Navipanel - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Have copied Navipanel shortcut to start menu but when activated will only connect to Co pilot. Is there any tweak to coonect this to Tomtom navigator which I have installed.

It would be great if this is possible. Thanks in advance

mmine connects to telenav.. asked the same thing with no answer... i don't believe there is a way... just a scheme to make you use the gps app that came with the phone....... unless someone can prove me otherwise

Using Telenav and have absolutely no problem with it. What makes it better is that I have not paid a penny for it yet. Can't beat free, plus it works just fine.

lhernana2j said:
Using Telenav and have absolutely no problem with it. What makes it better is that I have not paid a penny for it yet. Can't beat free, plus it works just fine.
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Hi,
where did you get the Telenav free from? I can do with a satnav.
Thanks

I just use the one that is pre-installed on the phone. Bear in mind that its probably because I reset my phone a lot . I install stuff and if it creates a hitch or a bug on my phone I reset it.

I can't remember exactly, but there's a registry and icon tweak that you have to do for it to work for any other GPS program, but it wont work the same way as when you click on Address or Home and have TomTom installed. Usually, since it comes with either CoPilot or TeleNav it is coded so it performs that action when you click it on Navipanel (Example: Click Home on Navipanel and it'll open CoPilot and automatically enter your Home address and all you have to do is press "Go"). The registry and cfg file hacks can help, but you're gonna have to search for those because I can't recall from memory.
As for the "free" Telenav, it's only a trial period. Meaning after 30 days it's gone. Unless you hard reset and enter new username or whatever information it asks for you won't be able to continue using it free. No such thing as "free" with Telenav since you have to connect to their servers to use their program (which is complete bull**** in my opinion).

if i can help ??
Try this
http://alb-net.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!A1A144F30CB6452D!156.entry

Thanks for that it worked a treat with TomTom Navigator

You can get Telenav for free if you have Sprint, otherwise you can get a 30 day free trial from the website, telenav.com
Paying for it is worth it though, it's a nice app.

^ perhaps if it was a once time payment.. THEN i can probably justify that purchase... BUT it's a monthly subscription to something that i can get for free... totally ridiculous.. i hate how i can't use navipanel just because they have it locked to avoid using another gps software on it.. crap

prea50 said:
if i can help ??
Try this
http://alb-net.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!A1A144F30CB6452D!156.entry
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It appears to want the trial CoPilot folder installed. If you have flashed, and therefore lost CoPilot, can it be rebuilt with an empty folder structure? If so, what should it have ?

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Tom Tom navigation and adding maps

I have several maps for Tom Tom,which i received from a friend.The problem that i am having is that whenever i connect via usb and try to use the Tom Tom Home to load the maps(Even putting them in the correct folder on the pc)It still will not show them up.Any ideas on what im doing wrong?And this version that comes with the device is (compared to the other software that is out now)kind of old in the tom tom family.Anyone with any ideas or help would be good.
Last question is that when it trys to update,via the cable connected to the pc,no matter if i try to update the phone data base to the micro drive or internal memory it tells me that the drive is read only.If i put in my memory card it will say that it cannot access the file.
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Are the maps for version 6 of TomTom? versions lower than 6 will not work. If they are version 6, did your friend activate any of the maps from the package he purchased? If yes, they probably will not activate on your pda unless you call TomTom and have them switch the activation from your old pda( your friends) to your new pda...But that would not cause the problem of transfering them to your device. Did you upgrade your version of TomTom home? they have had several upgrades to the home app. Man, I hate that Home app. It was much easier just copying the maps to your sdcard or microdrive.
I have tom tom home on the pc .but they said you should have it on the phone as well,but its not there,ony tom tom.and i dont know what version the maps are
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I have several maps for Tom Tom,which i received from a friend.The problem that i am having is that whenever i connect via usb and try to use the Tom Tom Home to load the maps(Even putting them in the correct folder on the pc)It still will not show them up.Any ideas on what im doing wrong?And this version that comes with the device is (compared to the other software that is out now)kind of old in the tom tom family.Anyone with any ideas or help would be good.
Last question is that when it trys to update,via the cable connected to the pc,no matter if i try to update the phone data base to the micro drive or internal memory it tells me that the drive is read only.If i put in my memory card it will say that it cannot access the file.
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Tom-Tom on the Ameo with all the maps of western europe loaded runs like a dog.
Pop along to your nearest torrent site and find iGO, load up and give it a try - it's much better than Tom-Tom (only IMHO), the maps load and scroll quicker and it is just more visually pleasing.
Make sure you have Bluetooth Explorer UNTICKED. Reset your device and it should find the maps.
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Make sure you have Bluetooth Explorer UNTICKED. Reset your device and it should find the maps.
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You lost me with that.Bluetooth explorer?Now granted i have only had my device a week and have not taken the time ,because of work ,to sit down and actually explore the full functionality of this device.
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apphoen said:
Tom-Tom on the Ameo with all the maps of western europe loaded runs like a dog.
Pop along to your nearest torrent site and find iGO, load up and give it a try - it's much better than Tom-Tom (only IMHO), the maps load and scroll quicker and it is just more visually pleasing.
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I have this program with some maps.I purchased it a while back when i was using my jasjar,because it was alot easier on my resources.
apphoen said:
Tom-Tom on the Ameo with all the maps of western europe loaded runs like a dog.
Pop along to your nearest torrent site and find iGO, load up and give it a try - it's much better than Tom-Tom (only IMHO), the maps load and scroll quicker and it is just more visually pleasing.
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Wow, I looked at the iGo website http://www.i-go.com/en/index.php and it looks very nice. Too bad they don't have it for the US yet...unless I missed something.
www.oncoursenavigator.com
apphoen said:
Tom-Tom on the Ameo with all the maps of western europe loaded runs like a dog.
Pop along to your nearest torrent site and find iGO, load up and give it a try - it's much better than Tom-Tom (only IMHO), the maps load and scroll quicker and it is just more visually pleasing.
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Mentioned this in another thread. Thanks a bunch apphoen!! That iGo GPS software is brill. Bye Bye TomTom.
ltxda said:
Wow, I looked at the iGo website http://www.i-go.com/en/index.php and it looks very nice. Too bad they don't have it for the US yet...unless I missed something.
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I should have checked first before posting - yeah, unfortunately they only do Europe at the moment. They are expanding though, and because they use Tele-Atlas maps it shouldn't be too long before they do USA & Canada.
Another good thing about iGo is that you don't have to have a PC installer. You just copy to SD/MD and run.
mackaby007 said:
Mentioned this in another thread. Thanks a bunch apphoen!! That iGo GPS software is brill. Bye Bye TomTom.
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No problem, I used TomTom Mobile in all it's different guises over the years and then a friend suggested iGo. I took TomTom off after only 1 trip with iGo. The only problem I've found so far is that it can't find Pizza Hut in Monchengladbach!
I should have checked first before posting - yeah, unfortunately they only do Europe at the moment. -->>Incorrect m8.After doing some research i have IGO My Way 2006 Plus version with US Maps as well as US voices.A bit tedious to set up and put the US voices in the correct place but its ALOT easier to use ,than tom tom which has restrictions out the whatoozie...good suggestion m8!
Cut tomtom maps?
Is it possible to cut tomtom navigator 6 maps? I have the USA and Canada maps which take 1GB. I don't want to store all of this on my 2GB miniSD card (I need space for music and stuff), especially since I only need maps of California. I know, one solution is to carry another card, but I don't want to do that. I have tried that and it's really annoying having to switch cards all the time.
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I should have checked first before posting - yeah, unfortunately they only do Europe at the moment. -->>Incorrect m8.After doing some research i have IGO My Way 2006 Plus version with US Maps as well as US voices.A bit tedious to set up and put the US voices in the correct place but its ALOT easier to use ,than tom tom which has restrictions out the whatoozie...good suggestion m8!
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That's good news - did you get them straight from the i-Go website?
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Is it possible to cut tomtom navigator 6 maps? I have the USA and Canada maps which take 1GB. I don't want to store all of this on my 2GB miniSD card (I need space for music and stuff), especially since I only need maps of California. I know, one solution is to carry another card, but I don't want to do that. I have tried that and it's really annoying having to switch cards all the time.
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Why don't you just run them from the MD?
bummed it
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That's good news - did you get them straight from the i-Go website?
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I actually pulled a bum of a move and got it from one of my friends that has the installation CD and all the maps(The package deal)It works lovely.Not as bulky to install like TOM TOM and it doesnt take up that much space.So far so good with it!
sevakm said:
Is it possible to cut tomtom navigator 6 maps? I have the USA and Canada maps which take 1GB. I don't want to store all of this on my 2GB miniSD card (I need space for music and stuff), especially since I only need maps of California. I know, one solution is to carry another card, but I don't want to do that. I have tried that and it's really annoying having to switch cards all the time.
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You might want to try iGuidance, which allows you to load start (even part of state) maps for US and Canada. http://www.inavcorp.com/
I find this an effective solution.
southernint3l said:
I actually pulled a bum of a move and got it from one of my friends that has the installation CD and all the maps(The package deal)It works lovely.Not as bulky to install like TOM TOM and it doesnt take up that much space.So far so good with it!
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Good deal. I'll definately not go back to TomTom - Hopefully will be getting the Jan 2007 upgrade shortly which should address some of the errant POIs.
One thing I haven't managed to find is a speed camera database for Germany for it.
If anyone knows where I can find one then please let us all know.

TomTom gps launcher

EDIT: Updated new version:
This is a universal gps proxy launcher, hardset to launch tomtom to begin with, but configurable to launch anything you like and know the path to. When you first run it a new file will be created at \gpslaunch.ini. This file has 1 line, the path to a app you want to launch. By default it will be the main memory location tomtom is installed to. Feel free to change it as you like for other apps.
What it does:
Open the GPS port properly, and then launch the app, 30 seconds later it exits leaving just your new app running and using the gps.
Enjoy!
wat is the difference between this one and his earlier one
works...thank you
is there a difference between this and the gpstest app recommended on pdaphonehome?
This app launches only tomtom, it's not settable, but it's also not a .NET app. I wrote this because I hate .net and refused to run a .net launcher as it takes more memory and cpu then it should. This simple opens the port, waits 2.5 seconds, launches tomtom, waits 30 seconds, and exits unless you told it not to.
I could revise it a bit if there is demand but it works in present form.
Thank you shadowmite, how about add some icon to your application?
work gr8, thx!
What exactly does this do?
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What exactly does this do?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1863863&postcount=5
working perfectly. cant live without it for tomtom. thank you
Simple and sweet!
Ozzy Osbourne swearing is great with TomTom
What happens if one has moved the Tom Tom files to storage card, will this app know or give you the option of changing the launch folders?
Never mind, i see there is no config file. thanks.
Blah.. meant to post that in another thread.. but now that its here. The program does work in the sense that its starting tomtom, just tells me no gps attached.
Just having the hardest time here. I do have the com4, no hardware port, 4800, and auto config set correctly. As is the location settings in the phone. The other day i was able to get a connection using Google. Just doesn't seem to want to work, its either seeking or stuck at initializing. When it was working the other day though, google was spot on while driving.
Where is everyone getting TomTom? Anyone?
When it starts TomTom for about the first 30 seconds to 2 minutes sometimes it won't show a gps, but if you wait it will come up and show it. Until there is a gps fix the "no gps device" message won't go away. You can't trust that. All this trouble is because TomTom didn't code their port open properly to begin with. I hope they catch on here that they should fix their codebase.
I'll release a update tonight to have a config file for users wanting another program to launch instead. And I'll do away with the button to where it just auto runs.
New version put up in the first post, now configurable:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1862619&postcount=1
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New version put up in the first post, now configurable:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1862619&postcount=1
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Thank you.
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This app launches only tomtom, it's not settable, but it's also not a .NET app. I wrote this because I hate .net and refused to run a .net launcher as it takes more memory and cpu then it should. This simple opens the port, waits 2.5 seconds, launches tomtom, waits 30 seconds, and exits unless you told it not to.
I could revise it a bit if there is demand but it works in present form.
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Off topic, but I'm willing to bet the difference in overhead between my launcher and yours is negligible especially considering the fact that the launchers only run for under a minute unless configured otherwise.
It is slightly offtopic, but worth mentioning... Actually the .net framework entirely loads to run your app, it's pretty big. Regardless of length of time running, .net sucks. It's like saying to use a 21' moving truck to move a washing machine home from the store. No offense to your app, it's a nice one, I talked to you on the chat (zule) and tried to get you moving in native code. If you remember I am however the one who suggested a "launcher" while you were thinking daemon.
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It is slightly offtopic, but worth mentioning... Actually the .net framework entirely loads to run your app, it's pretty big. Regardless of length of time running, .net sucks. It's like saying to use a 21' moving truck to move a washing machine home from the store. No offense to your app, it's a nice one, I talked to you on the chat (zule) and tried to get you moving in native code. If you remember I am however the one who suggested a "launcher" while you were thinking daemon.
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Yeah, I understand the .net issue. I only used .net to rapidly develop a test of theory. I never intended to release the .net app, it was more of a proof of theory for me, but I decided to release it to help people out with their GPS troubles until the BG daemon (which involves considerably more code, as you know) is anywhere remotely close to being ready.

gps navigation

anyone know any software that does gps navigation for free? or at least one that has a 30 day trial, or some kind of trial.
I've had good luck with www.nav4all.com but it needs a GPS keep-alive like BAF's GPS Toggle or the Holus GPS Viewer. Of course YMMV.
There are alot of places out there to find software. I personally use Garmin Mobile XT. It took me a LONG time to piece this together, but now that I have all the parts, I was able to make this sing flawlessly on my mogul. It can graph in 3d, or 2d, and it's extremely accurate considering this is a cell phone. It also has the garmin online feature which gives you weather, traffic, and gas prices (to name a few) in the area the gps is centered on.
Awesome program.
I've also played with Tracky, and purchased this one. I like it, but it's made more for people looking to do Geocaching.
Live search and google maps are good if your looking for free. However, if your in a pinch, and do not have internet, they suck cause there are no maps without internet.
Garmin loads it all onto the memory card. The software I use allows me to create maps and upload them to the unit.
Hope this helps you out a bit.
Chem
Osteo said:
I've had good luck with www.nav4all.com but it needs a GPS keep-alive like BAF's GPS Toggle or the Holus GPS Viewer. Of course YMMV.
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nav4all looks like its good, but would gpstoday work for the keep alive? assuming i run it in persistent mode?
gbenj said:
nav4all looks like its good, but would gpstoday work for the keep alive? assuming i run it in persistent mode?
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Yeah, I tried GPSToday and it worked but as I don't have an unlimited data plan, I didn't want something d/l data.
If you goof N4A will dial in but only passes a few bytes of info to update your course. I logged in maybe 6 times for route updates over a week and it only used 200k of data (I called VZ to confirm amount of data used).
Many folks like the bells and whistles of the Garmin and TomTom type products; Nav4all dosen't show a map while driving (per their FAQ,this is for saftey reasons, so it talks the directions to you).
It doesn't announce street names but does tell you what lane to be in to get to your goal ("Just ahead, stay on the left, two hiways" means you need to be in the two left lanes to get where you're going). The demo on their website will show you what to expect.
The screen gives a very basic arrow indicator but Nav4all got me all over San Diego and Anaheim CA with no hitches. Also works well here in rural Tennessee.
Good luck!
Osteo said:
Yeah, I tried GPSToday and it worked but as I don't have an unlimited data plan, I didn't want something d/l data.
If you goof N4A will dial in but only passes a few bytes of info to update your course. I logged in maybe 6 times for route updates over a week and it only used 200k of data (I called VZ to confirm amount of data used).
Many folks like the bells and whistles of the Garmin and TomTom type products; Nav4all dosen't show a map while driving (per their FAQ,this is for saftey reasons, so it talks the directions to you).
It doesn't announce street names but does tell you what lane to be in to get to your goal ("Just ahead, stay on the left, two hiways" means you need to be in the two left lanes to get where you're going). The demo on their website will show you what to expect.
The screen gives a very basic arrow indicator but Nav4all got me all over San Diego and Anaheim CA with no hitches. Also works well here in rural Tennessee.
Good luck!
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My today screen toggler (over on ppcgeeks) does the same thing as GPS today, except without the extra fluff.
Chemdawg said:
There are alot of places out there to find software. I personally use Garmin Mobile XT.
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Though to use the Garmin maps and to use TomTom ain't legally "free", eh? Just had to nitpick.
Osteo said:
I've had good luck with www.nav4all.com but it needs a GPS keep-alive like BAF's GPS Toggle or the Holus GPS Viewer. Of course YMMV.
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Hey Baffles, isn't this one yours? I love it and use it almost exclusively. The only time I use the Holux product (spelled wrong in the above post) is if I want to see the status of the satellites. Thanks for the hard work, man!
edit: here's a link for those who don't use google... http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=21248
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Yeah, I tried GPSToday and it worked but as I don't have an unlimited data plan, I didn't want something d/l data.
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Osteo, for precisely your type of needs GPSToday already has an option to prevent it from downloading any data. In the Map Window->OptionsMenu->Settings dialog, enable the option "Disable Data At All Times", and Uncheck the option "Initiate Connection if Needed". Also, for added benefit, click on "More" on the first Settings screen, and Uncheck "Show Address on Today screen". This will change the today screen display to show your most recent latitude/longitude/altitude and time of last fix etc, none of which require data access. Please install version 0.9.5 to get this and other "offline use" benefits.
Thanks
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Osteo, for precisely your type of needs GPSToday already has an option to prevent it from downloading any data. In the Map Window->OptionsMenu->Settings dialog, enable the option "Disable Data At All Times", and Uncheck the option "Initiate Connection if Needed". Also, for added benefit, click on "More" on the first Settings screen, and Uncheck "Show Address on Today screen". This will change the today screen display to show your most recent latitude/longitude/altitude and time of last fix etc, none of which require data access. Please install version 0.9.5 to get this and other "offline use" benefits.
Thanks
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Cool! Loved the toggling of your product but the data issue kept me from using. As I'm a chronic tinker-er I'll give it another go. I guess I stumbled on one of the initial builds early on and gave up on it. Thanks for the info!

My 6800 is perfect! (so now what?!?)

got it at launch, afraid of roms but plunged in last week (finally).
Now it's got:
GPS radio (thanks DCD),
mapping (via GPSgate and iguidance)
total commander
HHC (plus all appearances)
pocket esword (and NASB)
calc-lite
skyfire
keep recordin'
and about 2 gigs of music
so now what?!?
What else do you guys do with these things?
(I don't run a web server, or need to do anything of that nature)
I am looking for other awesome things this thing can do, gaming? poker? video? audio? (anyone ever figure out a remote control?) anything... guess I'm just bored with it now that it's perfect...nuthin more to tweak
Let me know if you figure out how to make an ATM spit out tons of $$$ using the infrared
now you wait until DCD comes out with a new ROM so you can reflash and start all over again! its great fun i might add.
i'm sure with every reflash new problem will arise and you will spend countless hours on the forums trying to figure them out.
plus always be on the look out for new cool apps, they seem to pop up time to time
dcd's roms
while they are awesome, once I have it done, why go for another? to get an additional 2% ram available, to make it 8% faster after a soft reset? I mean there seems to be no reason to move to another rom at this point (unless it included a gameboy emulator and 300 games or something). I guess there's nowhere to go from here, time to get a new gadget!
There is a remote control app that is suppose to be pretty good. Also there are some internet radio apps and I think Sprint has a online TV app but not sure if it works on other carriers or not. Go to Handango.com and you will find all kinds of apps.
I'm looking for free programs, i'm sure I can buy everything from calorie counters to budget analysers, I am looking for what people install that's free.
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I'm looking for free programs, i'm sure I can buy everything from calorie counters to budget analysers, I am looking for what people install that's free.
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www.freewarepocketpc.net
and other just google.
Pong and a D&D Dice Roller
eBook reader, how did I forget!, good idea, will look through the freeware site, thanks!
music identifier - look at "musicid dxm"
samuel1613 said:
I'm looking for free programs, i'm sure I can buy everything from calorie counters to budget analysers, I am looking for what people install that's free.
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The best things in life are not free. You are doing about 2-8% of what the phone can do using freeware.
u can try smartphonejunkie.com
serfboreds said:
The best things in life are not free. You are doing about 2-8% of what the phone can do using freeware.
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you're right, the best things in life aren't free, then they're cracked...
but please provide what single thing you use that you find most useful, barring what has already been mentioned, maybe i'll pay for it...
oh and I still cannot find an exe or cab for solitaire (googleing didn't help)
Geocaching, that is basically free and fun for all ages.
www.geocaching.com
thanks again, I keep wanting to try that, after reading up on it, i laughed at CSI's attempt to include geocaching in a plot...
samuel1613 said:
thanks again, I keep wanting to try that, after reading up on it, i laughed at CSI's attempt to include geocaching in a plot...
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It is a blast and my kids love it, especially trading the trinkets and tracking the travel bugs, plus it gets them outside and hiking around.
geocaching
I have iguidance and gps capabilities, but what's the best way to enter in some coordinates and track them down? how do you do it?
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I have iguidance and gps capabilities, but what's the best way to enter in some coordinates and track them down? how do you do it?
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there are lots of applications one that seems to have most of all the info and will import a GPX file is BeeLineGPS. Free for 30 days. This way you can export out geocaches on the site and import them to this app and then mark them found and I believe export your find list to check them off on the geocaching site. The have a link on geocaching about good apps to use as well.
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there are lots of applications one that seems to have most of all the info and will import a GPX file is BeeLineGPS. Free for 30 days. This way you can export out geocaches on the site and import them to this app and then mark them found and I believe export your find list to check them off on the geocaching site. The have a link on geocaching about good apps to use as well.
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Woodpecker Software GeoScout
the maps are a little mis-aligned on it, but other than that, it's really nice software that syncs up with geocaching.com

Android Capabilities?

Hi Fellow XDA'ers!
I have a touch dual (with WM6.5).
I like the look of the Hero but have a few reservations.
Firstly, I read posts that it struggles to sync with Outlook!!?? - can this be sorted? - ActivSync (by BTooth) is very handy and does the job well.
Secondly, I like having the apps such as IGO8 or TOMTOM to hand on my phone, should I need it.
Can I install these apps (or similar) on the Hero?....In other words - can WM apps work on Android?
thanks
andy_dutch said:
Firstly, I read posts that it struggles to sync with Outlook!!?? - can this be sorted? - ActivSync (by BTooth) is very handy and does the job well.
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I think syncing with Outlook over Bluetooth is out of the question. It can sync Contacts and Calendar (only those two) over the USB cable with the use of the 'HTC Sync' software. That software is not available _yet_ on the HTC site, but apparently it IS included on the memorycard included with the Orange bundle that is now shipping.
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Secondly, I like having the apps such as IGO8 or TOMTOM to hand on my phone, should I need it.
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Those two applications are not (yet?) available for Android. There are a few other navigation solutions available, but I'm under the impression they are not the level of iGO or TomTom. Also, I have no idea on which countries they support or what price they are available at.
andy_dutch said:
Can I install these apps (or similar) on the Hero?....In other words - can WM apps work on Android?
thanks
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No. There are a whole bunch of Android apps, but software made for Windows Mobile will simply not work (and never will) on Android. They will have to make a special Android version for it, and for utilities and tweaks that is simply not easily done.
dipje said:
There are a few other navigation solutions available, but I'm under the impression they are not the level of iGO or TomTom. Also, I have no idea on which countries they support or what price they are available at.
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ALKs CoPilot Live 8 is available on the market and is quite competitively priced at £22.60 for a one region version (e.g. UK maps).
I've not played with it extensively, as I bought it as a backup for my regular Garmin satnav unit, but it is definitely much slicker than some of the other alternatives for Android that I've tried (e.g. AndNav).
Regards,
Dave
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ALKs CoPilot Live 8 is available on the market and is quite competitively priced at £22.60 for a one region version (e.g. UK maps).
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Seems to be a good TomTom alternative! Thanks for the Tip! And they even have 'whole of western europe' or only 'benelux'. That makes it much more affordable if you never leave The Netherlands for example .
Since I'm an Android newbie myself (well, not even an Android newbie, still waiting for my Hero): On the CoPilot site, on 'where to buy' to say to go to the Android market. But they also have three picture, some sort of square barcode. I've seen those more around Android oriented pages. How do they work?
It's a QR code (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_Code) which is essentially a 2-dimensional barcode that can hold a variety of data. In this case, it is holding a URL.
If you download a barcode reader from the market (e.g. Barcode Scanner by ZXing team, which is the one I use) you can use the phones camera to "read" the barcode and it will then allow you to jump to the URL in the browser.
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Dave
Winmo apps on Android
You never know what could happen guys!
I currently dual boot windows 7 ultimate and Linux Ubuntu.
And as all linux users are aware, there is a nice little app called wine, Wine allows us to run and use many windows apps in a Linux enviroment...
Cant be that much different with Android (linux) and windows mobile.. can it?
Would be a fantastic step and i think possibly the final push for many winmo users!
Im still struggling to choose my self....From HD to Hero?? mmmm
There are few things you need to know about the young android:
1. You cannot save apps to memory card unless rooted.
2. You cannot receive files via bluetooth unless rooted.
overall, Android is a lot better than Winmob
Sorry if this is a stupid question :-(
I run a number of Java applets under WINMO via an applet manager (ESmertec for example). Will these run on Android?
CoPilot is working brilliantly on my Magic and I'll be putting it on my Hero when I get it at weekend.
Here's a great thing - any apps that I've purchased from the Android Market are tied to my google checkout account - When I sign in on my Hero and go to market, those apps will show as purchased and downloadable for me. Also my calendar and contacts will automatically sync to my Hero.
As far as WM apps are concerned, I've used both WM6 and android devices - Not missing anything on my Magic that I had on WM now that Turn By Turn Nav is there. Some apps are already ported over - Docs To go, and recently Touchpal Keyboards.
The ability to search for, find, pay for (if needed) and download software on the fly is just priceless. The fact that most apps are free or very cheap is even better. I'd not go back to WinMo now for anything...
However, you're just gonna have to get one in your hand and see for yourself - its all personal preference amongst the top handsets really.
well my upgrade is being delivered in the morning! yey! HTC Hero on orange..
Wonder if tomtom will port any time soon? should be an easy job considering the tom tom units are linux driven!
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Wonder if tomtom will port any time soon? should be an easy job considering the tom tom units are linux driven!
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I've been a TomTom user (on my HTC Trinity and HTC Touch Pro) for almost 3 years now. My HTC Hero will be arriving on Monday morning and I'm actually pretty excited about the change I'll be making to CoPilot.
Not that there's anything wrong with TomTom, but the newer version of CoPilot looks very cool, and it might be nice to try something different.
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I've been a TomTom user (on my HTC Trinity and HTC Touch Pro) for almost 3 years now. My HTC Hero will be arriving on Monday morning and I'm actually pretty excited about the change I'll be making to CoPilot.
Not that there's anything wrong with TomTom, but the newer version of CoPilot looks very cool, and it might be nice to try something different.
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I have heard a lot of people complaining about the version of CoPilot crashing on the Hero, not sure why this is. TomTom are releasing an iPhone version so who knows, might make its way over to Android in about 3 years?
For me, Copilot certainly crashed. It was not a patch on the stability of Garmin XT. The application felt unfinished with a lot of times when not a full crash, lack of keyboard reponse. Tbh, this failure was the straw that broke the Hero's back
I've not had a single problem with copilot on my magic. Fully tested with postcodes etc and long journeys. Its VERY cheap compared to most satnavs, can be used without any data assistance at all, and very quick to reroute etc.
I have heard about some probs but they have mostly seemed to be related to people trying to hack it or get the maps running without paying, and I know that copilot has added a few layers of security since I bought mine for magic - initially it just installed and needed your google checkout number.
Then it needed that, and you then got a license code and device ID thingy.
I had an update early on from version .303 to .327 which made mine stop loading - One email to support, told me to uninstall ALL, including the maps folder, and it was back working perfectly... I personally think the voices of folks having probs trying to get it running without paying are clouding the issue a bit - I've only heard from one (cbailey) who I know paid, but still got crashes.
Daisy - Was happy with my G1 (since Jan) Happy with my Magic(since beginning of June), and gonna be happy with my Hero I think...
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I've not had a single problem with copilot on my magic.
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You're in the UK right? I have been looking into copilot as a replacement for my old TomTom once I get my Hero. And although copilot said on their website they have european versions, if I browse the store (though Cyrket for example) I only see their USA map pack / application. Is this location / localization dependant somehow? Why can't I see the european maps in the market?
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Daisy - Was happy with my G1 (since Jan) Happy with my Magic(since beginning of June), and gonna be happy with my Hero I think...
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I think we got a big android fan here
In the Market, you get the option for a One Region map - Uk and Ireland comes under that - for £25.99 (Market shows 22 something but then checkout adds VAT for UK)
I think these options are only seen/available on market for android phones. I think they are not offered as products for other platforms, and you only get details once you have bought CoPilot 8 for android.
I personally downloaded CoPilot Central and got my maps via PC through that. You get a Membership name and password when you checkout at google Checkout - I was sent an email with details of that. The actual copilot programe for android downloads to your fone OTA like other apps, but the map fetcher is on PC. I think you CAN get the maps OTA to your fone, but I thougyht that seemed silly and would take ages and be heavy on your data allowance etc.
CoPilot central is free I think - You can get it here
http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/central/
Daisy xxx
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I think you CAN get the maps OTA to your fone, but I thougyht that seemed silly and would take ages and be heavy on your data allowance etc.
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You can get them OTA direct onto the phone via cellular data, but the program advises you do it over WiFi.
Regards,
Dave
cbailey said:
For me, Copilot certainly crashed. It was not a patch on the stability of Garmin XT. The application felt unfinished with a lot of times when not a full crash, lack of keyboard reponse. Tbh, this failure was the straw that broke the Hero's back
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No problems at all with CoPilot APART from TouchFlo seems to lock up when I exit. Not sure if anyone else has this problem.
Other than that, it has no lag what-so-ever, which I used to always have with TomTom. Big thumbs up for me, even more so when I sort out the locking issue when exit, but thats no biggie.

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