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I have an AT&T 8525 arriving tomorrow and I'm so excited by the possibilities... but at the same time I'm just by all the different jargon and things that everyone seems to know about. I'm coming from a Blackjack which I've hacked the crap out of but this just seems so much more complicated. Anyway, hello, if you have any suggestions for someone who has never had an HTC before, please post them up for me, because I really just don't know where to start.
Thanks!
Start here, read and learn
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
welcome to the club, please read all the Sticky topics on the main page of HERMES Upgrading ect...
if you still have any questions or concerns then post your next question...
happy reading
Oh god... come in sucker.
First of all, before you even start using your phone, SIM unlock it, super CID it, install Bootloader 1.11 but not 1.04 unless you have Olipro 1.02b or you have acces to KITL, then flash every ROM you can find until sleep deprivation affects your marriage your job and you forget the name of your eldest child.
Then after two months of owning a phone that almost never is in a working state, you'll get it stuck in bootloader mode just after you suffered your first white screen of death, and in desperation you will call your carrier with a string of lies and send it back for a replacement.
Then you start the whole process again...
Have fun... not.
esseff said:
Oh god... come in sucker.
First of all, before you even start using your phone, SIM unlock it, super CID it, install Bootloader 1.11 but not 1.04 unless you have Olipro 1.02b or you have acces to KITL, then flash every ROM you can find until sleep deprivation affects your marriage your job and you forget the name of your eldest child.
Then after two months of owning a phone that almost never is in a working state, you'll get it stuck in bootloader mode just after you suffered your first white screen of death, and in desperation you will call your carrier with a string of lies and send it back for a replacement.
Then you start the whole process again...
Have fun... not.
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LOL - that is funny, but a little pessimistic.
If you have hacked your Blackjack to shreads, you will have no problem.
Start with MrVanx Upgrade Guides to see the process.
Then, once you have a feel for the bits and pieces of the process, read through the wiki and forums and you will be able to sort through the threds of relavence. It is really not THAT hard once you have done a little homework.
Most important thing - the first thing you should do is upgrade the SPL to Olipro's HardSPLv7 - do that first - that way you can recover from just about anything.
Rest assured, if you have a little experience, educate yourself and follow the guides to get started, your device will work 99% of the time. Don't fret.
I am also one of those new users and my 8525 is coming in a few days but i'm a bit technical about computers so i tend to grab it quickly, i DON'T want to play around with my mobile, i just want to unlock it, then put it to some good windows mobile 6, and then forget about it till windows mobile 7 comes, does that mean i use pof's sim unlocker v3a to unlock my phone...
alternative is Hard-SPL, if thati have seen that making your phone supercid seems dangerous and the safer s true i simply apply hard-spl on my phone? (though i don't even know what it does if its a utility or a piece of code integrated into your phone or a custom bootloader ), after applying hardspl, i simply follow the legitimate official instructions to install TyTN Mobile 6 official rom as if my 8525 was a HTC TyTN?
I just want my final goal to be Mobile 6.0 Unlocked in the safest go...
encryptedmaniac said:
I am also one of those new users and my 8525 is coming in a few days but i'm a bit technical about computers so i tend to grab it quickly, i DON'T want to play around with my mobile, i just want to unlock it, then put it to some good windows mobile 6, and then forget about it till windows mobile 7 comes, does that mean i use pof's sim unlocker v3a to unlock my phone...
alternative is Hard-SPL, if thati have seen that making your phone supercid seems dangerous and the safer s true i simply apply hard-spl on my phone? (though i don't even know what it does if its a utility or a piece of code integrated into your phone or a custom bootloader ), after applying hardspl, i simply follow the legitimate official instructions to install TyTN Mobile 6 official rom as if my 8525 was a HTC TyTN?
I just want my final goal to be Mobile 6.0 Unlocked in the safest go...
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How do you know that WM5 isn't good enough for you? If the only thing you want on your phone is WM6, why didn't you buy one with this pre-installed? Maybe you should spend some more time reading before you get, and break your new toy - all the best links are already posted above and if you'd read them you wouldn't be posting these questions.
todd_jg said:
LOL - that is funny, but a little pessimistic.
If you have hacked your Blackjack to shreads, you will have no problem.
Start with MrVanx Upgrade Guides to see the process.
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Pessimistic?
That link lists no fewer than five operating systems, for one device, all WM6!!!
Which one works??? This is ridiculous!
This is worse than linux!
...head...spinning...
Thanks for the advice to everyone who gave it... I got my Hermes at 1 this afternoon and it's been sitting on my desk, charging and keeping me from really getting any work done all afternoon. I'm going to assume that all the acronyms y'all are throwing at me will be explained in the wikis...
Don't freak them out guys , get it unlock it install official go to bed happy, if you want to go crazy over installing different versions of roms all the time do so but check the safety steps first (many guides here, Mr. Vanx's is a great place to start) mind you there is no 100% safe option and most of the roms are more or less the same, you can always add cab files of things you want, it's better to stick to a clean rom. If you play with it there might be a chance you screw it... badly (even if you know what you're doing)
Me I just updated the official WM6 (which was released sooooo long later) thankfully in your case you don't have to wait.
Either way congrads on the phone and enjoy it, some small issues aside you have a great piece of hardware there.
CSMR said:
Pessimistic?
That link lists no fewer than five operating systems, for one device, all WM6!!!
Which one works??? This is ridiculous!
This is worse than linux!
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Nothing is worse than Linux!!!!!
d.butters said:
I have an AT&T 8525 arriving tomorrow and I'm so excited by the possibilities... but at the same time I'm just by all the different jargon and things that everyone seems to know about. I'm coming from a Blackjack which I've hacked the crap out of but this just seems so much more complicated. Anyway, hello, if you have any suggestions for someone who has never had an HTC before, please post them up for me, because I really just don't know where to start.
Thanks!
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welcome... i was like you for a while... i'm a new hermes 8525 owner too... read and learn before you really dive in... understand the terminology and jargon for a while... get used to using your phone in stock mode for a while before moving forward... being familiar with it is important... then the first thing you should install when you decide to is hardspl... good luck...
thanks again to everyone! I have to say that the MrVanx Upgrade Guides link was the best, most helpful thing anyone could have pointed me at - step-by-step instructions to flash my hermes with a new ROM. It was great. The forums also yielded CABs and all sorts of other helpful links that have set me up with a near - perfect phone.
Of course, now I'm bored. what's the next step? 'cooking' my own ROMs? where do I start with that? what are 'kitchens'? I know there's lots out there. thanks again for the help y'all have given!!!
esseff said:
Nothing is worse than Linux!!!!!
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hey now hey now, that's a bit mean. Linux does after all give you the whole house, while Microsoft only gives you the Windows
ok, maybe i'm just causing a bit of trouble hehe... just ignore me hehehe
d.butters said:
thanks again to everyone! I have to say that the MrVanx Upgrade Guides link was the best, most helpful thing anyone could have pointed me at - step-by-step instructions to flash my hermes with a new ROM. It was great. The forums also yielded CABs and all sorts of other helpful links that have set me up with a near - perfect phone.
Of course, now I'm bored. what's the next step? 'cooking' my own ROMs? where do I start with that? what are 'kitchens'? I know there's lots out there. thanks again for the help y'all have given!!!
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So, I can't read your nick without thinking of the Lethal Weapon movie with Chris Rock. He was detective Butters or something. Anywa, I digress...
I think your next logical step is one of two paths:
1. Cooking and coding - either for yourself or for a new release, if you come up with something you think is different or cool for the community - home cooked customization apps are quite popular - settings backup/recover solutions too - fewer options out there for that right now
or
2. Documenting - maybe something you could work with MrVanx on if you want to pick up an area that is not well documented adn try to document it for folks
For cooking, start HERE IN THE WIKI and see what you can figure out. I am not sure if all the latest kitchen releases are in here, but it is a good start. Follow the links then do some additional searches - lot's of cool stuff... enjoy...
Hi there. I have/had wizard g4, but after upgradin' rom by ruu my phone is bricked. he doesn't even respone to charger.
Now technical details: upgrade was done on i/spl 2.21.001/olip, so after hardspl'ing him. Everythin' went just fine, but in 73% i've realised that i'm uploadin' g3 rom... So i let ruu finish his job and now my pda is completly dead.
I won't be askin' for HELP, i will ask for info. Will anyone can tell me: if i take out 'disk on chip' (cause i think that's the flashrom chip), how i can reflash it? I mean: should i just put nk.nbf from 0x0000 or split rom image onto bootloader, radio and os and put it partially? what are adressess of those thinx and lenght of code? and how can i split nk.nbf?
Congrats !
What your are asking is not easy to do,it requires special flashing tools and connectors,which only the manufacturers and vendors have,It needs new bootloaders,you cannot do it yourself.DOC chip might have to be replaced,it means an almost new phone
Btw,have you tried to force it into bootloaders ? might be lucky,if it gets into bootloaders.well there's no harm in trying,if it does,then you might in luck and safe.
whatdy'a mean sayin' 'force it into bootloader'? if you mean pressing cam button while poweing it on- yes i've tried. i even tried to boot linux on desktop computer, connectin' wizard and typin' 'lsusb' in console, hoping that something like 'xxxx:xxxx unkown vendor' occurs. But, still no luck. even linux thoughts that usb port with connected wiz is free.
I know that only vendors and sevice-guyz know 'tricks' about connecting directly to DOC chip... but i'm still hopeing, cause i've found two unused connector places on mainboard(after disassemblin' of corse)- one in the middle, second next to sim card connector and i'm wondering if there's any chance to ommit BGA-welding(sorry 4 my english).
Have you heard about conspiracy theory ? i begun to belive in it... I think that many people know what 2 do, but noone want to help me from one particular reason: if someone helps me, i wouldn't need to pay in service, so someone will not earn money...
anyway, what do you mean about 'force in2 bl'?
lis6502 said:
whatdy'a mean sayin' 'force it into bootloader'? if you mean pressing cam button while poweing it on- yes i've tried. i even tried to boot linux on desktop computer, connectin' wizard and typin' 'lsusb' in console, hoping that something like 'xxxx:xxxx unkown vendor' occurs. But, still no luck. even linux thoughts that usb port with connected wiz is free.
I know that only vendors and sevice-guyz know 'tricks' about connecting directly to DOC chip... but i'm still hopeing, cause i've found two unused connector places on mainboard(after disassemblin' of corse)- one in the middle, second next to sim card connector and i'm wondering if there's any chance to ommit BGA-welding(sorry 4 my english).
Have you heard about conspiracy theory ? i begun to belive in it... I think that many people know what 2 do, but noone want to help me from one particular reason: if someone helps me, i wouldn't need to pay in service, so someone will not earn money...
anyway, what do you mean about 'force in2 bl'?
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First,let me clear you here, There's no such "Conspiracy theory" being practiced here in this Forum.It's a development Forum and not a Technical Advisory Service of some sort,where experts give advise and earn money.Its a free forum to help the newbies about the problem regarding their phones,We here believe in "Help & Support".The guys and gurus are not trained technical experts,its a voluntary website,where guys help and advise what they have learned and gained to the new guys joining and asking for help and they do it with honesty and to the best of their knowledge without any monetary benefits.
Secondly,Yes ! thats exactly what I meant for 'Force into booltloaders',cuz,may be if it does boot in the bootloaders,then it might be recovered,just a haunch,but if it doesn't,then its another dead paper weight on the desk.
Cheers!
I think it's a misunderstood there. I mean that maybe someone know what to do, but if it would leak to internet then services can lost money, cause what to pay 50$ i.e. if you can repair PDA by yourself?. I mean also that i've searched whole wide web... My polish sites of electronics, pda forums, even those forums where volunteers helps guys who crashed their bioses on PC's. And nothin', no one replies to mails, and if i ask someone directly they say thats no hope for me and my PDA.
I just cannot believe it... Even old PC had protection, if you uploaded wrong code into BIOS and PC cannot boot you always could ISA graphic card and boot from floppy.
lis6502 said:
I think it's a misunderstood there. I mean that maybe someone know what to do, but if it would leak to internet then services can lost money, cause what to pay 50$ i.e. if you can repair PDA by yourself?. I mean also that i've searched whole wide web... My polish sites of electronics, pda forums, even those forums where volunteers helps guys who crashed their bioses on PC's. And nothin', no one replies to mails, and if i ask someone directly they say thats no hope for me and my PDA.
I just cannot believe it... Even old PC had protection, if you uploaded wrong code into BIOS and PC cannot boot you always could ISA graphic card and boot from floppy.
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focus on the problem:
tell me if u can at least see the bootloader ? If yes then u can have a fair chance of bringing urs back to life
It is because you are not supposed to flash a ROM that is not for your device!
For example, what will happen if you flash a AMIBIOS to a motherboard that uses AWARDBIOS (By your own way for sure)? Flashing G3-only ROMs to G4 device is just like that.
The protection for htc device is not letting you to flash a G3 only RUU in the usual way, you cracked to let it allow any ROM is your own problem, not problem of htc, and htc doesn't have to take care of it.
alber786 said:
focus on the problem:
tell me if u can at least see the bootloader ?
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few posts ago i've wrote, that i cannot even see red led when pluggin' onto charger. BL mode doesn't work either (cam+ sr or cam+pwr).
i've found another way to resurrect my wiza200. JTAG.
But ofcoz noone knows where are testpoints located. But i'll find it. BTW someone can e-mail me fubu of working g4 wizard? lis6502 (at) gmail (dot) com
starkwong said:
For example, what will happen if you flash a AMIBIOS to a motherboard that uses AWARDBIOS (By your own way for sure)? Flashing G3-only ROMs to G4 device is just like that.
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yeah, i know what i did. i understand example of bioses misupload. i've explained in that way to some guys who doesn't understand what i did
starkwong said:
The protection for htc device is not letting you to flash a G3 only RUU in the usual way, you cracked to let it allow any ROM is your own problem, not problem of htc, and htc doesn't have to take care of it.
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Do i cracked it? i just found ONE working ruu which allowed me to upload any rom to my device. i've switched nk.nbf files in folder wich ruu was in.
I know also that HTC wouldn't help mi, i'm not counting on warranty or manufacturer help.
No No...
You installed HardSPL to your device, so your device is already cracked (say patched may be better) by you.
starkwong said:
No No...
You installed HardSPL to your device, so your device is already cracked (say patched may be better) by you.
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uhm, it may be infatile question, but is it illegal? i know thah chaging IMEI is illegal, but is hardspl'ing too?
Cracking SPL is not an offense in law, just violate the warranty terms only.
2 starwonk: man, i'm from poland. i've bought my spv on polish eqiuvalent of e-bay. It's o2 xda mini s, so warranty is only valid in UK. i've told that i'm not counting on warranty. i need and must do it all by myself. and i will do it. Wish me luck
Hello there, Since I am somewhat poor and I´m still under my parents wing... I upgrade phones about every 5 years, (well at least until I start working) so i was really outdated with phones but i did my homework and got to the conclusion that Android based phones are the best price x performance/ features.. specifically Motorola brand around the $200 mark so my decision was between the Droid 3, Photon 4g & Atrix 4G.. I decided for the Atrix with the lapdock which i think is the best feature until now!
This it my first smartphone ever! laugh at this.. I´m upgrading form a Motorola Rokr em35 which i remember that i bought for $180 because it was a music player based phone that had a 3.5mm headphone jack! and now i bought the atrix with the lapdock for $250 on eBay.
Im just learning how to use the phone I´m hoping for some guidance on some things i should and shouldn't do!
first off.. My phone is blocked.. so Im thinking about buying an unlock code for about $2 since its blocked in my country (Dom. Rep.) ,, hows that about?
i want to learn all about the cool stuff i can do with the phone.
learn about custom roms and themes... Ive heard theres roms that are really optimized for the Atrix 4G and even overclocked!! but i dont want to loose the webtop ability?
I heard that you can make a partition on a micro sd and install a Full Ubuntu OS ... which im most exited about! even thought ive never used linux!
Luckily im into computers since I study computer science/engineering and these things shouldn't be hard for me to learn.
im really eager to get on to this stuff and I hope i can get somebody to guide and help me though all this! i hope this is the right place
Before doing any unlocking, or custom roms, etc. READ, RE-READ IT, THEN READ IT ALL AGAIN. until you understand what you are doing.
as for ubuntu ( linux ) on your phone, you said that you never used linux before. I would learn the basics with linux, on a computer, before slapping it on your phone and not understading the OS. But thats up to you. its just easier to learn it on a pc from start, rather than on a phone that you dont even understand yet.
No question here, is a dumb question, so ask away, ( just remember to search before asking so ya dont get the crap flammed out of ya )
once ya start learning linux, you will love it. its better than windows.
Good Luck!
pcrat said:
Before doing any unlocking, or custom roms, etc. READ, RE-READ IT, THEN READ IT ALL AGAIN. until you understand what you are doing.
as for ubuntu ( linux ) on your phone, you said that you never used linux before. I would learn the basics with linux, on a computer, before slapping it on your phone and not understading the OS. But thats up to you. its just easier to learn it on a pc from start, rather than on a phone that you dont even understand yet.
No question here, is a dumb question, so ask away, ( just remember to search before asking so ya dont get the crap flammed out of ya )
once ya start learning linux, you will love it. its better than windows.
Good Luck!
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thanks, I´ll read as much as I have to.. can you post me some good links on these sfuff.. but first i wanna unlock and root the phone. I seen vendors on ebay that provide you with an unlock code for your IMEI. should i do that¿
edit: btw i am familiar with ubuntus UI since Ive used it a few times but never had it personally for me so i dont now things like commands lines and that advanced stuff. i just like the idea of using the lapdock as a notebook and not being limited by the ROM/OS ... would be good for collage.
antmiu2 said:
thanks, I´ll read as much as I have to.. can you post me some good links on these sfuff.. but first i wanna unlock and root the phone. I seen vendors on ebay that provide you with an unlock code for your IMEI. should i do that¿
edit: btw i am familiar with ubuntus UI since Ive used it a few times but never had it personally for me so i dont now things like commands lines and that advanced stuff. i just like the idea of using the lapdock as a notebook and not being limited by the ROM/OS ... would be good for collage.
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the wiki has most the guides, roms, and other stuff listed out, and its mostly up to date.. you should definitely read through the noob guide first because it has all the terminology you'll be seeing throughout the rest of the forums
If you want to keep your webtop the roms I would recommend are darkside or wetdream, both by Nottach..they have a ton of great features..of course there are others and I recommend you go through all of them and find whats right for you..just avoid cyanogen mod(CM7, CM9) based roms because they do not include webtop or any close alternative for now
Just remember, take your time on rooting and unlocking your bootloader, because you can really mess things up, but after that everything else should be pretty easy..
And don't worry too much about your rom selection, if you back everything up properly you should be able to switch roms in under an hour, so you can try out many different roms before settling on which one you like best(such a hard choice!)
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the wiki has most the guides, roms, and other stuff listed out, and its mostly up to date.. you should definitely read through the noob guide first because it has all the terminology you'll be seeing throughout the rest of the forums
If you want to keep your webtop the roms I would recommend are darkside or wetdream, both by Nottach..they have a ton of great features..of course there are others and I recommend you go through all of them and find whats right for you..just avoid cyanogen mod(CM7, CM9) based roms because they do not include webtop or any close alternative for now
Just remember, take your time on rooting and unlocking your bootloader, because you can really mess things up, but after that everything else should be pretty easy..
And don't worry too much about your rom selection, if you back everything up properly you should be able to switch roms in under an hour, so you can try out many different roms before settling on which one you like best(such a hard choice!)
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thanks so much for being kind with this noob
It can't be overstated though. READ. I've been toying with my Atrix for a couple of months now, and came close to bricking my phone since I didn't read it all. By all I don't mean only posts about the developer, but problems people have encountered with their specific atrix model.
You've got to read a lot though.
The Atrix was my first Android and I have to say I couldn't be happier with the level of customisation you can get.
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It can't be overstated though. READ. I've been toying with my Atrix for a couple of months now, and came close to bricking my phone since I didn't read it all. By all I don't mean only posts about the developer, but problems people have encountered with their specific atrix model.
You've got to read a lot though.
The Atrix was my first Android and I have to say I couldn't be happier with the level of customisation you can get.
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yes, im reading the wiki link thewarhawk gave me, i want to be careful not to brick it.. because i cant send it back to the US to att ... if any thing i´ll make another help me thread
Hi Everyone,
I just got my Galaxy S2 back, model number GT-19100M. I had sent it in to get it unlocked, the sim and the carrier unlock. I assume that this would be rooted to have accomplished this?
They had an issue unlocking the carrier and had to reflash the phone to gingerbread before they were able to unlock the carrier. So I got it baack and the version is 4.0.3 now.
So I did some googling about how to tell if it was rooted. Now, from my understanding that to flash the phone with a rom it would have to be rooted. So I came across about using Root Checker, So i installed it and it said it wasnt rooted, I then installed ConnectBot and the thread (not from here) said that if a prompt came up with a # then it meant it was rooted, and if it came up with a $ at the prompt then it wasnt rooted. Low and behold it showed a $.
So all in all how do I tell if it was rooted? It cost me 50$ and well over a week and a half to get it back. So were the two applications correct and if not what is the right way to tell if it was rooted or is there something I should notice on the phone?
Thanks for any and all help on this situation.
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Hi Everyone,
I just got my Galaxy S2 back, model number GT-19100M. I had sent it in to get it unlocked, the sim and the carrier unlock. I assume that this would be rooted to have accomplished this?
They had an issue unlocking the carrier and had to reflash the phone to gingerbread before they were able to unlock the carrier. So I got it baack and the version is 4.0.3 now.
So I did some googling about how to tell if it was rooted. Now, from my understanding that to flash the phone with a rom it would have to be rooted. So I came across about using Root Checker, So i installed it and it said it wasnt rooted, I then installed ConnectBot and the thread (not from here) said that if a prompt came up with a # then it meant it was rooted, and if it came up with a $ at the prompt then it wasnt rooted. Low and behold it showed a $.
So all in all how do I tell if it was rooted? It cost me 50$ and well over a week and a half to get it back. So were the two applications correct and if not what is the right way to tell if it was rooted or is there something I should notice on the phone?
Thanks for any and all help on this situation.
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1) u can check ur kernel and see.
2) also u can check for an app SuperSU or Superuser's presence in app drawer, if present ur phone is rooted else no.
3) u can install some apps like root explorer/browser etc and see, since they wrk only with root prievilage
Sun90 said:
1) u can check ur kernel and see.
2) also u can check for an app SuperSU or Superuser's presence in app drawer, if present ur phone is rooted else no.
3) u can install some apps like root explorer/browser etc and see, since they wrk only with root prievilage
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Hi thanks for the reply,
I downloaded and ran SuperSu and got this pop up "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!". So then I downloaded Root Browser Lite, i opened it up and got a list of folders. So now I'm confused, I have SuperSU saying that there is a problem, and with Root Browser Lite it runs and gives me a list of folders.
My kernel version is as follows: 3.0.15-I9100MUGLD3-CL377577 [email protected] #3
From my understanding and please correct me if i am wrong, but to do both unlocks (sim and carrier) that it needs to be rooted?
Before I handed the phone over to the computer store to unlock it, I had asked if it would be rooted and they said yes, but i didnt copy all the stuff in the about phone, but I was supplied with my unlock code to use when i pop a different sim in it.
Also, when I looked at the messages when i got it back that there was a text from rogers and the carrier that i was using was Virgin, so it looks as though it was properly unlocked.
I dont have anyone near me at the moment with a different carrier sim card (My girlfriend uses Telus, I suppose I could pop hers in but she might throw a fit and think that I could screw her iphone up lol)
So what would be my next plan of action?
Thanks for your reply
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Hi thanks for the reply,
I downloaded and ran SuperSu and got this pop up "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!". So then I downloaded Root Browser Lite, i opened it up and got a list of folders. So now I'm confused, I have SuperSU saying that there is a problem, and with Root Browser Lite it runs and gives me a list of folders.
My kernel version is as follows: 3.0.15-I9100MUGLD3-CL377577 [email protected] #3
From my understanding and please correct me if i am wrong, but to do both unlocks (sim and carrier) that it needs to be rooted?
Before I handed the phone over to the computer store to unlock it, I had asked if it would be rooted and they said yes, but i didnt copy all the stuff in the about phone, but I was supplied with my unlock code to use when i pop a different sim in it.
Also, when I looked at the messages when i got it back that there was a text from rogers and the carrier that i was using was Virgin, so it looks as though it was properly unlocked.
I dont have anyone near me at the moment with a different carrier sim card (My girlfriend uses Telus, I suppose I could pop hers in but she might throw a fit and think that I could screw her iphone up lol)
So what would be my next plan of action?
Thanks for your reply
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well by seeing ur kernel it seems that its a stock kernel hence ur phone is not rooted.
may be after unlocking ur phone they might have flashed the stock kernel back to unroot ur phone i suppose
Sun90 said:
well by seeing ur kernel it seems that its a stock kernel hence ur phone is not rooted.
may be after unlocking ur phone they might have flashed the stock kernel back to unroot ur phone i suppose
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After thinking for a moment, this does look like the kernel that was previously on it, I had played around with it before hand and I remember some things and the kernel looks familiar..
Well I believe you are correct that they reflashed it with the stock rom...Why they would do that is beyond me lol.
So I guess I am going to start rooting this on my own, would you please direct me to rooting this model? I know I can search this forum but I have done that before and noticed different ways of doing it. I just want to make sure that i do this properly using the proper thread and if i can do this properly then Im going to start on the path to rooting my S3 , So i guess my s2 is my practice
I do appreciate your replies and help with my situation
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After thinking for a moment, this does look like the kernel that was previously on it, I had played around with it before hand and I remember some things and the kernel looks familiar..
Well I believe you are correct that they reflashed it with the stock rom...Why they would do that is beyond me lol.
So I guess I am going to start rooting this on my own, would you please direct me to rooting this model? I know I can search this forum but I have done that before and noticed different ways of doing it. I just want to make sure that i do this properly using the proper thread and if i can do this properly then Im going to start on the path to rooting my S3 , So i guess my s2 is my practice
I do appreciate your replies and help with my situation
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the link below would be the simple on to start with rooting for u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746794
read the OP completely to understand the procedure and then proceed
good luck
Sun90 said:
the link below would be the simple on to start with rooting for u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746794
read the OP completely to understand the procedure and then proceed
good luck
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Thanks alot for your help I'll let you know how it goes I will be calling the computer store tomorrow that i used to question them on why they would do that after saying that it would be rooted lol
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Thanks alot for your help I'll let you know how it goes I will be calling the computer store tomorrow that i used to question them on why they would do that after saying that it would be rooted lol
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Wow this looks confusing on where do I start lol
BlindSession said:
Wow this looks confusing on where do I start lol
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nothing is confusing as long as u read and understand carefully what has been specified in those rooting method threads.
but still i would suggest u simply keep out of this rooting thing, if ur not sure about the same and unable to understand things about rooting properly
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nothing is confusing as long as u read and understand carefully what has been specified in those rooting method threads.
but still i would suggest u simply keep out of this rooting thing, if ur not sure about the same and unable to understand things about rooting properly
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I have read the rooting methods, and again reading it slower, I am not sure about this busybox thing, i think where i am getting confused because it doesnt seem to pop out to me saying if its ok to uninstall busybox and if i did would it still be rooted. I really dont some program running in the background to keep it rooted.
I have been writing software for over 5 years and i figured that this would be a walk in the park. Sit me infront of visual studio and i am a wiz with c#/Asp and sql, but with this i feel like complete noob and i am in actuality. Which is irritating me.
The reason behind having the desire to root this phone is because it should have been done when i got it unlocked 2) because with a rooted phone i have more options and control over this phone 3) because i dont know how and for being able to program that i should be able to do this. It seems like a different ball game and in all honesty knowledge is power and what i dont know how so it is a need to know how to do it. regardless if i wreck the phone, trial by fire i suppose. I cant learn if i dont attempt it and make the mistakes. When you learn how to do something and have come across making mistakes you tend to keep the knowledge more and appreciate what is learned.
Sorry, I got on my soap box on trying to justify doing this lol. But I do appreciate what you suggest. But Im going to try it and hopefully bring me out of my noob status lol.
i will keep you posted
Its not rocket science and what a load of rubbish about doing things wrong and wrecking your phone in order to learn.
What you do is read about other clowns wrecking their phones and dont do what they done-so you learn without any risk.
Just get rooted for now so you can use them fancy apps to get more control over you phone.Read about brickbug and look at some of the rom threads and also learn about cwm and odin.
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Its not rocket science and what a load of rubbish about doing things wrong and wrecking your phone in order to learn.
What you do is read about other clowns wrecking their phones and dont do what they done-so you learn without any risk.
Just get rooted for now so you can use them fancy apps to get more control over you phone.Read about brickbug and look at some of the rom threads and also learn about cwm and odin.
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Forgive me for using the wrong words, I did not say to do things wrong and wreaking my phone. I should have phrased that differently, IF i do it wrong and wreck it somehow then it is a lessoned learned.I'm in no way out to wreck my phone, thats ridiculous. I have made many mistakes during programming that I have learned and remembered what not to do, some people learn the hard way to retain what they did wrong and not to repeat it. Not everyone learns the same way.
I completely understand about reading how others wreck their phone so i can learn without risk, and to read up on odin and brickbug, which is blatantly obvious.
As for fancy apps, you are kidding right? you think i want to root my phone to use fancy apps? I think not. i'm not some kid that likes shiney new things and to be the one to say "look what i got". That comment was utter disrespect. Maybe instead of trying to make me look like a dumbass you could be a little more helpful and not be so blantantly obvious on what i should do, which i already have started doing until i had to reply this.
Is this how you treat everyone that is starting to learn something new? You make obvious statements, mock by saying what isnt rocket science? I highly doubt that when you started doing this that you werent some dumbass in the beginning.
I appreciate the person who was replying to my questions and pointing me in the right direction, he was helpful. You were just being a ****. you know on forums dealing with c#/asp.net I dont act like you do to questions or statements that i feel are silly, especially to people just starting out. You must have been treated the way you treated me when you first started out, how many times did you feel like a dumbass from people that knew what they were talking about? probably still to this day in one way or another you are treated like an idiot. So instead of acting the way you were and still are treated, try acting decent and helpful and not counter-active.
I hope that there isn't more people acting like you did towards me to other people, if so then this isnt a place to learn.
Thanks for the praise.....
I ask myself every day....is rooting really that difficult?.Is this xda or facebook?.Whats with "life stories" included in posts?.Have all them guys that created stickies/guides wasted their time cos noobs/donks like you dont read them?.
And guys like Sun90 are helpful and intelligent....theyve helped me out before.
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Forgive me for using the wrong words, I did not say to do things wrong and wreaking my phone. I should have phrased that differently, IF i do it wrong and wreck it somehow then it is a lessoned learned.I'm in no way out to wreck my phone, thats ridiculous. I have made many mistakes during programming that I have learned and remembered what not to do, some people learn the hard way to retain what they did wrong and not to repeat it. Not everyone learns the same way.
I completely understand about reading how others wreck their phone so i can learn without risk, and to read up on odin and brickbug, which is blatantly obvious.
As for fancy apps, you are kidding right? you think i want to root my phone to use fancy apps? I think not. i'm not some kid that likes shiney new things and to be the one to say "look what i got". That comment was utter disrespect. Maybe instead of trying to make me look like a dumbass you could be a little more helpful and not be so blantantly obvious on what i should do, which i already have started doing until i had to reply this.
Is this how you treat everyone that is starting to learn something new? You make obvious statements, mock by saying what isnt rocket science? I highly doubt that when you started doing this that you werent some dumbass in the beginning.
I appreciate the person who was replying to my questions and pointing me in the right direction, he was helpful. You were just being a ****. you know on forums dealing with c#/asp.net I dont act like you do to questions or statements that i feel are silly, especially to people just starting out. You must have been treated the way you treated me when you first started out, how many times did you feel like a dumbass from people that knew what they were talking about? probably still to this day in one way or another you are treated like an idiot. So instead of acting the way you were and still are treated, try acting decent and helpful and not counter-active.
I hope that there isn't more people acting like you did towards me to other people, if so then this isnt a place to learn.
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hey buddy chill for now , in XDA u will face all sort of people, which is quite common ma8.
as for as ur 'Busybox' thing is concern, this is what it means.
BusyBox is a software application that provides many standard Unix tools, much like the larger (but more capable) GNU Core Utilities. BusyBox is designed to be a small executable for use with the Linux kernel, which makes it ideal for use with embedded devices. It has been self-dubbed "The Swiss Army Knife of Embedded Linux".
it will provide u all necessary things to have access to root of ur phone, while SuperSU or Superuser grants necessary permissions to all those apps which need 'Root Access' to perform efficiently.
if u remove busybox then u will loose root access to ur phone for sure.
hope the above things ar clear for u for now
Sun90 said:
hey buddy chill for now , in XDA u will face all sort of people, which is quite common ma8.
as for as ur 'Busybox' thing is concern, this is what it means.
BusyBox is a software application that provides many standard Unix tools, much like the larger (but more capable) GNU Core Utilities. BusyBox is designed to be a small executable for use with the Linux kernel, which makes it ideal for use with embedded devices. It has been self-dubbed "The Swiss Army Knife of Embedded Linux".
it will provide u all necessary things to have access to root of ur phone, while SuperSU or Superuser grants necessary permissions to all those apps which need 'Root Access' to perform efficiently.
if u remove busybox then u will loose root access to ur phone for sure.
hope the above things ar clear for u for now
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Hi Sun90,
You are absolutely right when it comes to types of people that I wil come across in this forum or any other forum for that matter, I just didnt expect someone to start flaming right off the bat.
Thank you for the explaination on 'BusyBox', I understand what you are saying. My concern was that I didnt want to have to rely on something that had to be constantly running on my phone to ensure that it stays rooted. I gather from what you said about buysbox that its just tools, and not something that constantly runs. The swiss army metaphor, makes sense.
I have searched through these forums and somethings that may be obvious and cut and dry to people that have done this, isnt always the case to everyone else. I get left with many questions after reading threads. I have read many threads here and throughout online on rooting. Some guides are easy, they tell you how but never the 'why'.
I have heard alot about odin, and I have read things where i plug my phone in and run a 'runme.bat' that does it all but explain why.
Today I'm going to be reading deeper on Odin and Clockworkmod and trying to find the correct secure and unsecure kernel. I hope to run across more people like you that actually are here to help and not wanting to show how much they know by being condescending to make themselves feel better about themselves.
In the end, for me, its not enough to do it but to know the whys behind it. Thank you for your patience and the help.
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Hi Sun90,
You are absolutely right when it comes to types of people that I wil come across in this forum or any other forum for that matter, I just didnt expect someone to start flaming right off the bat.
Thank you for the explaination on 'BusyBox', I understand what you are saying. My concern was that I didnt want to have to rely on something that had to be constantly running on my phone to ensure that it stays rooted. I gather from what you said about buysbox that its just tools, and not something that constantly runs. The swiss army metaphor, makes sense.
I have searched through these forums and somethings that may be obvious and cut and dry to people that have done this, isnt always the case to everyone else. I get left with many questions after reading threads. I have read many threads here and throughout online on rooting. Some guides are easy, they tell you how but never the 'why'.
I have heard alot about odin, and I have read things where i plug my phone in and run a 'runme.bat' that does it all but explain why.
Today I'm going to be reading deeper on Odin and Clockworkmod and trying to find the correct secure and unsecure kernel. I hope to run across more people like you that actually are here to help and not wanting to show how much they know by being condescending to make themselves feel better about themselves.
In the end, for me, its not enough to do it but to know the whys behind it. Thank you for your patience and the help.
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:laugh: u should not misundertand people's comments here in the first place ma8, but do take it positively, since everybody in XDA is willing to Help one another for sure, But some times the helping way which really Confuses the matter for sure
since i assume ur a man who is more hungry for indepth knowledge of things u come accross,which is really good in its own way, I wish u success for ur journey seeking the same here on XDA
Good Luck:good:
Sun90 said:
:laugh: u should not misundertand people's comments here in the first place ma8, but do take it positively, since everybody in XDA is willing to Help one another for sure, But some times the helping way which really Confuses the matter for sure
since i assume ur a man who is more hungry for indepth knowledge of things u come accross,which is really good in its own way, I wish u success for ur journey seeking the same here on XDA
Good Luck:good:
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Well I just downloaded CF-Root-SGS2_XW_XEN_LP7-v5.4-CWM5.zip, and Odin3-ver3.5 and am about to follow Chainfire's thread with its step by step guide, i found his guide to be pretty insightful. Another thing I got confused on was the difference between I1900, I1900M and I found out that the only difference between the 2 was nothing. One question though, after i root the phone and if i ever do a factory reset on it does it stay rooted or do I have to do the process over, likewise with busy box.
I did copy down what version my phone is running if something goes wrong...
I'll post back soon with either success or failure.
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Well I just downloaded CF-Root-SGS2_XW_XEN_LP7-v5.4-CWM5.zip, and Odin3-ver3.5 and am about to follow Chainfire's thread with its step by step guide, i found his guide to be pretty insightful. Another thing I got confused on was the difference between I1900, I1900M and I found out that the only difference between the 2 was nothing. One question though, after i root the phone and if i ever do a factory reset on it does it stay rooted or do I have to do the process over, likewise with busy box.
I did copy down what version my phone is running if something goes wrong...
I'll post back soon with either success or failure.
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You won't lose root if you factory reset. Only way to unroot is to flash stock firmware again.
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Thanks Spiralzz
So right now i followed the instructions, i have odin running. I have the phone itself in usb debugging... but it looks like odin froze up..its at SetupConnection and hasnt continued. Could i be wrong and it takes time? Its been in this state for about 5 minutes now.
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Ok well, i wasnt successful. Odin came back with a fail. It came back 3 times failing.
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Okay, I know I'm supposed to search seven hells (watching too much Game of Thrones) before I post my question. The intro video was clear enough about that. But no, nothing helped. So here goes....
Hi guys,
My HCL ME V1 tablet (ICS 4.0.4, kernel 3.x.x, rooted with ME U1 root via SuperOneClick. Several forums said that this root would work for V1 as well) is stuck in a boot loop. The rest button does not solve the problem, neither does a hard reset (it simply does not go into hard reset from all the methods suggested online across various forums). I scoured heaven and earth to find how to go into recovery for this particular tablet but none of the solutions work.
The power button works only once when it's in 100% charge (green light on the top corner of lcd). After that I have to wait for it to get discharged completely and recharge it once again. All those tips of pressing the volume up and/or down button along with the power/home button and the reset pinhole... none of them worked in my case. I know its a corrupted OS issue and I can solve it. Only if I could somehow get the tablet to boot once or get into recovery or download mode. I know it for a fact that the power button i fine because... again... I stand witness to the fact that the tablet has not experienced any physical shock what-so-ever since the day it was bought. Also not to forget it works once when the tab is in 100% charge.
I can see two scenarios by which the problem might have started:
1. I downloaded FL Studio Mobile apk and its dlc from pirate bay. I copied the apk to the internal SD card (straight on the sd card not inside any folder), and the dlc was instructed to be copied to sdcard/Android/obb. The uploader had said that if the obb folder was not there, I had to create it and so I did and copied. Halfway through the dlc copy, my laptop hanged. So I terminated the process from taskmgr and disconnected my tab from the "disconnect from USB storage" page on the tablet.
2. Next I opened Android Tweaker (Pro?) to tweak a few parameters so that FL Studio Mobile could run a bit lag free. I'm not a power user so, I just used the auto-tweak feature for the performance settings. Next I rebooted via the app and lo! The tablet is now stuck in an eternal boot cycle loop.
I'm an electronic musician and like to have these apps on my devices so that I can make music on the go.
Also one thing I should mention is that while rooting the /bin/su file could not be executed, however installing Titanium Backup Pro (Root) had solved that problem as there was an option in that app to fix it.
Sorry for the long post :cyclops: but I think my problem is somewhat peculiar if not unique. No body else's solution is working and I think there are not many Indians who use the V1 tablet.
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Thank you everyone for not replying to this post. You may have thought that the solutions existed in someone else's answers. But NO. None of anyone else's solutions worked.
I thought this was a place full of experts, but I guess you people are way too busy with your own stuff to really help others which is the purpose of this forum.
Anyways, I solved the problem. The tablet works fine, in fact it works even faster. And just to rub it in HCL's face, I've upgraded the internal memory and RAM. Yes I resoldered the PCB. Removed all the bloatware and useless stuff from our dear beloved Indian manufacturer.
But I'm not going to share how I solved this issue. None of you took the time to reply, so non of u will get this piece of knowledge upgrade. Funk you very much :victory:
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pborah88 said:
Thank you everyone for not replying to this post. You may have thought that the solutions existed in someone else's answers. But NO. None of anyone else's solutions worked.
I thought this was a place full of experts, but I guess you people are way too busy with your own stuff to really help others which is the purpose of this forum.
Anyways, I solved the problem. The tablet works fine, in fact it works even faster. And just to rub it in HCL's face, I've upgraded the internal memory and RAM. Yes I resoldered the PCB. Removed all the bloatware and useless stuff from our dear beloved Indian manufacturer.
But I'm not going to share how I solved this issue. None of you took the time to reply, so non of u will get this piece of knowledge upgrade. Funk you very much :victory:
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Hey bro,
I am newbie with this HCL V1 tablet and it sucks a lot to use this. I got it sent to HCL store for repairing (to flash) just after 3 days I ordered it.
As you are the user of this tab you should be very well known to the problems this tab comes with. Even its not playing the Subway Surfer game smoothly, wt the hell with 1 GB RAM.
So please suggest me the twiks for this tab as like working rooting, global or transparent proxy (needs in college campus because in college wifi works only with default browser with no download at all (only in androids, downloads in symbian, iOS) probably because download runs with external app by default in androids as it shows differently in notification bar about the download progress).
Please help me to resolve these problems.
Thank you.
Mail me at : [email protected]
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guy pls dis is my email..am havin d same problem 4 4months nw.help me out [email protected]
Reason is overclocking that u have done
the reason for this is that u have overclocked the processor (especially at boot)
anyone here who knows that if that rom work with new HCL me tab or not ?? any ?
dude i stuck with the same problem ... i know u have issue by not posting the solution ... i checked your facebook ID it is not working ...
I desperately need your help .. plz help or at list tell me wher do i find u to get help online ..plz help ..plz help
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Thank you everyone for not replying to this post. You may have thought that the solutions existed in someone else's answers. But NO. None of anyone else's solutions worked.
I thought this was a place full of experts, but I guess you people are way too busy with your own stuff to really help others which is the purpose of this forum.
Anyways, I solved the problem. The tablet works fine, in fact it works even faster. And just to rub it in HCL's face, I've upgraded the internal memory and RAM. Yes I resoldered the PCB. Removed all the bloatware and useless stuff from our dear beloved Indian manufacturer.
But I'm not going to share how I solved this issue. None of you took the time to reply, so non of u will get this piece of knowledge upgrade. Funk you very much :victory:
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this bori guy is a selfish fellow. and why not? i heard bori's are all business minded. so how much shall i pay you to get your idea published here to all.
Thank you Mr. Racist Indian
jacktackle said:
this bori guy is a selfish fellow. and why not? i heard bori's are all business minded. so how much shall i pay you to get your idea published here to all.
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You are proving to the world how racist Indians are to each other nothing else. And I'm not a Bori wherever the **** they are from. Its Borah you "madarchod ki aulad hindustani" Of course now you will report this to the admin and I will get banned from this site. Or you're gonna throw your cheap sounding Indian abuses at me, or you will try to act like a smartass and type a nice sophisticated sounding comeback to make people sympathize with you. What else can your beta-male-Indian-ass do? Either way, you are insignificant to me and whatever you say is invalid in my world. And thank you for quoting me because finally I got a notification from this website.
For the rest of the people-
This thread is almost one year old now if you know how to read the English calendar. The FB account that was linked to this has been deleted almost a year ago. I don't exactly remember the solution but I cracked open the tablet, took out the ROM, took it to a friend who burns ROMs.
This tablet was meant for my dad which is why it pissed me off no end that it should malfunction. Eventually I threw this piece of **** in the trash and got him a Samsung tab that works the way it is meant to work.
My advice - save some money and buy a higher end android tab and your life will be much more peaceful. Unlike iOS where the hardware platform is pretty much standard, the wide variety of configurations on which android is installed is the main culprit here. You want smooth performance, less lag, and bug free performance, and easily available non-factory support? Honestly start saving money and get a better brand tab. No where else in the world do people push these cheap ass tablets so hard other than the third world.
I understand you all want the best bang for your buck but understand what "best" is first.
Now, you'll can crucify me in your replies if you want. I don't give two ****s about it. Peace out homos!
Calm Down Bro ...
thande thande raho bhai jaan ...
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You are proving to the world how racist Indians are to each other nothing else. And I'm not a Bori wherever the **** they are from. Its Borah you "madarchod ki aulad hindustani" Of course now you will report this to the admin and I will get banned from this site. Or you're gonna throw your cheap sounding Indian abuses at me, or you will try to act like a smartass and type a nice sophisticated sounding comeback to make people sympathize with you. What else can your beta-male-Indian-ass do? Either way, you are insignificant to me and whatever you say is invalid in my world. And thank you for quoting me because finally I got a notification from this website.
For the rest of the people-
This thread is almost one year old now if you know how to read the English calendar. The FB account that was linked to this has been deleted almost a year ago. I don't exactly remember the solution but I cracked open the tablet, took out the ROM, took it to a friend who burns ROMs.
This tablet was meant for my dad which is why it pissed me off no end that it should malfunction. Eventually I threw this piece of **** in the trash and got him a Samsung tab that works the way it is meant to work.
My advice - save some money and buy a higher end android tab and your life will be much more peaceful. Unlike iOS where the hardware platform is pretty much standard, the wide variety of configurations on which android is installed is the main culprit here. You want smooth performance, less lag, and bug free performance, and easily available non-factory support? Honestly start saving money and get a better brand tab. No where else in the world do people push these cheap ass tablets so hard other than the third world.
I understand you all want the best bang for your buck but understand what "best" is first.
Now, you'll can crucify me in your replies if you want. I don't give two ****s about it. Peace out homos!
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Hi iam new to this I have hcl v1 tab I want to root it but you told that you got stuck in a boot loop so can you tell me how to solve it in case I also get stuck it .how to install the stock firmware by using Android stock recovery.i know to get in stock recovery but no download mode.i am just 12 .please help me.