The way of a rom... - Android

I think there are many ppl like me that would love to hear the story how a phone is "hacked".
I don't talk about specifics for a special type of phone like the desire or blackstone.
I just want to know where it all starts after a new phone is released and what the way is until a rom is released that can be flashed and is usable.
Like do you use any special software or even hardware and so on.

i also would like to discuss about that with who did all thoses things..
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There are LOTS of threads discussing this. Just wait for a new device forum being opened here and follow it. You'll see it starts with a modified SPL version for WinMo, for instance.

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X10 wp7

Now that the bootloader has been bypassed. Is it possible to port wp7 os on our device?
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Justinhopaolo said:
Now that the bootloader has been bypassed. Is it possible to port wp7 os on our device?
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Nup, im wrong. It is possible if someone wants to waste their time doing it.
I'm not gonna use even if they do it.
And you should know, such a question does not belong in Xperia X10 Android Development.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254680
your Q is need to be on the Q&A section..
btw.. its possible..
It's possible but it requires lots of time, energy and of course, dedication. You need to rewrite most of the libs and modules, drivers, etc.
u can have wp7 . but truth is no one will ever spend so much time to write the libs and modules since x10 is almost a dying phone ( actually i can say its already dead) and little dev support. there are only 5-6 devs here.
HTC desire HD doenst have wp7 port yet , and there are countless amount of devs there. so basically u will never have a wp7 port. so stop expecting.
one word answer. YES. NOT
post in the right thread and ull get proper answer
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there is already a thread on this
NO IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
There are TONS of phones with an unlocked bootloader, and only the hd2 had a wp7 port.
People need to get realistic, this type of bs is not helping anyone or anything.
We are NOT going to get WP7 or Sense......
Yes or no
Theoretically, its possible.
Our spec are quite near to HD2
But, who wanna waste time and resources in porting WP7
ishunz said:
Yes or no
Theoretically, its possible.
Our spec are quite near to HD2
But, who wanna waste time and resources in porting WP7
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so is pretty much every other phone released at that time
The hd2 had all the drivers from wm6.5....
this is NEVER going to happen.
All you n00bs should go back to n00bland and stop wasting everyones time
scoobysnacks said:
there is already a thread on this
NO IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
There are TONS of phones with an unlocked bootloader, and only the hd2 had a wp7 port.
People need to get realistic, this type of bs is not helping anyone or anything.
We are NOT going to get WP7 or Sense......
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Your wrong about the sense thing straight away. One of my mates is port sense right now as we speak and he has got it to boot on my x10 so the sense. Not saying its going to work but the fact he got it to boot is the main thing. All there is now is to get everything working again.
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sammyjc89 said:
Your wrong about the sense thing straight away. One of my mates is port sense right now as we speak and he has got it to boot on my x10 so the sense. Not saying its going to work but the fact he got it to boot is the main thing. All there is now is to get everything working again.
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yes it has been ported to other phones too, but never fully working. That is with hundreds of developers too, and they ended up giving up.
Go look at sgs forums, etc...
A bunch of non-devs talking about how we are going to get all these awesome roms suddenly ported
good luck guys!
scoobysnacks said:
there is already a thread on this
NO IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
There are TONS of phones with an unlocked bootloader, and only the hd2 had a wp7 port.
People need to get realistic, this type of bs is not helping anyone or anything.
We are NOT going to get WP7 or Sense......
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That's because they took the drivers, modules, etc. from the WM HD2. But still, it doesn't mean we can't do it. Like I said, you need to rewrite most of the system files. And again, I'm sure there is not one person who is damn dedicated on doing this.
scoobysnacks said:
yes it has been ported to other phones too, but never fully working. That is with hundreds of developers too, and they ended up giving up.
Go look at sgs forums, etc...
A bunch of non-devs talking about how we are going to get all these awesome roms suddenly ported
good luck guys!
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Actually they are still working it right now as I have the nexus s and I use the nexus sense on my phone also the dens in the sgs forums having been working real hard on and I know that because I talk to the devs working on the port. We now have data, bt, WiFi, video is bot laggy and that's what they are fixing right now. Not far to go if you ask me. Also that looks to me that they haven't given up.
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sammyjc89 said:
Actually they are still working it right now as I have the nexus s and I use the nexus sense on my phone also the dens in the sgs forums having been working real hard on and I know that because I talk to the devs working on the port. We now have data, bt, WiFi, video is bot laggy and that's what they are fixing right now. Not far to go if you ask me. Also that looks to me that they haven't given up.
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link me to them
I will say though that sense is more feasible than wp7 that's for sure..
though it is still an insane amount of work.
sense has such a complicated framework it needs in order to function properly.
I agree, there is a bunch of people with not knowledge about porting roms and development (even me) that just asks if it's possible or not.
Answers like these:
'People need to get realistic, this type of bs is not helping anyone or anything.' are just annoying people.
Answers like these:
'That's because they took the drivers, modules, etc. from the WM HD2. But still, it doesn't mean we can't do it. Like I said, you need to rewrite most of the system files. And again, I'm sure there is not one person who is damn dedicated on doing this. '
might be acceptable.
Please do not take my post offensive,I just want to say how it looks like 'from here' because it happened to me a few times, just for being curious.
Regarding the question, I know you can have the launcher,homescreen style but not the whole rom because of what he said.Even there is an app for W7 style,called Android 7,I posted a few screenshots on my thread.
nanodroid said:
I agree, there is a bunch of people with not knowledge about porting roms and development (even me) that just asks if it's possible or not.
Answers like these:
'People need to get realistic, this type of bs is not helping anyone or anything.' are just annoying people.
Answers like these:
'That's because they took the drivers, modules, etc. from the WM HD2. But still, it doesn't mean we can't do it. Like I said, you need to rewrite most of the system files. And again, I'm sure there is not one person who is damn dedicated on doing this. '
might be acceptable.
Please do not take my post offensive,I just want to say how it looks like 'from here' because it happened to me a few times, just for being curious.
Regarding the question, I know you can have the launcher,homescreen style but not the whole rom because of what he said.Even there is an app for W7 style,called Android 7,I posted a few screenshots on my thread.
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so what you think starting threads like this in the development section is ok?
Oh Yeah you wanted ios lol ...
attack of the noobs!
p.s. the best wp7 launcher is called launcher7
nanodroid said:
I agree, there is a bunch of people with not knowledge about porting roms and development (even me) that just asks if it's possible or not.
Answers like these:
'People need to get realistic, this type of bs is not helping anyone or anything.' are just annoying people.
Answers like these:
'That's because they took the drivers, modules, etc. from the WM HD2. But still, it doesn't mean we can't do it. Like I said, you need to rewrite most of the system files. And again, I'm sure there is not one person who is damn dedicated on doing this. '
might be acceptable.
Please do not take my post offensive,I just want to say how it looks like 'from here' because it happened to me a few times, just for being curious.
Regarding the question, I know you can have the launcher,homescreen style but not the whole rom because of what he said.Even there is an app for W7 style,called Android 7,I posted a few screenshots on my thread.
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Big thanks for understanding my point for this thread
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scoobysnacks said:
so what you think starting threads like this in the development section is ok?
Oh Yeah you wanted ios lol ...
attack of the noobs!
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No.I think it would be in the wrong section.
And I didn't want ios, I asked if it could be done and as I said, just for asking.If you read the threads well instead of turning negative with your 'attack the noobs' thinking..

Will Photon Die??????

As we all know that there is not many developers for this photon 4g like other mobile phones ..
so i think that if there are not developers for the photon 4g then photon will die soon
what u say about this ??????
only way my photon is dying is if i forget to plug it in
I Just want to know what the hell it is you people expect?
20, 30 Roms? That all use a slightly different deodexed base? and have a different set of icons or themes? And all introduce a new set of crap that only partially works?
I mean really - there are only so many things you can do to a rom before they all become the same damn thing with a different name and "dev".
Most of what I see out there is a guy tweaking his phone, removing bloat ware,claiming "ZOMG Battery and Speed!", dumping /system into a Zip file and that someone else made and posting it for someone else to flash to their phone
Want to learn how to do it?
Flash aliens rom, tweak it how you like it, add some icons and themeing (the brunt of the work).
adb pull /system/ C:\Users\Username\Desktop
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Copy all of that into Aliens Zip file, post it is a rom for people to flash - almost 0 effort to do anything but the art - which you can steal from just about anyone online and call it a "port".
/rant
That was just rude. .. this is best phone but when you compare Bionic and stupid 3d threads...well i see what he means ...and Roms are not usually the same.. Some have performance tweaks...like 4g on unlocked bootloader. Speed increase, themes and mods.. Nothing wrong with him trying to get or rally development support like some of the inferior phones have. Remember, this is a development site...
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ejdavis said:
like 4g on unlocked bootloader.
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Not a function of the Rom - Lockfish (I think?) has just been able to figure out how to fix it outside of the issue with the bootloader.
I'm not being rude - I was being honest, but there is a thread at least every other day talking about how lack luster our dev section is. This IS a development forum - and I showed him (really basically) how to make a rom. No?
Honestly, when you get 5 or 6 different roms out there - there are enough similarities between them and not enough differences that there really isn't much of a point. 99% of what most people experience from ROM to ROM is placebo.
It appears both the OP and Kcarp were both in the wrong on this one, and for this reason:
OP - Phone development will progress only as fast as sources are released. This phone is still new enough to where developers are still waiting on critical components to really be able to customize this phone. Do not expect this forum to jump off like an HTC (insert model here) forum, but instead, anticipate seasoned developers finding and introducing mods, tweaks and more efficient ways to unlock the bootloader over the coming weeks/months.
Kcarp - C'monnnn man, you're better than that rant. You've been around long enough (hell, I remember ya from the Hero days) to know that these types of threads pop up weekly, and sometimes it's best just to ignore them. I know you meant well, but the last thing we want to do is scare off future developers from posting here as this phone gets older, when so many are leaving XDA as it is.
I am also getting sick of these whiny threads. This phone gets close to the battery life of my evo shift running a cm7 clone, locks gps about 100x's faster and gets a better data and call signal everywhere. My phone is stock rooted with no bloatware touched. It may take some time but even IF development never goes far with this phone, i'd still be happy with it.
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shabbypenguin said:
only way my photon is dying is if i forget to plug it in
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Damn it, you beat me to it.
All I need is CM7 Or a sense 3.5 rom, blur sucks
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pwrmedia said:
Kcarp - C'monnnn man, you're better than that rant. You've been around long enough (hell, I remember ya from the Hero days) to know that these types of threads pop up weekly, and sometimes it's best just to ignore them. I know you meant well, but the last thing we want to do is scare off future developers from posting here as this phone gets older, when so many are leaving XDA as it is.
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*runs away with his tale between his legs*
pwrmedia said:
It appears both the OP and Kcarp were both in the wrong on this one, and for this reason:
OP - Phone development will progress only as fast as sources are released. This phone is still new enough to where developers are still waiting on critical components to really be able to customize this phone.
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The epic touch 4G came out after it and has at least 10 to 12 roms
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i want to say that like other devices that developers port thing to device like new thing and Android latest OS ..you can see that older device google nexus one and nexus s has the ICS and this thing is done by the developers of that devices .if developers leave to port the thing and Updated Android then devices are able to run application and play games which are only supported the updated Android OS
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i want to say that like other devices that developers port thing to device like new thing and Android latest OS ..you can see that older device google nexus one and nexus s has the ICS and this thing is done by the developers of that devices .if developers leave to port the thing and Updated Android then devices are able to run application and play games which are only supported the updated Android OS
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Established developers will get to this phone eventually. CWM will add the phone into the ROM Manager database, and Cyanogen and others will eventually port their versions to ours. Have patience or be prepared to sell your phone on Ebay/Craigslist if you just can't wait.
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guys i love this phone but asking question (which are meaningless ) is for to satisfy my heart
i love tegra2
pwrmedia said:
Established developers will get to this phone eventually. CWM will add the phone into the ROM Manager database, and Cyanogen and others will eventually port their versions to ours. Have patience or be prepared to sell your phone on Ebay/Craigslist if you just can't wait.
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Ha
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This phone is Damn near the Best you are going to get out of the box. All those other phones NEED Rom's to run as good as our phone does Out Of The Box. Moto has updated this phone 3x in less than 2 months ALREADY (it would take Sammy 2 years to update the SGS2 3x). There is a rumor I have seen that Moto is working on ANOTHER update for this Amazing phone.
I could careless if I get ROM's or not. It works Great for me as is. I was lucky enough to get Grand Fathered into Unlimited Mobile Hotspot Data since I have been a customer since 1997 and spoke with a Retentions Manager (Politely) and she took care of me). No 5G Cap for me and my area is 4G Saturated. Use the Hotspot for my Xoom, HP Touchpad and Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0. I am Very, Very Happy with this phone.
Had the OG EVO before this phone and was putting ROM's/Kernels on it all the time (last one was Synergy SC2). Got tired of that. It's nice to just have a phone that WORKS like it's supposed to without ROM's.
Nothing wrong with the photon... quit crying
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I have seen some good 3d games from gameloft in the market but most of them appears as incopatible with my mopho, does anybody knows if this is a hardware incopatibility issue or another way to get them.
WTF is this ..........
ghodzilla5150 said:
This phone is Damn near the Best you are going to get out of the box. All those other phones NEED Rom's to run as good as our phone does Out Of The Box. Moto has updated this phone 3x in less than 2 months ALREADY (it would take Sammy 2 years to update the SGS2 3x). There is a rumor I have seen that Moto is working on ANOTHER update for this Amazing phone.
I could careless if I get ROM's or not. It works Great for me as is. I was lucky enough to get Grand Fathered into Unlimited Mobile Hotspot Data since I have been a customer since 1997 and spoke with a Retentions Manager (Politely) and she took care of me). No 5G Cap for me and my area is 4G Saturated. Use the Hotspot for my Xoom, HP Touchpad and Samsung Galaxy Player 5.0. I am Very, Very Happy with this phone.
Had the OG EVO before this phone and was putting ROM's/Kernels on it all the time (last one was Synergy SC2). Got tired of that. It's nice to just have a phone that WORKS like it's supposed to without ROM's.
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Big +1 here. Epic 4g needed roms just to last a day on battery and to be fast enough to keep up with certain applications. Problem with the ROMs is that even journaled, they'd get buggy after a few weeks, or there would be just something about a ROM that would annoy me. Once it got dual boot capability I was flashing ROMs left and right. It got to be where I was flashing ROMs just to flash ROMs, like I forgot other ways to kill boredom.
I don't feel an immediate need to flash ROMs. If CM7 comes stable to the photon I'll probably try it just to see what the fuss is about. However, I'm more interested in eventual ICS. I'm happy for root because of Titanium backup and other such things that you need root to run. The battery is great, and it's plenty fast enough. There is one thing about this phone that no ROM could give me on the Epic 4g... the ability to make a phone call at work. The antenna is far superior.
the only thing I'd like to see dying Is this troll thread
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Don't root your Razr, why rooting?

Hi Everyone,
I know may be you don't like my thread's name, It is my opinion and I want to know your opinion.
The reason why I'm asking this, simply because I rooted my Razr XT910 to ICS and I really regret. You will tell me , unroot, sure I can do. But I want to pass my experience and to everyone cannot wait to root his Razr.
Ok my reasons are as follows:
1- If you are not very careful you simply can lose your phone
2-After rooting from 2.3.6 on Razr XT910 to ICS 4.0.4 and after the tension because of my mistake and was going to lose my Razr, I found the ICS very basic not much to add to UI. Meaning no widgets like contacts favourites and many others so simply you have to keep installing apps either free or buying not like the original 2.3.6.
3- Not fast as expected
4- No enough support for the Razr XT910 very minimal. Everything is for Droid Razr XT912. I did a mistake by installing a rom for Droid Razr and it blocked my phone and I had to use RSD to install SBF.
5- Themes are very poor
Again guys this is a personal opinion, just wanted to share it with you and to think twice before rooting you Razr XT910
My ROM is Razr-AOKP-GSM-J.Y.Daddy
BTW, I tried Eternity project for Razr XT910 and I got Installation aborted message and again no help in its thread how to overcome the issue
There is more to rooting a phone then just install roms.
Some programs need root to give all the benefits they have, like Rootbrowser, System tuner Pro and SetCPU.
With a rooted phone I can set my cpu level during day, work hours and night.
I can freeze and unfreeze bloatware, make backups and optimize my phone as I like to with or without a rom.
That's why I got it rooted.
Mataraty said:
There is more to rooting a phone then just install roms.
Some programs need root to give all the benefits they have, like Rootbrowser, System tuner Pro and SetCPU.
With a rooted phone I can set my cpu level during day, work hours and night.
I can freeze and unfreeze bloatware, make backups and optimize my phone as I like to with or without a rom.
That's why I got it rooted.
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Great thanks for sharing. To add more benefits for everybody why don't you add more explanations on how to do these things.
The current ICS roms are built for GB kernel.. Pretty impressive really..
Also wrong section
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FrAsErTaG said:
The current ICS roms are built for GB kernel.. Pretty impressive really..
Also wrong section
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First of all, thanks for your help earlier you saved my phone from crashing.
Second, I thought the development section is the proper one to discuss rooting matter. Or what do you think?
In addition, how many stable roms are out there for XT910 same like yours. Please mention some.
Thanks
flupo2000 said:
First of all, thanks for your help earlier you saved my phone from crashing.
Second, I thought the development section is the proper one to discuss rooting matter. Or what do you think?
In addition, how many stable roms are out there for XT910 same like yours. Please mention some.
Thanks
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No, that belongs in the General section. If you want to discuss a rooting that you did in the Development section, then you would comment on the thread where you received your information for the ROM you chose to place on your phone. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1344531
....Wow, just wow. *palm to forehead*
@flupo: You have a rogers razr, I'm guessing, which is why you can't get the leak. Give it time, you'll get real ics. Really can't believe you felt the need to make a thread about this lol.
I have the Rogers Razr as well and I'm running J Daddy's custom CM9. Works very well as a daily driver. I don't have a need for bluetooth and I can live without the video recording function. All users understand that these builds are in development and do not provide all the functions flawlessly. So your only options are to wait for an official build from Motorola or hope that somehow a bootloader bypass/unlock comes around that will allow us to use the kernel+radio from the Chinese/European ICS and have a ROM that is more streamlined than the current development builds.
Rooting is not the same as installing a ROM. Updating from GB to ICS is installing a new ROM which has absolutely nothing to do with "Root" in most situations.
Root is the Linux way of saying Admin Account. With "root" access to a phone, you literally have permission to do anything you want, install anything you want, remove anything you want, and run anything even if it requires permissions that are normally rejected on a unrooted phone.
Apps that require root that I use on a regular basis: TitaniumBackup, AdFree, Terminal Emulator, WiFi Tether, and ES File Explorer. There are many others. None of these have anything to do with installing ICS or not.
Your thread title is misleading and it is in the wrong forum. Developers create threads in the Development section, only. You can reply to one of their threads if appropriate, but to create a new discussion on something it should be in General.
You should read through a lot more threads, ask questions in the general section, and generally understand a lot more before you start trying to modify your phone like this. That should be the warning you tell people. People shouldn't just jump in and start modifying their phone's OS until they know what OS, Root, ROM, and a bunch of other terms mean and what they do.
Lol.I have a galaxy nexus i root the day i got it,i also have a Droid razr maxx that I haven't root yet.Thanks for this thread I'm diff not going to root now.
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Wrong section.
Root 'n rool!
lol
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Dont tell people not to root when your not knowledgable on this stuff
Ohh Canadians, Canadians.....
pedrotorresfilho said:
Wrong section.
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Wrong topic :-D
Everyone remember that guy in class that would stand up in the front of class and tell everyone not to do something because it was "wrong?" even though he didn't even know why himself?
This thread actually happened...
this thread was brought to you by an educational system somewhere on THIS planet. We're sorry.
Lmfao^^^^^^
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Read carefully and thoroughly and you won't have a problem. Rush in and flash the first file you find and you'll quickly end up with a brick. Getting the most out of any device requires an investment time-wise, and if you're not prepared to make that investment you shouldn't be flashing anything.
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Thanks for sharing
Obviously from most of your comments, I did a mistake by making such a question in this section. Sorry about that but I thought it is the right one where people read about rooting.
Second, These are my previous smartphone list which I did rooting for all of them and it went fine with no crashes:
HTC Tytn 2
Sony Ericson Experia
HTC Touch Pro
HTC Diamond 1 and 2
HTC HD
HTC HD2
HTC Desire
So may be from the above you can see guys that I have some experience in rooting and I read a lot about it.
The reason for my thread was to raise the issue that there is no enough support for the great Razr especially XT910. As per Motorola support team whom I discussed with, the upgrade from GB to ICS is in the planing phase and might take about another 3-4 months.
Any how I tried to do that to see if I can solve the issue for having ICS on XT910 or not before selling it and go back to HTC with HTC One X.
Last, it will be great to have a professional forum that has talented people respect each other not like the respectable person whom said "ohh Canadians Canadians"
Everyone of those phones you listed are HTC devices including the Sony Ericson.
That's probably why you stuffed up because this is not a HTC device. Not to mention the majority are native windows mobile phones..
Do you know some one named planetone?
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[Q] new phone long wait?

i know i posted up earlier about the red border. Everything is good now. I just now have questions about this phone and its development stages. Since for some reason i cant post in dev page. I have to ask here.
So i was half tempted to not get this phone simply because i browsed the threads and saw no real roms or kernals that do anything fancy. I come from an evo 3d and could flash a rom every single day if i wanted because there were so many. I know this phone is new how new im still not sure upon. I see a real lack of any development on here. The best you can get is turning your og into a nexus 4 and than have cm 10.1 with the downside of only 8gigs of storage period. Well that was the whole reason i did not just pick up the htc one x was because there was no expandable memory and at most you had 10g of internal storage and thats it! so whats going on here? I know alot about the scene and though i have no coding experience myself nor rom building experience. I do love to test roms and i really want a not a stock feel to the phone. Where is the overclocking, where is the transperent status bar, where is anything to make this phone really stick out from stock? Hell i was running jb 4.2 on my evo 3d. Now im stuck being back on ICS? How is this possible that there is not stable jb port to this phone that is properly working. I have 14 days to return this phone. And with people releasing roms that the camera does not work, and storage is crap, and no overclocking support, is it because this is not the phone i thought it could be? Am i not doing enough research. Im currently rooted, unlocked, and running nocturnal limited, and i still feel stock and still 4.04.
Is this phone going to be heavily dev supported like the evo 3d is still today or should i return it and get a phone like the htc one that actually has dev support. All the roms i have seen for this phone is almost complete garbage interms of what this phone should be capable of. And the idea of turning into a nexus 4 is the most idiotic thing i ever heard.... let me change my phone to be another phone? Who wanted that and why did they just not go and get the nexus 4? I may be ranting but i could have got the htc one for .99 as opposed to the $100 i paid to sign a contract with att. I want to know if i am really getting jipped here. Is this not the phone plenty rave about? If your on this site there is no way you want a stock feeling phone and thats what i feel we are getting. I donated to get the freegee app to find out there is no good roms therefor no need to unlock the bootloader so i can flash roms that are not here..........
please dont come at me like a hard a$$ and talk crap, im simply expressing an opinion and asking questions. I loved my evo3d and if i have to carry both around because my 3 year old phone is 10 times better than this optimus im going to be upset. I would just like someone to explain what is in the works with this phone, and if and when there will be some real dev support and why there is almost non at the moment. It sad when devs are still all over the 3d posting new roms everyday, and this one has 5 that are garbage?
thank you for your actual intelligent responses, and cant wait for some nerd raging on me for blasting this out like this. Im simply being real.
Try reading this forum for the answers to your questions. Then maybe sell your OG to someone who appreciates it and knows what to do with it. Sounds like you'd be better off with a SG3. Good luck.
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Wow.... I'll take your OG if you don't want it. Seriously, I will.
This is why I like having iOS around. That way we can weed out the idiots from android. You should really check out the iPhone. I hear it can make phone calls. You should like it.
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exactly the responses i was expecting lol.....
Its clearly obvious i have read the forums as i am rooted, unlocked with twrp and nocturnal limited rom... so thank you for pointing out how much i have not read.
As for the sg3...... well thats is just an over priced piece of trash everyone i know hates them.... so thanks but piss off...
as for your iphone comment... only mainstream looooooosers have iphones as they are for the dumb...
no you may not have my optimus if i do anything with it , it will go back to att and ill get a htc one x+ at least people are doing things or at least talking of things they are doing.
HTC has huge dev support and this being my first LG i knew it was going to take some getting used to. I was just hoping for a little more out of this highly praised machine. It is a great phone, i will not say its not. I just was expecting from such a great phone a huge dev following of which i do not see. I see about 5 different roms, a custom cwm touch recovery, and hmmm..... turning your optimus into a nexus.. For you thinking that i am bashing on lg and should give it away.... there is people here pretending there phones are different phones... "hey look i know it says lg but is totally a nexus!" I can download a launcher that makes my phone look like a windows phone.... but hmmmm how dumb is that? At the end of this rant, i was curious as to what anyone knows about the future of the development on this phone. Clearly you do not have answers because that would take thinking, your idiotic comments and replys did nothing to offer any sort of answer nor did it show your IQ being anywhere near that of a 10 year old..
I clearly posted i await your nerd rage and therefore clearly enjoy it, however this thread was not started with the sole intent of it being a bickering fest. I wanted some serious answers, and I tried to express myself and thoughts on this phone along with questions that involved the future of this phone.
I am a flashaholic, i love to make my phones the best they can be. I love anything custom! So if you wanna cry about my thoughts on the phone cry, ill bring you a tissue, otherwise offer some real insight into what this phone is all about, and hopefully where this phone might be heading. Otherwise take your trolling, crying , butthurt comments somewhere else, as they are just absolutely humorous to me, and ill will reply accordingly.
Thanks and hope to hear some real comments...
btw: i cant wait for the grammer police comments cause it seems if no one has something good to say, they just like to correct your grammer, sort of like "your a tool" "no, your a tool" and we can definatly take this back to 1st grade if you like.
Joecascio2000 said:
This is why I like having iOS around. That way we can weed out the idiots from android. You should really check out the iPhone. I hear it can make phone calls. You should like it.
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look what i found... while i was busy not reading btw
"have the AT&T LGOG and it's rooted with unlocked boot loader and is running a custom ROM called The Base. Devs are working hard to build a way to easily port any Nexus 4 ROM. They have CM10 working but are still working out the kinks before releasing it. CM9 and a stock AOSP rom are also in the works. The Base is a stock, rooted, and debloated ROM and it is already out. Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. Since it is very similar to the Nexus 4, once all the hard work is done building the device tree, roms are gonna come flying out."
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I do believe its a great phone, but heavily relying on nexus devs to do all the dirty work, granted they are practically the same. Again i wanted to know whats up with this phone.
Stop. Seriously, just stop right now.
If all of these features are important to you, and flashing a new rom everyday gives your life some meaning, then you made an idiotic move purchasing this phone.
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look what i found... while i was busy not reading btw
"have the AT&T LGOG and it's rooted with unlocked boot loader and is running a custom ROM called The Base. Devs are working hard to build a way to easily port any Nexus 4 ROM. They have CM10 working but are still working out the kinks before releasing it. CM9 and a stock AOSP rom are also in the works. The Base is a stock, rooted, and debloated ROM and it is already out. Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. Since it is very similar to the Nexus 4, once all the hard work is done building the device tree, roms are gonna come flying out."
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I do believe its a great phone, but heavily relying on nexus devs to do all the dirty work, granted they are practically the same. Again i wanted to know whats up with this phone.
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And...? Everything I said is true.
LGOG is rooted and has unlocked bootloader
Has stock roms (The Base, Slick, Noc)
Devs are still working on a way to port Nexus 4 roms (I believe it has to do with building a device tree and obtaining source for JB kernel)
CM10 (an actual ROM, not the N4 conversion) is "almost" done (About 3 weeks ago a dev said it booted and they could hear the lock screen but couldn't see the display due to driver issues.
A dev was working on CM9 but I believe they stopped because there was no point in releasing an outdated ROM.
Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. - Fact (Development is a slow process. They have made huge progress in only a few months. This phone isn't like samsung. They are working from a locked down system with no source code. They are amazing for what they do. They are some of the best devs on XDA.)
Once we have on bootable ROM, which will happen, Roms will be coming out quickly.
So I guess the real question is, "Do you actually know how to read?"
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And...? Everything I said is true.
LGOG is rooted and has unlocked bootloader
Has stock roms (The Base, Slick, Noc)
Devs are still working on a way to port Nexus 4 roms (I believe it has to do with building a device tree and obtaining source for JB kernel)
CM10 (an actual ROM, not the N4 conversion) is "almost" done (About 3 weeks ago a dev said it booted and they could hear the lock screen but couldn't see the display due to driver issues.
A dev was working on CM9 but I believe they stopped because there was no point in releasing an outdated ROM.
Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. - Fact (Development is a slow process. They have made huge progress in only a few months. This phone isn't like samsung. They are working from a locked down system with no source code. They are amazing for what they do. They are some of the best devs on XDA.)
Once we have on bootable ROM, which will happen, Roms will be coming out quickly.
So I guess the real question is, "Do you actually know how to read?"
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never said it wasnt true, just was in response to your ignorant iphone comment as well as the learn to read comment. Stop nerd raging for a minute, how hard is it to answer the questions? I already made a comment on the cm10.1 in my op.....all of the stuff you listed in your comment i already did... I asked what is next? What do you think the future dev is? Will this actually have a strong dev following? Will there be any decent , stable, overclocked, tweaked roms to come to this phone.
Thank you for finally giving me a little more of an answer than a mean spirited remark. I am no idiot, i did not post anywhere in this forum newb questions on how to root my lg, or unlock it, or flash a recovery, or install a rom..... I wanted to know what is really going on with this phone. So thank you joe for actually answering my questions.
gregk232 said:
Stop. Seriously, just stop right now.
If all of these features are important to you, and flashing a new rom everyday gives your life some meaning, then you made an idiotic move purchasing this phone.
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You sir..... Is your computer broken, are you stuck on my thread and only my thread which is preventing you from looking at anything else, instead of making a dumb rude comment? Stop trolling every thread and post that is on the site.... you talk about giving my life meaning and here you are telling me to stop it? Hmmmm who are you? I asked questions and my personal feelings on the phone thus far, and in no way bashed the phone or its following. I simply asked questions. I posted joes comment because as i read i actually found it useful. So thanks for peeking in this thread but your comments are best left in that pea sized thing rattling around in your giant head some might call a brain.. I asked questions in the Q and A forum......your comment was neither a q nor an a thus GTFO! XDA is where is got a lot of my EVO 3D questions answered and i respect this site. Its arseholes like you that make people scared to ask questions for fear of some ignorant jacka$$ trying to put them down.
I however can not and will not be intimidated, if i have done anything to violate the terms of this forum, please report me and have me banned. Your STOP IT attack was in no way useful.
SO..... STOP IT, JUST STOP IT!
ripbabey said:
never said it wasnt true, just was in response to your ignorant iphone comment as well as the learn to read comment. Stop nerd raging for a minute, how hard is it to answer the questions? I already made a comment on the cm10.1 in my op.....all of the stuff you listed in your comment i already did... I asked what is next? What do you think the future dev is? Will this actually have a strong dev following? Will there be any decent , stable, overclocked, tweaked roms to come to this phone.
Thank you for finally giving me a little more of an answer than a mean spirited remark. I am no idiot, i did not post anywhere in this forum newb questions on how to root my lg, or unlock it, or flash a recovery, or install a rom..... I wanted to know what is really going on with this phone. So thank you joe for actually answering my questions.
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Wish I had better news. We are all eagerly and (in)patiently waiting for the first release of non-stock roms. Unfortunately, it's just a waiting game. Right now it's LG's move and they are taking their sweet little time. We do have a strong dev following. They are lurking in the shadows. We are very fortunate that we have both an international version of this phone and also the Nexus 4. That gives us two pools where ROMs can be ported from. Just like the Nexus S, i9000, and Samsung Captivate. All of which are still going strong. It took time to get things setup for those phones and like I said we are at a disadvantage because LG isn't as "helpful" as Samsung. Development will take off one way or another, we just have to wait.
IMHO though, nobody should be complaining because stock LG is amazing. And the stock ROMs are perfect.
Dude....
Your entire post sounds like one big vagina monologue.
"There is not enough dev support for this phone..... I can't believe we don't have a stable JB ROM..... I want to flash a new rom every day....."
Waaa waaa waaa :crying::crying::crying::crying:
No one is intimidating you.
Just making the point that you obviously did not act like a rational consumer by purchasing a product that does not meet your expectations, then complain about it in the QA section.
Not sure why you needed to create this thread. Return the phone and get something else if you aren't happy with it. It's not rocket science, lol.
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Oh look, it's this thread again
Guys, settle down please. Let's not turn this into the i777 forums. I'd rather not relive that.
This phone is too powerful to not be developed, but developing for ICS is pointless when JB is coming. There will be much more development. You must just be patient. But in all honesty, Samsung and HTC will probably always have more development, so if you are a flashaholic, I would go with the SIII.
"Ye best start believin' in troll threads... Yer in one."
chrisphoenix7 said:
"Ye best start believin' in troll threads... Yer in one."
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Hahaha! F*****g brilliant!
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gregk232 said:
Hahaha! F*****g brilliant!
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Yes! In before thread closed!:banghead::banghead::banghead:
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They wouldn't close this thread, it has been nothing but honest, intelligent, mature, informative discussion.
But honestly, this has been asked a lot... We are hoping development will pick up after the source is released and JB hits our device.
But there are no guarantees, it is kind of your fault for picking up a device (great as it may be) that doesn't have 20+ ROMs out for it, you should have looked here first and shied away from the device if development was so important.
Based on what we have heard from devs, the work is being done, it is slow going with no source and nobody wants to work on ICS when JB is coming so soon.
Also, one of the biggest problems here, you called what development we have seen released "garbage," most likely (hopefully) the devs can dismiss that statement as the angry rantings of somebody with a bad filter, but it is still terrible motivation to spur development further.
Work has gone into the development we have seen, it may not have quite the shock and awe factor you are looking for, but they are solid works.
It sounded like you were very unappreciative and then demanded more, maybe not your intention, but that is how it can be construed.
I'm not trying to bash you in any way, but the community does better when there is less... negativity.
Also, no need to be so defensive, you knew you would get the responses you did, should have just let them slide.
chrisphoenix7 said:
Guys, settle down please. Let's not turn this into the i777 forums. I'd rather not relive that.
This phone is too powerful to not be developed, but developing for ICS is pointless when JB is coming. There will be much more development. You must just be patient. But in all honesty, Samsung and HTC will probably always have more development, so if you are a flashaholic, I would go with the SIII.
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dood i agree the i777 forums was a nightmare with all the immaturity attitude around
I get the feeling OP is the kind of guy that complains when he gets free stuff.
As for getting a new phone, good riddance. You really didn't need to make this thread. A lot of us are waiting on custom ROMs and CM10 and all that. You don't see us whining about it like a little girl (no offense ladies )

[Q] Newbie on Windows Phones (from Android)

Hello there
I'm an Android user, and I like switching between many ROMs, manipulating a bit (even if I don't know much).
But a friend of mine has a HTC Titan, and I was wondering what could we do about those phones. I mean, can we change to custom ROMs ? Are there as many as there is on droids, is it as easy (or kind of) as Androids, or is it dangerous, are there any risks, etc. What are the possibilities ?
Thank you in advance for your answer
pef6000 said:
Hello there
I'm an Android user, and I like switching between many ROMs, manipulating a bit (even if I don't know much).
But a friend of mine has a HTC Titan, and I was wondering what could we do about those phones. I mean, can we change to custom ROMs ? Are there as many as there is on droids, is it as easy (or kind of) as Androids, or is it dangerous, are there any risks, etc. What are the possibilities ?
Thank you in advance for your answer
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The simple answer here is...No! There are three variants of the Titan; the first one was a coon's age ago and the last two might as well be from different planets. The "Eternity" variant is the one you want; the "Radiance" variant is a lesson in futility as are all future Windows Phones. In an earlier life the Windows Mobile 6.x platform could be customized in every way Android is today. Windows Phone 7 comes along and the braintrust at every carrier and Microsoft decided to make life hard for us who enjoy customizing our phones and you'd think common sense would win the day...oh no...despite a 3.1% marketshare and royally pissing off every WP7 phone owner along the way they continue to lock these phones down and as more than a few Lumia 920 (WP8) owners will tell you the latest update now won't allow them to edit their mobile data speed and most are now stuck on LTE and what do we know about LTE boys and girls....one, not everybody has it; two, a lot of folks don't have it; and three, you can't edit the device to HSPA+, 3G or 2G as we Eternity variant Titans can. To answer your question head on - The Titan II cannot be tinkered with and no device since can on WP7 or WP8 platforms. Prior to Titan II...you bet; the HTC HD2 is the device you want for tinkering on any platform known to man; one look at its XDA main page will tell you its your device of choice for customized flashing of any ROM on any platform and it is extremely doubtful there will be another device like it ever made again, but one can wish...hopelessly. All that said, I love my Titan I, the Eternity. There are multiple level of locks...there's Interop, Developer and HSPL and you need all of them to play. It is not for the faint of heart, this is not Android....I can tell you I successfully HSPL my phones but I can also tell you I was scared to death I bricked them too, but there is a world of difference between a WP phone you can install your own apps like the Windows Mobile days or be so locked down there's no joy in any of it. Today, I'm on the fence as to whether to remain with Windows Phone despite what appears they finally got right with WP8 but I'm sick of this attitude that our devices have to be locked down that you're left to their whims not your own. One look at the WP pages will tell you development is little compared to Android. I ordered my wife's HTC One from HTC for $649.99, the 64GB Developer Edition and the next thing I did was install Launcher 8. Yes, under the hood it's different but it made for easy navigation of apps. I expect someone on Android is going to create a "live" tile for a WP8 skin of Android and likely I'm gone from WP. I'm not aware there is any further development going on over at WP7.8; there is some rumor that across the pond there is to be a WP7.9 release but as to what that is likely to entail; I don't know. Rumor is begging for a better bluetooth interface which is sorely missed even on WP8...what were they thinking? If you use Skype, it doesn't run in background on WP7.x. It's a mix bag...I love the platform, I'm sick of how the powers that be have really ruined it for us who enjoy it for what it is...different and I'm not kidding when I say this, it runs as smooth as butter; I simply do not understand the brain trust behind it and why they made it so damn hard for those of us who have been loyal to them for years.
Well said, even a rooted titan with a custom rom is not in the same league as a HD2 running WM.... its a real same those days have gone!
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rowlie50 said:
Well said, even a rooted titan with a custom rom is not in the same league as a HD2 running WM.... its a real same those days have gone!
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Or an HD2 running WP7.8 or as I am currently the NexusHD which I'm about to update to NativeSD with his most recent release. I am so fet up with all the obstacles that Windows Phone owners have had to put up with and even if you are HSPL and Developer and Interop Unlocked there are still obstacles and Android there is none and I simply don't understand the logic of what Microsoft and carriers are trying to accomplish; you'd think they'd welcome what contributors at XDA have done and maybe flashing my Titan today is a good example trying to setup Straight Talk with MMS, make Bing Map and Windows Phone Marketplace play nice and nope, no can do! Android? No problem. Throw my HD2 into the mix and despite only having EDGE; it all works but the bottom line is, you shouldn't have to pay for what you benefit from using W-Fi not mobile data.
Thank you guys for your answers. So I suppose there is no advantage of customisation with Windows Phones ^^
Take a look in the Titan ROM development, i,m running Dynamics 2.0 by ultrashot.... best ROM in my opinion. I edited the registry so it thinks its a Nokia, this way I get all the nokia apps. Read the thread to get a good idea of what a custom ROM gives you. Rumour has it that version 2.2 coming soon so keep an eye out. Rooting the Titan really is risky so read up on it before you take the plunge!
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Thank you ! I'll check that

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