I figured I'd make this its own thread after speaking with several people with the same problems using a CMOD 5.0.5.3+ rom. This wasn't a problem in lower editions from what I can remember in testing.
Idk but I believe it is something in the kernel affecting this problem with the display hogging my battery. Even after flashing an undervolted kernel I still can only last 24 hours with an extended life battery, vs a weeks time before. And the display problem has been like this in all CMODS test .6 Roms as well so idk if it is in the process of getting fixed or simply overlooked. And other Rome work well but are slower it seams.
The display settings doesn't matter auto or manual its about the same. So devs what can we do to find the change or what can I do to help?
-charlie
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dahui9 said:
I figured I'd make this its own thread after speaking with several people with the same problems using a CMOD 5.0.5.3+ rom. This wasn't a problem in lower editions from what I can remember in testing.
Idk but I believe it is something in the kernel affecting this problem with the display hogging my battery. Even after flashing an undervolted kernel I still can only last 24 hours with an extended life battery, vs a weeks time before. And the display problem has been like this in all CMODS test .6 Roms as well so idk if it is in the process of getting fixed or simply overlooked. And other Rome work well but are slower it seams.
The display settings doesn't matter auto or manual its about the same. So devs what can we do to find the change or what can I do to help?
-charlie
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I'm running test 3 of 5.0.6. Today i read a book with fbreader for around 2hrs on it whilst on the train, had 2 30 minute phone conversations, around 20 texts, a dozen gtalk messages, and played blackjack for about 20 mins. i'm also using pershoots OCUV kernal, and after 11hrs without being plugged in I am at 75% battery. I'm happy with that.
I think it is a work in progress, as each new build comes out it's better. His testing builds are just that - testing. None of his release builds I have ever had an issue with either, although maybe my phone ue is a lot less than others I dunno. All i can say is i've never been tempted with another rom since early days on my magic phone Cyanogen rocks!
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I'm running test 3 of 5.0.6. Today i read a book with fbreader for around 2hrs on it whilst on the train, had 2 30 minute phone conversations, around 20 texts, a dozen gtalk messages, and played blackjack for about 20 mins. i'm also using pershoots OCUV kernal, and after 11hrs without being plugged in I am at 75% battery. I'm happy with that.
I think it is a work in progress, as each new build comes out it's better. His testing builds are just that - testing. None of his release builds I have ever had an issue with either, although maybe my phone ue is a lot less than others I dunno. All i can say is i've never been tempted with another rom since early days on my magic phone Cyanogen rocks!
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That's awesome. Are you turning the LCD light all the way down?
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That's awesome. Are you turning the LCD light all the way down?
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A week? My Nexus couldn't get more than two days or so brand new... Also, what LCD?
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That's awesome. Are you turning the LCD light all the way down?
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Nope, I have it on auto-detect, so quite bright when on the train and outdoors. I have setCPU (market, paid) running and set battery profiles - although I haven't hit them yet. I have it set to max 1.1ghz 100% to 50%, 998mhz from 50% to 40%, 776mhz from 40% to 30%, and under 30% to 500 and something.
I do use an app called autostarts (market, paid) and have set everything but system services/apps to not run on any kind of state change or startup. I use Advanced Task Killer to kill apps as soon as I finish with them.
But i've had all these for ages, I just think a big improvement on the last release test 3
Nandroid your existing and try out test3.
I've been experiencing the same symptoms with my battery usage generally dominated by the display. I'm using a UV kernel currently (intersectravens) so we will see if the same happens.
KingKlicks's DESIRE rom doesnt have the same problem it seems and the battery usage is much better.
Wondering if there is a underlying issue.
after .6 test 3 the battery has improved decently, still the display is hogging battery life more so than in the sense rom
Same thing here... Display totally kills the battery with CM5.0.5.3 and OC/UV kernel. Phone rarely lasts over a day with moderate to low usage...
Without usage I can barely get a days use :s
I get the impression that its not the display. I can have 50% display usage, sleep my phone while playing a MP3 and then have more than 50% usage... suggesting that its either he display+something in one category , or there is a bug.
The stock ROM always showed display at the highest usage also. I'm not saying that there isn't an issue, but remember that those numbers are all relative.
I'll say this: I charge nightly to prevent my battery "deep cycling"....That being said I un-plug at 8am and plug-in at about 11p-12a, I use my phone a TON.....usually when I plug in I have about 45-55%.....Not bad at all.....
I originally thought display being the main battery hog was a bad thing.....Then I thought about it a bit......
Would you rather the "system" use more batt? Cell Stand by?
Display (by all rights) should use most battery. More usage=Less time with a fully charged battery.....
Im using CM 5.0.5.3 and I switched Roms after using the stock for 3 months. As soon as I moved to CM I immediatly noticed the battery life was lower than before. I hope you find an issue to this problem ASAP.......I love your ROMs CM, but I love my battery life even more
Good luck with this !!
"display" = gpu acceleration and actual amoled power
Something else i just noticed, very odd. I had 41% display and 23% spotify.... i had been playing for music for a while (offline only). When i quit the spotify app... the entry from the battery usage vanished and display took a spike to 65% ish... really odd. Almost display is showing usage for a group of things.
What? How ? I get 6 hours maybe 7 if I'm lucky out of my battery.... even b4 my nexus was rooted ... how r u guys gettin 24
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What? How ? I get 6 hours maybe 7 if I'm lucky out of my battery.... even b4 my nexus was rooted ... how r u guys gettin 24
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Ignore any figures people quote - battery life is always relative. One persons 'usual' usage is different than yours. A friend of mine brings his N1 to works and it sits on his desk syncing email - he gets 1 full day.
I bring mine, sync 2 accounts, play a lot of podcasts, have a RSS syncer going and use twitter and FB loads, i get a LOT less.
Dont worry to much, your usage figures are pretty normal depending on your usage patterns.
They say your mileage may vary for a reason
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My Battery life has always sucked. Maybe I should buy a new Battery?
If I take my phone off the charger at 7:30, and don't plug it in all day, then I will be at about 30% or less by the time I get home at around 5:30. Unless I don't use it. But I use my phone to play stream music pretty much all day. Or at least 4 hours. One day I forgot my USB cable and I was below 20% by 3:00.
It is still better than iSuck, I mean iPhone, and worse than a BlackBerry. I have electricity everywhere though, a car charger, and an extra battery is like 25$?
So what is the big deal? You have the equivalent of a desktop computer from like 2002 in your pocked running off of a batter the size of a credit card, how long do you really want the thing to last anyway?
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I'm trying to find out how lots are getting great battery life on roms and kernels that I get terrible or ok battery life. ex. Simply Honey with talon gave me the best bettery life out of any rom or kernel, but unfortunately that rom was not stable on my phone.
So what are some thing you do, and be kinda specific, like if you undervolt how much, and on what frequencies did you do what. Also helpful to include ROM and Kernel you use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389069
Check there.
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AHHH I knew that page would come up. I've probably done most of the tips and tricks and what nots what tos, but still get less than I should. That's why i want to know what everyone else is doing because I still can't get good battery life and simply honey is the only rom I got at least 20 hours, and that's without doing anything to save battery. I know there's more than what the guide has, and probably more difficult ways but I'm beyond the difficulty at this point, nothing is too difficult anymore.
My setup is toxic 8 with Bali 1.8.8 UV along with juice defender. With that and the extended battery I am able to watch a 2 hour movie using TV out and my battery only uses about 10 to 15%. I've never seen such good life until I started this rom/kernel. Now every time I try anything else I always go back to it. then with juice defender added too it it seems to last forever, if I didn't use mine so heavily I could easily get 3 days on it. My brightness is always set at max too. When I used to have my phone at stock I couldn't even last 5 hours with how I used it, after those few things I get 15+ easy every day.
Hell, I remember not even having my old flip phones being able to last as long as my vibrant does now.
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My setup is toxic 8 with Bali 1.8.8 UV along with juice defender. With that and the extended battery I am able to watch a 2 hour movie using TV out and my battery only uses about 10 to 15%. I've never seen such good life until I started this rom/kernel. Now every time I try anything else I always go back to it. then with juice defender added too it it seems to last forever, if I didn't use mine so heavily I could easily get 3 days on it. My brightness is always set at max too. When I used to have my phone at stock I couldn't even last 5 hours with how I used it, after those few things I get 15+ easy every day.
Hell, I remember not even having my old flip phones being able to last as long as my vibrant does now.
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See that's the one that gets me the most Bali, everyone says they get great life and that's the one i get the worst. I even undervolted -75mv on 1ghz and 100mv on the rest down, used only network data, auto brightness (love it) etc. and just barely using it maybe 1 hour of talk and 2 hours of music through speaker dead in another 3 or 4 just sitting there. Now i didn't know about juice defender before and I'm trying that now. I'm on ICS Passion 10.6 now was on D9 and Toxic8. I get a little better battery on passion over D9 or toxic8 but maybe and hour more.
Which profile do you use in juice defender? Don't see so far any improvement on balanced.
Juice Defender itself works great but if you really want to see what it does pay for the Plus (Ultimate has more features that the Vibrant just doesn't have, so no point in buying that unless you are moving on to a new phone someday).
One of the features of JD+ is that you can configure it on an app to app basis. So if your screen is locked it will kill something like Wootwatcher.apk but not Pandora b/c you presumably are listening to it. No need for Wootwatcher to be running all day long, they only update it once a day, know what I mean.
Another thing is what IS running in the background? You can use the BetterBatteryStats. It will show you what and when and how long.
Yesterday I pushed it to 33hours with moderate use (don't forget I do sleep too). Heavy would be much lower but I've been busy at work so moderate was all she got. One of the features of JD+ is that you can kill the radio/data from x time to x time. I have mine set from 12-6am (but it you are using it in those times, user takes priority). I don't need to be sending data while I am asleep now do I.
Flashing ROMs a lot also kills battery but T8 and D9 are my home ROMs too.
Edit:: Maybe I should elaborate on the 33hours. Unplugged at around 630a Monday, Music on the way to work. About 20 texts and 5-10 calls, XDA app, Music for about 8+hours Monday and first half of Tuesday, some games here and there (Reckless Getaway, Scrabble, kids played some drawing games), some browsing, started a movie but got sidetracked (about 1hr's worth) and finally plugged in at around 330p on Tuesday. So that isn't heavy but it also wasn't just sitting on my desk either.
I read somewhere (probably androidcentral post) that @ night or whenever your phone is idle, if there is a wifi signal around... turn ur wifi on. For background data stuff that's running, this actually uses less battery than if you let your phone's data do these tasks!
Well to day I tried juice defender plus in my daily routine......... huuuuuuh but then I drop my phone and broke the glass screen. Everything else work my battery did get much better but I didn't really use it as hard as normal, mostly cause I sat outside in parking lot for 2hrs waiting to get in store for work, so can't really say its doubled for sure but 13hrs is much more reasonable. Did update kernel and calibrate battery yesterday. Might have had something to do with it. Gonna try some undervolting see what I can do there.
As for wifi, it's actually worse than network data, especially when its idle. I always keep wifi off unless I'm watching a video or dl'ing a large file, just too power hungry.
There's been mixed reviews of battery life in the CM7 rom for the NT as far as battery life is concerned, some are saying they've run it with moderate use since the day it was released and only used about 20 - 30% so far while others are saying battery life is terrible.
SO I thought I'd start a little poll to see what people are getting, I'm guess the battery drain is due to various software being installed so not really the OS's fault.
For me the Battery life is greatly improved over stock, for instance I took it of charge 10 hours ago, it's admittedly only been used for a few minute son and of during those 10 hours but it's lost the grand total of 4% battery in those 10 hours which I consider pretty good really.
Soi lets here what everyone thinks, remember to vote !
Battery life - improved
This is my third day on the CM7 alpha - battery life has been much better than before. Considering I have probably spent more time with the NT turned on over the last couple of days than I normally would, the battery used is less than normal. Previously I would use about 60% of my battery per day. Now I am using 30%-40% - and that includes downloading and configuring many, many applications.
I really think its much better than stock in my cm7 nt
No problems here. Take off charge around 6am and return to charge around 10pm with usually more than 80% left depending on usage.
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I don't think mine has been on a charger for the last 16 hours or so, light usage, wireless has been off most of the time, and I use a task killer to kill things before I turn off the screen. Didn't power off, just put to sleep last night before bed, it's still at like 85%.
So far, it seems better than stock battery life to me, or at least no worse, and I have a lot more apps installed now.
Edit: Internal version.
It might help if folks said if they were running off SD card or internal memory when looking at battery life - I have the impression that the SD card reader on the NT is something of a battery vampire.
Internal CM7 since it was released.
Live wallpaper on Golauncher
wifi set to screen off-off
Brightness at about 60-65%
It's been off of charge for 4 hours 21 minutes this morning and I'm at 96%
Dolphin HD and Gmail have been running all that time.
Hasn't been out for long enough to really tell but my impression is that it's about the same as stock.
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Odd. Is that your aforementioned case with lots of standby? On my Vibrant, the Screen bar generally dwarfs all other bars even with significant standby time. Granted that's an apples-to-oranges comparison... (I don't have CM7 on my Nook Tablet yet - can't do a comparison between stock B&N and my Vibrant at the moment.)
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Odd. Is that your aforementioned case with lots of standby? On my Vibrant, the Screen bar generally dwarfs all other bars even with significant standby time. Granted that's an apples-to-oranges comparison... (I don't have CM7 on my Nook Tablet yet - can't do a comparison between stock B&N and my Vibrant at the moment.)
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Yes. I don't really know what "standby" means. This use was about 40 minutes of checking email, weather news and etc followed by About 2 hours with the screen off then an hour of dinking around. Watched all the superbowl commercials, staying up on XDA and other forums with Tapatalk and learning things in CM7. I'd describe this as light use bordering on moderate.
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Yes. I don't really know what "standby" means. This use was about 40 minutes of checking email, weather news and etc followed by About 2 hours with the screen off then an hour of dinking around. Watched all the superbowl commercials, staying up on XDA and other forums with Tapatalk and learning things in CM7. I'd describe this as light use bordering on moderate.
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Watching video or playing games can be quite intensive. Flash is probably the most intensive for video playing.
Keep a good eye in it over the next few days then cone back and post if you've noticed anything that makes it better or worse with battery life
Last I checked mine was going on 18 hours and at about 40%
One thing I noticed is that the charger for my Moto phone doesn't seem to charge the nook as well as the nook charger. I'll have to look at the nook wall wart and see if it's pumping out more juice. For reference the Moto charger is only 4.33W (5.1V at 850mA).
The nook charger is a 1.8amp charger
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Watching video or playing games can be quite intensive. Flash is probably the most intensive for video playing.
Keep a good eye in it over the next few days then cone back and post if you've noticed anything that makes it better or worse with battery life
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Will do.
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Last I checked mine was going on 18 hours and at about 40%
One thing I noticed is that the charger for my Moto phone doesn't seem to charge the nook as well as the nook charger. I'll have to look at the nook wall wart and see if it's pumping out more juice. For reference the Moto charger is only 4.33W (5.1V at 850mA).
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What kind of usage? Low, high, moderate? Just curious because my wife and I do a decent amount of Netflix (1-2 hours a day) and I don't have to charge more than every 3 days. This is with 1.4.0 rooted. I've been exceptionally pleased with that - power consumption in standby seems to be incredibly miserly with stock (most likely due to WiFi being turned off when the system is in standby).
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Ahh. That explains a lot. Looks like I should pack that in my bag rather than my Moto charger. I wonder if it'll charge my phone faster?
On the subject of the battery, I posted about an issue I encountered last night, here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22261812
Additional information: At the time, I was fooling around with a playstation emulator, which i'm fairly sure constitutes a heavy drain on system resources. Battery drain seemed appropriate for the level of activity.
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Internal install, wifi off during sleep. Figure the end of the graph was about 19-20 hours or so of sleep. Before that was a constant internet, twitter, WWF session. Screen brightness is in the bottom 1/3rd of the slider.
I am going to beat the hell out of it tonight and will see how the battery holds up. Looks pretty solid just sleeping, so we will see what it can do under load.
So found that if your wireless location is turned on, it will wake your NT about every 5 minuetes. That's not a good thing
If anyone is seeing drains, i suggest using betterbatterystats to help track down the culprit.
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So Im getting horrible battery life with this now. Not really sure whats going on. I use to be able to leave my nook on standby for days and last night it was at about 30% woke up this morning and it was completely dead...
First of all, let me say thanks to Scott for all of his work on CleanRom. I know there has been a lot of discussion lately in his thread about battery usage. Some people are getting outstanding battery life and some people can't make it more than a few hours. I have been one of the people that can't make it more than a few hours no matter what I do. I did a clean wipe of everything before installing the ROM and have even tried to reinstall. The odd thing is my wife's phone does fantastic with this ROM. I finally decided to test things side by side lastnight. My phone should have had the clear advantage because I turned off all syncing options and froze any apps that had been downloaded just to make sure there was nothing running. Meanwhile, her phone syncs like crazy to facebook, email, etc and also has various apps running like weatherbug. I let them both sit overnight and after ~9hrs here are the stats I measured:
Battery % left : 79% (mine) vs 88% (hers)
Data used overnight: 75kb (mine) vs 744kb (hers)
Time awake: 3min 32sec (mine) vs 9 min 42sec (hers)
Time in Deep Sleep: 9hr 19mins (mine) vs 9hr 6min (hers)
Everything points to the fact that I should easily have more life left than hers. I am also attaching a couple of screenshots and the betterbatterystats files to this post. Maybe we can track down why everyone's battery life is so different. Tonight I plan to swap batterys between the phones to try to determine if my battery is the problem.
wow that's pretty good on your wife's phone but horrible for yours especially considering you turned off syncing.
I agree. I have no doubt that her phone could easily still be at 95% or more if I made all of the same adjustments to hers as I did to mine. That is why I am hoping someone on here with more knowledge about this stuff can help to determine what is going on.
It honestly might just be a faulty battery, I was having similar results with mine and my friend's phone, too. I tried multiple ROMs, Kernels, etc. But it slowly got worse and worse to the point that I would go down from 100% to 60% in little over an hour, doing nothing but listening to music with the screen off and auto-sync etc off. I bought a replacement battery, though. And this one is working just fine. You might just be having bad battery luck, or it might be your device, I know some people have returned their Rezounds because of battery life/heat problems, and the replacement generally fixes their woes.
so what did your betterybattery stats report?
Thanks for running this test. It would be very helpful to everyone if you could pinpoint this to a battery difference and I'm waiting to hear your results after the battery swap.
What helped my battery life most was to uncheck the box under "settings -> applications -> start automatically" It has something to do with a task manager. It probably wouldn't explain why your wife's phone does better but it could help both of you get better battery life.
bik- The betterbatterystats file is attached. I see a lot of activity on her phone but very little for mine. The only thing that stands out to me is I have alarmmanager waking my phone for 10 mins and she had it waking hers for only 5 mins. I am not sure exactly what alarmmanager is though.
HTGaming- Thank you for the suggestion but I have already done that as well. I think I have literally turned off everything possible on this phone because it is driving me nuts to burn through battery like this. My OG droid used to us 30% in a day max and now I burn through that in an hour if I am using the phone for anything at all. Pretty much the only thing I had running on the phone lastnight was 4g service which her phone also had.
Another thing you can do to compare the two phones is to install battery monitor widget to see what the drain is on the phones. I used to have decent battery life but ever since the update, it's been worse. The one thing I noticed is that now my phone draws more current when sleeping than it used to. The drain is consistently close to 300ma, whereas before it would be less than 200ma when sleeping.
You have to have the widget on for the monitoring to be active unless you change the preferences.
I swapped the battery's lastnight and here's the results. Hers is still clearly better than mine even though betterbatterystats shows way more activity on her phone again.
Battery % left : 84% (mine) vs 90% (hers)
Data used overnight: 279kb (mine) vs 498kb (hers)
Time awake: 5min 32sec (mine) vs 12 min 8sec (hers)
Time in Deep Sleep: 7hr 58mins (mine) vs 7hr 59min (hers)
Someone posted that they saw different PRIs on phones even after the OTA. Do your two phones have the same PRIs?
damnn thats just weird
Im starting to think that some Rezound batches are differently tweaked than others. My first Rezound had great battery, I would stream music for 5-6 hours on 4G and would still be above 60%. My last two however were completely horrible, on 4-5 hours standby it losses closed to 20% with lil to no use. Same settings/apps as my first Rez. I regret returning my first Rezound, it truly was the perfect phone.
There really has to be a reason why some come with a 3.8 V bat. opposed to a 3.7 V. HTC wouldn't just send out two different types of battery for no reason.
You are missing 1 key info in your analysis, which people always seem to leave out when talking about battery life. The screen on time. I see in in the graphs but it's hard to tell the exact number. Because of the 720p screen on our phones, that makes a big difference. When my screen is on, the phone uses up at least 600 ma/hr. That is conservative, usually it is more like 700-800. We'll assume 600 for now. That's 10 ma/minute. Based on the stock battery, that is 0.6% per minute. So having a difference in screen on time of 10 minutes will give you 6% difference in battery life.
i am also unable to go for even most of a day on one battery charge - and i have 3 extra batteries that were from ebay that dont work even that long...
i do notice it when the screen is on the most - yest i used the gps for an hour and a hlaf without plugging the phone in and my battery lasted about 3 hours after that and died....
very bad....
very interested to see if its the phone or not - great work...
I'll try to answer a couple of questions in here. I got very frustrated yesterday so I flashed an ICS rom to see how my phone did with it. It is equally as bad. This morning, I got into work with 97% life, checked my email for about 2 mins and was already down to 90%. I have the screen display set to 30% brightness too. I am amazed that people can used 2-3 hours of display and still have 70% battery after 10 hours. My screen at 30% brightness probably drains 2% per minute. I think tonight I am going to try to install one of the stock RUU's just to check and see if the OTA upgrade possibly didn't install itself correctly.
HTGaming - I will check the PRI's tonight.
Bluesnake - Both phones were purchased the same day so I would guess they are from similar if not the same batch. Both have 3.7 batteries. Infact when I first got my phone, I could have display on auto, sync everything every half hour, use the screen for random browsing throughout the day and still go home with over 70% left. Somewhere along the line my phone has developed some sort of draining problem though and no amounts of clean installs seem to fix it.
b5fan - Both phones were off the entire night. I think screen usage was maybe 10 seconds for both of them. They literally just sat there on the nightstand while we slept and mine drained 2x faster with nothing running while hers ran facebook, email etc.
I checked the PRI on both phones and they are the same. I re-ran the stock RUU tonight so I will see if that makes any difference. I highly doubt it will but I am running out of ideas.
I guess I was thrown by the screen shots. They both show some noticeable screen time.
the only other thing I could think to check is the email type, push versus pull, and the frequency.
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I guess I was thrown by the screen shots. They both show some noticeable screen time.
the only other thing I could think to check is the email type, push versus pull, and the frequency.
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The screen time was probably just from me getting all of the data off in the morning like the screenshots and battery stats. Her email was on push and my email was set to not sync at all. Basically she had a fully functional phone and mine was set to do nothing which is why the battery drain is so hard to explain.
I did run the stock RUU image lastnight for my phone. I put it in airplane mode overnight and it was at 97% when I got up which is a huge improvement. I took it off airplane mode at 6am today and when I got to work at 7am, it was down to 90% so I guess I am in wait and see mode now. I have no email accounts/facebook accounts/ or anything else setup right now. It is only the stock image so there should be nothing draining battery today.
I can confirm the phone is no better now after the clean RUU install. Let it sit overnight and it was down to 80% this morning. I did not even setup any email accounts or download any apps yet. This is just the stock image from verizon.
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This is my first post, so let's hope I've gotten it right and am abiding by all the rules and the n00b video. And yes I did search for a good 10 minutes about batterylife and battery before posting and didn't find anything relevant.
I've recently swapped over from Apple iPhone and I'm now very much enjoying being on Android. However batterylife is a big concern for me, as on iPhone I could go 2-3 days without charging and now I can barely make it home from work and I definately have to plug it in before dinner. And yes this is with me closing down applications, wifi when not used, bluetooth when not used, running latest kies released PHONE:LFB firmware and so on.
So my question is... how is your batterylife after having rooted and installed a custom rom? The one I'm thinking mostly about using is definately the new Preview 3 (or perhaps wait for 4 or 5) of CM10, that XpLoDWilD is working on. Does anyone have any experience with the batterylife before and after?
Thanks a lot for any help you can provide! :highfive:
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This is my first post, so let's hope I've gotten it right and am abiding by all the rules and the n00b video. And yes I did search for a good 10 minutes about batterylife and battery before posting and didn't find anything relevant.
I've recently swapped over from Apple iPhone and I'm now very much enjoying being on Android. However batterylife is a big concern for me, as on iPhone I could go 2-3 days without charging and now I can barely make it home from work and I definately have to plug it in before dinner. And yes this is with me closing down applications, wifi when not used, bluetooth when not used, running latest kies released PHONE:LFB firmware and so on.
So my question is... how is your batterylife after having rooted and installed a custom rom? The one I'm thinking mostly about using is definately the new Preview 3 (or perhaps wait for 4 or 5) of CM10, that XpLoDWilD is working on. Does anyone have any experience with the batterylife before and after?
Thanks a lot for any help you can provide! :highfive:
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That's very weird. Are you international or a US S3? I easily get 3 days battery, very easily. Perhaps try turning off useless stuff like bluetooth, gps, wifi, etc when you're not using them. Turn off push email and other useless crap. See how it goes then?
I still have the stock ROM, usually 3.5 days battery before it gets to 10% and i charge. I'm going to go to OMEGA rom soon though.
I have tried almost all custom roms out there. And I can easily say the battery life is not any better if not worse on custom roms.
Stick with the stock rom. I would however recommend flashing a custom kernel like speedmod or phenomenal. They definitely give you that extra juice you need at the end of the day. The idle time and screen time has increased for me 10 to 20 % compared to stock.
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danben7 said:
That's very weird. Are you international or a US S3? I easily get 3 days battery, very easily. Perhaps try turning off useless stuff like bluetooth, gps, wifi, etc when you're not using them. Turn off push email and other useless crap. See how it goes then?
I still have the stock ROM, usually 3.5 days battery before it gets to 10% and i charge. I'm going to go to OMEGA rom soon though.
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I'm using the international version. I did turn off bluetooth and wifi, but not gps. Will try that aswell. I have manuel mail check every 1 hour, but will try to set it to 4 hours.
However from what I read in the reviews on GSMarena and other sites, it's quite normal to only get 1 day worth of battery.
Description of a pretty basic day with the Galaxy S3:
I usually unplug mine at 6 am, with wifi and bluetooth off and screen always on auto brigthness. Then at 7 am i turn on bluetooth for my earphones and bike to the train station and browse the web and such for about 45 minutes in the train. When I arrive at work it's usually around 80% battery and I turn off bluetooth. Then I'm at work from 8 am to 4 pm and check mails, texts, calendar and possibly make 1 or 2 short phone calls. At 4 pm I think the battery is often around 40-50%. Then again on the ride home I use the same, so it's usually around 20-30% when I come home. I then usually turn on wifi and play a couple of games, or watch some Netflix on it while I'm doing some other stuff or attach it to my stereo and play so music from Spotify on it. At 6-7 pm it's usually beeping at the 5, 10 or 15% marker for more power and wants me to plug it in to a power source. If I try to wait till I go to bed, I usually end up having it automatically shut down from lack of power.
I'm wondering if this seems normal or if perhaps my battery is faulty. From the review at GSMarena it seems quite normal and that's just the way Android is. They even gave it a good battery rating inspite of saying that it would only last them a day.
uronfire said:
I have tried almost all custom roms out there. And I can easily say the battery life is not any better if not worse on custom roms.
Stick with the stock rom. I would however recommend flashing a custom kernel like speedmod or phenomenal. They definitely give you that extra juice you need at the end of the day. The idle time and screen time has increased for me 10 to 20 % compared to stock.
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Okay, thank you for your reply
it all depends on the usage i have an iphone 4 as well and i have to charge it by the end of the day (at 10pm). So it dpends on what you do with your phone if you use 3g all the time thats not gonna last long if you have syncing on all the time and gps that wont help...if you just let it idle then you can get 3 days uptime with maybe 1 hour screen time.
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I'm using the international version. I did turn off bluetooth and wifi, but not gps. Will try that aswell. I have manuel mail check every 1 hour, but will try to set it to 4 hours.
However from what I read in the reviews on GSMarena and other sites, it's quite normal to only get 1 day worth of battery.
Description of a pretty basic day with the Galaxy S3:
I usually unplug mine at 6 am, with wifi and bluetooth off and screen always on auto brigthness. Then at 7 am i turn on bluetooth for my earphones and bike to the train station and browse the web and such for about 45 minutes in the train. When I arrive at work it's usually around 80% battery and I turn off bluetooth. Then I'm at work from 8 am to 4 pm and check mails, texts, calendar and possibly make 1 or 2 short phone calls. At 4 pm I think the battery is often around 40-50%. Then again on the ride home I use the same, so it's usually around 20-30% when I come home. I then usually turn on wifi and play a couple of games, or watch some Netflix on it while I'm doing some other stuff or attach it to my stereo and play so music from Spotify on it. At 6-7 pm it's usually beeping at the 5, 10 or 15% marker for more power and wants me to plug it in to a power source. If I try to wait till I go to bed, I usually end up having it automatically shut down from lack of power.
I'm wondering if this seems normal or if perhaps my battery is faulty. From the review at GSMarena it seems quite normal and that's just the way Android is. They even gave it a good battery rating inspite of saying that it would only last them a day.
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My basic day is charge the phone at around 8pm, unplug at 10pm. I never charge overnight it's pointless (not that i think it'll hurt it). Wake up battery is usually around 95% after my alarm goes off. Brightness is about 60%. I don't browse the web very much, and I don't play many games, let's say 1 hour of web and 1 hour of games/videos/music per day. Maybe 1 hour of maps too. Mostly though, I text message and phone call.
I don't think yours is faulty, i think it's quite normal, it seems like you're a heavy user, I'm a light user. If I used my phone as heavily as you did i'd be happy with 1 day of battery.
One day of charge (the battery being at 20-40% at the end of the day depending on the usage) is quite normal.
I've found CM9 with Siyah to give the best standby battery (1-2% drain per hour with 3G and Sync enabled) since it's very lightweight and has no battery-draining bloatware other than what you install.
CM10 is still too new and unfinished to be battery-friendly, it's not that bad though.
However sometimes it will chew the battery for no freaking reason (at least I cannot found any) and the CM9/CM10 stock kernel is not that battery-friendly on active usage. No Siyah yet =(
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best standby battery (1-2% drain per hour with 3G and Sync enabled) (
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No way is that good man, that means that if you leave it on standby alone you lose 25% per day. 0.5% per hour would be good/normal IMO.
Am envious to those who managed to use their phone for more than a day. I bought this phone for about 2 weeks now and have done the normal full charge for 8 hours on the first time. Since then, I have fully charged twice and let the battery gone flat once. I have flashed Neutrino rom and currently Latveyit rom, and the battery last best 12 hours so far.
I charged the phone to 94% at about 7pm and just made two calls and two text messages. I did a navigation on maps for about 15mins max. By about 11pm, battery is at 57%, I play some games for about 10mins and went to bed, in the morning it's about 35%. I realise that the first 50% really goes fast and after that it's pretty decent until less than 20% and it drains fast again. Background application I have are the normal chat programs, whatsapp, viber, kakaotalk, skype and ebuddy. I have waze running in the background although I think it shuts off after 15mins. I have a mix of wifi and 3g usage, usually on wifi though. Is this normal?
edit: I also have Lookout antivirus running
All your chat programs running in the back ground prevent your device to sleep correctly, they wake it up every time they check if there is a new message.
Try to keep only the apps you use and try for each app to increase the check delay or disable it.
The antivirus does help.
2 weeks is a bit early to make a comment about the battery.
Download Battericalibration from the market and use it every shift rom change.
Read about topic on the forum but not become a maniac in "battery life".
If the screen stays lit for 5-7 hours the battery will be empty in like 7-8 hours. If you only speak 1 hour at it the battery will be empty in 3 days.
All depends on how you use it!
Sorry for bad english.
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clod007 said:
2 weeks is a bit early to make a comment about the battery.
Download Battericalibration from the market and use it every shift rom change.
Read about topic on the forum but not become a maniac in "battery life".
If the screen stays lit for 5-7 hours the battery will be empty in like 7-8 hours. If you only speak 1 hour at it the battery will be empty in 3 days.
All depends on how you use it!
Sorry for bad english.
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I thought that the chat programs will only cause problems if there are frequent messages since they're base on push?
2 weeks is early? How does that affect the battery's performance? I thought when it's new, it's most optimum and slowly degrades through time? The screen was off most of the time unless I was doing anything I mentioned or just checking the time which is just on, check then off. I don't think I am paranoid over the battery life, just curious how to get it over a day.
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I thought that the chat programs will only cause problems if there are frequent messages since they're base on push?
2 weeks is early? How does that affect the battery's performance? I thought when it's new, it's most optimum and slowly degrades through time? The screen was off most of the time unless I was doing anything I mentioned or just checking the time which is just on, check then off. I don't think I am paranoid over the battery life, just curious how to get it over a day.
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In my opinion the battery reaches her max in 3-4 weeks.
Download the app from the market and use it after every rom change.
I didn't called you paranoic, just that you mustn't be so worried.
My recomandation for a longer battery life is CM7.
GOOD DAY!
Read forum for more details.
Sorry for my english!
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You might try 1Ghz faux kernels as well. They seemed to have helped my battery life considerably.
Chek out what apps you have running in the background and be sure you set youre network yourself (my phone was always changing from 2g to 3g and after i selected the network myself it gave me a 1day + boost .
And you shoud know that the litium polimer batteryes are affected by cold temperatures.
I wish you luck!
I did use cm7 (neutrino) and got about the same battery life span as the current rom (laytveyit), and am currently on the faux 1ghz kernel. Anyway, I will see how it performance in the weeks to come and hopefully the newer version of the rom will improve it. I thought cold temperature helps preserve the battery's life span?
EDIT: Thanks for all the advice!
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Am envious to those who managed to use their phone for more than a day. I bought this phone for about 2 weeks now and have done the normal full charge for 8 hours on the first time. Since then, I have fully charged twice and let the battery gone flat once. I have flashed Neutrino rom and currently Latveyit rom, and the battery last best 12 hours so far.
I charged the phone to 94% at about 7pm and just made two calls and two text messages. I did a navigation on maps for about 15mins max. By about 11pm, battery is at 57%, I play some games for about 10mins and went to bed, in the morning it's about 35%. I realise that the first 50% really goes fast and after that it's pretty decent until less than 20% and it drains fast again. Background application I have are the normal chat programs, whatsapp, viber, kakaotalk, skype and ebuddy. I have waze running in the background although I think it shuts off after 15mins. I have a mix of wifi and 3g usage, usually on wifi though. Is this normal?
edit: I also have Lookout antivirus running
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Lol all those chats are you problem imo
The "standard" apps used to figure out what's eating your batteries are:
BetterBatteryStats: for wakelocks
CpuSpy: to tell if you phone is going into deep sleep or not
Built in Battery Usage: to see a pretty graph and tell what's using the most juice
SystemTuner: I just recently started playing with this, lots of information.
Look up BetterBatteryStats here up XDA. There's plenty of threads on how to use it. Look up wakelocks.