Remove memory card whilst phone on - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Have already searched for this but did not find one, so any keyboard-happy vets keep the bashing at bay please
Q. Is it safe to remove the memory card whilst the phon is on e.g. previous phone (symbian N95) had a 'safely remove memory card' option so that the card could be removed whilst the phone was on?
So basically is 'hot-swapping' alright/good for the phone?

Cannot find this exactly but the HD2 owners manual says to insert the card before powering on, so I would guess that the inverse would be true as well. To have the phone powered off before removing it ...
All I got ....

wellllllllll, you probably shouldn't, but i have done several times with no ill effects. (mind you, i never use the 'safely remove hardware' on the pc to remove usb devices either, , maybe im not the best for advice, after all, hehe)
You may find that if something tries to write to the card whilst it is out of the phone, the system will make a folder called 'storage card' and call your card 'storage card2' when you reinsert it, which of course messes with your settings and apps. If that does happen you just rename the storage card folder to something else (it wont let you delete it till after the next steps), then restart the phone and it will put storage card2 back to normal.

I suppose there is no 'official' and 'safe' way of going about 'hot-swapping' ?

Yank said card put in another card. I have done it will all my phones with no issue.

Just did it a few hours ago with the power on. No issues..yet..

it really doesnt matter. the option in ur old nokia was comparable to the thing, windows has for usb sticks and such.
i dont think u click each time on the "safe remove" button when u remove ur usb stick from the pc?^^
well, im always removin my sd card without powering down^^ no problems here

i just ried it while surfing away on some apps....didn't cause a problem...but prob not advisable...just in case ;-)
Matt

I have never shut off the phone to change card..
Has been working great since HTC Wizard...

I guess it is OK to do so, however, if your send tabs are associated with storage card (such as reader, weather tab - else than original etc.) it may cause some problem. Nothing which can't be solved though.

no problem at all. I do it all the time my SD works like a charm, no need to switch your phone off. It's just a waiste of time. I always make a copy of my SD just in case, but never had problems in any way. Just my 2 cents

...I also have no issues with that

same here too. however, i always ensure that nothing is running from my sd card before removal. i go to task manager to end all task and process that is running off my sd card.

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XDA storage card suddenly empty!!!

Hi all, I have gained lot's of valuable info from this forum, so I thought I would give some info back.
I have read about load of people having problems with data disappearing from their SD cards.
I have owned a XDA 1 for just over 1 year and have used it with a Toshiba 512Mb SD card without a single problem. I have stored data on it, deleted data, defragged, MP3s, films you name it no probs at all.
Then I installed SKYPE Version 2.0.0.39. I know you are supposed to have WIFI for Skype but I just wanted to check out the software.
Anyway enough of that the point is, about 2 days later I was watching a film off the storage card, 15 minutes into it the device went into an audio loop and required a soft reset. After trying to resume with the film I found out the storage card was completly empty no files at all :evil: It may just be a coincidence but I think the SKYPE was responsible. I know oter people have reported similar storage probs.
Missing data on SD Memory Card
I've had it happen a couple times, and I don't use Skype.
The first time it was the card itself. The last couple times, I was able to restore the information on the card with the Backup Utility.
I think it's a bug in the device, damn frustrating, too.
As with most any computer, you better be backing up regularly!
Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Has anyone had problems with the Storage Card completely dying? I cannot read my 1GB miniSD card on my Wizard device at all any more. It started being weird yesterday but after a reset I was able to access the data, but today it is totally gone.
A 16MB one works fine. :? These cards don't generally die that easily do they?
I think it's what they call SD wipeout. I've experienced the same problem a number of times already.. the only solution ive found is to ensure my sd card is in write protect before i insert in on my unit. its really frustrating..
I think it's what they call SD wipeout. I've experienced the same problem a number of times already.. the only solution ive found is to ensure my sd card is in write protect before i insert in on my unit. its really frustrating..
What I do about this
I turned my Card's ''Write Protect" on. I think it might be a good way.
I Have the some problem with my O2 XDAmini
SanDisk SD 1G
Me too. I had an experience of having the SD card (512MB Kingston) completely wiped, and another experience of partial (just the 'Program Files') directory. I can't remember that I've did on the 1st one, but as for the second wipe (partial), I'm trying out a new software that is installed in my SD card, however, I guess the software is not WM5 compatible and I have to had it uninstalled. I did a two soft-reset in the midst of the program running (e.g. hanged). Later I tried uninstall it, but not successful, so I just went into the card and delete it using Explorer. Then later, I've noticed all of the icons of programs installed in the SD are 'gone', only then I realised that my 'Program Files' folder was wiped.
I'm not sure how to prevent this problem, but now, I tried to had my card out before I do any soft-reset, especially in times where software hangs.
Probably it is good if all of us just try to recall the events just before you've experience a SD wipe out, probably we will find some pattern to this.

[Q] Windows complains about SD Card

Whenever I do a USB file transfer to my phone, Windows complains that there may be a problem with some files and offers to scan and fix the device. Should I let it, or just keep ignoring it?
Running CM7 on the phone and Windows7 on the pc, but it's been doing this for a while, even back on CommRom.
The reason it does that's is because either a) thereis a problem with the SD catftot b) you ate not ejecting it properly from your computer whenever you connect your phone to the PC. Most of the time the latter is the issue. You should let it run but also eject your device properly so you don't mess it up later
Dalamar1320 said:
The reason it does that's is because either a) thereis a problem with the SD catftot b) you ate not ejecting it properly from your computer whenever you connect your phone to the PC. Most of the time the latter is the issue. You should let it run but also eject your device properly so you don't mess it up later
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So I learned a very interesting tidbit about a year ago. The problem with flash memory is that if the power is disconnected during a WRITE operation, it will kill it (almost definitely). However, if you are only doing a READ operation (copy from device to computer, reading a TXT file, etc), then it is safe to pull the drive at any time.
The long and short of it is that After you have copied files to your phone, Windows continues to write excess data in the background, even after the file transfer dialog has gone away. And on my old mp3 player (Cowon S9) this led to many tears for a lot of people.
So always always always tell your family members who don't know the difference b/t WRITE and READ to simply ALWAYS "safely remove" their flash media.
Thanks folx, I'll let Windows have its way with the card next time it wants to.

[Q] 32 gb micro sd card help

I have recently purchased a 32gb micro sd card. When I go to put new music on it, it shows from the pc side that it is loading on the external drive(g2 phone) and form the phone it says that it is on there. However when I disconnect the phone only the last album that I put on there stays and the music player will state that "this type of file cannot be played". I have formatted the card through the computer and to no avail, it acts the same.. I did format it on the Android and it worked, temporarily and could load music from my computer for a few days, then it stopped. I am clueless as to what is going on with it. p.s. I tried placing it in a card reader and it did the same, but i did not format it first that time. I seem to think the android is placing a bad file on it causing all these issues. (again I say this because when I format it through the phone it will work temorarilly) any help would be great, I really want toload my phone with music.
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I have recently purchased a 32gb micro sd card. When I go to put new music on it, it shows from the pc side that it is loading on the external drive(g2 phone) and form the phone it says that it is on there. However when I disconnect the phone only the last album that I put on there stays and the music player will state that "this type of file cannot be played". I have formatted the card through the computer and to no avail, it acts the same.. I did format it on the Android and it worked, temporarily and could load music from my computer for a few days, then it stopped. I am clueless as to what is going on with it. p.s. I tried placing it in a card reader and it did the same, but i did not format it first that time. I seem to think the android is placing a bad file on it causing all these issues. (again I say this because when I format it through the phone it will work temorarilly) any help would be great, I really want toload my phone with music.
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Hi there,
It sounds like you might not actually be utilizing your SD card when connecting to a computer and instead are attempting to load your music directly to the internal phone memory.
Make sure after you connect your phone to your computer via USB that you put your phone in "Disk Drive" mode by dragging down your notification bar and selecting your connection type. Without selecting this option you will not have access to your SD card when plugging in your phone to a PC. Now when you got to "My Computer" on your PC you should see your SD Memory card in addition to "g2phone"
Let me know if you need further help
I'm relatively certain you bought a fake card. A few months ago I was shopping for one myself. I bought 3 different cards, all counterfeit, so I just threw down $100 to get my favorite brand, Lexar, and haven't had any problems since.
The exact problem you seem to be describing is a kind of technology that provides computers with a false amount of flash storage. When it is filled, and then used, only the true space of the card survives, which is why everything else disappears.
If you want to test the quality of the card for yourself, use h2testw 1.4. It is free, and while having a strange name, it is easy to use. You'll know in no time whether you've been scammed or not.
I have checked the card with h2test and it states that it does have 32 gigs on it but that the card is corrupt, I have formatted the quick way with sd formatter. What puzzles me is that at one time I was able to load more on it and now I cannot. I feel that there is a fix, I am just not finding it yet.

Any help here?

I left a friends, pulled my phone out (non rooted and only 3 days old) and it wouldn't turn on. I pressed and pressed but nothing I did would get the phone to activate, no lock screen... Nuthin!
I pulled the battery and tried again, it booted up, twice and then the lock screen was back. When I unlocked it I went to look at my apps and noticed quite a few were listed as com.blahblahblah.android.... whatever, with no icons...
Then I went to the app drawer and looked for those apps and (see image) that's what they looked like.... When I tried to press them I got a "this app is not installed" message.... WTF?
Anyone else ever get this?
I'm going to try a factory reset and see if it happens again.
are you talking about the greyed out ones? there on ur sd card, unmount and remount ur sd card, doesnt seem to be loading correctly. sometimes i have issues where 1 rogue app doesnt load, never had it where all of them did unless it wasnt mounted
I noticed that when I plugged into my pc that my internal storage didn't show up, only the sd card.... Strange.....
windows tends to pop up a window asking if you want "fix" or error check your sd card. if you accidentally chose it, you may have to reformat it and reinstall your apps.
I guess what was most disturbing was the phone becoming non-responsive. Just wondering if my sd card going to pot would do that? Or is my phone screwed up and wrecking my sd card or some other disconnect there?

Can't get info off Alcatel Streak w/SD formatted as internal storage

Okay, urgency low, but curiosity high. I have an Alcatel Streak - please don't laugh, it was free - and I decided to try formatting the SD card as internal storage. Kind of an experiment to see how it would work. Played with it for a few months then left the country for a year & a half. Getting ready to return, so got out my Streak (which is still locked to Cricket, cheap & fast & easy) and ran into a memory problem. I should mention that it always seemed to have a problem shutting off. You could shut it off but come back a few days later and discover it was back on and your battery was almost dead. Probably not related but who knows.
Anyway, so it said it couldn't update because my memory was full. It took me to the app page. Oh well, so I uninstalled about 1.8 Gigs of apps, but the available storage never increased and the message kept coming on. Okay, so maybe a fresh start. I'll just take off all my stuff (not much) off and transfer it to my hard drive. I plugged it in but it never showed up in explorer. Not in Windows or Linux. Tried updating drivers, etc, but no luck. No problem, I'll just take the SD card out & plug it into my PC directly. But neither Windows nor Linux could see anything on the card, a result of formating it for internal storage from what I've read. Hmmm, okay, I'll use Bluetooth. Great, connected to one of my other phones no problem. Sent files and ... nothing. Couldn't send or receive anything via Bluetooth. Okay, try it with the computer. Still no luck, Windows or Linux. Okay let's try this WiFi Direct thing .... yeah you guessed it, nothing. Alright, I know, I'll share them to Google Drive! Ha! But the joke was on me. After only a few hundred megabytes transfered, an error. Phone storage is full, please clear out some space. Now Settings won't do anything but take me to that message. So... we need phone storage just to upload to Google Drive? Okay, maybe it stores everything in a temp folder first. A temp folder smartly located only in system storage which cannot be moved to SD or internal storage.
So, any ideas as to how to get any info off that phone? Nothing major so if it can't be done I'll live, but I'm very curious as to why nothing wants to come off that phone. Weird. I am out of ideas here.... Thanks for reading and any help you can provide.
PS. To clarify, on plugging it into the computer, usually my phones display a message, I can tap the notification and choose charging, transfer files, sync pictures, internet access, whatever. But that option never appears on the Alcatel Streak phone, it just charges. The cable and USB ports work fine as all other phones show up. If there are any other things I need to clarify, please just let me know, thanks!!

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