kind of chargers. I was told that the LG micro USB-charger works with the X10 and it has 750mA. I just don't understand why it has to be a certain specification on the charger for the phone to accept charging. Other phones with similar hardware works with most chargers!
The Iphone charger was design in a way that it needed all 4 pins(1(+), D+, D-, 4(-)) to charge, whereas the normal phone will only need 2 pins(1 and 4). So my guess is that when we plug in our X10 it doesn't telly with the charger because of the use of the D+ and D- pin. Thus it won't respond.
Have anyone try using X10 charger to charge an iphone? I bet it won't work too.
I am No expert, just guessing.
You need to make a cable, short the pins 2,3 "Data + / -"
Most of the smartphone will detect the data signal, if no signal it's wont charge
I make a cable and use with Sanyo 5000Mah portable USB charger to charge my X1 and X10
Warning: make the cable is your own risk!!!!!!
USB pins assignment
VCC+, Data - , Data + , GND
Normally the color order is Red, White, Green, Black
Thanks~
Oh. That explains much! Not that it matters though, I already have two SE-chargers I was just curious! Have to buy more micro USB-cords though!
i'm sure it's software related.
all the new generation devices needed new universal chargers.
all one year old chargers were obsolete when the new iPhone, iPod touch, nexus1 or milestone appeard.
now all the next generation of universal chargers won't work with the X10. (it's a sony !)
tested lots of them and the samsung spica charger was the only one that works with the X10. (no milestone-charger and forget about all artwizz.)
fyi the charger for the blackberry curve works fine with my x10. charges just as quick, or at least it wasn't noticably slower/quicker.
Has anyone been able to get their X10 to charge with any chargers apart from the supplied one, a Nokia one or using USB on a computer?
I have tried an iPod charger, a Belkin universal charger, a blackberry charger, an HTC charger and a blackberry in car charger but nothing works.
Is there a setting on the phone that I'm missing?
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Anyone else having them?
It's at 25%... plugged it in. It wouldn't charge. I left it there for a while and it got to 26%... now it's stopped charging. Already checked the wall charger. I'm at work and I'm using one of the Galaxy Tab chargers. It shouldn't make a difference.
I would check the cord. For whatever reason my HP touchpads original cord wouldn't charge reliably, I change my cord out with my LG thrill and the HP cord will reliably charge my thrill and my thrills cord will reliably charge my touchpad, I can't really make sense of it, but that's how it worked for me. But I would suggest using the hp's wall plug in at all times due to the fact that it uses the correct voltage to charge and another's could destroy your battery.
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I leave here in a couple hours. I'll try it out. Thanks for the idea.
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I would check the cord. For whatever reason my HP touchpads original cord wouldn't charge reliably, I change my cord out with my LG thrill and the HP cord will reliably charge my thrill and my thrills cord will reliably charge my touchpad, I can't really make sense of it, but that's how it worked for me. But I would suggest using the hp's wall plug in at all times due to the fact that it uses the correct voltage to charge and another's could destroy your battery.
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I second this. I had to replace my cord after a while as well. I find that this happens over time with all micro-USB connectors, they just sort of lose their ability to snugly connect / the contacts wear out... Maybe it's just because I use my devices while tethered to the power strip sometimes, and the connector wiggles around.
Any charger that is not at least rated at 2mA and is correctly wired internaly will not give optimum charging current.
Stick to the HP original chargers or one that has been properly modded to do the job.
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I leave here in a couple hours. I'll try it out. Thanks for the idea.
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You're welcome, let us know how it turns out for you.
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HP replaced my cord with second day delivery :0
I was very impressed.
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Any charger that is not at least rated at 2mA and is correctly wired internaly will not give optimum charging current.
Stick to the HP original chargers or one that has been properly modded to do the job.
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You want 2000mA, or 2A. I don't know the specs on the galaxy tab charger but I know the voltage is different too. The TouchPad is 5.3v, most chargers are 5v, and I have read on other forums that the voltage is more likely to be the issue, even is the charger you are using puts out enough amperage.
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You want 2000mA, or 2A. I don't know the specs on the galaxy tab charger but I know the voltage is different too. The TouchPad is 5.3v, most chargers are 5v, and I have read on other forums that the voltage is more likely to be the issue, even is the charger you are using puts out enough amperage.
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My mistake 2mA should have read 2A!
It's unlikely that any power supply will be exactly the stated voltage due to component tolerances, but I doubt that a .3v variance will make any difference. I've read what others have said, but never experienced any probs in reality.
All ratings are usually nominal values and set within tolerances. Under voltage would be a bigger negative factor.
When ever I drive, I have my phone hooked up to my Escort Red Line radar detector and my car's stereo via bluetooth (both). In order for me to use the radar detector effective, I need to have GPS and Blueooth enabled. This is a HUGE SUPER OMG battery drainer for my amaze. 20 minutes drive kills about 35% of the phone's power. My radar detector offers a slot to charge my phone BUT it still drains, not enough juice flowing in. Someone said it is because it's probably a .5amp.
So I am running a extension from the 12v lighter that's in the trunk to the front of my car. Amazon has a generic 2.1amp for 3 bucks.
http://www.amazon.com/Premium-Heavy...121&sr=8-1&keywords=htc+amaze+car+charger+amp
But on ebay, I found the original HTC car charger for 15 bucks which is a 1amp.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-Amaze-4...918506?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item27c867022a
What do you guys recommend? My logic says go for the 2.1amp, the phone will draw as much as it needs from it.
The 1amp.
Anything higher you'll damage the phone or the battery.
A wall plug power supply or a usb supply is 5.0v/1amp.
The 2.1 amp is probably 1 amp per port. Although it does not seem to specify.
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What do you guys recommend? My logic says go for the 2.1amp, the phone will draw as much as it needs from it.
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The 1amp.
Anything higher you'll damage the phone or the battery.
A wall plug power supply or a usb supply is 5.0v/1amp.
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That means a higher capacity battery (more current NOT MORE VOLTAGE) will damage the phone?!!!!
Totally wrong!
A higher current will not damage the phone. A higher voltage will do it!
Please do not mix the current with voltage!
Voltage is same 5 Volts (±5%) for these “USB like” applications (1A or 2.1A power supply our case )They use USB socket/connector but usually only pin 1 and 4 (+ and-)
Regular computer USB port can supply max 0.5-0.9 A depending on version.
For battery charging devices the current can go to 5A.
Higher voltage will trip a warning window telling you to disconnect and use official HTC equipment.
The phone monitors input voltage to protect the equipment.
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That means a higher capacity battery (more current NOT MORE VOLTAGE) will damage the phone?!!!!
Totally wrong!
A higher current will not damage the phone. A higher voltage will do it!
Please do not mix the current with voltage!
Voltage is same 5 Volts (±5%) for these “USB like” applications (1A or 2.1A power supply our case )They use USB socket/connector but usually only pin 1 and 4 (+ and-)
Regular computer USB port can supply max 0.5-0.9 A depending on version.
For battery charging devices the current can go to 5A.
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and to add to that... unless you take the charger apart and short pins 2 and 3, it will only ever draw 500mA, as it assumes that it is hooked up to a regular powered USB port... I have bought multiple car charger usb adapters, and I have taken all of them apart and soldered the 2nd and 3rd pins together... otherwise charge time = forever, and sometimes it won't even charge if you have wifi or data/gps/bluetooth all going at once...
I recently got an Amaze and am generally happy with it. The biggest problem I have right now is finding the right car charger for it because the car charger I previously used (a 1A monoprice car charger) doesn't give it enough charge. I have been reading through the forums and some has been saying that if the charger is not working properly, it will recognize it as charging via USB rather than AC. In my case, the phone seems to be reading it as charging through AC, but there still doesn't seem to be enough current going through it. The phone will only charge if NOTHING is going on (i.e. screen's off, no GPS, etc.). I've been using CoPilot GPS and it draws the battery like crazy. Anyone has any idea as to which car charger would work properly with the Amaze such that I'll be able to charge (or at least maintain the charge) while using it as a GPS? Do I need to go up to a 2.1A charger?
I would look for a 4-5 star rated 2.1a car charger on Amazon.
Just read through the comments and feedback and you'll find one that's right for you.
I prefer the USB charger base itself and then using the OEM cable that came with the Amaze.
It seems to charge faster with that cable, at least to me anyway.
Remember though if it's rated 2.1a but has two USB slots that 2.1a will be cut in half if used to charge two different devices.
Hope this helps.
I couldve sworn we talked about this months ago. Let me see if I can find the thread.
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I would look for a 4-5 star rated 2.1a car charger on Amazon.
Just read through the comments and feedback and you'll find one that's right for you.
I prefer the USB charger base itself and then using the OEM cable that came with the Amaze.
It seems to charge faster with that cable, at least to me anyway.
Remember though if it's rated 2.1a but has two USB slots that 2.1a will be cut in half if used to charge two different devices.
Hope this helps.
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you won't get the full 2.1a unless you usee a charge only cable or modify the charger as I stated above...
I ended up getting a 2.1A car charger and a USB charge only cable, and it's working perfectly. When I have the screen on full brightness and doing navigation with Co-Pilot GPS, my phone's no longer losing charge and is actually charging. The combo also works with my tablet as well.
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and to add to that... unless you take the charger apart and short pins 2 and 3, it will only ever draw 500mA, as it assumes that it is hooked up to a regular powered USB port... I have bought multiple car charger usb adapters, and I have taken all of them apart and soldered the 2nd and 3rd pins together... otherwise charge time = forever, and sometimes it won't even charge if you have wifi or data/gps/bluetooth all going at once...
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This is damn helpful! So THAT is why when driving and using gps or whatnot I would always lose more battery even on charger.. So basically I can just solder the middle 2 pins together to trick it into thinking it is being powered like a home charger? No chance it will hurt anything I assume?
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This is damn helpful! So THAT is why when driving and using gps or whatnot I would always lose more battery even on charger.. So basically I can just solder the middle 2 pins together to trick it into thinking it is being powered like a home charger? No chance it will hurt anything I assume?
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I have done this to every single one of my USB car chargers... not a single issue...
Although my S3 detects being plugged in to my car USB adaptor and my PC, the charge rate is ridiculously slow. If using the device as a sat-nav, the battery still declines quite rapidly.
My understanding is this is usually caused by weak output, but the charger I'm using purports to put out 2A!
Can anyone recommend a car charger for the S3 that actually works? Thanks!
The charger doesn't "tell" your phone that it can drain more than 0.5Amp.
While it's possible to go to higher speeds, the S3 prevents it unless it's sure to have a high-speed charger since most motherboard manufacturers only use crappy cheap components without power limiter.
The detection is done by a resistor between the data pins on the USB connector, so that one is either missing or the wrong value.
SiyahKernel allows you to manually force the phone to go up to 1Amp, however I wouldn't recommend it; forget to set it back and you potentially fry your computer's motherboard and/or other chargers you connect it to.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/TomTom-Univ...sr_1_sc_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1342436003&sr=8-3-spell
Both ports charge as AC
Jezza0 said:
Although my S3 detects being plugged in to my car USB adaptor and my PC, the charge rate is ridiculously slow. If using the device as a sat-nav, the battery still declines quite rapidly.
My understanding is this is usually caused by weak output, but the charger I'm using purports to put out 2A!
Can anyone recommend a car charger for the S3 that actually works? Thanks!
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I purchased the carphone warehouse in car charger, that works fine, but was aroudn £12.
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The charger doesn't "tell" your phone that it can drain more than 0.5Amp.
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Thanks - that was what I suspected, although I wasn't sure why my old devices could (apparently) negotiate a higher current, unless the S3 needs significantly more to charge.
If I've understood wikipedia correctly, the S3 should be able to draw 900mA from a USB 3.0 certified port, but only 500mA from <= USB 2.0. So a PC with the later standard would charge the S3 quite nicely.
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/TomTom-Univ...sr_1_sc_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1342436003&sr=8-3-spell
Both ports charge as AC
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Thanks for your recommendation. 1-click ordered... you should get commission!
Guess I'll just leave a scathing review on the one I ordered. I should have known a <£3 charger was never going to work!
@daz_2000 - thanks for your comment, but I went for the TomTom brand... being able to charge 2 devices is a good thing.
Learn from my fail
OK. The issue was not my chargers, but the fact that I cheaped out on my micro-USB cables. When I use my OEM cable, it charges at the expected rate.
Two new genuine Sammy cables ordered.
OK. The issue was not my chargers, but the fact that I cheaped out on my micro-USB cables.
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If the cables are very cheap they have the wrong resistance which causes your phone not to recognize the charger.
I should have known a <£3 charger was never going to work!
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They always worked for me =) Although one went literally up in smoke, capacitor blew and caused the converter to overheat within seconds.
No damage done to the device... luckily. Or at least the device (old iPod 30G) didn't care about it, they were nearly indestructable, similar to the old Nokia phones.
I wasn't sure why my old devices could (apparently) negotiate a higher current, unless the S3 needs significantly more to charge.
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It potentially didn't. (Even if you now know that your cable is the issue). The S3 has a far larger battery so that it charges slower.
The Xperia Tablet Z is a notoriously slow charger and won't charge over USB (from what I've heard, I don't have mine yet). Does anyone know of a portable charger or power pack that'll work with it?
Ideally one available in Europe.
Cheers.
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The Xperia Tablet Z ... won't charge over USB (from what I've heard, I don't have mine yet).
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The Xperia Tablet Z is supplied with a charger that connects to its USB port; so, the XTZ will charge via its USB port.
If you attempt to charge the tablet via a computer's USB port, that port must be capable of supplying enough charging amperes, otherwise, the tablet will not charge. Standard USB 2.0 ports supply up to 500 mA and standard USB 3.0 ports supply up 900 mA, neither of which is truly enough amperes to charge the tablet. USB ports on computers that are specifically designed for charging devices usually supply 1500 mA (1.5 A) or more. Some manufacturers mark these types of USB ports with a lightening bolt symbol.
As for portable chargers, I have not used any except for chargers that fit in my automobile's power plug (cigarette lighter plug).
Morti said:
The Xperia Tablet Z is a notoriously slow charger and won't charge over USB (from what I've heard, I don't have mine yet). Does anyone know of a portable charger or power pack that'll work with it?
Ideally one available in Europe.
Cheers.
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Any halfway recent (read: last 5 years) USB charger will work with it. Be it the one Sony supplies with the tablet, an iPad charger...or one for the Galaxy Note 2.
USB chargers are standardized, you need a "special" one nowadays about as much as you need a "special" socket for a device with a power plug.
The only difference is that we have weaker and stronger chargers, but this does not limit their usability. If you use a weak charger your device will charge slower, if you use a charger with an higher maximum power as your device needs it will expl nothing bad will happen either, it won't take more from the charger than it can handle.
Personally I bought (since I need the original 1.5A charger for the dock) a 2A Samsung charger for travelling. I think it is the same as the Galaxy Note 2 uses, which you already have.
Oh, and it charges with the 2A one over USB also around 30% faster than with Sonys 1.5A.
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Any halfway recent (read: last 5 years) USB charger will work with it. Be it the one Sony supplies with the tablet, an iPad charger...or one for the Galaxy Note 2.
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Maybe I'm not being clear.
Portable power supply. With a battery. One that puts out enough power to actually use the XTZ while it's charging, even if doing so only keeps the battery the same rather than actually charging it.
Can anyone recommend anything?
I know it uses a standard micro USB connector to charge but I've heard it won't charge from most PCs as they don't put out enough power. My understanding of many portable chargers is that they also don't put out a great deal of power unless specifically designed for laptops and the like. I don't know if the tablet's needs are quite that, but I'm looking for anyone who has experience using a battery pack with it and if anyone has any recommendations.
Or am I being silly and it'll work with anything capable of charging any tablet?
Thanks.
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Or am I being silly and it'll work with anything capable of charging any tablet?
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It should. The XTZs battery isn't exactly high capacity as tablets go. The Nexus 10 has a 50% bigger one and the iPad3/4 one is almost twice as large.
The principle of power packs is in the end identical as that of basic USB chargers, even a 500mA one will charge the XTZ, but it will take around 15 hours for that (and around 24+ hours to charge an iPad). It isn't a question of "working", but of "working how fast". But, as said, the XDZ hasn't exactly an huge battery, so if anything it will charge faster than other Tablets.
Assuming you do not use it, that is. It is quite possible to discharge it as fast a 3A/hour if you use maximum screen brightness and CPU intensive tasks. But you can discharge other Tablets faster than you can charge them as well.
So what to use - same principle as with USB chargers, pick any. It does not matter if its power comes from a power plug or batteries. If ti works for one USB device it will work for all. What matters is it's maximum A output. One with 2A should be able to charge the XTZ in 4.5 hours, one with 1.5A in 6 hours, and so on...
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So what to use - same principle as with USB chargers, pick any. It does not matter if its power comes from a power plug or batteries. If ti works for one USB device it will work for all. What matters is it's maximum A output. One with 2A should be able to charge the XTZ in 4.5 hours, one with 1.5A in 6 hours, and so on...
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Yeah, I'm looking for something that charges the XTZ faster than (or as fast as) it discharges.
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Yeah, I'm looking for something that charges the XTZ faster than (or as fast as) it discharges.
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The Sony CPF2LS USB Portable Power Supply with 7000 mAh Battery charges at 1.5 amps so it should work for you. I'd post a link to Amazon, but, alas, I can't. It's around 63 bucks.
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John Francis
Morti said:
The Xperia Tablet Z is a notoriously slow charger and won't charge over USB (from what I've heard, I don't have mine yet). Does anyone know of a portable charger or power pack that'll work with it?
Ideally one available in Europe.
Cheers.
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There is a slew of chargers that will charge it. You can use laptop USB, but like mentioned if you use it while charging it will drain
To solve this problem you simply need to have a portable charger that will put out at least 1.5amp(which is what the tablet charges at if im not mistaken).
So plenty are on amazon or ebay which you should have access to in europe
I use powergen ,they work well and is good quailty. Like either of these will workbigger mah will make the charger simply last longer)
http://www.amazon.com/PowerGen-PGMP...=UTF8&qid=1372292278&sr=8-2&keywords=powergen
http://www.amazon.com/PowerGen-PGMP...=UTF8&qid=1372292278&sr=8-3&keywords=powergen
Key thing is to simply look for the amerpage it puts out before you buy, that's how you know if it will charge and use the tablet at the same time. I can sucessfully do both using my car charger(2amp made for iphones) and my Powergen
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Yeah, I'm looking for something that charges the XTZ faster than (or as fast as) it discharges.
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The thing is this entirely depends how you use it. It is quite possible to use it in such a way that you would need a 3A charger to stop it from discharging. I do not think such one exists nor that the battery can accept such a charge.
So AFAIK a charger (be it a power plug or battery one) which stops it from discharging under all kinds of usage scenarios does not exist.
Therefore there is no answer to you "which charger I should use" question, only that the more A a charger puts out, the more usage scenarios will be covered (as in "will charge tablet while using it that way") by it.
Test how fast the Tablet discharges (without charging it) when you use it the way you plan to while using your charger. That will give you an indicator what kind of power you need. I.e. if it takes 12 hours even only a 0.5A charger will work, if it takes 2 hours you would need a 3A charger, which likely doesn't exists.
Im using an innergie charger that gives 2.1 amps and it charges a little faster than the 1.5a that came with it!
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also i noticed that the quality of the cable has an effect, cheap ones take longer!!
http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Flas...?ie=UTF8&qid=1374806804&sr=8-3&keywords=anker
I'm looking into buying this,hopefully the charging will be somewhat quick as opposed to my current rate. I wonder if there will we a decent charging rate when I use it with this:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/david-toledo/the-practical-meter-know-your-power
padooka said:
http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Flas...?ie=UTF8&qid=1374806804&sr=8-3&keywords=anker
I'm looking into buying this,hopefully the charging will be somewhat quick as opposed to my current rate. I wonder if there will we a decent charging rate when I use it with this:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/david-toledo/the-practical-meter-know-your-power
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You know that that charger will only charge around 66% of the XTZs battery, though?
(Effective maximum capacity ~4A (see "attrition factor" explained in 2nd review), XTZs battery: 6A)
I am using my Samsung Note2 charger that states 2A.
Charges alot faster so for people with other chargers I should check samsung chargers haha.
Heya,
I've used the Momox iPowerPro+ on my Xperia Tablet Z and no problems
http://shop.brando.com/Momax-8500mA...2-1A-1A-External-Battery_p08658c0191d003.html
so got tired of not finding a fast charge mod so I mod the cable.
took a realy thin cheap USB cable and cut it in two. on the phone side chortsircut the data cables (white and grean) then connected the vcc+ and ground- normal.
the only reason I cut it in two was to be able to tread a shrink tube on the cable.
now I get fast charge from car and power pack and. and it works perfect.
now stop saying u need a special or expensive cable.
u need a knife and shrink tube and a heat gun (a cigaret lighter works)
and no u can't use this cable for datacynk only charge
maydayind said:
so got tired of not finding a fast charge mod so I mod the cable.
took a realy thin cheap USB cable and cut it in two. on the phone side chortsircut the data cables (white and grean) then connected the vcc+ and ground- normal.
the only reason I cut it in two was to be able to tread a shrink tube on the cable.
now I get fast charge from car and power pack and. and it works perfect.
now stop saying u need a special or expensive cable.
u need a knife and shrink tube and a heat gun (a cigaret lighter works)
and no u can't use this cable for datacynk only charge
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Cool, thanks man, I'm gonna do that.
Why blow data when you can just get a cheap 4$ cable from newegg with 22 awg power leads. I linked it in confirmed usb cable thread. You destroyed a cable and made it special, hence using a special one instead of standard. The base is pre shorted. You increased AWG technically. Get it? You made a charge only cable, when these are special and can be had cheap anywhere. Buy a nice 4$ standard one with the right power lead awg and you can use it for anything.
...or.. Crazy idea here. Get an Android charger?
Cutting up USB cables is a bad idea, especially shorting them out. The data pins are not supposed to be shorted, generally 200Ohms is expected.
They are suppose to be shorted with fast charge... the base normally does this on plug in on AC switch. A USB3 port also does this... all he did was make a charge only cable. With fast charge 2 though, you won't make it much past 1A this way, just like USB3. Why our stock cable has thick power lead AWG and the phone can reach 1.8A.
Steamer86 said:
They are suppose to be shorted with fast charge... the base normally does this on plug in on AC switch. A USB3 port also does this... all he did was make a charge only cable. With fast charge 2 though, you won't make it much past 1A this way, just like USB3. Why our stock cable has thick power lead AWG and the phone can reach 1.8A.
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As I said, 200ohm, not shorted... Anyway.
unless the plugg that u connect the USB cable in i sent chortcircut it won't fast charge whatever cable u use. this is for making a charge cable to use with carcharger ore power packs. of u use a wallcharger it's 99% certain it is already chotend and u don't need this. but if u use the original cable (fastcharge) it won't fast charge in a power pack or car charger.
and I charge att same speed with this cable then original charger cable that came with the phone. measured 1.8a with this cable that's all my Powerpack can output. can probably go higher depending on how mutch the phone can use.
it's li-po so should be able to charge 0-100% in 20min but whill shorten battery life and don't think oer phones can handle it
I fast charge with 3 different cables. Again, it's the AWG. Facts don't lie. My power pack and car charger are pre shorted, so all good. If not pre shorted though, you are correct sir.
my wasn't that's why I made this. so no matter what cable used it won't fast charge. Som people also say u have to by a expensive cable with is bull####
if someone can provide a link with a preshortens cable... well then show it. unable to find any
It is legit. I did this with a car USB cable when I had my One X. It would only charge at USB rate (500ma) even though it was a 1A charger. Using navigation the battery would discharge faster than it charged. Tried various cables, and only got it to work by shorting the data pair. After that it charged AC at full 1A.
maydayind said:
my wasn't that's why I made this. so no matter what cable used it won't fast charge. Som people also say u have to by a expensive cable with is bull####
if someone can provide a link with a preshortens cable... well then show it. unable to find any
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Several available on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=usb+charging+only+cable
Not always. My car cigarette adapter is modded to short data pins. It fast charges all my other devices and even my tablets, but doesn't even charge my G2. It says its charging, no slow charging messages, but still depletes battery. Only way toncharge in my car is to use the second USB port that is unmodded, which slow charges. Annoying.
I still think there is a software bug limiting the charging speeds because you can get different speeds by plugging in the same cable mulitple times.
-sent from my LG G2 using XDA Premium 4
We aren't saying you are wrong, you are just doing something different. It's not about expensive, its about thickness for the combo usb cable. Just the awg. What your solution does is increase awg. They are called charge only cables (pre-post short). What people were searching for are COMBO cables. You are using/doing something different. Why titles are called "working USB" cables, not charge only. We already knew this. There is bugs. That was apparent in the voltage testing. Something in the kernel isn't playing right at all times. I have seen this on my car charger. With no change in conditions, I can sometimes charge 200mA's higher with a replug.
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Not always. My car cigarette adapter is modded to short data pins. It fast charges all my other devices and even my tablets, but doesn't even charge my G2. It says its charging, no slow charging messages, but still depletes battery. Only way toncharge in my car is to use the second USB port that is unmodded, which slow charges. Annoying.
I still think there is a software bug limiting the charging speeds because you can get different speeds by plugging in the same cable mulitple times.
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The included home charger for the G2 is rated at 1.8A -- use anything smaller, and you'll see the pop up warning on the phone that charging will be slow and that you should use the "official" charger.
My guess -- if you can find a car charger that actually will put out as much as the phone wants to draw (e.g., 1.8A), and THEN use your shorted data lines, you'll see fast charging of the G2 in your car.
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The included home charger for the G2 is rated at 1.8A -- use anything smaller, and you'll see the pop up warning on the phone that charging will be slow and that you should use the "official" charger.
My guess -- if you can find a car charger that actually will put out as much as the phone wants to draw (e.g., 1.8A), and THEN use your shorted data lines, you'll see fast charging of the G2 in your car.
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The 3SIXT micro USB charger I have is rated to 1A not modded, just bog standard. When charging I checked the battery stats and it says AC charging. Now I don't know if it has the data pins pre-shorted, but it managed to boost my battery by 10% in under 20 minutes. The phone was idle, but that's not bad going for a 1A $10 charger.
seems like the moderators did a god job deleting som posts.
just want to say I'm a sorry for my bad manur/attitude/language.
keep the input comming
here is another thread about the topic on another device
* *http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292373
maydayind said:
so got tired of not finding a fast charge mod so I mod the cable.
took a realy thin cheap USB cable and cut it in two. on the phone side chortsircut the data cables (white and grean) then connected the vcc+ and ground- normal.
the only reason I cut it in two was to be able to tread a shrink tube on the cable.
now I get fast charge from car and power pack and. and it works perfect.
now stop saying u need a special or expensive cable.
u need a knife and shrink tube and a heat gun (a cigaret lighter works)
and no u can't use this cable for datacynk only charge
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Cool, thanks man
jonstrong said:
The included home charger for the G2 is rated at 1.8A -- use anything smaller, and you'll see the pop up warning on the phone that charging will be slow and that you should use the "official" charger.
My guess -- if you can find a car charger that actually will put out as much as the phone wants to draw (e.g., 1.8A), and THEN use your shorted data lines, you'll see fast charging of the G2 in your car.
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not true have tried 3 other chargers 1.2 1.0 and 0.8 all say fastcharge (ac) with my modes cable. as long as it's over 500ma and with a cable with data pins shortend the slow charge warning is removed an the phone thinks it's charging from ac
charging my phone now with a Powerpack with 1a output and it says fastcharge (ac)
if I use the original cable it goes to slowcharging 500ma iv meshurd befor I put on the shrinking tube for isolation
and a car charger can output in theory 5-20a depending on your fuse in the car
the charging current is controlled by kernels in so phone. my old sensation u culd mod with a fastcharge Kernel so it never limited to 500ma always use max.
Samsung even has the ability to do a full charge in 30min but disabled in Kernel.
lg - g2 uses lipo battery's and culd actually be charged in less then 20min but if we do that u have to replace the battery every 6month at the best.
and lipo are extremely sensitive to over charge and the cells have to be charged with precision balans not to explode or swell.