I have been having a weird issue with my 4G the last few days. I live in Oklahoma City which was a city that got 4G awhile ago it was running fine with no real problems until yesterday. The problem is it shows service and I can load xda app to get to forums but youtube, pda net, dolphin browser won't load. When I switch over to cdma it loads fine(just slower of course). When i switch back to LTE xda app loads and speed test .net show correct 4G numbers. I have tried flashing a new ROM from cm7 1.2, Omfgb, synergy sense 3.0 nightlies plus chingys lastest ROM. Flashed radios 2mr 2.5mr and the lastest radio chingy put on root wiki. I wipe usally 3times between flashes and dalvik a few times. I was just wondering if anyone has had this trouble or maybe its something up with Oklahoma City since it just happened a few days ago. If anyone else has this problem or has fixed it please let me know.
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Dolphin browser will load about 75% Then stop but I can look at the webzine format. This is quite weird. Sorry for double posting I just thought id add that
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Yeah, the only time on aosp that I lose data is when using the xda app and I have no idea why
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Just to let you know I am having LTE data issues in OKC too.
I read over on rootzwiki someone in Texas was having the same problemn he lives in Texas. So maybe its a Verizon network problem
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Same thing in dallas, browser works if you use bing gotta be a google/verizon issue. I don't know why but it will not connect to google using 4g.
Same thing in the DFW area of TX. I cannot connect to G+ on 4G but if I switch over to 3G it works fine. Also have the browsing issue on the stock browser.
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Verizon had no clue what I was talking about. What's really aggravating is google voice isn't working either on 4g.
I do not think its a root or radio issue. I have Th3roy on mine with the leaked radio its got no google voice or browser on 4g, 3g is fine, im in Tulsa. One of my buddies had two non rooted tb's they're both doing exactly the same thing.
4glte data to the browser and google voice is back up here in Tulsa at 1907
im having the same problem here in text i read on the CM7 people were having this problem too it says i have 4g but when i try to use my apps or go on the internet pages wont load. i have notice that if i switch to cdma 3g it works just fine so i been on while im out in about. i also notice that when i use wifi tether on 4g it works just fine when i am connected tp my xbox and laptop i get good speeds but on my phone web pages just wont load. i went ahead and called verizon about the problem and they said nothing was wrong with 4g here in the south even tho they are reciving alot of calls about the issue and tried to trouble shoot me which didnt wor and say i wasnt in a 4g area even tho houston was in the frist batch of of cities to get 4gand i tried trouble shoot myself by changeing roms and radios still no lucky.. i believe verizon messed something up because i just started having these problems saturday night and either dont know whats going on or are playing dumb until they figure it out....sorry about the long message
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4glte data to the browser and google voice is back up here in Tulsa at 1907
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its not only in OKC im in Texas and having these problems and for me none of my web pages load on exp.. droid life, bgr, phonedog, phandriod, android police, my droid world, google+..... its funny because the only website that seems to work for me is androidcentral.com and even funnier that the rest of the web pages will load fine on 3g like i said before verizon messed something up Saturday and either dont believe what people are telling them or are trying to keep quite about and like someone else metioned its not only rooted thunderbolts two of my coworkers with out rooted thunderbolts are having the same issue and a friend on a charge is too.`
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I have been having a weird issue with my 4G the last few days. I live in Oklahoma City which was a city that got 4G awhile ago it was running fine with no real problems until yesterday. The problem is it shows service and I can load xda app to get to forums but youtube, pda net, dolphin browser won't load. When I switch over to cdma it loads fine(just slower of course). When i switch back to LTE xda app loads and speed test .net show correct 4G numbers. I have tried flashing a new ROM from cm7 1.2, Omfgb, synergy sense 3.0 nightlies plus chingys lastest ROM. Flashed radios 2mr 2.5mr and the lastest radio chingy put on root wiki. I wipe usally 3times between flashes and dalvik a few times. I was just wondering if anyone has had this trouble or maybe its something up with Oklahoma City since it just happened a few days ago. If anyone else has this problem or has fixed it please let me know.
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still no luck in houston
I was one of people on mikmik who posted about this rootzwiki also I believe I thought I was going insane. Network problem for sure I have loaded so many roms and radios to no avail. Can't search anything on Google VIA search bar or load Google.com on 4G. Defaulted browser search and homepage to Bing for now. 4G coverage is very bad for me in DFW area of Texas.
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I was one of people on mikmik who posted about this rootzwiki also I believe I thought I was going insane. Network problem for sure I have loaded so many roms and radios to no avail. Can't search anything on Google VIA search bar or load Google.com on 4G. Defaulted browser search and homepage to Bing for now. 4G coverage is very bad for me in DFW area of Texas.
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same in houston i been tweeteing to verizon and the finally said they would call me and explain the problem but this is really unaccepteable to me i been with out 4g for 3 days now and its not only google services i cant use its many other websites that wont load on 4g but will load on 3g follow me on twitter @jimbob0789 and ill let you know what verizon saysabut this issuse beacuse im not going to do any trouble shooting again they better send me a new phone better yet a bionic
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I was one of people on mikmik who posted about this rootzwiki also I believe I thought I was going insane. Network problem for sure I have loaded so many roms and radios to no avail. Can't search anything on Google VIA search bar or load Google.com on 4G. Defaulted browser search and homepage to Bing for now. 4G coverage is very bad for me in DFW area of Texas.
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i just got off the phone with verizon and they want everyone to call in from a different number at 1800-922-0204 they also said they are aware of the issue with not being able to view google websites and that there is a setting we need to change.... i believe its something with the network because im having trouble with more than just google sites
Hey everyone,
The problem with the 4g in Houston seems to be a DNS issue. I have a thunderbolt and very few of my Google apps or services seem to be able to connect even though 4g indicator is on.
Here's a link to the topic on rootzwiki where people have found a solution:
rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?1763-Browser-not-liking-LTE&p=39618#post39618
And here's another xda thread where people are having the same issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16014183&posted=1#post16014183
If you're phone is rooted please try the set DNS app to change to the appropriate DNS and let us all know how it goes. Since my phone isn't rooted, I will wait it out a little longer just to see if Verizon fixes the DNS. However, I think we should all email/call/harass Verizon as much as possible. It's flat out unacceptable to the consumers who paid good money and locked in on a 2 year contract to get 4g. I could have taken my money elsewhere but Verizon has the fastest network, but if Verizon can't get their DNS server working then I'd rather take my money elsewhere.
I just grabbed set DNs and used Google dnsand my 4glte is now running fine. Good idea.
Th3orys latest infused xx radio.
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My 4g in DFW just went down. All I get right now is 3g... or 1X if I force lte in the bamf toolkit. Wonder if they are working on it?
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My 4g in DFW just went down. All I get right now is 3g... or 1X if I force lte in the bamf toolkit. Wonder if they are working on it?
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Same here. I put it in LTE mode, and used the DNS fix, and half hour later, I don't get any 4G, and no data at all. 3G seems to work.
I decided to restore my default DNS settings back.
EDIT: Never mind its back up now.
Has any other aria users got the dreaded att tethering text warning? i got one today and was wondering if this was just a ploy to scare us into stoping / changing plans or can they really tell.
i read something about changing the TTL number in our device cause that is tipping them off. Also read about different APN's being used for phone / tethered use.
I have been tethering for well over 2 years now, averaging between 5 to 10 gigs of data a month, so if they can tell that it is tethering and not phone usage why have they waited till now to try and stop me?
Does any one have any advice?
My guess (and this is strictly a guess, I don't have any inside knowledge or anything) is that they likely went after the biggest, easiest target group of people who were tethering without tethering plans first - which I would guess are jailbroken iphone users. After that, they are probably going after the biggest data users. at 5-10 GB per month, I'd guess (again I don't know) that you probably don't qualify in this category either. Maybe they've finally gotten around to going after the small-ish heavy data users??
Ha I got one of those txt msg today too. Mine didn't have any warning or anything it simply said something about tethering and to call them for details.
I don't think they can change your plan without your permission.
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Ha I got one of those txt msg today too. Mine didn't have any warning or anything it simply said something about tethering and to call them for details.
I don't think they can change your plan without your permission.
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Sure they can. Stick a sim with no data plan in a smart phone and watch how fast they throw a data plan on the line without your permission.
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Sure they can. Stick a sim with no data plan in a smart phone and watch how fast they throw a data plan on the line without your permission.
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They definitely will change it. Heard it straight from AT&T guy.
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I know they can change your plan of you violate the TOS, which I am by tethering. But it is my under standing that with iphones there is something in the software that is telling them. That is why they cracked down on iPhone users first. Butt I am on a fully rooted aria with CM7. So there is nothing software wise that squealing on me. So is it the way the data is transferred ( apn, ttl, ???), or are they just guessing based on data usage.
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I know they can change your plan of you violate the TOS, which I am by tethering. But it is my under standing that with iphones there is something in the software that is telling them. That is why they cracked down on iPhone users first. Butt I am on a fully rooted aria with CM7. So there is nothing software wise that squealing on me. So is it the way the data is transferred ( apn, ttl, ???), or are they just guessing based on data usage.
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Nerds just know.
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Nerds just know.
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ROFL
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ha. When you said 5-10 gigs I was taken back. I went to the ATT store about a month ago and asked how much data I used last month. 125 mb!!!! This is because I am always on wifi unless I am traveling. After hearing this I almost began tethering!
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ha. When you said 5-10 gigs I was taken back. I went to the ATT store about a month ago and asked how much data I used last month. 125 mb!!!! This is because I am always on wifi unless I am traveling. After hearing this I almost began tethering!
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I use around 10gb a month easily. The way I see it I'm paying for unlimited data so I'm gonna use unlimited. Recently it seems like I've been throttled back a bit (just a guess not positive) .
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Are you using a stock rom? I assume since you actually have the hotspot software installed you are using a 3rd party rom.
Not all roms remove the AT&T apn that you connect to when using hotspot instead of basic tethering. (AT&T paid tethering uses isp.cingular, while your normal data connection, and the apn you should tether through is wap.cingular).
Im a heavy data user (5-10gb+), never gotten a text message to upgrade my account (MediaNET) or to stop tethering (using wap.cingular only)
Also, Ive had this discussion on xda a long time ago, but it seems a very few of us might be grandfathered in. Last time I got a phone (and updated my contract) from AT&T was back when they were AT&T the first time around. Before Cingular. Still buying new/used phones on ebay, and keeping my unlimited MediaNET account. My wife has a BB, and I use an Android phone, and neither one of use has ever been forced into a new data plan.
Ive also always paid my bill on time, and online, and I literally have never called AT&T for any sort of problem. (which from what Ive read, the CSR will instantly upgrade your plan if they see anything awry with your account.)
Check your rom, make sure you're using the correct apn, remove the tethering data plan using your online account tools, and try not to tether so much. (surf, don't download.)
Root
You can root your aria by useing unrevoked... When you have done that download liberated 2.2 rom and flash it...When that is done and click wifi hotspot and there you go.. THis willl also unlock unknown sources option and allow you to get non market apps (Swype) Hope this helped!
Bumping an old thread.
After years and years, I finally got the txt message, and a letter in the mail today!
(the tethering letter, not the "we're going to force upgrade your plan" letter)
Going to stop tethering (haven't tethered in months at all, but did use ttorrent, a native android torrent program over the past month)
Been out of contract forever, would hate to have to buy new phones, but would consider changing providers if they get rid of our cheap data plan.
Good opportunity for a bump, yes. I have my own recent experience.
I remember a few months ago trying to manually set up an APN to get around it... and what finally worked was to install unrevoked and then Liberated. Then I could run the wireless hotspot without trouble.
However... I started having issues downloading MMS... pictures just wouldn't download easily or at all sometimes... I had this problem for a few months, while the wifi hotspotting worked fine. I googled this "network error" I was getting while trying to download MMS attachments, and it said that the Aria has problems switching between two different APN's.
SO... I removed the second APN. Now, I'm not sure if it's the one I originally created BEFORE Liberated, or if Liberated installed its own secondary APN. What I *DO* know is that removing my second APN (and leaving just the locked "MEdia Net" one) fixed my MMS problem... BUT... IT RETURNED THE DAMN "no tethering" notification when I tried to run the hotspot again!!!
WTF??
I hate this. WHAT is it that generates that message?
EDIT: SO I re-created the second (unlocked) APN profile.. I called it "root" and copied all the info from the locked MEdia Net APN profile, and I somehow apparently remembered that the password was CINGULAR, because now when I try the wifi hotspot it works without the error.
SO... it needs to use a fresh profile, because something in the original locked "MEdia Net" APN profile is what triggers the damn wifi error "call 611" message.
I just hope I don't get more MMS problems again. I wish there was a way a guru could get into the "locked" MEdiaNet APN and see what is causing the lockout, and how to remove it, so we can just have ONE APN profile.
But meh. I got tethering back.
NOW... to answer some questions that some of you have raised here... I spoke to two different AT&T techs on the phone.. I made sure to get North American call centers, one in Kentucky I think and the other was in northern California. Both of them said essentially the same thing:
Throttling back will occur with the TOP 5% of data users. These are people who use somewhere around 15-20 gigs a month (which is way beyond the common tiered 2GB limit).
NOW, for those of us who tether, it depends. If you're streaming crap, downloading programs and lots of media, then YES, you're going to push yourself into the higher bracket. However, one of the techs mentioned that he uses Pandora with his Inspire on the HD setting, and he listens to it in his cubicle at work every day, and on the way to and from work in his car. He said he still never goes beyond his 2GB limit. I had been using Pandora on my Aria without the realization there was an HD setting (so apparently I've been enjoying the lower bandwidth stream without issues, sounds fine to me). I haven't even put a dent in my usage.
The only people who truly need to worry about tethering and bandwidth and throttling and Aria phones (and pretty much all the Android phones, won't speak for iPhone on this) are those power users who are tethering their phone to their computer CONSTANTLY, and raping the net for all sorts of streams and media downloads... bittorrents, emule feeds, etc. People who are indeed abusing things and doing so not for one month, but he said for a few consecutive months. Honestly, those are the people who SHOULD be throttled IMO. I don't mind the idea of someone going over their 2GB limit, or in the case of the few remaining people on Unlimited data plans (such as myself), doing so a few months scattered throughout the year is one thing, but consistently syphoning at high transfers every month in a row... yeah, that's not 99% of us.
So really, I'll keep tethering my Galaxy Tab to my phone, rather than pay for my Tab's data plan. I *can't* do any hardcore data hogging on this Galaxy Tab. It just makes sense to take advantage of my Aria's 3G data, since I can use it more comfortably on the tablet than on the tiny Aria. Truth be told, that's why I got the Aria... small and a great phone, able to serve the tablet data, and on those rare moments where all I have on me is the phone, do pretty much most the basic Android things.
Anyways I hope this contributes some to the thread.
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Good opportunity for a bump, yes. I have my own recent experience.
I remember a few months ago trying to manually set up an APN to get around it... and what finally worked was to install unrevoked and then Liberated. Then I could run the wireless hotspot without trouble.
However... I started having issues downloading MMS... pictures just wouldn't download easily or at all sometimes... I had this problem for a few months, while the wifi hotspotting worked fine. I googled this "network error" I was getting while trying to download MMS attachments, and it said that the Aria has problems switching between two different APN's.
SO... I removed the second APN. Now, I'm not sure if it's the one I originally created BEFORE Liberated, or if Liberated installed its own secondary APN. What I *DO* know is that removing my second APN (and leaving just the locked "MEdia Net" one) fixed my MMS problem... BUT... IT RETURNED THE DAMN "no tethering" notification when I tried to run the hotspot again!!!
WTF??
I hate this. WHAT is it that generates that message?
EDIT: SO I re-created the second (unlocked) APN profile.. I called it "root" and copied all the info from the locked MEdia Net APN profile, and I somehow apparently remembered that the password was CINGULAR, because now when I try the wifi hotspot it works without the error.
SO... it needs to use a fresh profile, because something in the original locked "MEdia Net" APN profile is what triggers the damn wifi error "call 611" message.
I just hope I don't get more MMS problems again. I wish there was a way a guru could get into the "locked" MEdiaNet APN and see what is causing the lockout, and how to remove it, so we can just have ONE APN profile.
But meh. I got tethering back.
NOW... to answer some questions that some of you have raised here... I spoke to two different AT&T techs on the phone.. I made sure to get North American call centers, one in Kentucky I think and the other was in northern California. Both of them said essentially the same thing:
Throttling back will occur with the TOP 5% of data users. These are people who use somewhere around 15-20 gigs a month (which is way beyond the common tiered 2GB limit).
NOW, for those of us who tether, it depends. If you're streaming crap, downloading programs and lots of media, then YES, you're going to push yourself into the higher bracket. However, one of the techs mentioned that he uses Pandora with his Inspire on the HD setting, and he listens to it in his cubicle at work every day, and on the way to and from work in his car. He said he still never goes beyond his 2GB limit. I had been using Pandora on my Aria without the realization there was an HD setting (so apparently I've been enjoying the lower bandwidth stream without issues, sounds fine to me). I haven't even put a dent in my usage.
The only people who truly need to worry about tethering and bandwidth and throttling and Aria phones (and pretty much all the Android phones, won't speak for iPhone on this) are those power users who are tethering their phone to their computer CONSTANTLY, and raping the net for all sorts of streams and media downloads... bittorrents, emule feeds, etc. People who are indeed abusing things and doing so not for one month, but he said for a few consecutive months. Honestly, those are the people who SHOULD be throttled IMO. I don't mind the idea of someone going over their 2GB limit, or in the case of the few remaining people on Unlimited data plans (such as myself), doing so a few months scattered throughout the year is one thing, but consistently syphoning at high transfers every month in a row... yeah, that's not 99% of us.
So really, I'll keep tethering my Galaxy Tab to my phone, rather than pay for my Tab's data plan. I *can't* do any hardcore data hogging on this Galaxy Tab. It just makes sense to take advantage of my Aria's 3G data, since I can use it more comfortably on the tablet than on the tiny Aria. Truth be told, that's why I got the Aria... small and a great phone, able to serve the tablet data, and on those rare moments where all I have on me is the phone, do pretty much most the basic Android things.
Anyways I hope this contributes some to the thread.
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Well, that's a BIG bump... it's probably a pimple .
Update
i figured i would give an update to everyone. after making my initial posts i checked my data usage for the month prior to getting the "text warning" and i used 38+ GB (damn torrrents). ooops! hehehe. i guess that explains it.
Some side info, Duh! yes i am rooted. cm 7.1, Using wap.cingular APN
I called ATT, got the special division that was set up to deal with this issue. told the lady that i didn't tether i just streamed constantly. she didn't know anything about how they detected that i was tethering but as long as i didn't tether after sept 30th nothing would be changed on my account. i am still tethering as we speak and no changes have been made to my account. the only thing that i changed (besides a lot less usage) was the default TTL number on my PC.
I guess we will see when this months bill comes in. I'll keep everyone posted.
I too called the special dept. And told them a similar story that I stream from YouTube, Pandora, etc. I've also told them I've never tethered and my aria wouldn't let me. I tried it once and got a message to call 611 to enable this feature.
But now I'm a month or so into it and still no bill change.
Side note- I found a couple apps in the market that are torrent apps so now I download to my phone. Megaupload downloaded, mediafire, file serve, ect. And just surf with the tether.
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Well, another bump...
Even with the WAP.CINGULAR APN profile I am now getting the dreaded "611" popup. Rebooted twice. Reselected the custom APN multiple times. Still nada. And I only tethered a few times a week for surfing, and only a few minutes each time. So make of that what you will.
What to about my tethering issue
The whole reason I signed up for ATT was so I could tether my Atrix and play online poker (10MB/hour.)
All I did was root my phone and change a PostSQL value to enable tethering. I played poker fine, but eventually got greedy and started D/L all sorts of crap going well over my 2GB/month contract and was billed.
I just recently got the nastygram from ATT and haven't called them yet.
Could someone please explain to me what I need to do so after I call ATT I won't be detected tethering again?
I'm a semi-android newb, but certainly no linux/computer newb. Thanks for help
Hello all, I believe this is the first time I am posting here but I nee help...
Heres a little background, I am on an unlimited plan on the Droid Razr. I am staying with my sister ATM, as I am in the process of buying a house, the paperwork goes through tomorrow then I just have to wait 30 days for the loan to go through... Anyway, the only internet I can get here is AT&T uverse which is complete garbage down here... So I have been using SVTP mobile hotspot. It has worked perfectly. However I think verizon has grown to hating me... I use to have no problems with my phone, then when I moved here at the beginning of February and started using a mobile hotspot on my unlimited things started getting bad. The first half of February was fine, till I hit about 50GB of usage.... My internet started cutting out like crazy and dropping me at randoms times and I would have to reboot. February I ended up with 91GB used. My phone has been steadily getting worse and worse connection wise with the drops. The thing Is when this would happen I would still have internet, just nothing would respond...
Now, the DNS doesnt respond AT ALL with anything but google.com. It is ridiculous. When my tether is up and I try to connect my xbox, it says that my DNS server is not receiving the XBOX live server names... Hardly anything works with it now. If I try to go to websites, it just sits there and then times out. Netflix, youtube, hulu, and spotify all dont work. They tell me I have no internet connection, yet when I run a speed tests it tests fine. This is getting annoying.
When I took my phone to verizon she told me to leave it there and she will call tech support for me... Reluctantly I left it there. Turns out her solution was to install Jellybean for me. How kind.... Now not only does my DNS not work, ALL HOTSPOT APPS ARE BLOCKED.....
So what do I do? All I need is working internet and a working mobile hotspot. If I root on JB will they work again? I know If I root I can at least change my DNS to googleDNS right? I just need help...
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Hello all, I believe this is the first time I am posting here but I nee help...
Heres a little background, I am on an unlimited plan on the Droid Razr. I am staying with my sister ATM, as I am in the process of buying a house, the paperwork goes through tomorrow then I just have to wait 30 days for the loan to go through... Anyway, the only internet I can get here is AT&T uverse which is complete garbage down here... So I have been using SVTP mobile hotspot. It has worked perfectly. However I think verizon has grown to hating me... I use to have no problems with my phone, then when I moved here at the beginning of February and started using a mobile hotspot on my unlimited things started getting bad. The first half of February was fine, till I hit about 50GB of usage.... My internet started cutting out like crazy and dropping me at randoms times and I would have to reboot. February I ended up with 91GB used. My phone has been steadily getting worse and worse connection wise with the drops. The thing Is when this would happen I would still have internet, just nothing would respond...
Now, the DNS doesnt respond AT ALL with anything but google.com. It is ridiculous. When my tether is up and I try to connect my xbox, it says that my DNS server is not receiving the XBOX live server names... Hardly anything works with it now. If I try to go to websites, it just sits there and then times out. Netflix, youtube, hulu, and spotify all dont work. They tell me I have no internet connection, yet when I run a speed tests it tests fine. This is getting annoying.
When I took my phone to verizon she told me to leave it there and she will call tech support for me... Reluctantly I left it there. Turns out her solution was to install Jellybean for me. How kind.... Now not only does my DNS not work, ALL HOTSPOT APPS ARE BLOCKED.....
So what do I do? All I need is working internet and a working mobile hotspot. If I root on JB will they work again? I know If I root I can at least change my DNS to googleDNS right? I just need help...
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i don't know much about hotspot, but rooting your phone will open several doors and oportunities, maybe you can find a solution...