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1. are roms basically firmware upgrades?
2. how do you benefit from having an upgraded/updated rom?
3. i was reading for the Blackstone and Diamond roms you need to unlock your phone, how are the blackstone and diamond roms different to the HardSPL roms?
4. all my contacts/emails/appointments are synced though an exchange server, so i take it i dont need to back up? i dont have anything else installed on it.
5. also i noticed my phone is windows mobile 6.1 are these roms going to conflict with windows mobile 6.5 if i decide to upgrade?
thanks!
EDIT: after doing some reading i found these 2 links to 6.5+rom i think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517296
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=474406
now i have a sixth question: what are the differences between the KITCHEN and ENERGYROM versions? they look a little different but are there big changes on the backend?
Some things to understand:
* A ROM is a replacement firmware. The ones you'll find here are, by and large, custom-created ROMs. The people who "cook" (create) them are called "chefs."
* A kitchen isn't a ROM at all. It's an environment for creating one. The chefs use them, and a few very valuable members of this community provide the kitchens that are used as starting points by most chefs. Da_G's kitchen is frequently used; he's gone to some pains to make the cooking experience fairly straightforward for beginners, and there's lots of discussion in his thread about ways for more ambitious and knowledgeable chefs to enhance it.
* EnergyROM, which you mention, is one of the more popular ROMs here. The chef maintains a few different versions of it as well.
* In order to flash a non-official ROM, meaning anything created by a chef here, you'll need to first flash HARDSPL. The flash will fail otherwise.
* Most/all ROMs on this forum are for GSM Raphael-series phones -- Such as the AT&T Fuze and T-Mobile Touch Pro. Attempting to flash these ROMs on a CDMA phone, like the ones from Verizon and Sprint, won't work and could brick your phone.
* As far as benefit of a customized ROM -- depends on the ROM. Every chef does things differently. You'll have to read through forums and try various ROMs to decide what you'll like. In general, you'll benefit from speedier and more updated drivers and programs than you'll find in the stock ROMs. Also, many ROMs here are now using Windows Mobile 6.5, which isn't yet released formally to the public. Some chefs really work on the bleeding edge, and may be able to bring you new ultra-new enhancements, but at the risk of instability or incompatiblity. Beyond that, there can be a world of different from one ROM to another in configuration and included packages. Play around for a while.
* The wiki is a great source. It covers what I've said above, and much more. Please keep in mind that it's considered polite to search through the forums and read the wiki before asking questions. No one wants to clutter up the forum more than we need to.
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1. are roms basically firmware upgrades?
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In a way, yes. Picture your device has having multiple ROM regions, Bootloader (BIOS), Radio, Operating System.
You can apply changes (flash) to one, multiple, or all of these regions. Usually, ROM is often referred to as the Operating System & applications portion.
2. how do you benefit from having an upgraded/updated rom?
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It depends; for example, updating the Radio may improve your overall transmission/reception. Updating the Operating System/Application often improves the performance of your device.
Manufacturer (stock ROM's) will usually be relatively stable and more conservative. Custom ROM's will offer newer versions of applications but they may not be as stable - it depends on the skill of the chef preparing the ROM.
3. i was reading for the Blackstone and Diamond roms you need to unlock your phone, how are the blackstone and diamond roms different to the HardSPL roms?
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In most (if not all) cases, you will need to unlock your device. This usually involves applying the HardSPL package specific to your device. In some cases, it may be necessary for you to unlock your SIM.
When you become very experienced, you can go one step further and perform a full security unlock which will permit you to apply Radio stacks from different devices - this is very advanced and you need to ensure that you have done all due diligence before flashing a Radio from a different device.
4. all my contacts/emails/appointments are synced though an exchange server, so i take it i dont need to back up? i dont have anything else installed on it.
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Correct, you simply need to establish a profile in ActiveSync ... the rest should happen automagically. If you get into the addiction of flashing ROMs, it may be necessary for you to delete your existing ActiveSync profile.
5. also i noticed my phone is windows mobile 6.1 are these roms going to conflict with windows mobile 6.5 if i decide to upgrade?
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When you flash a ROM to your device, it will erase/overwrite the existing firmware code.
now i have a sixth question: what are the differences between the KITCHEN and ENERGYROM versions? they look a little different but are there big changes on the backend?
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A ROM is typically the end product that a kitchen produces. Chefs use the kitchen to prepare (cook) a ROM which is then made available here.
HTH,
sweet thanks guys, do they have a ROM bundle that will flash the radio and the OS? i take it the radio is gps/wifi/gsm/bluetooth?
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sweet thanks guys, do they have a ROM bundle that will flash the radio and the OS? i take it the radio is gps/wifi/gsm/bluetooth?
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Most stock shipped ROMs have the radio included but cooked ROMs do not. If you flash a cooked ROM you will still have the radio from your previous ROM unless you flash a new radio. The radio controlls your frequency GSM bands it has nothing to do with bluetooth or wifi.
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Most stock shipped ROMs have the radio included but cooked ROMs do not. If you flash a cooked ROM you will still have the radio from your previous ROM unless you flash a new radio. The radio controlls your frequency GSM bands it has nothing to do with bluetooth or wifi.
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is it suggested upgrading the radio rom? i have cingular if thats any help.. so bluetooth/wifi/gps dont need any upgrades? or at least not suggested?
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is it suggested upgrading the radio rom? i have cingular if thats any help.. so bluetooth/wifi/gps dont need any upgrades? or at least not suggested?
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In my own experience the ROM I have in my signature and the radio I have in my signature works flawlessly for me. The strength and functionality of your Radio will depend on your geographical location. In other words a Radio that works good for someone in New York may not work so well for someone in Georgia.
Here is a link that may prove to be helpful when choosing a radio and all the radios that are in this thread that have been rated can be flashed to your device without having to use security unlock prior to flashing. If you are with AT&T I would suggest that you give the radio and the ROM in my signature a try first. Then if you’re not satisfied with it you can just flash another one.
Hey guys !
I've been around here for many years but have allways been using Windows Mobile phones. I've had a Hero for about a year and i must say that i am very pleased with it. It works so damn good ! I've been flashing roms on windows mobile phones and even created roms my self.
However this Android / Linux world is so new to me that i have no idea what i need to do in order to simply flash a rom on my Hero!
What i get is that i need to root my device. There are some few guides for this in the wiki but i still do not know if my Hero is a Virgin og a Telus. How can i see this?
Also i see a lot of Linux based talk and commands (i presume) that i do not understand anything of. Do we have any desciption of the most common used commands and such stuff so new people like me can get a better understanding of what you guys are actually talking about?
When i learn all this i will edit the wiki with the information. And as i am new it is easier for me to fill in what is missing if you understand
.. And yes i have searched!
Da9L said:
Hey guys !
I've been around here for many years but have allways been using Windows Mobile phones. I've had a Hero for about a year and i must say that i am very pleased with it. It works so damn good ! I've been flashing roms on windows mobile phones and even created roms my self.
However this Android / Linux world is so new to me that i have no idea what i need to do in order to simply flash a rom on my Hero!
What i get is that i need to root my device. There are some few guides for this in the wiki but i still do not know if my Hero is a Virgin og a Telus. How can i see this?
Also i see a lot of Linux based talk and commands (i presume) that i do not understand anything of. Do we have any desciption of the most common used commands and such stuff so new people like me can get a better understanding of what you guys are actually talking about?
When i learn all this i will edit the wiki with the information. And as i am new it is easier for me to fill in what is missing if you understand
.. And yes i have searched!
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Theunlockr.com is an excellent source of information on rooting/flashing your Hero.
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Theunlockr.com is an excellent source of information on rooting/flashing your Hero.
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Seconded.
And when you're unlocked, check out Villain and Vanillain ROM's (check out previous post), definitely two of the best
if you want to know if your phone is rooted download and install "Super user" and run it,you will then know if your phone is rooted or not.
I,like you,was a WM user and found android to be more complicated,but in fact it´s not...once you root your phone and install Amon-RA recovery ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4549551&postcount=1 ) its much easier and simple to do things.
theres a sticky in this sub-forum with wiki-guides,read it!
Branwen said:
Seconded.
And when you're unlocked, check out Villain and Vanillain ROM's (check out previous post), definitely two of the best
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True used a lot those roms.
Waiting patiently for a Vanillain rom based in eris dump.
Right now im still using AychTeeSee's just to be able to use the Buuf Theme
I'm in the exact same situation as Da9L . Could you please let me know if flashing a new ROM will also change the Firmware version?
Currently my firmware is 1.5. I've seen on a friend's G1 the voice search widget and I'm dying to get that on my device. From what I've been told, i need to get a newer firmware, but I've got no idea on how to do this.
Any help would be appreciated ^_^
Some questions:
So the short line of the process of flashing a custom rom is when using unbranded htc hero:
1. Downgrade my software to 1.76, as iam using the newest
2. Root the device acording to _this_ guide
3. Perform a backup
4. Flash the custom rom as i flash a stock rom?
Is that it? It leads me to some more questions
What is this "recovery image" and is there any reason to flash a new one?
And why is there any reason to change this at all ?
How do i get danish xt9 for sms?
And please i have a feeling that i am getting this wrong.. Can you please explain to me the procedure of doing all this ?
Is there any benefit by flashing a rom?
I mean the stock rom actually runs pretty good and is stable. A custom rom is likely to be a little more unstable than a stock rom, but often give you more speed and newer features. This is when we are talking Windows Mobile, but is it the same here? What are the pros and cons by flashing a custom rom over the stock rom?
Da9L said:
Is there any benefit by flashing a rom?
I mean the stock rom actually runs pretty good and is stable. A custom rom is likely to be a little more unstable than a stock rom, but often give you more speed and newer features. This is when we are talking Windows Mobile, but is it the same here? What are the pros and cons by flashing a custom rom over the stock rom?
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It varies depending on the ROM tbh. It's a bit like the high-tech version of 'how long's a piece of string'?
Really, you're likely to get improved performance, root permissions, user interface tweaks, different versions of applications that are better than the default ones, maybe a custom kernel (if it's a 1.5 release you're looking at).
The custom kernels can have better performance due to optimisations in them. Not sure how much of this is like winmo (never had a winmo phone, all I know is that you are able to install alternative ROMs on them), but with android the core OS is open source, so you get more performance boosts under the hood.
Anyone able to add to that?
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It varies depending on the ROM tbh. It's a bit like the high-tech version of 'how long's a piece of string'?
Really, you're likely to get improved performance, root permissions, user interface tweaks, different versions of applications that are better than the default ones, maybe a custom kernel (if it's a 1.5 release you're looking at).
The custom kernels can have better performance due to optimisations in them. Not sure how much of this is like winmo (never had a winmo phone, all I know is that you are able to install alternative ROMs on them), but with android the core OS is open source, so you get more performance boosts under the hood.
Anyone able to add to that?
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That sounds great. However, since this is so new to me i do not know what new tweaks and apps i will be able to use and get if you follow me? When i have flashed a new custom rom, propably android 2.1, i do not know what new things it has and therefore where and how to use these new functions. And does the real advantage in a custom rom also get to a normal user or is the advantages more directed at the developers or?
I want to buy one m8. what is the difference between at&t factory unlocked and international factory unlocked version. can i flash roms in international version thread on at&t factory unlocked model directly??
Yes you can flash any rom you want from the international thread. I am currently running Android Revolution.
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The 3G and LTE band compatibility is different. Do you intend to use on the AT&T network? If so, the "international" (EMEA) version is compatible with AT&T's 3G bands (850 and 1900 MHz); but lacks both of the LTE bands used by AT&T (700 and 1700 MHz) according to this: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_(m8)-6074.php
Not band compatibility is set in hardware, and cannot be changed by flashing different software (ROM, radio, etc.). This means the EMEA version cannot be used on AT&T's LTE network, not matter what you do.
If using on a carrier besides AT&T, I'd check the band compatibility with what your carrier uses. Even if the AT&T version is compatible (with you carrier), I'd probably recommend the international version over it (if compatible as well). The AT&T version is loaded with crappy AT&T bloat and limitations. For instance, WiFi hotspot is blocked, so bootloader needs to be unlocked and the phone rooted in order to make it work on other networks.
Plus, there is the ugly AT&T logo on the back.
Just thought i would bump this thread instead of making a new one. I bought an unlocked at&t htc one m8 off of ebay that i plan to use in another country (i study abroad). I already checked that the frequency bands are compatible, etc. Here's the thing, i don't want my phone to have anything to do with at&t other than the logo in the back. In other words, i want to make it as similar as posible (if not exactly the same) to the international unlocked version. Is this possible with just software changes, etc? (i've read the phones are the same in terms of hardware). I want to remove all at&t bloatware and limitations. can someone please give me quick explanations of what i need to do or point me in the right direction? I'm not new to xda or rooting, but the only smartphone i've ever had is a samsung vibrant (which i've rooted and flashed roms countless times).. this is my first htc phone, so im not very familiar with htcdev or s-off.. but i learn quickly.
I would really appreciate some help
Maelstrom08 said:
Just thought i would bump this thread instead of making a new one. I bought an unlocked at&t htc one m8 off of ebay that i plan to use in another country (i study abroad). I already checked that the frequency bands are compatible, etc. Here's the thing, i don't want my phone to have anything to do with at&t other than the logo in the back. In other words, i want to make it as similar as posible (if not exactly the same) to the international unlocked version. Is this possible with just software changes, etc? (i've read the phones are the same in terms of hardware). I want to remove all at&t bloatware and limitations. can someone please give me quick explanations of what i need to do or point me in the right direction? I'm not new to xda or rooting, but the only smartphone i've ever had is a samsung vibrant (which i've rooted and flashed roms countless times).. this is my first htc phone, so im not very familiar with htcdev or s-off.. but i learn quickly.
I would really appreciate some help
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Then I suggest you start reading...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8?nocache=1
Look in there and
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=htc+one+m8+root
I have the ViperOneM8 rom installed. What is even cool is in the tweeks, you can change the AT&T bootup and logoff screen to a viperone screen. And change the AT&T logo in the pull down menu to any picture you want. s-off isn't really needed unless you plan on changing the kernel.
Maelstrom08 said:
Just thought i would bump this thread instead of making a new one. I bought an unlocked at&t htc one m8 off of ebay that i plan to use in another country (i study abroad). I already checked that the frequency bands are compatible, etc. Here's the thing, i don't want my phone to have anything to do with at&t other than the logo in the back. In other words, i want to make it as similar as posible (if not exactly the same) to the international unlocked version. Is this possible with just software changes, etc? (i've read the phones are the same in terms of hardware). I want to remove all at&t bloatware and limitations. can someone please give me quick explanations of what i need to do or point me in the right direction? I'm not new to xda or rooting, but the only smartphone i've ever had is a samsung vibrant (which i've rooted and flashed roms countless times).. this is my first htc phone, so im not very familiar with htcdev or s-off.. but i learn quickly.
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What you describe is easy to do by just unlocking the bootloader, installing custom recovery, and flashing any international based stock rooted ROM or custom ROM. I basically have done the same, as even though AT&T is my carrier, I absolutely hate their branding, non-standard signal icons, bloatware, and limitations (particularly Wifi Hotspot/tethering).
As the previous user already suggested, learning and reading is the best thing for you to do. Don't proceed until you have a good understanding of the concepts and process. My Index thread (specific to the AT&T versions) is a good place to start up reading: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751432
Great, thanks for the information and guidance guys. i'll definitely spend the next couple days reading before rooting the device, i can't afford to brick it. Any other tips or advices as to how to go about rooting, etc?
Developer build device and ATT device are same exact hardware, ONLY difference is ones sim locked and other isnt, bought 2 developer device from [email protected]'s both run fine on ATT networks...
Maelstrom08 said:
Great, thanks for the information and guidance guys. i'll definitely spend the next couple days reading before rooting the device, i can't afford to brick it. Any other tips or advices as to how to go about rooting, etc?
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no additional advice. I think red point has a wonderful index that should work well for you.
I just wanted to tell you what a wonderfully refreshing attitude you have . Feel free to PM me anytime if you have any specific questions.
Maelstrom08 said:
Any other tips or advices as to how to go about rooting, etc?
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If you look at my Index thread I linked above, the first item under "Unlock Bootloader, ROOT, S-Off" is an excellent step-by-step guide to rooting. There really isn't much I can't add, the guide is so thorough. But I'd still advise to read around and make sure you fully understand all the concepts and steps, and not just blindly follow the guide.
If the goal is to install a custom ROM, you can stop before the step in guide where it says to flash SuperSU (after flashing TWRP), and just put a ROM on the phone and flash in recovery similar to how you have done in the past. The guide is written with the intent of staying on the stock ROM and rooting.
One tip I can give, is that you may notice there are some Toolkits that attempt to automate some of the process (bootloader unlock, custom recovery, root, etc.). I would actually recommend avoiding the use of these. Reason being, the steps aren't actually all that hard to do "manually", plus these toolkits (while well meaning) shortcut the learning process, and rob you of a valuable learning opportunity.
I'm assuming OP doesn't want a custom ROM or root. Just to convert the AT&T branded model to a stock unlocked model, and still get OTA updates. This is possible. You need to unlock the bootloader, get S-OFF, and then follow this guide (you can skip step 1, changing MID): http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/change-wwe-m8-to-dev-edition-ota-t2826567
mindmajick said:
no additional advice. I think red point has a wonderful index that should work well for you.
I just wanted to tell you what a wonderfully refreshing attitude you have . Feel free to PM me anytime if you have any specific questions.
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Thanks a lot man, you seem to have a really nice personality yourself as well. I'll definitely take you up on that offer when I get a chance.
redpoint73 said:
If you look at my Index thread I linked above, the first item under "Unlock Bootloader, ROOT, S-Off" is an excellent step-by-step guide to rooting. There really isn't much I can't add, the guide is so thorough. But I'd still advise to read around and make sure you fully understand all the concepts and steps, and not just blindly follow the guide.
If the goal is to install a custom ROM, you can stop before the step in guide where it says to flash SuperSU (after flashing TWRP), and just put a ROM on the phone and flash in recovery similar to how you have done in the past. The guide is written with the intent of staying on the stock ROM and rooting.
One tip I can give, is that you may notice there are some Toolkits that attempt to automate some of the process (bootloader unlock, custom recovery, root, etc.). I would actually recommend avoiding the use of these. Reason being, the steps aren't actually all that hard to do "manually", plus these toolkits (while well meaning) shortcut the learning process, and rob you of a valuable learning opportunity.
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Yeah, I plan on doing it manually. Thanks for all the good advise man. I'm liking what I see in these forums, I'm glad I landed here.
Sorry it took me this long to reply guys, I have been very busy in the past week. Time to learn me some HTC one m8.
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One last question guys, hopefully somebody can answer me. I've already read a few topics on the terminology used (s-off, ruu, htcdev, etc.), and things don't seem to be too far from what i thought they were. I'm ready to root and flash a custom rom, but here's my question:
I'm a very methodical person, i like to know what I'm doing and that it's the right way to do it. When i flashed a new rom (or rom version) on my samsung vibrant i would do a full wipe (factory reset, clear chache, clear dalvik cache, format system, and format data) before flashing, then i would flash the rom, and then i would flash the rom on top of itself without doing a full wipe. This method worked for me for over 3 years and kept me from getting common bugs some people complained about. Is it fine if i do this with my m8? (i mainly want to know if it can cause problems).. What's your common flash routine?
Thanks for the help guys
I am simple, I do what you do except the double flash.
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Maelstrom08 said:
I'm a very methodical person, i like to know what I'm doing and that it's the right way to do it. When i flashed a new rom (or rom version) on my samsung vibrant i would do a full wipe (factory reset, clear chache, clear dalvik cache, format system, and format data) before flashing, then i would flash the rom, and then i would flash the rom on top of itself without doing a full wipe. This method worked for me for over 3 years and kept me from getting common bugs some people complained about. Is it fine if i do this with my m8? (i mainly want to know if it can cause problems).. What's your common flash routine?
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What you've stated is fine. Although factory reset already wipes data, cache and Dalvik, so its a bit redundant.
I'm the opposite of methodical (at least in the way you describe). I like to get things done with as few steps as possible (while still doing it right). I've similarly been flashing ROMs on Android devices for 4 years (4 HTC devices and 2 Samsung). But I hardly ever wipe system (flashing a ROM does that by default) and never double flash, and I've never had any issues I would attribute to flashing methods.
Some folks will swear by wiping system for every ROM flash, but honestly while there is nothing wrong with it, I don't believe in it and almost never do it (unless sometimes where the ROM specifically says to do so in the instructions).
On the other hand, there is nothing wrong with redundancy, and if you like to be methodical and thorough I would say just keep doing what you have been doing.
Hi there,
i hope that i will get better answer here.
My question is that i have m8 cell htc, but the problem is i dont know how to check what software was intalled in it at beginnig, i installed at&t marshmallow but want to know weather it was of at&t of international and device does not have any icon on the back of the device. thanks
bilalkamal said:
Hi there,
i hope that i will get better answer here.
My question is that i have m8 cell htc, but the problem is i dont know how to check what software was intalled in it at beginnig, i installed at&t marshmallow but want to know weather it was of at&t of international and device does not have any icon on the back of the device. thanks
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Do fastboot getvar all, and post the results (delete IMEI and serial number before posting) and if we look at that info, we can probably determine what version it is.
I'm new to this forum but any kind of help will be appreciated. I got an HTC One M8. I'm African and I found some AT&T apps on the phone. I'm guessing it's some sort of service provider in the West. I found out that my phone is stuck on Android KitKat. It doesn't upgrade or even find options to upgrade the OS. I tried finding some internet help. It might be the AT&T keeping it from finding the update. Is there anyway to still get the update officially as the phone has nice specs but is not compatible for some apps because of the OS.
I'm also open to the suggestion of rooting as that has recently been seeming like the only option I might have left. I'm not worried about warranty as my country is not one for giving warranties on anything. I'm only scared of bricking my phone.
So if you can I'd really appreciate if you can give me a step by step process of rooting my phone, unlocking bootloader, turning S-Off and installing a new OS. Suggestions of good custom ROMS will be accepted too.
Most US carrier branded M8 versions will only OTA update if connected to that US carrier (in this case, AT&T)
You can update using the RUU tool. See my Index thread, and look under the "RUUs": https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751432
Marshmallow is the last official software version, and that RUU number is 6.20.502.5
Thanks
Although, I have solved my problem. Ended up wiping the whole phone, OS, firmware and all. Luckily, I had a recovery tool. Reinstalled Skydragon RUU and some firmware from some other thread. Now it works fine. That's what I'm using to write this note.
Thanks for the reply tho
Good work sorting it out on your own. I know you are new to the forum. In the future, I'd suggest "closing the loop" on posts you've made (especially a new thread you started) by posting that you solved the problem (and how you did it, for the benefit of others).
Also, I know you made the post some time ago. I only responded yesterday, since I don't often check this (AT&T specific) section too often, due to low activity/traffic. There is more activity on the "generic" M8 thread (not carrier specific). So if you have further questions, I'd advise to post their in the future (and mention that you have the AT&T version M8): https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8
Although even that section is getting pretty quiet these days, due to the age of the device!
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Reinstalled Skydragon RUU
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It was either a stock/official (HTC) RUU or the Skydragon ROM. There is not such thing as an RUU for a custom ROM (such as Skydragon.
Hi,
so I am having issues with the Wifi on my, recently acquired, LG V30.
I have got a strange model, L-01K, from Japanese provider DOCOMO.
I have unrooted / flashed .. currently running Havoc 3.11 on Android 10.
The wifi often loses connection/signal and in order to restore requires a complete device reboot.
Looking for some help.
Regards,
H.
haevaristo said:
Hi,
so I am having issues with the Wifi on my, recently acquired, LG V30.
I have got a strange model, L-01K, from Japanese provider DOCOMO.
I have unrooted / flashed .. currently running Havoc 3.11 on Android 10.
The wifi often loses connection/signal and in order to restore requires a complete device reboot.
Looking for some help.
Regards,
H.
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Check your network stability? Don't use Havoc?
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Check your network stability? Don't use Havoc?
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Is this a joke ?
Not really a joke... did the phone work fine on a stock ROM? You never told us what you came from.
How did you get to Havoc 10? As far as I've seen, Pie ROMs often have issues after install... I can't imagine 10-roms to be any better. Did you try any of the fixes mentioned in the ROM threads instead of just asking here? Sounds like it's probably ROM specific...
Well, is it my first custom, so I have no past experience and I don't know if this is specific to the ROM or the firmware drivers, or etc... hence I am asking around here for some support.
I assumed it was clear where I cam from, I came from stock. I only had the phone stock for a short period so I do not know if it was better or not before flashing. The phone was trully horrible with all the Japanese software crap on it.
I think I saw somewhere that this phone is known to have crappy drivers from LG.
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Well, is it my first custom, so I have no past experience and I don't know if this is specific to the ROM or the firmware drivers, or etc... hence I am asking around here for some support.
I assumed it was clear where I cam from, I came from stock. I only had the phone stock for a short period so I do not know if it was better or not before flashing. The phone was trully horrible with all the Japanese software crap on it.
I think I saw somewhere that this phone is known to have crappy drivers from LG.
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You also don't have a model number I've ever seen before, nor is it mentioned in the WTF thread. We have no clue what you installed here or how you did it, so I would suggest flashing one of the stock ROMs through TWRP if that's your bag. The Havoc ROM used in this forum is v3.9, again don't know how you got 3.11
Perhaps its not 3.11 ... I got it from the V30 Telegram group ... the zip file is "Havoc-OS-v3.11-20201128-joan-Unofficial.zip", I cannot seem to find the running software version, so I dont know how to check ... I am also trying to get some help there but I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask here as well.
are you rooted and or unlocked bootloader?
Also I've never heard of there being an issue with WIFI on this device.
Yes. TWRP installed as well
You say you came from stock, but WHAT stock? Oreo? Pie? US998? Something else? All this matters. You can't just slap a ROM on without having the rest of the stuff prepared on this phone.
As others mentioned, the model number doesn't make sense to us, so it could be some weird stock ROM that is not compatible with Havoc (or other custom ROMs). Even for many of these, you need to start with a known stock ROM, so that the proper blobs (binaries) are present as well as the partition layout in the phone. As you don't seem to know what it was (eg US998 is preferred) then I'd recommend you start there and then move forward. This means Frankensteining to US998, then moving forward.
Of course, given your weird model number, this may not be advised either... but if you want to try that's where I'd start.
OK.
So, phone came with stock Docomo android 8. Dont know too many details as I didnt kept it long.
Then I had some discussions on telegram group, where people advised me to unroot the phone, and install TWRP. It was mostly same as described in the thread for the LGv30 here in the forums.
I had to install a pre 2018 ROM version, using samsungs tools.
I don't recall anymore all the details order i did things from this on, I followed the steps as advised ... but I had to flash a V300 to H930 ROM. I also remember that an important step in the flashing process was not to flash modem, xbl and xbl2. So I did skip those.
Then initially I rooted Revolution Remix android 9.0, from stock android 10.0 ... by mistake, then I reverted back and I installed Havox android 10.0 instead.
The stock filename was "H93020d_00_OPEN_EU_OP_0326.kdz" and "V300_to_H93031a_converter.zip".
Edit: perhaps it wasnt Android 8 but rather 9 as someone corrected, this phone did not shipped with android 8. As mentioned, I did not keep the phone stock for long as it was literally unsuable with all the Japanese software, so I have not paid too much attention.
haevaristo said:
OK.
So, phone came with stock Docomo android 8. Dont know too many details as I didnt kept it long.
Then I had some discussions on telegram group, where people advised me to unroot the phone, and install TWRP. It was mostly same as described in the thread for the LGv30 here in the forums.
I had to install a pre 2018 ROM version, using samsungs tools.
I don't recall anymore all the details order i did things from this on, I followed the steps as advised ... but I had to flash a V300 to H930 ROM. I also remember that an important step in the flashing process was not to flash modem, xbl and xbl2. So I did skip those.
Then initially I rooted Revolution Remix android 9.0, from stock android 10.0 ... by mistake, then I reverted back and I installed Havox android 10.0 instead.
The stock filename was "H93020d_00_OPEN_EU_OP_0326.kdz" and "V300_to_H93031a_converter.zip".
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You're ostensibly trying to combine 2 tutorials and forums to fix your problem. My guess is that flashing all those random ROMs, unrooting to install TWRP (?!?!), and using a Samsung tool definitely were not the right move. I'd advise against doing anything else unless @ChazzMatt gives his blessing, but he's away for a bit. Either that or ask for your Telegram friends to fix what they broke.
Also, wtf is docomo? The V30 did not come stock with Android 8.
ldeveraux said:
You're ostensibly trying to combine 2 tutorials and forums to fix your problem. My guess is that flashing all those random ROMs, unrooting to install TWRP (?!?!), and using a Samsung tool definitely were not the right move. I'd advise against doing anything else unless @ChazzMatt gives his blessing, but he's away for a bit. Either that or ask for your Telegram friends to fix what they broke.
Also, wtf is docomo? The V30 did not come stock with Android 8.
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If you had read my earlier posts, I explain who is docomo and why I have such a weird model.
They are not my 'Telegram friends' but a community of people who use the LG V30. From what I gather it seems several of them are very active in ROMs, fixes and also part of the XDA forums here. They continue trying to help me however I though it would not hurt to also ask here in parallel ... it is also far easier for someone who later may face the same issues, to benefit from the solution if they can find this thread. Perhaps it was a mistake, this reminds me why I dont really miss much using forums ...
Using the LG tool was definitely the right move as written everywhere in the forums here and advised by anyone you ask to directly. As a first step, you need to break the encryption/security on the phone and you can only do that by reverting to an older version, preJuly 2018, where a known exploit exists. And guess what, until you root the phone, you can only do that by using a tool developed by LG.
And yes, I am definitely trying to combine several tutorials as there simply is no single tutorial or source of information.There are also no instructions, or even knowledge, for my model on the forums, and since the information is vague, outdated or incomplete on the different threads, you simply have no choice other than combining it. I followed the instructions as advised by my 'Telegram friends' considering it was clear I had to Frankenstein to something anyhow and the information they gave me, It all made sense, when compared to the forums information and according to the rationalle that they gave. So I took the risk. It worked without me bricking my phone, so I consider that a success.
It was definitely not 'random ROMs', if you go into the XDA section on LGv30 it is clearly explained why you need each of those and how. Its only the specifics, and versions, for my case that is not clear.
Seriously dude, you obviously have not enough knowledge nor interest in helping, .. so why don't you do me a favor, ignore this thread and go spend your time somewhere else and let others who can actually help reply... thanks, seriously!
Oh OK, no problem. Hope you and the other user who bothered replying twice can fix your cockup. With the 0 Likes and 2 weeks on XDA, I'm sure you'll solve it immediately.
... another really helpfull post, you really never disappoint ...
You really need to be far more clear in what you are doing or did. Don't blame the other users for your mistakes, nor should you complain to them when they're trying to help you with limited info. If you want help, you need to give a LOT more info. And you did, indeed, flash multiple different custom ROMs, which is a recipe for trouble.
Your terminology is also confusing, as you keep saying "unroot" and then install TWRP. You need to unlock the bootloader to install TWRP, maybe that's what you mean. Unrooting is a very different operation. You need to be precise in what you are asking for help with, otherwise you'll get bad info from anyone. Know the terms and use them properly, otherwise we can't help you... bad info will always lead to trouble.
Bottom line, as far as I know, there's only one way to do this right on the V30, which we can only assume you have. If you want to proceed, then you need to focus on one process and not try to mix with every other person's idea of what's right. Chazz has been great on this, and has provided detailed info... follow that.
Again, I won't tell you to do this because I don't want you to blame me if you brick the phone. So, if you want to proceed, you do so at your own risk. That said, I would start by getting to US998 stock ROM via KDZ. Follow the Frankenstein thread hereon XDA to see how to get there first. Once there, check to see that the phone operates properly - it should. If it doesn't then stop jumping around and fix that first.
Once all is good on that stock ROM, follow the WTF thread to install TWRP again (KDZ will remove it), with the version mentioned there (there may be newer versions, but you need to stick to what's detailed there to prevent problems, as those are the ones that are tested and known to work). Once you get that done, again, make sure the phone is working properly... then you can consider going to a custom ROM.
If you decide to move ahead, then you need to read the requirements of the custom ROM carefully. Most PIE ROMs, for example, require the PIE blobs, so you need to get to a stock PIE ROM as prescribed before going to a custom ROM. I don't know what the specifics are for 10-ROMs, so you'll have to see what's possible and how it's done based on that ROM's thread.
Well, I am not blaming anyone for my mistakes nor am I complaining to anyone trying to help me, you've been really helpful so far, not only giving ideas on what could be done but as well trying to teach and correct me, and I haven't complained about it.
However, the other guy is literally just patronizing.
Even for me who is new to this, I can clearly see by his comments that he doesn't know what he is talking about, this device in particular, and he even didn't bother to read Chad's thread to try and understand the typical, normal, process.
Just feel free to read again everything that I posted and everything that he posted, 'helping' me, its all registered above.
As for your points you are right, I am trying my best to understand all the details, but as you can notice I have literally just registered here in the forums and this is in fact my first attempt at customizing an android phone ROM.
I have initially, wrongly assumed, that the information I provided was enough and I expected this to be a more common issue that someone with experience could quickly point me to the problem or what I did wrong. And yes, my terminology is wrong, nothing I can do about that at the moment. The posts and information are literally full of jargon, abreviations, code names and sometimes spread over multiple replies or even different threads, this is not for the faint of heart and anyone new will always struggle to understand it all, no matter how smart they are, ... I am literally doing my best to try and catch up as quickly as possible.
So, wherever you read 'unroot' earlier, just replace with "unlock bootloader". As far as I understood it, and as I recall all the things that I have done, I have literally followed the process outlined in Chad's post here in XDA ... I have however frankensteined using the V300 to H930 patch, also according to instructions outlined here (I'm not sure at this moment, if that is also a post by Chad) as per the advice I received in the Telegram group. BTW, I have looked into the telegram group and Chad is also part of it, though he has not been active in the past days, so its not just a random group of people as pointed out earlier.
Anyway .. as far as I was explained, this device requires you to first flash A9 before going straight to A10, otherwise there are some 'blobs' issues with it, i dont really understand the details. During the process of discussion in the chat group, there was some miss understanding and I ended up going straight to A10 and then I installed LineageOS. Later when we noticed this, I tried to correct this by then going back again to A9 and then A10 and then finally I installed Havoc instead of going back to LOS.
So there was some mix up there, and I mentioned this not to blame anyone but just because I thought this could potentially be a source of the problems I am facing and a hint at the potential solution.
Thank you for your suggestion, I am literally half way in the process of sort of doing what you suggest. I am now back to stock A9 and see if the WiFi behaves better. I did flashed stock via TWRP, not KDZ. So I did not went all the back as you suggest. If this proves unsuccessful I might do that.
Not that he/she/they needs my defense, but ldeveraux is a senior member (more-so than me) and has tons of knowledge on this device, in my experience. That's all I want to say about that.
So it sounds like the problem was jumping to A10 from A9. Also, using instructions from one ROM to end up jumping to another. Each ROM has its needs/requirements, so you can't really do that. Also, at least on this phone, going between Android levels is somewhat tricky, so you can't just jump around from what I've read.
Yes, there can be some jargon and such. Chazz's thread (post 193) explains most, if not all, of that, but if you're missing something I strongly recommend reading MUCH more, rather than just moving forward. It is a very long thread, but it's very important you read through ALL of it, and understand it before moving forward. Then read it again. Don't read it on a phone/device - use a computer because browsers and apps have a bad habit of truncating the message. These are Chazz's recommendations as well, for good reason (and also at the top of this thread). I did a TON of reading before I did my phone unlocking/rooting, and with that thread alone, so I have read it MANY times myself (well, at least the older revision when I did my hacking) and I didn't have to ask questions... so I know the answers can be found.
US998 is the best "foundation" to start with for various reasons. Fact is, US998 should work on pretty much any carrier to start with, so it's a great foundation for that reason too. That's why I suggest starting there to be sure you have a good, working basis.
I have read that if you go to A9 or A10, going to another version may require going all the way back to Nougat first. You may need to do that now, if you want to get back to a stable US998 to begin with. The Pie/10 threads probably have info on this... I haven't read them up myself as I don't want to bother. I have stuck with Oreo because it does everything you need anyway... I see no advantage to Pie or 10. I believe Chazz has also stayed on Oreo for this reason.
Senior or no senior, he should just not patronize people. He has clearly the option to ignore if he doesn't feel like helping .. I have even politely asked him to do so ... but instead he decided to come back and patronize further ...
I rest my case...
OK. So, I am still in the process of finalizing everything, but I think it is safe to say that for the L-01K models, the US998 is the safe way to go.
Make a backup of your modem partition, then do the Frankenstein to US998 then once you are done, you can restore you original modem partition and everything should work fine!!