Ok, I've tried out quite a few roms to find that 'dream' rom and been flashing like mad, but one thing I've noticed is that there seems to be something majorly buggy with each one I've tried.
I've gone back to the Cap's Special with Sense 2.1 and WM 6.5 and have finally decided on the 'look' I want, but the virtual keyboard doesn't work properly in phone keypad or compact qwerty, which I really need when typing short, one handed messages on my touch pro. Also in my people tab, the call mobile button doesn't work to instantly call someone, I have to go into more information and call from the WM contact card. Yes it's kind of minor, but really annoying! And I can't find any cabs, fixes or anything that will solve my problem/s..
So I'm just wondering if anyone knows of a STABLE, more or less BUG-FREE and as close to stock-like rom that perhaps meets the following requirements, because I'm about ready to give up the search.. :\
- WM 6.5 (not 6.5.x) with the stock all black top and bottom and all white softkey buttons and icons.
- HTC Sense 2.1
- Start menu with original icons, nothing too fancy and messed with
- ALL virtual keyboards working properly, in both normal AND landscape mode
- Call mobile button in People tab that WORKS
Basically, I just want a stock rom with WM 6.5 and Sense 2.1 that doesn't have any major problems and can be used in landscape mode. How hard is that???
I'm kinda new to the TP ROM scene, so please forgive my ignorance and impatience. But I just want a WORKING rom, that's all. There doesn't seem to be as many out there as I thought there'd be, and so far have been very disappointed with what I've tried. Any advice or fingers pointed in the right direction would be most appreciated. Thanks!
jiwas78 said:
Ok, I've tried out quite a few roms to find that 'dream' rom and been flashing like mad, but one thing I've noticed is that there seems to be something majorly buggy with each one I've tried.
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Well sorry to disappoint you but this is windows we are talking about and these forums are created for one reason, to try and make the mobile software better, wich obvious isn't working out that good.
Will never buy a phone with windows mobile os again.
Hopefully Linux or Android will work good with this phone some day.
jiwas78 said:
So I'm just wondering if anyone knows of a STABLE, more or less BUG-FREE and as close to stock-like rom that perhaps meets the following requirements, because I'm about ready to give up the search.. :\
- WM 6.5 (not 6.5.x) with the stock all black top and bottom and all white softkey buttons and icons.
- HTC Sense 2.1
- Start menu with original icons, nothing too fancy and messed with
- ALL virtual keyboards working properly, in both normal AND landscape mode
- Call mobile button in People tab that WORKS
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Lookie here mate
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561158
Now download the "v4.21898 LD : [DOWNLOAD] - Leo Dialer"
and you will pretty much have what you need.
SweJap said:
Well sorry to disappoint you but this is windows we are talking about and these forums are created for one reason, to try and make the mobile software better, wich obvious isn't working out that good.
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these forums have made the mobile software much much better. i have only thanks and appreciation for the hard working chefs here. please take the negativity elsewhere.
k.electron said:
Lookie here mate
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561158
Now download the "v4.21898 LD : [DOWNLOAD] - Leo Dialer"
and you will pretty much have what you need.
these forums have made the mobile software much much better. i have only thanks and appreciation for the hard working chefs here. please take the negativity elsewhere.
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I have attempted to use the Tael ROMS in the past myself, I can attest to their brokenness. I tried the new ones last night. While they are the 2nd or 3rd best "Sense" ROMS I have tried, they suck on the Fuze. In short, the Fuze was not meant to run 6.5, or Sense, or...much anything other than 6.1 and the phone application. Running much else, takes too much CPU power.
So far, the "perfect" ROM I have found for the Fuze is a base, OEM-like 6.5.x, and loading on my own customizations. Trying to run Sense/Manila is pointless on these devices. Unless you just like to look at the pictures and soft reset after every application you use.
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Here's the ROM I use: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580429
It's 6.5.X, no Sense/Manila, very stable, fast, and my only complaints (with older versions) was to get GPS working with Google Maps, and Sync (which is a WinMo/Vista/7 compatibility issue and unrelated to the ROM). I am partial to speed, functionality, and reliability. This ROM does that. I then install the apps I want on top of it. haven't tried out the Kitchen version yet to build my own.
Stephen
if you want stability, use NRG rom 21898 version with cookie home tab, literally NO bugs (after you instal a cab for the volume ctrl cause the one cooked in is messed up). I highly recommend you make the switch to 2.5 sense, I thought that is was less stable, but I was very wrong. The sense 2.5 builds are more stable then the 2.1 ones, also, with cookie hometab you get INSANE customization of your homescreen as well as fluid graphics. Overall, i cannot find a single bug in the latest nrg roms. Hope this helped
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I have attempted to use the Tael ROMS in the past myself, I can attest to their brokenness. I tried the new ones last night. While they are the 2nd or 3rd best "Sense" ROMS I have tried, they suck on the Fuze. In short, the Fuze was not meant to run 6.5, or Sense, or...much anything other than 6.1 and the phone application. Running much else, takes too much CPU power.
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I actually then the 6.5.5 roms with sense 2.5 and my phone works flawlessly. never crashes, and its quite zippy. sure the battery life isnt more than 2 days but i have 5 email boxes syncing on 3g all day.
energy roms are good, but i dont like the fact that they keep changing the basics between every rom, sometimes its opera 9.7, sometimes 10, sometimes beejive, sometimes palringo. tael has a much slimmer base and just the apps that work well. and u get to have the swype keyboard.
i vote him hands down. and u can get the 21898 version which has the start on top.
SweJap said:
Well sorry to disappoint you but this is windows we are talking about and these forums are created for one reason, to try and make the mobile software better, wich obvious isn't working out that good.
Will never buy a phone with windows mobile os again.
Hopefully Linux or Android will work good with this phone some day.
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Works fine for me. I vote user error in your case. I probably won't buy a phone with win mobile again either, but that has more to do with the movement of application support towards android and iphoneOS, than to do with win mo.
Thanks for the advice guys. Much appreciated!
Yeah I'm sticking with Cap's Special still I think.. wish I had the skill, time and the patience to cook my own ROM, but I think it'd end up just as buggy if not more so than others I've tried. Eh..
I probably won't buy another WinMo phone again either, unless WM7 lives up to my expectations, which knowing M$, most likely won't.. I am NOT however going to join the iPhone cult, I simply refuse!
But my old Nokia 3600 slide is looking more and more appealing again.. lol.
Keep up the good work though!
Swype
I can at the very least solve your one handed typing issues....get Swype! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604949 It is awesome, as previously mentioned. And I am a fan of Energy ROMs myself, but if you want everything perfect, you might wanna try a little home cooking...
jiwas78 said:
Thanks for the advice guys. Much appreciated!
Yeah I'm sticking with Cap's Special still I think.. wish I had the skill, time and the patience to cook my own ROM, but I think it'd end up just as buggy if not more so than others I've tried. Eh..
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Good choice sticking with Cap's Special ROM.
His 21898 Build is by-far the fastest & most stable ROM I've used... And I've been through the GenY, Energy, and TAEL ROMS... none of them compare.
JoeUsername said:
I have attempted to use the Tael ROMS in the past myself, I can attest to their brokenness. I tried the new ones last night. While they are the 2nd or 3rd best "Sense" ROMS I have tried, they suck on the Fuze. In short, the Fuze was not meant to run 6.5, or Sense, or...much anything other than 6.1 and the phone application. Running much else, takes too much CPU power.
So far, the "perfect" ROM I have found for the Fuze is a base, OEM-like 6.5.x, and loading on my own customizations. Trying to run Sense/Manila is pointless on these devices. Unless you just like to look at the pictures and soft reset after every application you use.
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Here's the ROM I use: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=580429
It's 6.5.X, no Sense/Manila, very stable, fast, and my only complaints (with older versions) was to get GPS working with Google Maps, and Sync (which is a WinMo/Vista/7 compatibility issue and unrelated to the ROM). I am partial to speed, functionality, and reliability. This ROM does that. I then install the apps I want on top of it. haven't tried out the Kitchen version yet to build my own.
Stephen
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As previously said here try an Energy Rom with 2.5 an Cookie. And speak latter.
I'm have been using Energy Roms months and never has do a soft reset due a hang or memory problem.
btw last version (2nd May) is completly perfect. No one isue.
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Hello,
I'm using actually this ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=484240
in Version 0.8.x on my Device.
But I'm not so happy because the Rom issnt very fast. So my Question to you guys.
Which Rom is the fastest actually? I like TF3D. Is v2 better then v1?(faster?)
Is ne the version of s4dos faster then mine?
german language is a nice to have, but not the most important thing.
thx for answers
Eckki
Check out EnergyROMs. They are the fastest. Will have to charge the device more often though.
This thread will be closed and sail to the end of oblivion just like the rest of the "Wut romz iz duh bestest?" threads.
To answer your question realistically - just flash each ROM until you find one you like. We can't tell you what you like, only you can.
You may get some unpleasant responses if any at all. As noted it is best to just try a few and see what you like.
I find the Energy ROMs to be the fastest. They do drain the battery. I am on the latest Energy ROM Phoenix 3.0 which I loaded yesterday. I really like everything about it. It is very responsive, but battery drain is noticable. I unpluged from the charger this morning at 6:00am with a full charge. Now it is 3:20pm so 9 hours later I am at 37% charge. I have had only afew charges, but several soft resets which probably help drain the battery. For me this is fine. I am rarely away from a charger for long periods. I'll let this one go close to zero to see if it makes a difference for future cycles. BTW, the soft resets were intentional, not based on any problems. ...just me fiddling with the phone.
I also really like the RRE Roms. Very responsive, but the latest version has a new mod that messes up the Home key, so I switched to Energy. I really liked the RRE roms prior to the latest release. You may like the new Home key modification, but it does not work for me. I could not figure out how to get rid of the mod easily, so I switched.
Other good Chefs I have tried are Shep211 & xECK29x. There are other great chefs, but I have not tried them all extensively.
Of Course you can always go with the Iron Chef; Da_G and build your own. He has snappy stripped down ROMS that you can add your own stuff to.
Play around with several and you will get an idea about what to look for.
Happy flashing.
Doug M.
Do u guys/girls ever learn?
dwmackay said:
I also really like the RRE Roms. Very responsive, but the latest version has a new mod that messes up the Home key, so I switched to Energy. I really liked the RRE roms prior to the latest release. You may like the new Home key modification, but it does not work for me. I could not figure out how to get rid of the mod easily, so I switched.
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I'm pretty sure all of the ROMs based on 6.5 Build 21234 have the Home key open the start menu... I believe it's because of new drivers in the 4.1 kitchen or something.
Eric03 said:
I'm pretty sure all of the ROMs based on 6.5 Build 21234 have the Home key open the start menu... I believe it's because of new drivers in the 4.1 kitchen or something.
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Yes, Not to my liking but I am just one.
I think Da_G has the new Mod in all of the new Ktichens, so over time, this will become the only option.
Doug M.
dwmackay said:
Yes, Not to my liking but I am just one.
I think Da_G has the new Mod in all of the new Ktichens, so over time, this will become the only option.
Doug M.
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Yea but I'm sure Da_G or others will make CABs to revert to the old way. It's really not that bad though. Home key is for start menu, back key is for "OK", green key is for phone, and red key is to take you back to the home screen. In the old way, Home key and red key did the same thing.
My ROM is the fastest
eckki said:
Which Rom is the fastest actually?
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Its my ROM
Eric03 said:
Yea but I'm sure Da_G or others will make CABs to revert to the old way. It's really not that bad though. Home key is for start menu, back key is for "OK", green key is for phone, and red key is to take you back to the home screen. In the old way, Home key and red key did the same thing.
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Actually the Start Menu button is a simply driver update, keypad.dll. There is already a cabbed version over in the Da_G WM6.5 Kitchen thread, or just copy the keypad.dll to the \Windows\ folder manually and reset.
To the OP:
Energy Roms are really nice and seem to be the answer to your question. He has a WM6.5 version out there along with several WM6.1 versions.
All Roms usually have something unique they bring to the table. Da_G uploads basic builds with no extra software other then standard Windows Mobile stuff. Da_G gives a good base to customize the phone you want.
Me personally, I was never a fan of the TouchFlo3D interface and I choose to use the new WM6.5 homescreen. So I built one that didn't have it in there. And I've found, in my own opinion, that WM6.5 build 21222 to be really fast, pretty much bug free, and has GREAT battery life. Out of all the WM6.5 builds, 21222 is my favorite.
You can try it if you like. I uploaded the last Rom I cooked because it has been so awesome for me. It uses a WM7 skinned Titanium homescreen instead of TouchFlo3D, but you can manually install TF3D as an alternative if you wish. It has all the latest drivers for the Home = Start button, extra bluetooth profiles, and the newer mods/fixes from Da_Gs newer kitchens.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3820422
Here are a few others I would also try out:
EnergyROM 21222: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511146
Sheps 21222 w/ TF3D2: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KK4PXCO3
I originally posted this in ROM development then realized I have a CDMA version of the phone.
Like most I dont like the stock ROM. The only one I have tried so far is KK's Loaded 2.0. I like it a lot but it lacks in some areas. Mainly I like how in landscape it gives me the normal home screen. Where it lacks is that the battery life is horrible, I can barely go 12 hours on a full charge, and it is sluggish going from portrait to landscape.
The only real functions I use on the phone is text messaging, email through outlook, the Google Maps GPS and the internet to check facebook and google stuff. What im looking for is the ROM that will give me the best battery life and usability for the above functions. I would like to have the normal home screen in landscape and a faster response from portrait to landscape. I rarely use any of the microsoft office programs, I dont play any games on the phone, nothing along those lines, I literally just do the things mentioned above.
So for the people that have tried and tested the various ROMs, which one do you think is best for me? I appreciate any feedback. Thanks.
Ive just started flashing by phone and as a result, ive flashed many roms lately looking for the perfect one. Here are two of them that i feel are the best ive tried.
If you want a 6.1 rom with great battery life and alot of space for extra programs, try Mighty Rom 4.16. The great part about it is that the phone starts up quickly (almost as fast as a regular non-smartphone), the switch in screen orientation is nearly instant, and it doesn't have a bunch of extra programs on it that you may not use. The only little thing i didn't like was that it didn't include picture messaging and text messages were limited to only 120 words, rather than the 160 i was used to. Luckily, these problems were easily fixed by installing Arcsoft mms and an sms fix. Only reason i switched to a different one was because i wanted wm6.5.
If you want to take the jump to 6.5, i suggest that you check out StarROM 2.0. It's by far one of the quickest roms that i have ever used, it has great battery life (i dont need to charge my phone every single day now!), and already includes programs like Google Maps, Facebook, Opera Widgets, and the usual wm programs (outlook email, office etc.). Im currently using it on my touch pro right now and the only things that i didnt like were that i had to install the calculator, Opera, and Arcsoft MMS. I am currently using it right now and havent had any trouble ever since.
These are just roms that ive tried and liked but to find the one thats best for you, you should try some more until you find the one you're most comfortable with
Star 2.0 is what i would suggest atm.
Silence & SsS are also good roms.
Just switched to StarROM 2.0.... so far so good, will try it out for a while.... Should I change the radio on the phone? I have only had 1 other ROM besides the stock one so I am guessing that the radio on the phone is the stock one. Someone suggested that maybe my poor battery life could be a result of the wrong radio on the phone.
There all good! just try them and see what fits you best
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There all good! just try them and see what fits you best
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agree with this completely. besides it fun trying new stuff
If you want WM 6.5 with Rhodium Manila and some added Topaz goodies, I've tried most of the WM 6.5 + Rhodium Manila ROMs and personally find Energy ROM 3.0 to be the best.
ksb1472 said:
Just switched to StarROM 2.0.... so far so good, will try it out for a while.... Should I change the radio on the phone? I have only had 1 other ROM besides the stock one so I am guessing that the radio on the phone is the stock one. Someone suggested that maybe my poor battery life could be a result of the wrong radio on the phone.
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so what is your input? did you find it more battery saving or not? let us know.
I'm new to flashing and really want to flash to 6.5. I saw the review on PocketNow and wanted it right away.
However, I'm having trouble deciding what ROM to get. The hardest part is figuring out which WM 6.5 build is the latest. The numbers don't seem to go in order.
Has anyone the Sprint Optimized ROM in this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509544
I'm looking for a Sprint optimized as my priority because I worry I won't be able to find cabs for the apps that came with the phone.
Darnell_Chat_TN said:
If you want WM 6.5 with Rhodium Manila and some added Topaz goodies, I've tried most of the WM 6.5 + Rhodium Manila ROMs and personally find Energy ROM 3.0 to be the best.
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I've gone through the majority of the 6.5 roms and HANDS DOWN...Energy ROM 3.0 is the best.
I got rid of my wife's Herman, but Fallen 2.1 was pretty good, light, fast, and relatively good with battery. Other good ones are Mighty's roms, and I recently found out that NRGZ has developed a few roms for the Herman as well.
Like a few people said earlier in the thread, it is fun to try different roms to see which one fits you best. Try them for a while and then switch to the next until you feel comfy enough to stop flashing your device (or until you brick it )
Hope this helps.
I'm in the same boat as the OP and currently looking for the best ROM for my Touch Pro.
My phone came preflashed with Juicy 7 when I purchased it and found it uncomfortably slow - not to mention that it has crashed several times on me and then on reboot - proceeded to reset the device and wipe out everything.
I'd like hear, aside from what's the best, why each ROM is the best. I'm looking for a fast ROM that has good battery life (and stable).
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I'm in the same boat as the OP and currently looking for the best ROM for my Touch Pro.
My phone came preflashed with Juicy 7 when I purchased it and found it uncomfortably slow - not to mention that it has crashed several times on me and then on reboot - proceeded to reset the device and wipe out everything.
I'd like hear, aside from what's the best, why each ROM is the best. I'm looking for a fast ROM that has good battery life (and stable).
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Read my post above yours...
Personal experience...
my mogul will be here this week and i want to unlock it and flash the latest gps rom and radio. the ppc will be for sprint. id also like to install a light weight but fast 6.5 rom as well. can you guys point me in the right direction? will the bell 3.42.50 radio work on this phone?
thanks in advance!
anybody???
There's a wiki somewhere but you can use this from over at ppcgeeks.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=33857
This tells you how to do everything.
okay but can you guys recommend a lightweight 6.5 rom?
I alternate between RyanMogul's heavy 6.5 ROM (he makes a light too - I just haven't tried it) and bbsandkm's light 6.5 ROM (over at ppcgeeks). Both are great!
I vote for bbsandkm's light 6.5 ROM
I vote for ryanmoguls It seems to be there one I always go back to.
You bought a Mogul? Please tell me for less than $25...
If you want lightweight stick with a stripped down 6.1 ROM. Unless you really want Titanium or the Honeycomb (both of which I absolutely hate) then I've seen no benefit to running 6.5. Then again I haven't tested Ryan's 6.5 so maybe that one actually doesn't suck like all the others I've tested. They just eat tons of RAM with no difference other than Titanium and Honeycomb.
I second 6.1... Get DCD's 4.1.2 and you will have at least twice as much free ram as when you use 6.5... I tested 6.5 for about two weeks, went back to dcd's rom and I will never flash back to 6.5. It's just the fastest, lightest rom I've experienced, and it has some nice features as well. His older roms are good too but you miss out on some things like the touchflo in menus and in PIE. Well if you like soft resetting every couple hours then go for 6.5, knock yourself out. But if you're looking for overall best, most convenient, fastest, smoothest rom, I'd strongly recommend DCD's 4.1.2. With the right CAB's you will be able to suit it up how you like, but once you go 6.5 there's very little programs you can install and still have reasonable ram to work with.
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I second 6.1... Get DCD's 4.1.2 and you will have at least twice as much free ram as when you use 6.5... I tested 6.5 for about two weeks, went back to dcd's rom and I will never flash back to 6.5. It's just the fastest, lightest rom I've experienced, and it has some nice features as well. His older roms are good too but you miss out on some things like the touchflo in menus and in PIE. Well if you like soft resetting every couple hours then go for 6.5, knock yourself out. But if you're looking for overall best, most convenient, fastest, smoothest rom, I'd strongly recommend DCD's 4.1.2. With the right CAB's you will be able to suit it up how you like, but once you go 6.5 there's very little programs you can install and still have reasonable ram to work with.
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I don't think you used a good 6.5 if that's the case. After everything is installed on my ROM, I boot with over 25 meg free. At the end of the day, I'm still well above 21.
I'm not saying 6.1 is bad - in fact, I spent a day on DCD 4.1.2 and remembered what good work he did. It's a fantastic ROM, but I have not ever seen that poor memory on 6.5.
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If you want lightweight stick with a stripped down 6.1 ROM. Unless you really want Titanium or the Honeycomb (both of which I absolutely hate) then I've seen no benefit to running 6.5. Then again I haven't tested Ryan's 6.5 so maybe that one actually doesn't suck like all the others I've tested. They just eat tons of RAM with no difference other than Titanium and Honeycomb.
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Well, 6.5 is slightly more finger-friendly than 6.1, like, finger scrolling works in most apps on a bare 6.5
I tried a least 4 different roms... new released ones, this was like 2 weeks ago. Please point me to a stable, fast 6.5 rom with that much available memory and I will take what I said back, but I tried numerous roms with no luck. None anything even close to DCD's.
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I tried a least 4 different roms... new released ones, this was like 2 weeks ago. Please point me to a stable, fast 6.5 rom with that much available memory and I will take what I said back, but I tried numerous roms with no luck. None anything even close to DCD's.
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I'm not saying I'm as good as DCD; he has waaaay more technical knowledge than I could ever lay claim to. But here you go. My ROM boots on the initial flash in the high 20's of free RAM. Make sure you set this to High Memory Mode under Start -> Settings -> System -> Kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532030
Thanks, I'll try it out tonight and report back.
I just finished a WM 6.1 Build 21042 kitchen. Its pretty straight forward.
So far so good, looks like I was wrong. But I don't know how annoying it will be to have to reset every time I have to use my camera. I'll see how well the memory holds after I get my apps, though with 6.5 as I remember apps are hardly needed, at least not for finger friendliness.
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Well, 6.5 is slightly more finger-friendly than 6.1, like, finger scrolling works in most apps on a bare 6.5
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The newer versions of 6.1 have this as well.
Also, I actually prefer to NOT have that functionality in a ROM because then I can install FTouchFlo and have finger friendly gestures working in almost EVERY program whether it came with the ROM or not. If it's built into the OS it becomes harder to figure out how to make the built in gesture functionality not conflict with FTouchFlo.
It is nice sometimes though to just flash a ROM and have finger gestures right out of the box.
OK so after running this ROM for a while I can see its mostly like the rest of the 6.5 roms I've tried. It started with the most available ram I've seen in a 6.5 rom but that is mainly due to the disabled camera. I start off at about 26mb free after flash, 23mb free on boot after installing all my apps and whatnot. Few hours later, I'm at 10-15mb free. I must be missing something here. No I don't use apps running in the background, yes I use hibernate every now and then. Still no use, I'm under 15mb free now without a camera. With DCD's rom I was just using I never went under 15, with my camera enabled. So I am thinking about flashing back, but I'm not completely sure. Maybe I'm missing something.
Showtime7 said:
OK so after running this ROM for a while I can see its mostly like the rest of the 6.5 roms I've tried. It started with the most available ram I've seen in a 6.5 rom but that is mainly due to the disabled camera. I start off at about 26mb free after flash, 23mb free on boot after installing all my apps and whatnot. Few hours later, I'm at 10-15mb free. I must be missing something here. No I don't use apps running in the background, yes I use hibernate every now and then. Still no use, I'm under 15mb free now without a camera. With DCD's rom I was just using I never went under 15, with my camera enabled. So I am thinking about flashing back, but I'm not completely sure. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Exactly what I experienced in the 6.5 ROMs I tried.
Hi!
I still have the stock-ROM on my TouchPro. There is a ROM-Update on the
HTC-website from the 2009-08-30. Is it already WM6.5 or just a different
update? If, what is the favorised custom ROM?
actual ROM:
ROM-Version: 1.90.407.4 GER
ROM-Date: 08/23/08
modem: 1.02.25.19
protocoll: 52.33.25.17U
Any help, please? :}
To be honest, I've tried in the last year almost all ROM's posted in this Raphael Forum.
My advise, if you need and use the PDA for normal business use stick with the Stock ROM, or upgrade to the latest 'official' posted in XDA-Wiki. If you don't mind your phone crashing or failing then try and 'play' with the ROM's available.
You and Chefs don't get me wrong, but the 6.5 and especially the Sense versions are far to unstable, though it shows what could be possible on these PDA's.
That doesn't sound really promising... hm.
The custom ROMs for the HTC TyTN did work good. Pity.
I'm curious for the 6.5-GUI, though.
At the moment I'm using the Iphone more often since I got
"tethering" working without the need of paying for it and
specially because the TouchPro-headset broke... Not
really a cheap replacement for it. The China-plagiats
suck... sound like crap.
personally the custom roms have worked great for me and are in general faster than the stock rom. unless u go sense or manila 2.5 whatever u want to call it, they are pretty stable too.
read the instructions on how to load the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
only thing i dont like about the guide, is the hard reset at stylus settings, because that prevents the rom from loading its software if it needs any. i just let it load whatever it wants.
and then try out TAEL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561158
or
Energy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751
both of these are my personal favorites and run like a charm. with a stock rom, the touch pro is a waste of hardware.
k.electron said:
personally the custom roms have worked great for me and are in general faster than the stock rom. unless u go sense or manila 2.5 whatever u want to call it, they are pretty stable too.
read the instructions on how to load the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
only thing i dont like about the guide, is the hard reset at stylus settings, because that prevents the rom from loading its software if it needs any. i just let it load whatever it wants.
and then try out TAEL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561158
or
Energy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751
both of these are my personal favorites and run like a charm. with a stock rom, the touch pro is a waste of hardware.
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I agree. The best thing you can do is to try a 6.5 21864 build. Those are stable and energyRoms are fast.
I use my phone for business. I have been using energy ROM's right from the time i got my touch pro.
i started with the roms from monx, after he stopped for a while, i used energyrom for a long time, and tried some other, but always came back to energy.
Well monx posted a couple of weeks ago a new 6.5 rom and i am using that rom, i always liked his roms.
and there is no official htc WM6.5 rom for the touch pro
just try some for yourself is my advice
I started off with RRE's ROMs but moved to Energy ROM's and have been very happy with both. If you stick to the more stable ones vs the beta ROMs then you'll be fine. I'm still running an Energy ROM from August but am finally gonna upgrade to the latest one.
6.5 21864 build. Those are stable and energyRoms are fast.
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I second this and use my phone for business and as GPS device when I'm on the road.
Delphi said:
Hi!
I still have the stock-ROM on my TouchPro. There is a ROM-Update on the
HTC-website from the 2009-08-30. Is it already WM6.5 or just a different
update? If, what is the favorised custom ROM?
actual ROM:
ROM-Version: 1.90.407.4 GER
ROM-Date: 08/23/08
modem: 1.02.25.19
protocoll: 52.33.25.17U
Any help, please? :}
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You should try the Stock ROM update on HTC ( and for the question NO OFFICIAL HTC TOUCH PRO updates have 6.5 they are all 6.1 )
You can flash the TAEL or the ENERGY or the CHROME or the EXQUISITE ROMs they are all very popular and mostly good.
You should just try one of them it just takes 15 to flash a ROM.
Read and follow the steps very carefully.
And remember you can always flash back to HTC STOCKs.
Usually the one on HTC site are more latest than the ones on WIKI.
Enjoy !
But you should have posted this in Raphael Questions and Answers thread not a new thread.
Next time be careful.
I went around flashing roms myself, always landed back on the latest stock rom because it works. I'll list the advantages and disadvantages I stumbled upon from my experiences.
Stock Rom
Advantages
- You know it will work right (for the most part).
- Peace of mind with the ROM
- Still customizable (I was able to install Manila 2.1 and it works very smoothly, the only problem I had was with Tachi dialer, which didn't work 100% on any rom I tried it on either (some bugs, like when I dialed a number it never showed the correct number on the screen, but it did dial the right contact number)).
Disadvantages
- You miss out on a lot of new things like, Manila 2.5, Ezinput 2, etc.
- Lack of support for 6.1 on XDA these days. I'm still having trouble finding 6.1 themes and Manila themes on here. Seems that has died down with the flood of Manila 2.1.
- It's still 6.1.
Cooked Roms
Advantages
- You get all the newest things; WinMo 6.5 + it's uh... more touch friendliness, Manila 2.5, etc.
- Tons of support on XDA these days.
Disadvantages
- Many bugs. Yes it they do work for the most part, but look at any cooked rom thread, and see how many people are posting problems, and look at how many updates are down to fix problems. Which brings me to my next point....
- You get into a flashing frenzy. You end up flashing more than using the roms you flash because of updates, and different rom offers.
- You're never sure what the experience is going to be on your phone till you try, so no real piece of mind. Some roms take a few days to really show that it might not be compatible with you, then you'll end up spending a ton of time finding another rom to try out.
- Never satisfied (ties in with flashing frenzy).
That's how it was for me. I toyed around with the stock Fuze rom, got it working to a point where I like it very much. I got Manila all nice using custimizer and some other mods. But really, I'm always tempted to flash to try out things like 2.5, because I want that Twitter Tab, or I want GPS weather of 2.1 (oh how I wish Tachi dialer just worked perfectly). But in the end I always go back to using the stock rom, because it just works well.
SDreamer said:
I went around flashing roms myself, always landed back on the latest stock rom because it works. I'll list the advantages and disadvantages I stumbled upon from my experiences.
Stock Rom
Advantages
- You know it will work right (for the most part).
- Peace of mind with the ROM
- Still customizable (I was able to install Manila 2.1 and it works very smoothly, the only problem I had was with Tachi dialer, which didn't work 100% on any rom I tried it on either (some bugs, like when I dialed a number it never showed the correct number on the screen, but it did dial the right contact number)).
Disadvantages
- You miss out on a lot of new things like, Manila 2.5, Ezinput 2, etc.
- Lack of support for 6.1 on XDA these days. I'm still having trouble finding 6.1 themes and Manila themes on here. Seems that has died down with the flood of Manila 2.1.
- It's still 6.1.
Cooked Roms
Advantages
- You get all the newest things; WinMo 6.5 + it's uh... more touch friendliness, Manila 2.5, etc.
- Tons of support on XDA these days.
Disadvantages
- Many bugs. Yes it they do work for the most part, but look at any cooked rom thread, and see how many people are posting problems, and look at how many updates are down to fix problems. Which brings me to my next point....
- You get into a flashing frenzy. You end up flashing more than using the roms you flash because of updates, and different rom offers.
- You're never sure what the experience is going to be on your phone till you try, so no real piece of mind. Some roms take a few days to really show that it might not be compatible with you, then you'll end up spending a ton of time finding another rom to try out.
- Never satisfied (ties in with flashing frenzy).
That's how it was for me. I toyed around with the stock Fuze rom, got it working to a point where I like it very much. I got Manila all nice using custimizer and some other mods. But really, I'm always tempted to flash to try out things like 2.5, because I want that Twitter Tab, or I want GPS weather of 2.1 (oh how I wish Tachi dialer just worked perfectly). But in the end I always go back to using the stock rom, because it just works well.
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Just a correction
The manila 2.1 or 2.5 DO NOT use GPS to find out weather on the current loaction they use location service which tracks down the area were the tower is located from where your phone is getting signals.
And PLEASE DO NOT say that all Custom ROMs have many bugs You have to chose the right build the right developer and the right ammount of things you do with it.
I can point out so many bugs present in stock ROM and the lack of things you can do.
And we all know that installing CABs for MODs and TWEAKS is nothing close to the performance they give when baked into the ROM.
They eat so much more CPU and Memory when installed separately !
Anyways OP its your choice but you should give it a try atleast
I require my phone for work and have found many of the cooked ROMs far MORE stable than the stock ones. The t-mobile (uk) stock ROM was awful. And I mean truly awful !!!
I use NRG ROMS. Ive not risked the Manilla 2.5 versions as yet (which NRG himself describes as beta !) but his other WM 6.5 are excellent.
I also use SPB mobile shell 3.5 which i think is great. sits over WM 6.5 very nicely and is fully customisable - especially with MSkips extras.
Just to reiterate what some of the other posters have said - the cooks here do a great deal of hard work - if you pick a ROM thats close to the cutting edge you may get bugs (and the chefs will warn you that) - but if you pick some of the more tried and tested branches the cooks have created some ROMs that are extremely stable !
I see.
Is there any (easy) way to make those ROMs german?
Comments on stock ROM and add languages:
Have to agree that most stock ROMs are sluggish and terrible. Even back at the Kaiser days none of the ATT ROMs was able to satisfy me.
Before you select a custom ROM R E A D what people say and what issues they have! Most issues are very specific and may not affect you at all.
Furthermore, for now, I would stay away from 6.5.1 and 6.5.3 ROMs (with the Windows buttons at the bottom). They are kinda beta and the VGA port of Manila 2.5 isn't perfect or good enough for daily use in my opinion. There are stable 6.5 ROMS with Manila 2.1 which can be used and IMHO all of them are faster and more stable as the stock or branded ROMS (I mean HTC or for example ATT modified ROMS).
As far as other languages go, Monx cooked some custom ROMS in the past in Dutch and German though his current ROMS are Manila 2.5 and new WinMo based (see my note above) and nothing for a ROM novice.
Without judgement NRG's 6.5 and Aruppenthals are a good start into custom ROMs, just look for WinMo 6.5 and Manila 2.1 versions.
Did one actually every try to set regional to i.e. German and see what happens? Look around for language packs as well.
List of ROMS I would suggest:
NRG "Photon" but only the 21864 built
Aruppenthals (though based on the newer WinMo version)
Note:
These are my PERSONAL suggestions and do not do any positive or negative justice to ANY other chef out there but in my PERSONAL opinion these are the easiest to handle for a new "flasher".
Hi all,
I am a techy at a large secondary school in the UK. In my wisdom I organised the rollout of 7 XDA Serra devices (O2 branded Raphael) to members of senior staff early this year. Now.... I have had no end of moaning about the appalling ROM O2 supplied, I have changed the radio version and disabled 3G to get 3 days+ from battery, where it was previously 1 day max, added slide-to-unlock and slide to answer.
However the handsets are still frankly rubbish. Crashing and freezing, especially when you try to use them as - god forbid - a phone.
I have two choices -
either find a really good stable and useable ROM (which I hope you can help with!) -Getting them all in for upgrade is the highest level of tedium, so if this is going to happen its going to be a one-shot thing. Gotta get it right first time. These people are middle-aged school workers so dont care about the bling, its gotta be easy to use.
or (the hard way) say they are "unfit for purpose" and try and send them back to O2 for something else.As much as I love fighting the big boys, I really cant be bothered. If they are going to be swapped theres only one handset the senior team would accept. iPhone. Yuk. (IMHO).
So - do you think I'm onto a loser to begin with? is this handset just a dog? It was so hyped at launch I didnt think I could go wrong.
or is it just the ROM? If just the ROM then what's the best ROM around that will tick all the right boxes?
In the meantime I'm off to play with my new HD2....
Thanks in advance.
if you want a simple rom, with smooth operation and good features, try TAEL standard edition. I can vouch for it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561158
o2 serra
The bad news....The rom supplied with the Serra is a dog (as you have probably learnt). Has problems 'sleeping' at night, is graphically horrible & freezes whenever challenged!
The good news... The device is a winner, all problems are software related, you have some re flashing to do & there are plenty to advise on simple stable rom's better than me.
Clearly with multiple devices & reflashing, you need to be aware of voiding your warranty. Dropped mine four foot onto slate floor & the screen started acting badly.... A freezer might come in handy.....Enjoying NRGZ Rom on a replaced device
Yeah I had figured the Serra ROM is a dog.Thanks for confirming that to me tho!
Your suggestion the hardware is a winner has given me some hope, so thanks.
I will test out the TAEL ROM and see how it fares.
In fact I think I was at one point using the TAEL ROM myself. (I couldnt stand the O2 ROM more than about a week)
If it passes my in-house testing (giving it to my boss for a bit - he's impartial) then I may try the rollout. See if I can fend off the iPhone wanters and their pitchforks.
Any other suggestions for ROMS welcome of course.......
cjwhite said:
... See if I can fend off the iPhone wanters and their pitchforks...
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iPhone, Blackberry, Nokia, Palm Pre! even!...
Usually, only the win32 centric IT type like the WinMo. You should have titled your post "Best device for simple folks"
Who's paying for that Leo?
Your prob right, but I got these at the start of this year, when the iPhone (IIRC) only just got exchange sync, and the pre was a distant dream. Plus half of the staff already had Windows PDA's. So I was thinking it would soften the learning curve.
You know what its like now - people act like children over bloody iPhones. I'm not an Apple hater but its horses for courses, iPhones and Macs fine as a choice for home users but not a business tool. Dont get me started on the iPod touch being described by apple as a "handheld learning device" to flog it to education! grrrrr.
And the Leo? I fought for two of them in place of two serras that developed faults cos there was no equivalent replacement.
Hmm, if you ask me, the best ROM that just works is EnergyROM (the most current one is Phoenix 2). From my experience, EnergyROM is very fast, very stable, and tends to be streamlined. In my opinion, this is probably the best ROM for simplicity.
Mind you, I'm not knocking Tael ROM. I tried the version with Sense 2.5 recently and I'm in love. It is shockingly fast and stable; much more so than any other ROMs with Sense 2.5 that I tried.
Simple ROM
If i were you id use Tael's rom... i used Energy ROM for about 7-8 months because it was eye candy and had a lot of apps i needed... its the best looking and most loaded ROM there is in this forum... but i made the switch because the battery didn last very long and i started gettin a lot of bugs after like a month of use... don know how it happened... Energy ROM is more for personal use and for showing off... (Dont get me wrong... i appreciate all the work NRGZ does and all the time he puts into his wonderful ROM)
I switched to Tael's ROM about like a month ago and it is the most stable ROM there is... during this whole month i didn have one problem with it. the ROM has only the most basic and useful applications... It also gives me a battery life of about 3 days on normal texting, bluetooth for like 5-6 hrs a day, phone usage of about 2 hrs of talk everyday and 3G on at all times! if i probably turn of the 3G, auto updates of some program, and stop using bluetooth... i would get atleast 4 days out of it! If u want a reliable ROM with almost all the functions of the phone, Tael's ROM is the best!
OK, so what about the best simple ROM for tilt, or both tilt and fuze?
I just picked up a Tilt and Fuze and would greatly appreciate advice as which best "simple" (=stable, easy install) ROM would be for each, please? And ideally, if there is a ROM which would cover both? (I'm on t-mo)
many thanks
Tilt, unlocked to T-mo
Fuze, unlocked to T-mo
sagarc88 said:
If i were you id use Tael's rom...
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Er, EnergyROM is the most loaded ROM? I think you're mistaken. That would probably be Chrome ROM (which even the author calls 'the Cadillac' of ROMs).
Your claims about battery life confuses me even more. I put my Fuze (with EnergyROM at the time) through a stress test and it lasted roughly 6-8 hours with constant Youtube, video playback, and 3G radio. I have not done the same for Tael ROM, but judging from usage, it would lastly roughly the same amount.
I'm not saying you were lying about your experience regarding EnergyROM, but I just wanted to put in that ER is definitely not as bad as you described.
i'm liking taels rom right now, it seems to be faster than the energy rom as i'm getting less hang ups while scrolling etc. battery lif is about two days with tael and about the same with energy, sending/receiving 300 txts a day and maybe a couple of phone calls...
I'm torn on this thread ...
... part of me feels it should remain open to allow the OP to obtain the information required to make an informed decision for his faculty users.
... and part of me feels it should be closed as these types of thread end up with posts full of emotionally charged opinions about chefs and their roms.
@cjwhite:
If the thread remains on topic and devoid of emotionally charged opnions, I'll leave it open. Once you have obtained all of the information required, please issue a request to have this thread closed.
I'd recommend that you stay away from any roms using the new office 2010. It's beta, and expires in 5-6 months. Since the phones aren't going to be updated frequently (hopefully never, I'm sure), you don't want any part of time-bombs. You might consider just flashing a stock HTC rom.
Farmer Ted said:
I'd recommend that you stay away from any roms using the new office 2010. It's beta, and expires in 5-6 months. Since the phones aren't going to be updated frequently (hopefully never, I'm sure), you don't want any part of time-bombs. You might consider just flashing a stock HTC rom.
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I agree. Just grab this ROM: http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=140&cat=2&dl_id=501 and you won't regret - it's bug-free, stable, fast enough.
Alternately, you can try shep's ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497699, but not the new version, because it's buggy. I recommend the "old" ROM (10. august), I used it for a month without problems, then I reverted to HTC latest primarily because I don't like 6.5 Start Menu.
8525Smart said:
Er, EnergyROM is the most loaded ROM? I think you're mistaken. That would probably be Chrome ROM (which even the author calls 'the Cadillac' of ROMs).
Your claims about battery life confuses me even more. I put my Fuze (with EnergyROM at the time) through a stress test and it lasted roughly 6-8 hours with constant Youtube, video playback, and 3G radio. I have not done the same for Tael ROM, but judging from usage, it would lastly roughly the same amount.
I'm not saying you were lying about your experience regarding EnergyROM, but I just wanted to put in that ER is definitely not as bad as you described.
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I'm a Chrome ROM lover, they are as loaded as NRGZ ROM.
Performance they both have their pros and cons.
For the ROM your looking i would suggest nothing but Timolol's ROM.
They are so fast and So basic.
As basic as stock with no extra apps.
They don't have a manila version hece only the simple titanium to use.
They are on a old build which is very stable.
Though i would never use such a bland ROm but for the people for whom you are going to Flash the ROM this is the Best ROM.
Give it a try.
It is really Light !
Timolol's ROM
Even the chef calls it "Stock like ROM"
Hi everyone.
There was a worrying moment where I thought we were going all emotional!
Mind you its the varied opinions that make this place so interesting.
I'm really grateful to all of you for your effort in replying.
I think the bottom line is I need a ROM for "someone who has never been on XDA-Dev".
I'm going to try Tael's latest ROM as I've personally found it solid enough in the past, and the feeling I'm getting from you is that it is pretty well liked.
I do however like the idea of a stock ROM. What would they be missing out on by using the stock HTC ROM? Anything a normal person would miss?
Cheers
Chris
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I do however like the idea of a stock ROM. What would they be missing out on by using the stock HTC ROM? Anything a normal person would miss?
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Nothing really important. On stock ROM there is an older Manila build, that's maybe the most important thing, also cooked ROMs are often loaded with apps. But, stock HTC ROM has one big advantage over all cooked ROMs - absolutely everything is working, and that's not the case with cooked ROMs - there's always something wrong, missing from ROM etc. For example, on most cooked ROMs (OS 6.5) you will find that video call doesn't work, if it works there are some other bugs with the dialer, such as non-working USSD codes or inability to answer calls (not chef's mistake, just dialers ported from other devices do not work 100%). Then there are some other problems - on one ROM MMS ain't working, on the other battery is pathetic, or the phone is very slow and buggy due to the use of Sense (Manila) 2.5 etc. You get the point - if you choose cooked ROM, there will always be something that isn't working, question is - do you (your workers) need those non-working functions.
Well...... I just flashed TAEL standard ROM."launch browser" button not working on internet tab.
@pilgrim011 - Perhaps your right!
cjwhite said:
Well...... I just flashed TAEL standard ROM."launch browser" button not working on internet tab.
@pilgrim011 - Perhaps your right!
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Did you try the timolol's ROM.
Everything is working on that !
You must give it a try.