Is this a joke?
http://goo.gl/jwt4
TV-Out Cable (Micro USB to HDMI)
Share your latest adventures by connecting your compatible SAMSUNG phone directly to your TV or home theater system to view photos, videos and slide shows with an entire room full of people. TV-Out Cable (Micro USB to HDMI)
Here's an article saying it works with Galaxy S ( http://goo.gl/wv40).
Cool.
But $50 is a bit steep.
Hope there will be third-party knockoffs.
For anyone wondering if this will work with the Vibrant & Captivate, here is the link to Samsungs FAQ for the captivate that recommends the HDMI cable. I did not check the Vibrant FAQ but I assume it recommends the same.
http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa...ID=307505&PROD_SUB_ID=0&PROD_ID=558&EMAIL_ID=
I was dissapointed when I saw that this phone did not have an HDMI out, but I guess I didn't look hard enough.
is micro usb and mini hdmi the same thing?
http://www.amazon.com/ChargerCity-E...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1280332085&sr=8-1
No micro usb and mini hdmi is not the same thing
Wow.. this is really possible?? seems like the quality will have to be cut way down though. Wont the miniusb be a bottleneck? I mean, if not, what was the point of ever putting hdmi ports on phones?
Ouch. I hope the cable is split with regular USB (or someone makes one that is) so that you can charge at the same time...
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Ouch. I hope the cable is split with regular USB (or someone makes one that is) so that you can charge at the same time...
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If you take a close look at the picture of the cable, you can see a micro usb port on the side of the cable with the hdmi connector, its labled with a power symbol.
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If you take a close look at the picture of the cable, you can see a micro usb port on the side of the cable with the hdmi connector, its labled with a power symbol.
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if you look closer its actually not a power symbol, its a headphone symbol, however it is likely just a micro usb headphone plug
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if you look closer its actually not a power symbol, its a headphone symbol, however it is likely just a micro usb headphone plug
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Ehh looks like a power symbol of sort to me.. albeit a non-standard one. Could be something else though. Definitely not headphones.
Probably a mini usb connector. Quite a few headsets floating around with that style end....
This is confusing.
Is there actually proof of someone using that USB -> HDMI cable? Of course, charging while outputting via USB is a concern.
Neat if true, I guess. Otherwise, I don't see why the desk dock wouldn't support something like that, if possible.
ok so I've seen a good amount of ppl talking about this cable.
Has anyone purchased one yet?
$50 to view items on my vibrant?
$100 blu ray burner + vibrant 720p recorder + $20 for blu ray discs.
pointless to me.
that better be some damn good porn I downloaded on my vibrant for that cable.
It is a power symbol you retard, how else are you supposed to keep your device alive when playing content over an already filled usb port, how about you think about it before you go calling other people out.
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It is a power symbol you retard, how else are you supposed to keep your device alive when playing content over an already filled usb port, how about you think about it before you go calling other people out.
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First off, no need for name calling, second I said it looks like a headphone symbol, not that its a headphone port, I also said the port is likely still a USB port... it would not be unheard of to have it as a USB headphone port because there are a lot of headphones that use USB and it would likely be used for both, but I have never seen a power symbol that looks like a half circle with 2 small circles on the ends of the lines
Settle down kids. Doesn't make sense it would be headphone connection....
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if you look closer its actually not a power symbol, its a headphone symbol, however it is likely just a micro usb headphone plug
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It's a semicircle with two prongs coming out of it. Obviously the symbol for a power plug...
just confirm
has anybody actually seen it work?
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I bought the official HTC adaptor for this and I can't get it to work.
I plugged power into it, used a brand new HDMI cable and nothing works at all.
The first time I plugged it in, an icon came on up top saying HDMI out but nothing showed on the TV screen.
Now, when i plug it in the phone starts charging but nothing else happens at all.
~John
There are a couple members with the MHL adapter. You might just have a faulty accessory because to my knowledge none of them have issues.
MHL adapters do not work on their own, you have to plug a micro USB cable into the side to power it.
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MHL adapters do not work on their own, you have to plug a micro USB cable into the side to power it.
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Yep, I'm using the HTC mhl adapter and it works, but a USB cable has to be plugged from the wall to the adapter.
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Yep, I'm using the HTC mhl adapter and it works, but a USB cable has to be plugged from the wall to the adapter.
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Which brand and where can I order it at
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Which brand and where can I order it at
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Here's the one I'm using.
http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-mhl-adapter.html
Probably find a cheaper one out there, but this one worked for me.
Just out of curiosity, what would be the purpose/need to hook HDMI up to your phone? (And no, I am not being snarky or a d*ck, just curious as to what it's used for...)
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Here's the one I'm using.
http://shop.htcpedia.com/htc-mhl-adapter.html
Probably find a cheaper one out there, but this one worked for me.
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That's the same one I have (and that's where I got it)
I have an AC power cord plugged into it and it charges the phone just fine but it only recognized the HDMI cable once and now it does nothing but charge the phone.
~John
You can plug the phone into an HDTV and show pictures or play movies at their full resolution on the screen. This phone can probably play HD video better than my (aging) laptop can.
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That's the same one I have (and that's where I got it)
I have an AC power cord plugged into it and it charges the phone just fine but it only recognized the HDMI cable once and now it does nothing but charge the phone.
~John
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Not sure if you tried disconnecting all of the cables and reconnecting them, but I'd give that a shot if you haven't already. A battery pull may not hurt either. Could also be a bad adapter or phone. Saw a few similar issues in the accessories section.
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That's the same one I have (and that's where I got it)
I have an AC power cord plugged into it and it charges the phone just fine but it only recognized the HDMI cable once and now it does nothing but charge the phone.
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Did you choose the output in whatever application you are playing the source from? In the standard sense player, for example, there is a button that says output right next to the beats logo. I have heard that the option "TV" appears there when you are connected via HDMI or wifi to a televison.
For me, as soon as I plug in the adapter to the phone an hdmi icon appears in the notification section and the display shows up on the tv.
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For me, as soon as I plug in the adapter to the phone an hdmi icon appears in the notification section and the display shows up on the tv.
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Yea, mine did that the very first time I plugged it in but it hasn't done it since.
The adaptor has to be defective, I have read a good percentage of them do not work correctly.
~John
I'm using the cheapest one Amazon sells and it works great. I remember seeing someone else had a defective phone. You may be in the same boat. I'd try another adapter and if that doesn't work I would return the phone(exchange)
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This is somewhat counter-intuitive, but the Samsung MHL adapter works extremely well. Oddly enough it works better on the Rezound than it does on the Infuse or Epic Touch 4G.
All that to say, yeah, you probably have a bad adapter.
Here's an MHL adapter people posted about using successfully in the accessories forum:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=2
I don't know how much yours was but I know monoprice has great prices on their stuff.
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Did you choose the output in whatever application you are playing the source from? In the standard sense player, for example, there is a button that says output right next to the beats logo. I have heard that the option "TV" appears there when you are connected via HDMI or wifi to a televison.
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this is NOT true. it displays everything shown on the screen on the tv if you do this it will make no difference.
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Here's an MHL adapter people posted about using successfully in the accessories forum:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=2
I don't know how much yours was but I know monoprice has great prices on their stuff.
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I am also using the one from monoprice. It works like a champ no problems and is only $15. Highly recommend it!
Mine was getting the HDMI logo at the top but no output I was useing the USB OWM rezound wall plug that came with he phone. Well I used a better one i had here and now HDMI out works great... It just will not work with the HTC rezound wall plug power.. even works off of my PC's usb power just not the OEM one.
hey.
i have sailed the internetz looking for answers for this. but i thought ild ask what everyone else thought.
would atrix lapdock work with sg2? (with mods off course) like changing the connectors about. and using a mhl to hdmi cable?
i was looking at the connectors and it is a micro hdmi and a micro usb if im not wrong..
whats everyones thoughts to this???
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hey.
i have sailed the internetz looking for answers for this. but i thought ild ask what everyone else thought.
would atrix lapdock work with sg2? (with mods off course) like changing the connectors about. and using a mhl to hdmi cable?
i was looking at the connectors and it is a micro hdmi and a micro usb if im not wrong..
whats everyones thoughts to this???
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My thoughts; not sure if serious...
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My thoughts; not sure if serious...
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what do you mean by that? its a valid question.
i know for sure you can connect your sg2 to the hdmi to display. but its the trackpad and keyboard im wondering about the most?
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what do you mean by that? its a valid question.
i know for sure you can connect your sg2 to the hdmi to display. but its the trackpad and keyboard im wondering about the most?
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NO.
Atrix has two different output ports. Micro USB for charging and data transfer, and micro-HDMI for TV-out. The laptop dock specific (I stress specific) for the Atrix uses BOTH of these ports in conjuction.
Galaxy S2 has ONE output port, a micro USB port that doubles for charging/data transfer, and connection to the optional MHL adapter accessory.
In NO WAY would you be able to MacGyver the Galaxy S2 to use the Atrix laptop dock.
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NO.
Atrix has two different output ports. Micro USB for charging and data transfer, and micro-HDMI for TV-out. The laptop dock specific (I stress specific) for the Atrix uses BOTH of these ports in conjuction.
Galaxy S2 has ONE output port, a micro USB port that doubles for charging/data transfer, and connection to the optional MHL adapter accessory.
In NO WAY would you be able to MacGyver the Galaxy S2 to use the Atrix laptop dock.
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alright. well thanks for the answer. guess il have to look for another idea. possibly using portable hd screen and a bluetooth mouse and keyboard.
cheers anyway.
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NO.
Atrix has two different output ports. Micro USB for charging and data transfer, and micro-HDMI for TV-out. The laptop dock specific (I stress specific) for the Atrix uses BOTH of these ports in conjuction.
Galaxy S2 has ONE output port, a micro USB port that doubles for charging/data transfer, and connection to the optional MHL adapter accessory.
In NO WAY would you be able to MacGyver the Galaxy S2 to use the Atrix laptop dock.
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alright. well thanks for the answer. guess il have to look for another idea. possibly using portable hd screen and a bluetooth mouse and keyboard.
cheers anyway.
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You know... it just might work. The atrix lapdock does feed 5v power up the usb port which you could adapt from micro usb to whichever varient you need on your MHL cable. This would provide the power necessary to drive the hdmi circuitry that you had feeding into the micro hdmi input of the lapdock. Obviously you wouldnt have a true 'dock' but it sounds like you understand that. As long as your phone detected the mouse and keyboard as input devices it should work. Not sure how that operates with an MHL cable. It might require USB OTG, and im not sure if that is available over the USB connectivity provided by MHL. You could try with a standard usb keyboard If that works, then the lapdocks should too.
I know for certain that you can use the lapdock as the screen by just connecting the video out of the MHL adapter to the lapdock, and a usb power only cable (for the MHL adapter) to the lapdocks normal USB charge ports.
There is a thread called Lapdock HDMI that has more details!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376679
As for the person saying it is or was impossible... you so sure now?
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You know... it just might work. The atrix lapdock does feed 5v power up the usb port which you could adapt from micro usb to whichever varient you need on your MHL cable. This would provide the power necessary to drive the hdmi circuitry that you had feeding into the micro hdmi input of the lapdock. Obviously you wouldnt have a true 'dock' but it sounds like you understand that. As long as your phone detected the mouse and keyboard as input devices it should work. Not sure how that operates with an MHL cable. It might require USB OTG, and im not sure if that is available over the USB connectivity provided by MHL. You could try with a standard usb keyboard If that works, then the lapdocks should too.
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ive seen some mhl cables online which have a micro usb port on the side also. so you can plug in the micro hdmi and usb at the same time .. not as the other guy said. anyway im going to order the dock to see what mods i can get done. if anything promising il repost.
phire420 said:
You know... it just might work. The atrix lapdock does feed 5v power up the usb port which you could adapt from micro usb to whichever varient you need on your MHL cable. This would provide the power necessary to drive the hdmi circuitry that you had feeding into the micro hdmi input of the lapdock. Obviously you wouldnt have a true 'dock' but it sounds like you understand that. As long as your phone detected the mouse and keyboard as input devices it should work. Not sure how that operates with an MHL cable. It might require USB OTG, and im not sure if that is available over the USB connectivity provided by MHL. You could try with a standard usb keyboard If that works, then the lapdocks should too.
I know for certain that you can use the lapdock as the screen by just connecting the video out of the MHL adapter to the lapdock, and a usb power only cable (for the MHL adapter) to the lapdocks normal USB charge ports.
There is a thread called Lapdock HDMI that has more details!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376679
As for the person saying it is or was impossible... you so sure now?
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That thread is from the Atrix forum. What bearing does that have on the argument on getting this working on an S2??
Have you even looked at the connections involved here?
The Atrix's micro USB and micro HDMI port are side by side, and the dock plugs into both of them.
The MHL cable plugs into the ONLY port on the S2.
So I'm certainly not an expert on the inner workings of MHL, USB, and HDMI, but from what I can gather, you would have to splice an MHL cable to separate out the USB leads from the HDMI leads, then try to run the HDMI leads into a micro HDMI female port, and run the USB leads to a female micro USB port. I don't even know if that would work with MHL in the equation. I'm fairly certain the phone detects what is plugged in and decides how to use the port, which shoots this down idea down altogether... unless more hacking is involved into the OS. Which is way above my head, and I'm not fool enough to try.
See this thread, which is admittedly for the Galaxy Nexus, but is WAY more relevant than the Atrix thread you linked, as the GNex is also manufactured by Samsung, and also uses MHL technology.
Timoxa said:
ive seen some mhl cables online which have a micro usb port on the side also. so you can plug in the micro hdmi and usb at the same time .. not as the other guy said. anyway im going to order the dock to see what mods i can get done. if anything promising il repost.
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No - the micro USB port on the side of the MHL adapter is for power. If the HDMI port you plug into is NOT MHL compliant (and not many are, yet), you need to plug an AC adapter in to power the phone while HDMI is in use.
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That thread is from the Atrix forum. What bearing does that have on the argument on getting this working on an S2??
Have you even looked at the connections involved here?
The Atrix's micro USB and micro HDMI port are side by side, and the dock plugs into both of them.
The MHL cable plugs into the ONLY port on the S2.
So I'm certainly not an expert on the inner workings of MHL, USB, and HDMI, but from what I can gather, you would have to splice an MHL cable to separate out the USB leads from the HDMI leads, then try to run the HDMI leads into a micro HDMI female port, and run the USB leads to a female micro USB port. I don't even know if that would work with MHL in the equation. I'm fairly certain the phone detects what is plugged in and decides how to use the port, which shoots this down idea down altogether... unless more hacking is involved into the OS. Which is way above my head, and I'm not fool enough to try.
See this thread, which is admittedly for the Galaxy Nexus, but is WAY more relevant than the Atrix thread you linked, as the GNex is also manufactured by Samsung, and also uses MHL technology.
No - the micro USB port on the side of the MHL adapter is for power. If the HDMI port you plug into is NOT MHL compliant (and not many are, yet), you need to plug an AC adapter in to power the phone while HDMI is in use.
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well. theres allot of different mhl cables. even if none of them support it. splitting the usb data from the other cables on the mhl should be easy. but like i said il order one to play with. im pretty sure even if i cant do anything with the sg2 il find another use for it. would be great for a project. but many thanks for your input. sure has shed some light in the dark.
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well. theres allot of different mhl cables. even if none of them support it. splitting the usb data from the other cables on the mhl should be easy. but like i said il order one to play with. im pretty sure even if i cant do anything with the sg2 il find another use for it. would be great for a project. but many thanks for your input. sure has shed some light in the dark.
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Sure, there are a lot of MHL cables, but they are all essentially third party versions of the OEM Samsung MHL cable. (or whatever phone manufacturer you have that uses MHL - HTC, whatever)
I have high doubts ANY MHL cable will support it, since as I said, the phone will detect what type of connection is attached to decide how to send/receive signals from the port - if it sees the MHL adapter, it will do charge/HDMI; if it sees a regular USB cable, it will do charge/data transfer/OTG; if it sees an AC adapter, it does strictly charging. Notice how it can tell the difference when you have it plugged into your computer as opposed to when you have it plugged into the wall?
But if you want to go for it, good luck.
EDIT: yet another piece of info shooting this idea down.
Here's the video that he talks about in that post. Info specific on why this DOESN'T work is at about 7:25.
ctomgee said:
Sure, there are a lot of MHL cables, but they are all essentially third party versions of the OEM Samsung MHL cable. (or whatever phone manufacturer you have that uses MHL - HTC, whatever)
I have high doubts ANY MHL cable will support it, since as I said, the phone will detect what type of connection is attached to decide how to send/receive signals from the port - if it sees the MHL adapter, it will do charge/HDMI; if it sees a regular USB cable, it will do charge/data transfer/OTG; if it sees an AC adapter, it does strictly charging. Notice how it can tell the difference when you have it plugged into your computer as opposed to when you have it plugged into the wall?
But if you want to go for it, good luck.
EDIT: yet another piece of info shooting this idea down.
Here's the video that he talks about in that post.
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i pretty much thought the usb and hdmi wouldnt work from the beginning, il have to look into modding the dock to allow bluetooth. ive have just looked at the specifications of a mhl even though they can in theory support usb and hdmi at the same time. the sg2 wont. and i cant see any software mod that would allow this. il see what sort of bluetooth mods are available. maybe incorporate stuff i have done in the past. but the dock is too good to pass by.
i think we can close this thread as its been answered.
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i pretty much thought the usb and hdmi wouldnt work from the beginning, il have to look into modding the dock to allow bluetooth. ive have just looked at the specifications of a mhl even though they can in theory support usb and hdmi at the same time. the sg2 wont. and i cant see any software mod that would allow this. il see what sort of bluetooth mods are available. maybe incorporate stuff i have done in the past. but the dock is too good to pass by.
i think we can close this thread as its been answered.
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Not to nitpick, but it's MHL 1.0 that won't support it. The GS2 just uses MHL. Who knows if there's a possibility to update it to whatever MHL 2.0 is, whenever it comes out.
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That thread is from the Atrix forum. What bearing does that have on the argument on getting this working on an S2??
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Noone is 'arguing', instead I am trying to be productive and help. Forgive me opening the door to actually trying it and thinking it through instead of just saying 'THERE IS NO WAY ITS POSSIBLE, OMG ATRIX FORUM'. you do know where you are.. right?
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Have you even looked at the connections involved here? The Atrix's micro USB and micro HDMI port are side by side, and the dock plugs into both of them. The MHL cable plugs into the ONLY port on the S2.
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yes, of course. you couldn't tell by my reply?
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So I'm certainly not an expert on the inner workings of MHL, USB, and HDMI, but from what I can gather, you would have to splice an MHL cable to separate out the USB leads from the HDMI leads, then try to run the HDMI leads into a micro HDMI female port, and run the USB leads to a female micro USB port. I don't even know if that would work with MHL in the equation.
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Right, which is why i even posted in the first place. First you claimed to know, now you dont know, not very helpful. and yes, i think its understood there would be cables and a potential need for splicing, as outlined in the other lapdock thread.
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See this thread, which is admittedly for the Galaxy Nexus, but is WAY more relevant than the Atrix thread you linked, as the GNex is also manufactured by Samsung, and also uses MHL technology.
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actually the other thread is perfectly relevant, if you read it, you would understand the point of the thread is a howto on interfacing the lapdock with devices OTHER than the atrix, how could it be more relevant?
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Noone is 'arguing'
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Seriously? You're arguing that no one is arguing? By arguing?
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instead I am trying to be productive and help. Forgive me opening the door to actually trying it and thinking it through instead of just saying 'THERE IS NO WAY ITS POSSIBLE, OMG ATRIX FORUM'. you do know where you are.. right?
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Yes, I do. In the I9100 forums. Which is based on completely different hardware and architecture than the Motorola Atrix.
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Have you even looked at the connections involved here? The Atrix's micro USB and micro HDMI port are side by side, and the dock plugs into both of them. The MHL cable plugs into the ONLY port on the S2.
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yes, of course. you couldn't tell by my reply?
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Clearly not, since you apparently understand less about how MHL works than I do.
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So I'm certainly not an expert on the inner workings of MHL, USB, and HDMI, but from what I can gather, you would have to splice an MHL cable to separate out the USB leads from the HDMI leads, then try to run the HDMI leads into a micro HDMI female port, and run the USB leads to a female micro USB port. I don't even know if that would work with MHL in the equation.
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Right, which is why i even posted in the first place. First you claimed to know, now you dont know, not very helpful. and yes, i think its understood there would be cables and a potential need for splicing, as outlined in the other lapdock thread.
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Actually, I said I'm not an expert. Not that I didn't know. That's two different things. I notice you also conveniently left off the part of my quote after the part that said "I don't even know if that would work with MHL in the equation" which read:
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I'm fairly certain the phone detects what is plugged in and decides how to use the port, which shoots this down idea down altogether... unless more hacking is involved into the OS. Which is way above my head, and I'm not fool enough to try.
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phire420 said:
actually the other thread is perfectly relevant, if you read it, you would understand the point of the thread is a howto on interfacing the lapdock with devices OTHER than the atrix, how could it be more relevant?
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Sure, relevant. But not, at the same time. Look at post 10 of that thread. It says "The lapdock keyboard and touchpad work just like a normal USB keyboard and mouse."
Now, clearly I read the thread you linked. Did YOU read anything I linked, or watch the video featuring a spokesman from the frigging MHL consortium??? How he said HDMI out and USB will NOT work at the same time on any phone that utilizes MHL, not just the Galaxy S2? And goes on to explain why?
You started this fight with:
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As for the person saying it is or was impossible... you so sure now?
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in post 6. Get off your frigging high-and-mighty-horse, and crawl back under your bridge.
Timoxa said:
i pretty much thought the usb and hdmi wouldnt work from the beginning
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Video will work, but as ctomgee stated and linked, usb wont work at the same time
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ill have to look into modding the dock to allow bluetooth.
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good luck m8 id love to see if you can pull this off!
you can always solder in a usb-Bluetooth tx so that the keypad and keyboard will work via bluetooth and hdmi via MHL. thats the only way
rmyc said:
you can always solder in a usb-Bluetooth tx so that the keypad and keyboard will work via bluetooth and hdmi via MHL. thats the only way
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sounds like it's a possible solution, i'm trying to find a way to use the lapdock with my galaxy s3. any idea where we can get a usb-bluetooth tx? pair this setup with allshare dongle for wireless transmission to hdmi, we'll hv a total wireless solution to connect any phone to the lapdock?!
Hi All,
I ended up purchasing the Rezond based on the previous feedback, but I'm still in the test-drive phase. I'm really enjoying the phone so far and so far I'm thinking "keep". The included headphones are really great also compared to my previous headphones! I'll be waiting at least another week before I decide to keep the phone and decide to put a better ROM on the phone.
Anyway, what's the deal with the charge cable? Standard Micro-USB fits fine, but what's up with the funky cable that came with the device? Will this cause any problems using a longer standard cable or will it cause the phone to charge slower? Does this cable need to be used for proper connection to a PC?
Custom cables always make me leery.
Sorry if this has been asked, searching for custom usb, charge cable, custom cable did not return an results.
Its actually not a custom cable. It is a MHL adapter. Lots of talk about it in the Accessories forum.
Basically one port for charging and HDMI out instead of two separate ports.
You can charge fine with a regular micro usb cable, I don't think it's slower but I've never timed it.
If you want to get more like the ones that came with the phone you can get the HTC Flyer cables in white here:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/htc-flyer-data-cable-dc-t500-extmicro-usb-12pin-white-209995/
I bought two of them since I like the secure feeling of the snap in.
I've never tried using a regular micro usb for data and don't have one within arm's reach and I'm really super comfy right now so I'm not going to get up but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
In the accessories forum try searching "mhl cable" and I think you'll come up with two threads about it if you want further info.
I am using a blackberry (micro USB) cable at work, and the OEM cable at home, I see no different in charge time or PC connectivity between the 2 cable.
I also use a blackberry AC adapter to charge the rezound when I am in a pinch.
HTH.
Thanks.
I figured any standard micro-usb cable will work. A MHL cable makes sense though, I've just never actually seen one and I'm not familiar with the form factor.
I'll be looking into this, thank you again.
"MHL" A Lot More Solid
The MHL cable feels a lot more solid than a micro USB. I have a couple micro usb that have gotten loose, and now just fall out of the phone if turned over, or if I hit a bump in the car. Thanks for finding a source to buy more of the MHL cables.
Also here slightly less expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Flyer-Data-Sync-Cable/dp/B004VF616C/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics
krelvinaz said:
Also here slightly less expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Flyer-Data-Sync-Cable/dp/B004VF616C/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics
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How long are those cables? Doesn't say on the page; unless I'm blind.
There is no such thing as an "MHL cable".
The format of the port and cable that come with the Rezound is called "EXTMicro USB".
"MHL" refers to a standard for connecting small electronics to HDTVs. It works with a regular Micro USB cable. Last time I checked (a couple of weeks ago) there are no MHL adapters that utilize EXTMicro USB connectors. Most of the ones that I've found use a regular Micro USB connector.
At this time, it's unclear exactly what the extra 7 pins in the connector in this phone are for. Other HTC phones have used them for analog audio and video output, but this doesn't appear to be supported by the rezound.
If you look at your rezound, you will see it only has the 5 pins. It does utilize the ExtMicro USB plug end/shape. If it truly had the ExtMico USB then while using the mhl adapter it could charge your phone via A/C while streaming. But it can't because the data pins are being used/ there are only 5 pins.
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That's an excellent point about charging while using an MHL adapter. One could still force fast charging through software, such as what's available in Incredikernel/control, though.
On my rezound, I most definitely have contacts in the extra spots. The cable my phone came with, however, doesn't have any pins for them to contact.
Prefader said:
That's an excellent point about charging while using an MHL adapter. One could still force fast charging through software, such as what's available in Incredikernel/control, though.
On my rezound, I most definitely have contacts in the extra spots. The cable my phone came with, however, doesn't have any pins for them to contact.
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You are right the phone has it, the does not cable. That is my mistake. I knew one of them didn't just was too lazy to check.
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I have a MHL Adapter and I get video just fine. Now I want to be able to sit on my couch while i use the adapter. Seems to me the simplest way would be to use a 15-20 foot Micro USB Male - Micro USB Female extension cable.
Does anyone have any experience with such a setup? Do you have a recommendation for such a cable?
TIA!!
Why micro USB? You can get a HDMI cable as long as you might want (Monoprice is particularly good). If it's not enough you can carry a HDMI signal over a single or (simpler to find) two CAT5 cables w/ RJ45 jacks for hundreds of feet.
I guess the thought was that if I have the Micro USB Extension, then it's one thin lightweight wire that has to travel across the floor.
If I did HDMI, I'd still have to be near power whereas with Micro USB, I could set the power adapter, and HDMI, and MHL Adapter all together and then have a thin and lightweight wire traveling across the floor.
But if it's not possible, (micro USB limitiation??) then HDMI it would have to be.
bean1975 said:
Why micro USB? You can get a HDMI cable as long as you might want (Monoprice is particularly good). If it's not enough you can carry a HDMI signal over a single or (simpler to find) two CAT5 cables w/ RJ45 jacks for hundreds of feet.
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If the micro USB works it would be much cheaper than a comparable length hdmi cord.
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I would test http://www.amazon.com/Extender-over-CAT5E-CAT6-connection/dp/B003L14ZTC this. It's hard to get cheaper than cat5e.
Just bought 10 feet on amazon! Lovely!
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I wanted to do exactly this - extend the cable but at the micro-USB end to avoid having the Micro-usb power supply line and the bulky MHL adaptor all where the phone is - much cleaner to just have a thin cable coming out of the phone and headed towards the TV.
I did get hold of a micro-USB extension cable (2m/6ft) but unfortunately it does not work. Directly plugging the phone into the MHL adaptor works perfectly, as soon as I insert the micro-USB extension it doesn't work. I need to have a closer look to check the pins are populated etc, but not sure why this would be an issue - don't think it can be signal strength and if all the pins are populated I don't see why the adaptor would care.????
Any thoughts?
Micro B USB extension not working
I, too have been trying to figure out why an extension cable doesn't work the way you think it might. Today, I tried cutting my 6 foot cable, first making sure I had the right power leads working. Then I went through all the possible combinations of connections to see if one would work. None do. I'm at a complete loss on this wondering what I should try next.
Thanks for info....similarly baffled but at least you have ruled out something!
Like the other guy said, get your x for of hdmi cable, then just plug your AC charger in where you are. Mhl might use additional connectors/pins/whatever vs micro USB. Or you can go totally wireless and use a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard.
Also I remember I had a charging issue with an extension. Sometimes one product works better than others. I can't charge my phone with my 20 dollar AC charger from best buy since the ICS leak. It's weird. Hdmi cables are pretty uniform, I would just extend that.
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Yes, that works, always has, but that's not the point. Would rather have just one long cable connected to the phone in front of the TV rather than three cables, the device and the phone in a kludge setup.
A partial answer
This allows connecting 6 feet away with a thin, flexible single cable..Also cheap, but shipping takes 15 days.
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Gavdroid said:
I did get hold of a micro-USB extension cable (2m/6ft) but unfortunately it does not work. Directly plugging the phone into the MHL adaptor works perfectly, as soon as I insert the micro-USB extension it doesn't work. I need to have a closer look to check the pins are populated etc, but not sure why this would be an issue - don't think it can be signal strength and if all the pins are populated I don't see why the adaptor would care.????
Any thoughts?
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I took apart the two cables and the USB has four wires while the MHL cable has ten.
are the mhl wires easily extendable themselves by splicing? I'm thinking strip out a few usb cables and use the wires? Or just go purchase some extremely thin gauge wire (22 gauge) and make it yourself?
Micro B USB extension not working
The Micro B USB connector only has 5 connections, so there is no way you can connect 10 from the MHL cable to it, so something else is going on.
pinoutsguide.com/PortableDevices/micro_usb_pinout.shtml
amblix said:
are the mhl wires easily extendable themselves by splicing? I'm thinking strip out a few usb cables and use the wires? Or just go purchase some extremely thin gauge wire (22 gauge) and make it yourself?
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I bought splices and thought about extending the cable. It's possible.
galaxy s3
I did wanted to do the same but the extension cable didn't work. I looked at the connecting points and felt that the micro usb from Mel adaptor is to bit longer than usual so I thought that may be the reason and I shorten it resulting damaging my Mel adaptor itself. Now I am going for allshare cast wireless hub. So everyone please don't try to cut the micro usb pin from your adaptor or u will better decide to for my option to for complete flexibility.
I want to do this EXACT same thing but slightly more extreme:
I want an MHL adapter with 10-25 feet of micro USB cable on the end so I can use it from anywhere in my living room.
Is there any such cable/adapter?
Why do all MHL adapters come with only a 5 inch cable??? It is maddening!
*bump* I am looking for this too.. but I have a reason slightly different.. I have an AppRadio in my car that I connect my phone to. The MHL cable end is rather bulky and does not fit into the opening of my otterbox that is on my phone... most microUSB wires fit into the opening just fine.. Taking my phone out of the case every time I am in the car is rather ridiculous so I bought the micro USB extension (bought a 6" one).. didn;t even register except to charge... So, and ideas would be greatly appreciated..
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*bump* I am looking for this too.. but I have a reason slightly different.. I have an AppRadio in my car that I connect my phone to. The MHL cable end is rather bulky and does not fit into the opening of my otterbox that is on my phone... most microUSB wires fit into the opening just fine.. Taking my phone out of the case every time I am in the car is rather ridiculous so I bought the micro USB extension (bought a 6" one).. didn;t even register except to charge... So, and ideas would be greatly appreciated..
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Get a different MHL adapter. I use an adapter close to the one 7 posts up by hedaleth with my kenwood system in my truck.
Anyone know about a splitter that will take the 30-pin input and let you use one side for the 30-pin power adapter and the other side for 30-pin accessory like USB OTG pigtail?
I'm in the same boat,
Search and search but nothing,
You get USB to 2 30-pin but nothing for 30-pin to 2 30-pin adapters
The only option you have is to buy a Galaxy Tab break out board from Kinetica and solder your own cables to it..
What do you want to use at same time?
It would be nice to run external power while having an accessory plugged in such as the SD or USB drive or keyboard. I have 2 USB keyboards that have the pointing device built into it.
look in m y post in the make your own cables thread.
i added power to the odks circuit board and can watch movies via hdd at same time as charging.
easier way would be use the breaK out board though..
I have the connector parts, just I have to know the pin assignments...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155065&page=11
Look at this thread..
Try my post first one before this page..
It explains it..
pin 7 is the posative 5v @2amps...
pin 30 is the earth..
(this is how i run it in car connected to 2 amps 5v source)
works well and if start close to 100 percent battery power leave it plugged in it doesnt drop anything even after watching 4 movies in a row still is 100 percent.
eventually i disconnected it to let the battery drop down alittle as not sure if good to keep it at full charge?
Maybe the best way would be try to follow my dock mod?
that way you can just use the 30 pin usb adapter and add a powered hub.
havent given an update on "line out" output as my usb adapter is covering it up
the outlet socket.might consider opening it up again and finding out if works then relocate the 3.5 stereo socket outlet.maybe could just solder some wires to it inside and add a new output some where else more accessable..
This is a bit of an old thread, but thought people might like to know that I have found a solution! DealExtreme has a splitter that has 2 OTG connectors and a charging connector....
3-in-1 30 Pin Male to USB Female OTG Hub Cable for Samsung Galaxy Tab - Black + White
http://dx.com/p/3-in-1-30-pin-male-...ble-for-samsung-galaxy-tab-black-white-153246
Here is the link to the cable post .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155065&highlight=cables
ToastyZ71 said:
This is a bit of an old thread, but thought people might like to know that I have found a solution! DealExtreme has a splitter that has 2 OTG connectors and a charging connector....
3-in-1 30 Pin Male to USB Female OTG Hub Cable for Samsung Galaxy Tab - Black + White
http://dx.com/p/3-in-1-30-pin-male-...ble-for-samsung-galaxy-tab-black-white-153246
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Havent seen that cable before...anybody tried it?
Just curious IF and HOW it works...
I modded my dock to accept charge and host at same time but only triggers charge when hdd is connected whilst power applied.
I've got one from ebay. But its very poor quality. Its functionality is OK, but you cannot charge the Tab. External power is used to power the USB devices. It switches between internal Tab 5V and external 5V when applied. It ok with USB hdd that needs power.
o.k. thanks..
Cant help but wonder about the possibility of using it as charging and host at same time by using different resistor than 20k.not sure if you guys seen the thread about host and charging on galaxy s3 (hw mod) but they discovered a different resistance value 40.2k that could make the power part of the usb travel in both directions at the same time allowing this to happen...
im thinking the same could maybe happen for our 7.7 tab.
rEVOLVE said:
Anyone know about a splitter that will take the 30-pin input and let you use one side for the 30-pin power adapter and the other side for 30-pin accessory like USB OTG pigtail?
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Chdck this out. Haven't tried yet, but this ought to work.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130707719450
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Manipur said:
Chdck this out. Haven't tried yet, but this ought to work.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130707719450
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Ordered. Will report back once i get it.
ToastyZ71 said:
This is a bit of an old thread, but thought people might like to know that I have found a solution! DealExtreme has a splitter that has 2 OTG connectors and a charging connector....
3-in-1 30 Pin Male to USB Female OTG Hub Cable for Samsung Galaxy Tab - Black + White
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Ordered this one few days ago but unfortunately it's not in stock and they don't know when they will have it back in stock so, are there some other options?
rEVOLVE said:
Ordered. Will report back once i get it.
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Hey, did you get it? How is it?