extended battery.... - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys, a simple Q&A here I hope!
I've had my device now for several months and find the battery life is abysmal, whilst there could be several issues like ROM, background apps etc I can't for the life of me seem to get more than 9 hours out of it. All I use it for in the day is music whilst at work and that's with sense disabled and the radio turned off also. From this I've just ordered the extended battery, but here is the question to see if I've made a noob error or not;
When I got the device I didn't do the 24 hour charge cycle, was too impatient about wanting to play with it, so is that the root of all my problems? I was under the impression that these newish batteries would only take a few hours and your away?
Any help/ lulz about me forking out £40 is greatly appreciated as always!
Thanks!

bates_1974 said:
Hi guys, a simple Q&A here I hope!
I've had my device now for several months and find the battery life is abysmal, whilst there could be several issues like ROM, background apps etc I can't for the life of me seem to get more than 9 hours out of it. All I use it for in the day is music whilst at work and that's with sense disabled and the radio turned off also. From this I've just ordered the extended battery, but here is the question to see if I've made a noob error or not;
When I got the device I didn't do the 24 hour charge cycle, was too impatient about wanting to play with it, so is that the root of all my problems? I was under the impression that these newish batteries would only take a few hours and your away?
Any help/ lulz about me forking out £40 is greatly appreciated as always!
Thanks!
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The 24 hour cycle isn't needed. I didn't do it and get a good couple of days out of it with moderate use.
Playing music on it will drain the battery pretty quick, as speakers/headphones aren't the most efficient form of activity to use a battery with. Official audio playback is 12 hours max, and that'll be quite a low volume with standard headphones.
Sorry to say, but it might be best to hard reset, and then try installing each program/tweak one at a time, and testing the battery life in between.
The battery issues we seem to find on here are usually caused by a dodgy program / installation / process running in the background.

I was thinking that, looking at task manager I seem to have a constant 43%-53% variable on the program memory, that's on the latest energy rom after a few hard resets, not really got anything installed either as I've simply linked shortcuts from the sd card rather than reinstalling after every rom change/hard reset, backlight is always set to 30% yet in the time it's took me to type this I've already dropped 3%!

With the new Li-ion batterys I really don't think there is an optimal way to condition the cells before 'normal' use. Some people absolutely swear blind by it, but after owning 4-5 HTC devices I've always found the WM OS to be a bit of a dog where keeping charge is concerned, and after a few trys on various phones I don't bother with charge discharge cycles anymore.
And as for the extended battery, I would definitely suggest getting a cheapy from eBay, you can pick them up for a fiver and they just as good at the HTC stock ones. Save yourself a few quid and keep your phone streamline.

I'm thinking my best bet is to reset the lot, hard reset phone and wipe sd, could be something on there maybe? Might just do the trick if I run the phone 'stock' and install only must haves if I need them, if same problem occurs, defective battery maybe?
Worth a shot I guess before spending more money, cheers for the feedback guys.

just a quick update, thought I'd try a hard reset, clean sd card, used myphone to restore contacts, 3g connected, standby for the past 70 minutes bar quick look on BBC sport mobile, already dropped 17%!!!!!

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Battery on Touch Pro - HELP!

I am having a terrible time with the battery on my new Touch Pro. My battery goes dead in about 2 hours and unless I turn it off completely, I cant seem to get it to charge.
I finally ran the NuePower driver to see what my power drain is vs. my charging ability. I have attached a screen shot.
The phone can charge at 439 mA while connected to my laptop. The drain is at 523 mA when the internet is active.
When the internet is not active, the drain drops to 220mA which is enough to charge the phone.
I have verified that WIFI isn't turned on. I have also turned off Bluetooth and it doesn't seem to have an impact.
I had a mogul for years and used it in this way and never had battery problems. The phone would easily last all day.
Has anyone else seen this and if so, do you have any suggestions?
The only thing that really drains my power on my HTC Pro is ActiveSync. A quick fix is to use the Adavanced configuration tool and change the power consumption options to your liking. Also I heard changing to a new theme or Rom helps the battery last considerably longer
I had the same problem with my brand new TP. the battery only lasted 4 hours on standby,and used to get really hot. I only had it for a couple of days then I took it back to the store, and got a new one. The new one is a lot better and doesn't get as hot.
hex9048 said:
...I took it back to the store, and got a new one. The new one is a lot better and doesn't get as hot.
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A new battery or a new phone?
took about a week for my battery to get "broken in" and at that point i was going about14-18 hours with TF3D running. I am now using Spbmobile shell 2 (really just waiting for SPB MS3) and i can go nearly 2 days now with just texting, a few calls, and checking email and internet a few times. It will last for a full 24 hours with heavy use as well.
When I first got my Sprint TP I only got about 7 to 8 hours of battery. What I did was to disable Rev A on the phone. Now I get about 24 to 30 hours
Well this is pretty common on just about every forum who discusses the TP....
My battery is much better now that I flashed the MightyROM...Apparently he has some power tweaks in there that actually work...
I also found a slightly bigger battery that fits inside the standard case on Ebay...
I now get through the day on a single charge provided I don't make a zillion calls all day...
chefcesarpr said:
When I first got my Sprint TP I only got about 7 to 8 hours of battery. What I did was to disable Rev A on the phone. Now I get about 24 to 30 hours
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Sorry, I am new to this forum and phone (1 week old). What exactly do you mean by "disabling Rev A?" I know from reading the threads that switching to a different ROM would help however since I am a newbie, I dont want to risk flashing my brand new phone and potentially messing it up. Thanks for any help!
Disabling Rev A on a Sprint Phone, will make it go back to EVDO rev 0. Is not as fast as Rev A but is a lot more stable and is better for the battery. To do this you have to get your msl code, I'm attaching the utility that I use to get my code. Just install it to your device memory. when you run it tap "get spc/msl, tap yes to the warning and write down the number that it will provide for you, that's your phone msl. Now tap on Launch EPST and hit edit, enter your code, on view info go to "Data Parameters" and there you will see Rev.A, disable it and hit menu and Ok, reset your device and ready.
You may need Net Framework 3.5 for this app to work properly
I did not wrote this app nor I take credit for it.
chefcesarpr said:
Disabling Rev A on a Sprint Phone, will make it go back to EVDO rev 0. Is not as fast as Rev A but is a lot more stable and is better for the battery. To do this you have to get your msl code, I'm attaching the utility that I use to get my code. Just install it to your device memory. when you run it tap "get spc/msl, tap yes to the warning and write down the number that it will provide for you, that's your phone msl. Now tap on Launch EPST and hit edit, enter your code, on view info go to "Data Parameters" and there you will see Rev.A, disable it and hit menu and Ok, reset your device and ready.
You may need Net Framework 3.5 for this app to work properly
I did not wrote this app nor I take credit for it.
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Thanks alot for your help! I actually used a cab that I found here or on PCC that has worked great for the first day. I pretty much went the whole day without charging which hasnt happened since I got the phone last week. However, after forgetting to unplug the charger to my phone last night, I woke up to an unresponsive phone. I know I have read that problem with other people. So I just wont charge it overnight. Well back to the battery, this cab seems to work quite fine so far. Here it is in case other people want to give it a try and maybe let other people know about your experiences.
hi I used to have this problem too. at least until 2 days a go. my battery only last for 10 hours. That was the best my battery can reach. then i find that htc.com release a new update rom. i upgrade my rom then as suggested by some forum i discharge my battery till my TP turned off it self
They says to ensure that TP cannot boot up again when we press the power button. The sign is a red text saying "battery is too low..... bla bla bla".
Then discard the SIM card (if any), Then charge the phone at least 8 hours (12 hours for best result). You SHOULD NOT turned on the phone while charging.
The result :
I do this step at march 18 2009, 10 Pm. Finished charging with 100% battery reading at 10 Am (march 19). After using it for about 2.5 hours calling, about 45 minutes GPS (Garmin Mobile XT), i still have 41% battery today (march, 20 2009 : 5 PM)
A good improvement for my TP. I will report the next days result.
May be some one would try this as well? hope my report could help.
Ps: im not sure that new rom is one of the factors causing this battery live improvement. so you may try this without updating rom
I posted this on another forum. Seems that some of these are shipping with defective batteries. Same thing happened to me earlier this week. Battery would only hold a charge 10-12 hours and I wasnt using it much at all. Took it back and got a whole new TP, this one's battery has been working just fine and I leave Bluetooth enabled and everything.
If you are having issues with the battery dying 8-12 hours in and you arent really using it, take it back and get a new one.
Battery problem
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/bacy20htch3-bk.htm
This took care of my battery problem. Dave.
Asphyx said:
Well this is pretty common on just about every forum who discusses the TP....
My battery is much better now that I flashed the MightyROM...Apparently he has some power tweaks in there that actually work...
I also found a slightly bigger battery that fits inside the standard case on Ebay...
I now get through the day on a single charge provided I don't make a zillion calls all day...
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Where did you find this battery? can you point me to it??
bishop0114 said:
I am having a terrible time with the battery on my new Touch Pro. My battery goes dead in about 2 hours and unless I turn it off completely, I cant seem to get it to charge.
I finally ran the NuePower driver to see what my power drain is vs. my charging ability. I have attached a screen shot.
The phone can charge at 439 mA while connected to my laptop. The drain is at 523 mA when the internet is active.
When the internet is not active, the drain drops to 220mA which is enough to charge the phone.
I have verified that WIFI isn't turned on. I have also turned off Bluetooth and it doesn't seem to have an impact.
I had a mogul for years and used it in this way and never had battery problems. The phone would easily last all day.
Has anyone else seen this and if so, do you have any suggestions?
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I had issues with this when I got my Touch Pro. I had to charge it about 3-4 times a day. Now, I charge it 1-2 a day. This is how I managed to achieve that.
First, I bought a Seidio 1500mAh battery on ebay. This gave me a little extra juice. And no need for a bulky back cover. http://cgi.ebay.com/Seidio-1500-Bat...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item35a3e9b967
Then, I used Codybear's ASKicker to stop Active Sync from running in the background...it eats up juice. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=72242
miriror: http://rapidshare.com/files/268159114/SHKCustoms_-_ASKicker_Beta1.cab
Con: you won't be able to activesync- this app prevents it from starting up.
Now comes a super program that made a huge difference, Nuerom's DynamicClock http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueDynamicClock.aspx This useful app slows your clockspeed down so it won't utilized alot of your battery. You can also keep it at max speed-but watch your battery drained faster.
For example: I have the app activated it now and it reads: [email protected] (with backlight on 245/[email protected])-now set at default:[email protected] the voltage...depending on how much apps you are running and installed- you might not noticed the sluggish.
Con: Some of your apps may require higher speed, so you might have to change the speed back- but it is all of matter of just making a quick change.
I also recommend G-light. Get it here: http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-g-light.html This useful app, adjust the backlight based on the environment. I don't have to ever adjust the background manually. This saves the battery by lowering the backlight.
All these apps (and batter) have made a HUGE difference. When I did a hard reset, i noticed that the battery went from 100% to 50% in about 1hour with minor use. After installing the apps in- it went from 100% to 80%...again it will vary depending on your apps you have installed.
Hope this helps.

Battery Drain - hardware or software?

First of all, hello to everyone. I have been reading through a lot of threads here in the last few weeks after getting my HD2, especially the ones about battery life.
I have never owned a smartphone, so I have no comparison but I'm barely getting through 1 day of use when fully charged! And I'm not even using it that much yet, Wifi is off, no data transfers, just some texting and calls. I have installed Bandswitch and Battlog, didn't really help though.
Got the phone brand new (T-Mobile US) and haven't done any major tweaking yet, it's still pretty much stock with a few programs that I installed so far.
Do you guys have a similar experience or is it completely different? I love the phone, but if I dont even get through one day of use (and I want to use the phone in the future, not just for surfing but for music streaming or web browsing), I would have to bring it back.
Any help appreciated!
It's just something you have to live with, buy a spare battery, or the extended battery, flash a lighter ROM, adjust screen brightness turn off push e-mails etc etc.
I can get 2 days battery from very light use. i.e. a few texts and calls a day, no Wi-Fi, bluetooth or internet browsing. That's just how smartphones are.
So how do you do it on a daily basis?
My battery is fully charged in the morning and lets assume I'm using the phone for what I bought it for - some music streaming, gps here and there if I need it, some web browsing, calls and texts etc.
I haven't even started using most of the features of the phone and my battery has died twice on my already while I was out at night.
How can that be normal or acceptable? I can't charge my battery every 6h...
brutzel1 said:
So how do you do it on a daily basis?
My battery is fully charged in the morning and lets assume I'm using the phone for what I bought it for - some music streaming, gps here and there if I need it, some web browsing, calls and texts etc.
I haven't even started using most of the features of the phone and my battery has died twice on my already while I was out at night.
How can that be normal or acceptable? I can't charge my battery every 6h...
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Maybe you shouldn't have a smart phone? Battery technology is ****, it's a shame, but it's true. The only thing I can suggest is a spare battery, I carry one everywhere.
I generally watch an hour and a half of video a day on my phone, text, call, use the internet and I can still make a 9 hour day with 40%+ battery left, and just incase I am out and about in the evening before I have a chance to get the phone on charge I have the spare.
But with that said half hours charge from the mains will give you a good 30% topup I very seldom have to swap the batterys and I use a pretty juicy ROM.
Kalavere said:
It's just something you have to live with
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or maybe not
Given his kind of use, 2 days should be normal. Right now I'm squeezing 3 days out of this battery, and that's only because I swap it out when it's at 10%, otherwise it could be a little longer... and a few calls here and there is not the only thing I did with it... it's still my work pda after all
Since it's pretty much stock, unless it gets better with time (the first recharging cycles are the worst) and even after a hard reset it won't get better, it probably is something wrong not software related.
Install battclock and check the standby battery drain, shouldn't be much higher than 4mA, up to 7mA could be normal, any higher than that, especially if significant, and you've got something wrong, and found the cause to the short battery life.
First off, buy a couple of cheap oem batteries from here...
Now, these eBay batteries have performed slightly better than the original battery...
Some of us smartphone users are so used to poor battery life we have power charging cradles at home work and car just to keep the charge up... And have spare batteries every in case of emergency...
I take my phone off the charger at 6am to go to work... My avg day is 6-10 calls, 20 reminders, an hour of UNO, an hour as a wifi router and I return home at 5pm with 50-60% battery life...
they are trying to make batteries smaller and thinner so they can make the phones thinner and smaller so battery life is compromised. But you do need to give it some time to settle in.
Back up batteries and cradles to charge them are cheap and an easy solution. So are extra chargers to keep at work, in the car, etc. Most people can charge their phone at least an hour during the day and that should give you all you need.
The only smartphone that I didn't carry an extra battery for was the moto q9c, because it came with an extended life battery. But on these phones, that probably isn't the best option.
So what did you guys do to improve the battery life of your HD2? Are there any specific programs (I heared about G-Profile) you are not supposed to use or did you guys just deinstall all the T-Mobile Apps?
If I can just get 1 day of actual use out of it I am OK with that. I just dont want to have die every second or third day if I use more often than normal...
Any suggestions or may tests I could do? I feel like I could stream music on Slacker for about 90 Minutes and the battery would be dead...
EDIT: Just did Battlog for about 15 Minutes, my phone uses between 15ma and 31ma when in standby. So where do I start, how do I find the culprit?
I love huge screen HTC devices and Im a power user, so my solutions for power issues are:
Callpod Fueltank Duo
http://palmtops.about.com/od/accessoriesperipherials/fr/Callpod-Fueltank-Duo-Review.htm
Mugen Extended-size High-capacity 2600mAh Battery for HTC HD2
http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.com/
There is a 15% discount right now, better hurry.
Extra chargers and thats it! Now I browse, calls, emails, music, videos, TV stream (Slingplayer) and maximize all of the other features of my HD2 t9193.
Software and the end-user are the cause behind battery drain. I've got 2.5days out of moderate use so I don't think it's the hardware at all.
Methods for testing battery consumption and proof it is typically software related
Hi,
At the risk of looking like I'm trying to hijack this thread, I started a discussion on this particular subject a while ago as feedback on my finding after reading almost all the threads I could find regarding battery use on the HD2. Lude219 is 100% correct, the issue is always software related (yea, I know there might be exceptions to the rule) and my phone was a prime example of that.
See the thread below that explains how to measure your battery consumption, has logs and screen shots from users you have high consumption and also people who have systems where battery life is more than 48 hours so that you can compare your results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718173
Regards
I'm also sure it's software related. My phone would use app. 2% overnight with all connections closed. This i tested over months. Then suddenly without me changing anything drastic software wise, it pulled 5% per 3-4 hours. So after going thru all the cleaning routines nothing helped exept a good "ram cleaning" . Somehow or other the phone starts processes over time wich consume alot of power. One would have to look into it with a process manager to find out what exactly it is. WinMo seems to be quite sofisticated looking at all the running processes. So my view is , keeping the system tidy might be the only way to save the extra power.This is where the huge diffrence to other platforms seems to be, it can take quite a while until you have configured your phone the way you need it. I am useing the stock rom 1.66 German
thanks you guys for participating and sharing your thoughts.
But now, here is a thinker:
Last night, I let my battery drain all the way to zero and then recharged it at night. The only other thing I did was installing BSBTweaks and Touch X Taskmanager. I also changed my Bandswitch Settings to turn off data when not used and put it at 60 sec (instead of 500 sec before).
And I couldnt believe what I was seeing, I took my phone off the charger this morning around 8.30am and now at 7pm I am still at 84%!!! I did not use the phone heavily but sent and received a few texts, made 1 call and played around with it for a little bit. Similiarly to what I did in the beginning after I got the phone, but then the battery had almost died at 7pm!
I am super happy and hope it stays like that but cannot explain why all the sudden it is that different...
Hi everyone,
This is a very usefull thread, for me it is, thanks to everybody that answered.
regrding the last post, a noobish quesition is
”Bandswitch Settings to turn off data when not used and put it at 60 sec (instead of 500 sec before): how do i do this?”
I remember stumbling upon this setting the day i got the phone and started viciously going through it.
Somehow it didnt store in my memory the path i went that day so i can try doing what the man sugested.
So if anyone can lay a hand, much obliged.
Regards
i lost 12 pct over night in 9 hours with my radio turned off last night and only gmail and texts were open...
with battlog how do i do the test so it stays in standby? it keeps turning the screen on and off when i run benchmark
You may want to flash a new radio. Try a new one each day and measure battery life. I use radio 2.12.50 and have had a good experience.
yeah but with my radio turned off the radio shouldnt affect it shoudl it?
i use blackberry to stream pandora radio thru aux for about 8 hours a day and it still has 2 bars left after that.
HD2 just sits there and kills the battery lol
what kind of phone is that when you have to disable all its functions every time you dont use it?
seriously this is called unfinished product or poor design, that is beeing sold to customers as a next best thing.
you guys can argue with me all you want. i heard many excuses from users advocating the companies. such as. if you dont like this than pay more for a better product. well HD2 is a better product, its a 500 dollar phone damn it.
but you dont realize that even the "better" products suffer from same underdevelopment syndrome.
companies spend millions on consumer research and consumers spend millions on **** they dont need every year. cows eat grass, consumers eat garbage made by big companies.
where are the better products? they dont exist because it became "normal" to have a faulty OS or for your phone buttons to fall off, or battery to explode.
companies worked long and hard to make consumers get used to the idea that garbage is just a part of life, and worked long and hard to minimize costs of production, and cut corners.
which corners?
the final QA testing that is not beeing done by a company, so they can release the phone 3 months earlier, the consumers pay for the phone and test it.
we work for the company and we pay for it instead of getting paid.
the phone breaks oh how sad ,
company takes note(dont use this cheap glue or the buttons fall off, get a lil more expensive glue next year)
so they use better glue and cut another corner and we buy another "new and improved phone" and this time screen goes dim oh dang not again...and it continues.
do you disconnect your car battery every night so it doesnt die? or when you buy a lexus do you drive with your AC off because it cant pull the car around when ac is on same time as the stereo?

[Q] Battery issues.........

I've had my Flyer a few months now and in the last few days the battery seems to be draining very quickly. I charged it full again last night and this morning it was at 88%.
I've turned everything off so just the bare bones of the device are alive and i'm using Juice Defender, and still no joy. It's only started doing this in the last few days so i presume the battery is on the way out very quickly.
I've let it drain to 10% and charged it, and it's made no difference.
I'm not going to mess about with settings and more waiting to see what it does etc...., I really just want to get a new battery and be done with.
Where can i buy a new battery? I've had a look on fleabay and no joy.
Any suggestions where to get one, part no. etc...?
Many thanks in advance
Recruiter1 said:
I've had my Flyer a few months now and in the last few days the battery seems to be draining very quickly. I charged it full again last night and this morning it was at 88%.
I've turned everything off so just the bare bones of the device are alive and i'm using Juice Defender, and still no joy. It's only started doing this in the last few days so i presume the battery is on the way out very quickly.
I've let it drain to 10% and charged it, and it's made no difference.
I'm not going to mess about with settings and more waiting to see what it does etc...., I really just want to get a new battery and be done with.
Where can i buy a new battery? I've had a look on fleabay and no joy.
Any suggestions where to get one, part no. etc...?
Many thanks in advance
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happened with me also....10% battery drained overnight...
what app is using most of ur battery?
sometimes push service in some free market apps drains a lot of battery and it keeps running even when app is closed... check running processes... well i uninstalled that app with push service and all became normal
Thanks for that but i've had a look through and it would seem that there isn't anything happening over night that i'm not expecting or that is being very hard on the battery.
I'm pretty confident the battery is the culprit here. Sourcing a new battery however is proving to be a problem. Somebody somewhere must be selling them.
I've just been on to HTC in the UK, they have a service centre not very far away from me and they won't sell me a battery or even give me a part no. for the battery.
Come on, somebody must know where to get one.
I think i might have found somewhere in China...
Battery - BG41200
3.7v - 4000mAh
If the prices were cheap enough how many of you would be interested in buying a battery for your Flyer.
Perhaps do a group buy?
i thought flyers battery is not user replaceable?
It's very replaceable and easy to do.
Here......
http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-htc-flyer/6256123
I'm going to have to look at getting a new battery sooner or later. It's getting to the point hat the battery is always running low by the time I get home in the evening or even running out. With pretty much the same use it used to be good for a day and a half easily. Flyer was purchase may or june 2011 so it really needs to last another 16 months or so.
Well......I ask again. If anyone knows of where to buy an internal Flyer battery please post a linky.
I posted this thread earlier today
"I just wanted to know what people are getting out of their batteries. I unplug mine around 7:30 am when i leave for work. When I get to work i turn on my wifi (rooted thunderbolt) and leave that on all day. I have the setting to turn wifi off (flyer) when screen is off. When I get home around 5:30 i switch to my home network and by 8-10 my battery is pretty much gone. Is this normal battery life or are there any tricks I'm not aware of that will help with battery. My wife has an Ipad 1 and she seems to get days of use out of it before she needs to charge it.
Also, I don't watch movies or video at work... most of my use is surfing, twitter and email."
I'm trying to figure out if what is normal battery life and If mine came with a bad battery. If so Yes I would be interested in getting a new one.
The Ipad battery has much longer life and is a much bigger capacity battery. The new HTC Jetstream also has a much bigger capacity battery as well. I think HTC have learned lessons on how much battery power these flyers use, but unfortunately have used Flyer owners as guinea pigs, rather like the first Apple iPhone but that had terrible battery issues as well although they've gotten better over time.
When my Flyer was brand new the battery lasted for ages and i couldn't understand what people were on about the battery not lasting for very long. So up until a few weeks ago my battery was doing fine and then almost within a day or two the battery started to run down quickly and has been doing so ever since. I've since loaded/unloaded new ROMS and done all the usual procedures for deleting the battery stats etc..., and still no joy.
I think the problem is with the battery not being man enough for the job at 4000mAh, and the drain is such that the battery is being worked hard since September last year (in my case) to a point where it is now progressively failing. I'm not so sure either that it's all that good in terms of quality.
Most of that time it has been charging from one source or another. If my Flyer isn't in the car or in the house it's not often being used battery only unlike most other people probably use the battery only a lot, so i can't understand why the battery is failing when it's not even that old.
This is a big issue with the Flyer and for what the device cost i would have expected a lot better. I think the Flyer in itself is a fantastic piece of kit that i will no doubt keep for a very long time as i did my XDA IIi but i never had problems buying another battery for my IIi. HTC will not sell me a battery, they insist i send the device to them and they will swap it but will cost about £50-£60 for the pleasure. I flatly refuse to pay that!!
What is required is a bigger capacity battery (6000-8000mAh) in the same packaging as the current battery however, i think for now i would happily settle for another of the same battery if i could just get hold of one.
So far it's proving an impossible task!!
Just to add: Once you've made sure there aren't apps being opened at startup that don't need to be opened until you're ready to use them, also make sure wifi/bluetooth, mobile data is all off when not required, and all the usual tweakes to make sure animations are off, screen is on the lowest brightness etc..., then there is not a lot more you can do. I don't know how much use something like Juice Defender will be as that only makes sure your data connections are off at night and other times you specify. I've tried it and it didn't help at all so i don't know what else to suggest apart from turning the radio part of the phone off completely at night if it isn't on charge.
If i leave my phone off charge all night, having fully charged first, i wake up in the morning and it's down to around 86-88% battery.

Awful battery life?

Hi all,
Got my 920 a few days ago, and while it's a beautiful phone, I'm finding the battery life to be awful.
I've only installed a few apps on it, otherwise it's vanilla. With WiFi and GPS off and only moderate Internet usage (mostly Facebook and IM+) i get a max of 10 hours out of it.
My Galaxy Note easily does twice that with the same usage.
Is there anything I need to check/look for, are there apps that show what's chewing through my battery so much?
I love the phone but that sort of battery life means it can never replace my Note as my main phone.
Thanks!
I should add, it's running the Portico update. No crashes or random reboots that I've seen.
I have only had mine for a few days, but I have found with all WP8 devices (and I have tried most) a hard reset made a difference to battery life. Annoying, but true it seems, well, true for me. I have no idea if it is a placebo but might be worth trying if you can be bothered.
For your info, I am getting good battery life on my 920.
You need to discharge and recharge the battery a few times before the battery life gets better. In about a week you should find the battery life improves.
It was the same for WP7 too..... The software will calibrate the battery over time.
The Jones said:
I have only had mine for a few days, but I have found with all WP8 devices (and I have tried most) a hard reset made a difference to battery life. Annoying, but true it seems, well, true for me. I have no idea if it is a placebo but might be worth trying if you can be bothered.
For your info, I am getting good battery life on my 920.
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I actually did a hard reset when I first got the phone home, out of habit really. I don't mind doing it again, but maybe I'll give the battery a few more days and see what happens.
Also check your background apps.
it'll get better
when I first got my lumia 920 the battery life was shorter than my old NL 900.. but after a week or so and after I did a deep cycle now the battery will easily last for 48 hours... in battery settings it usually shows 4-5 days :good:
battery life is hit or miss, some days you'll get wonderful battery life and others its horrible, I know that its hard to measure battery life because you just cant replicate the exact same usage everyday. I find it hard to believe that the galaxy s3 (basically the same hardware) has better battery life, battery is only 100 maH more.
I honestly believe its a operating system/ application issue, I believe that there are some applications that are cycling and wasting precious juice from the battery. better coded apps/ better OS control will really be a big deal in the next os upgrade.
emenny81 said:
battery life is hit or miss, some days you'll get wonderful battery life and others its horrible, I know that its hard to measure battery life because you just cant replicate the exact same usage everyday. I find it hard to believe that the galaxy s3 (basically the same hardware) has better battery life, battery is only 100 maH more.
I honestly believe its a operating system/ application issue, I believe that there are some applications that are cycling and wasting precious juice from the battery. better coded apps/ better OS control will really be a big deal in the next os upgrade.
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I've found turning off background tasks which are not required makes a big difference on the battery. Each time I install a new app, I look at the background tasks and see that it doesn't get added. Only tasks I have running are weather and a news reader app.
Also, I will not allow location on apps that don't need to. Searching for location when an app opens also drains a battery somewhat.
That being said, with my use, I easily get 2+ days (48+ hrs) of battery life.
May be it have to be synced
In my opinion, one reason why this phone need the run in for the battery life is in the first few days it need to be synced with many clouds, facebook, facebook photo, nokia drive....etc. As this will make poor the battery life in the first run in. But after one week everything done, the battery life becomes better. Just guess.
I've also noticed that with bluetooth turned off I get substantial more life out of the battery(but I tend to forget to turn it on when getting in my car, then I dont get calls on my cars bluetooth). I agree with disabling push and do a manual poll on your email servers, I dont have facebook or any of that stuff on the phone. Im mainly on twitter and on my email.
from time to time I see the Location services running when I unlock the phone, I've disabled the location service on bing search but that still comes up from time to time. Like I mentioned before I think the OS has tons of pros and like any other OS in its "early stages"(I say this because windows mobile has been out for some time pre iOS and Android, but it will get better over time as the company realizes main stream OS are getting replaced as the go to home PC.
My experience with Nokia Phones is they need 1 or 2 weeks to get the full battery life....
The first 4-5 days they really have a horrible battery live.. But as I said it's getting better after 1-2 weeks...
BTW I'm really impressed with the battery life of my HTC 8S, I'm getting 2-3 days out of it with heavy usage...
My Lumia 920 achieves a little bit more than 1 day..
I've had the phone since it was released(when it really bad battery problems), I was going to go with the 8x but I really love the camera on the lumia 920.....
Ok for the past two days I've been using my phone with bluetooth off and i've been getting really good battery life, a friend of mine has a surface rt and he was having an issue with the battery depleting even when he left the device on sleep for hrs, he noticed that after disabling bluetooth the issue with the battery went away, this clearly points out an issue with the os and the handling of Bluetooth.
Surface RT and Lumia 920 have a totally different OS i don't think you can compare them that easy...
And it well known the Bluetooth deceases the battery life of every smartphone... It's the same with NFC (Tap&Send) and super sensitive touch or Wifi...
Just turn off the things you don't need...
My Samsung Note 10.1 tablet has no noticeable difference with Bluetooth on or off (that is, not actually using it, just having it enabled). It's using BT 4.0 which has very good power efficiency.
Any idea what revision of BT our Lumias have?
It also makes a difference if you switch your bluetooth on to be visible or not...
Ii is the same with Wifi you can activate to be notified when open networks are around... If you do so.. your wifi will use more power because it is constantly searching for new hotspots...
Well, it's been a few days & recharges, and it seems the battery is getting better.
Thanks for all the suggestions from everyone. I was severely disappointed with the initial battery life, and while it's getting better, I hope it keeps improving. Switching background data services such as push mail and chat makes sense when it comes to preserving battery of course, but so far from all the smartphones I've owned, this is the worst performing of all in terms of battery. I don't want to have to manually check mail or log in/out of chat, since that defeats the purpose of having a smartphone imho.
It's the only thing I have against the Lumia so far... even though WP8 is not as customisable as my Android phone, I certainly appreciate the design and how it works. I'll just keep crossing fingers for more battery conditioning
I think there is something like a help app from nokia on the phone...
You can disable the live tiles you don't use and the automatic xbox live sync service...
I wouldn't totally disable email sync... I just reduce the syncing interval...
If you have a lot of email accounts (maybe more) it even makes sense forwarding them all to a new email account and syncing all your emails
with this 1 account...
There are a lot of dirty little tricks to improve your battery life... Maybe every
single one don't make much difference... But all of them do...
With a lot of frustration, I have been experiencing high battery drain also, with the phone staying warm even while idle.
Following various comments, fixes, could be' on various forums, I hard reset my new, less than one week old, phone.
I was kind of annoyed, surprised it took a very long time to recover, with a picture of gears churning on the screen.
Finally it booted up with a message, reset or restore. Wasn't expecting the choice. I chose restore to see what's up.
There was an amazing amount of stuff to restore.
After restore completed, my phone was still having battery drain issues. I decided to check out what this back up and restore thing was.
Pardon me I never read the manual. No need to go into discussion of the process.
I then chose to disable back up and restore, soft reset, and boom. Battery usage is now at -2%/hr. instead of -12-20% idle.
Have any of you tried this?
First posted at: wpcentral
http://forums.wpcentral.com/nokia-lumia-920/201672-40.htm#post1888873

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Anker 3200mAh replacement battery
I'd recommend reviewing the Anker 3200mAh note 3 battery. I decided to get a replacement for my 1.5+ year old stock battery and this was the one that was getting the best ratings for the least money. At first I was disappointed, as it didn't seem like there was much if any improvement over the old stock battery. However, after a few weeks I was noticing significant improvement. I decided to try consciously squeeze the longest life I could out of it during my 24 hour shift. I was shocked with the results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3326605&stc=1&d=1432330766
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3326606&stc=1&d=1432330766
I'm running 4.4.2, rooted, with various battery saving modules in xposed including greenify, wakelock terminator and some features in wanam. I haven't really done much else. I leave 4G, wifi, gps and bluetooth on all the time because I'm too lazy to switch them on/off, brightness is on auto, but I also have screen filter for night time. I have multiple adblockers in place, dunno if that has any effect. I changed most options to display black background if possible. I feel like I use my device fairly heavily. Tethered for a few hours, watched several hours of HD video, torrented a large file from a friend, dozens of texts, a terrible 20 minute phone call, my screen timeout is set at 5 minutes... so yeah. I'm quite impressed with this battery, would recommend to anyone looking to replace their old battery. It's not quite as good as the battery life when I first bought it but it was a virgin device back then with a whole lot less going on and I have a feeling it would stack up well with the official sammy battery.
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Any other suggestions for alternative batteries? I'm waiting for my used N9005 to be delivered and I'm looking for a couple of spare batteries and a charger. In the past I used Anker's S3 replacements but had 3 of them die on me in the space of a couple of months traveling around India so I was interested to see if you guys had heard of any alternatives?
dukeoftarzana said:
I'd recommend reviewing the Anker 3200mAh note 3 battery. I decided to get a replacement for my 1.5+ year old stock battery and this was the one that was getting the best ratings for the least money. At first I was disappointed, as it didn't seem like there was much if any improvement over the old stock battery. However, after a few weeks I was noticing significant improvement. I decided to try consciously squeeze the longest life I could out of it during my 24 hour shift. I was shocked with the results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3326605&stc=1&d=1432330766
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3326606&stc=1&d=1432330766
I'm running 4.4.2, rooted, with various battery saving modules in xposed including greenify, wakelock terminator and some features in wanam. I haven't really done much else. I leave 4G, wifi, gps and bluetooth on all the time because I'm too lazy to switch them on/off, brightness is on auto, but I also have screen filter for night time. I have multiple adblockers in place, dunno if that has any effect. I changed most options to display black background if possible. I feel like I use my device fairly heavily. Tethered for a few hours, watched several hours of HD video, torrented a large file from a friend, dozens of texts, a terrible 20 minute phone call, my screen timeout is set at 5 minutes... so yeah. I'm quite impressed with this battery, would recommend to anyone looking to replace their old battery. It's not quite as good as the battery life when I first bought it but it was a virgin device back then with a whole lot less going on and I have a feeling it would stack up well with the official sammy battery.
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Don't suppose you mind telling me how you rooted it please?
Just got one. It's on xxugng1 4.4.2
Thanks
tigger69 said:
Don't suppose you mind telling me how you rooted it please?
Just got one. It's on xxugng1 4.4.2
Thanks
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I did it with towel root, but had some problems with a superuser app, I eventually got supersu to work but I don't remember exactly how, sorry. I'm on vvrucnc4.

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