Hi Guys
Now that we have root access to our X10 mini/mini pro, I hope we can interessest some developers to make us a custom ROM.
So I hope, with this Thread we can draw the attention of some DEV's
:-D Let's hope and pray
dabulcke said:
So I hope, with this Thread we can draw the attention of some DEV's
:-D Let's hope and pray
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+1 hope we'll be heard
Why to work on 2.1 when 2.2 is available. Look forward to 2.2 Rom
Same progress must be done like on X10. So please be patient. First i (or somebody else who is faster) must fix X10flash, so that we are able to flash everytime to a desired version of rom.
then SPL must be hacked. We can try to port softspl from goroh. but first other progress must be made.
Regards
Bin4ry
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Why to work on 2.1 when 2.2 is available. Look forward to 2.2 Rom
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Good point there had to think of that myself off course.
Bin4ry said:
Same progress must be done like on X10. So please be patient. First i (or somebody else who is faster) must fix X10flash, so that we are able to flash everytime to a desired version of rom.
then SPL must be hacked. We can try to port softspl from goroh. but first other progress must be made.
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Bin4ry
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Hi Binary, thanks for the information. As I'm a noob in this, I'm trying to follow the complete progress. So I don't know how the progress will be and what steps need to be taken before you developers can make ROM's. But now I have an idea and i will be happy to follow the progress.
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dabulcke
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So I don't know how the progress will be and what steps need to be taken before you developers can make ROM's.
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They need a tool that can flash the ROM into the device without bricking it, without that tool creating ROMs is first of all useless and secondly hard to test.
Good thinking. And it seems Bin4ry is advance and has already thought of creating ROMs at the back of his mind. And true let us go step by step.
Bin4ry, could you through some light why its hard to flash roms?
I think the hardware for rom is same between x10 and x10 mini. If you could share some knowledge on what blocks the custom flashing could help many of us to have broader understanding.
Is the device drivers or is it the software protections that keeps away from overwriting the ROMS?
Some insights required.
As far as C/C++ goes, even i can chimp in some hands, provided i know what to do, how to do and where to start from.
THIS might be of help, Viny - at least that's where I'm going to start and it seems it's a must to start there in order to understand how the AndroidOS works, and info about ROMs.
Thanks, I have already started reading http://pdk.android.com/
A Custom Wildfire ROM for the X10 Mini/X10 Mini Pro would be awesome..
A 2.2 would also be awesome.
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..::Viny::.. said:
Bin4ry, could you through some light why its hard to flash roms?
I think the hardware for rom is same between x10 and x10 mini. If you could share some knowledge on what blocks the custom flashing could help many of us to have broader understanding.
Is the device drivers or is it the software protections that keeps away from overwriting the ROMS?
Some insights required.
As far as C/C++ goes, even i can chimp in some hands, provided i know what to do, how to do and where to start from.
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Hardware is completely different, cpus arent the same, lcd, storage... whats more or less shared is the s1 bootloader which is for the entire s1 platform from sony ericsson. Though bootloaders rent the same because theyre compiled for each cpu.. thats whats preventing us from flashing on both phones. I hope when a real fix is found for one of them we will have it easier to port to the rest of the platform. Until that well have to stick to jumping from initial se kernel to boot custom roms. For that, a kexec module for these kernels must be built (gorohkun's spl for x10 wont work without a lot of modifications....)
Mitchio said:
A Custom Wildfire ROM for the X10 Mini/X10 Mini Pro would be awesome..
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The RAM on the x10 mini would be way to little to run a Sense ROM smoothly..
TheDeadCpu said:
The RAM on the x10 mini would be way to little to run a Sense ROM smoothly..
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Complete nonsense ..
Lots of HTC devices have worse specs and run Sense smoothly.
dabulcke said:
Hi Guys
Now that we have root access to our X10 mini/mini pro, I hope we can interessest some developers to make us a custom ROM.
So I hope, with this Thread we can draw the attention of some DEV's
:-D Let's hope and pray
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+1 I would give my left nut for a custom ROM
The RAM on the x10 mini would be way to little to run a Sense ROM smoothly..
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You are wrong.
t99 said:
You are wrong.
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It would probably work , but X10 has 128MB while Wildfire has 384MB so he has a point.
The RAM/NAND chip on the x10 mini is a Samsung K524G2GACB-A050 chip, with a theoretical 4gb NAND memory and 2gb SDRAM ( supposedly this translates to 512mb ROM and 256mb RAM
The above findings are based on elementary research. If somebody with better technological insight wants to to correct this, please feel free to do so.
http://www.phonewreck.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/X10PCB1.jpg
Interestingly, the MSM7227 Qualcamm processor has an FPU so in theory it's more than capable of running FROYO with flash 10.1 support, but whether SE and Adobe decide to give us this privelege is another thing altogether. I guess it remains up to the community to build their own ROM if they don't.
(and yes I know it'll never happen because flash 10.1 is built around the ARMV7 architecture, but at least SE could give us flash lite 4)
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+1 I would give my left nut for a custom ROM
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+1 from my end too and might I proffer my right one for the cause.
P.S.: I doubt the Dev's are interested in . . . ahem "nuts", the offer stands though
Related
I tested TheWolf ROM on my X10 Mini.
This ROM is based on XRecovery for X10 Mini Pro
All Of This ROM runs on my X10 Mini except the keyboard.
Is it possible to convert U10i Version in E10i ?
(Sorry for my bad english)
Klemanbx said:
I tested TheWolf ROM on my X10 Mini.
This ROM is based on XRecovery for X10 Mini Pro
All Of This ROM runs on my X10 Mini except the keyboard.
Is it possible to convert U10i Version in E10i ?
(Sorry for my bad english)
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Can use for x10 mini?where to download..please share
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here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9950861#post9950861
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here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9950861#post9950861
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Fully work for E10i?
Sent from my E10i
its just new framework and few other apps. will be better if somebody ports 2.2
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Fully work for E10i?
Sent from my E10i
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Be Careful ! Backup your system before because in this ROM, keyboard is disabled.
This is not a new ROM!
This is just a basic tuning.
exchange framework, and save the xrecovery
Do not use this "rom"
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Be Careful ! Backup your system before because in this ROM, keyboard is disabled.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880794
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880414
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880432
my friends look at these threads, this rom is not good and in all fairness is not a rom at all. it is a backup of someones stock 2.1 (take a look in your settings>about phone it says is eclair 2.1 meaning it is not built by the "dev" merely he has put apps on it and made a backup for you to restore)
not to mention that most of the apps on the rom are PIRATED or "warez" if you will. this guys threads at mini pro have been all closed and even one of my threads has been shut because although i made it to warn people of the "rom" people started to talk about using the applanet app on this rom to download illegal apk's MOST OF WHICH ARE MADE BY GUYS THAT USE XDA regularly Support devs and do not use this rom please i will be reporting this thread too if it links to the guys rom and this build has warez also
Lasy said:
This is not a new ROM!
This is just a basic tuning.
exchange framework, and save the xrecovery
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like i said ^^^ it is rubbish and full of illegal software that COULD in theory get anyone who installs it in trouble legally
meh
Guys! You are rude. Offcourse is the initial stock rom tunned. So what. Is his work, like i sayd in other post ( actualy lol it wass my ideea 3 days ago in x10 mini threads), it a beggining, no? until we will have a hacked boot , is better than nothing!!!! So we can tank s him.
And mehmehmen , to install a custom rom, you need a hacked boot! this is legal? NO! If it wass legal , the Sony leave the boot to install hwo cares what he want. So pls spaire us with you legal stuff!
This thread will contain my port from FreeX10 for the big x10 by zdzihu.
Status:
Creating vendor setup, man, this takes ages!
Next:
Compile
Fix basic drivers (like my Sense release)
Share
The Work's
Nothing, atm
The Won't 's:
Booting
Camera
Update:
I've made a script to install xrecovery, root and fix busybox after updating to 2.0.2.A.0.24
I have packed it into an exe for your ease. Of course I know you'll want a virusscan so I've added links on the bottom. It's just a extracting sfx archive so if you have knowledge with that you can just extract it and see, if you don't trust me
x10 Mini Pro VirusScan @ virusscan.jotti.org
x10 Mini VirusScan @ virusscan.jotti.org
I'll be more and happy to assist in the port for mini pro. only thing is i have exams until mid of feburary. but i think i'll be able to make some free time and help!
which tool chain do we need? codesourcery?
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Hello, I have a minor issue in porting over FreeX10.
Namely the camera, it is really being a pain in the {nasty word goes here}
the compiling process keeps on pooping me out with errors related to libcamera.so.
the libcamera.so is looking for android::CameraParameters::ORIENTATION, android::CameraParameters::ORIENTATION_LANDSCAPE and android::CameraParameters::ORIENTATION_PORTRAIT
which aren't devined in the AOSP source and are something Sony Ericsson has added in.
I tried putting in libcameraservice.so, libfacedetection.so and libfacedetectjnitest.so, but it's still complaining about resources.
Anyone wants to team up and help me port?
Greetings
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Here's the whole change: https://github.com/xian1243/android_frameworks_base/commit/8e309093776b259a23077feb095aee082f68a2f8
But still, I suggest to compile with USE_CAMERA_STUB := true and worry about it later
Cheers,
z
Can i be like beta tester when ur done?
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Here's the whole change: https://github.com/xian1243/android_frameworks_base/commit/8e309093776b259a23077feb095aee082f68a2f8
But still, I suggest to compile with USE_CAMERA_STUB := true and worry about it later
Cheers,
z
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Thanks, I'll take a look at that tomorrow
maxaan said:
Can i be like beta tester when ur done?
i know i only have 2 posts but i know android and know some basic stuff about adb and i have a rooted u20i with xRecovery (Thank you so much Zdzihu!)
Ask if u need to know something more...
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Sure, I'll put the rom online as soon as I have it booting, in pre-alpha stage that is.
Don't expect too much though, by 'booting' I mean that you get to the launcher.
Camera won't work for sure for the time being, but other than that I don't expect too many issues.
Thanks for your interest!
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Sure, I'll put the rom online as soon as I have it booting, in pre-alpha stage that is.
Don't expect too much though, by 'booting' I mean that you get to the launcher.
Camera won't work for sure for the time being, but other than that I don't expect too many issues.
Thanks for your interest!
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Will you put it up in this thread or somwhere else?
Sounds great but Is this only going to be for the Mini
If you want to - I could just be the alpha and beta tester.
Way to go pal!
maxaan said:
Will you put it up in this thread or somwhere else?
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I'll post it in the first post, it'll probably be sometime later today.
Manny- said:
Sounds great but Is this only going to be for the Mini
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Pretty easy to port this over to the Mini once I got this running, but the build I'm working on right now is for the x10 Mini Pro.
zyker said:
Way to go pal!
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Thank you,
but It'll take a long time before I get this to run smoothly
ok its working .. whats next?
Mikevhl said:
This thread will contain my port from FreeX10 for the big x10 by zdzihu.
Mind testing my port from xRecovery-installer? I've attached it.
Status:
Redownloading the Repo.
Commiting changes released by zdzihu from his Github repo.
Compiling the AOSP using zdzihu's changes.
Next:
Test on device.
Help Needed with:
Nothing at the moment, pre-alpha will probably be up later today.
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Is there a xRecovery 0.2?
So Nice !
Waiting for this
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Is there a xRecovery 0.2?
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This is a port of the xRecovery installer by zoz33.
The big x10 which the original installer is from is using xRecovery 0.2 but I replaced the files with our xRecovery 0.1
So this is basically an "easy install mode" for our xRecovery 0.1
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This is a port of the xRecovery installer by zoz33.
The big x10 which the original installer is from is using xRecovery 0.2 but I replaced the files with our xRecovery 0.1
So this is basically an "easy install mode" for our xRecovery 0.1
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Ok. When will you upload the rom? Im so excited!!
Next:
Uploading, any preferences for mirrors?
Mediafire
Please put up some screens ASAP then, + info on whats working and whats not.
Anyone thought of compiling a 2.3 ROM for the X10 mini pro.
Or is it not possible yet? if so, why ? =)
Is anyone working on a 2.2 or 2.3 rom for the E10i?
not bad idea...
let's start that..
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let's start that..
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Could a 2.3 system base, work on our current kernel?
Froyo ?? Wow . . are you making
DaRk_dOg said:
Could a 2.3 system base, work on our current kernel?
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Well as per my view i don't think that 2.3 version will work on our mini's ..........Becoz(I HATE TO SAY THAT) its H/W requirements are far more larger than mini.
Well as per my view i don't think that 2.3 version will work on our mini's ..........Becoz(I HATE TO SAY THAT) its H/W requirements are far more larger than mini.
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Nonsense! we just need to be able to put custom kernels, but we can't! (bootloader is in the way) so no froyo, no gingerbread, no ports till we eliminate that SE's moral breaker... 2.3 may go a bit slower, but if an htc magic can actually use froyo, we can use 4 or 5s if they ever appear (note the exaggeration, please)
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well even 2.2 will do then ^.^
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well even 2.2 will do then ^.^
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we need some way to pass the bootloader
Manny- said:
well even 2.2 will do then ^.^
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yeahhh lets wish that it works more gud than current 2.1
stock 2.3 would run fine on the x10 mini (less apps like flash of course). SE just can't see any benefit in providing the update. As for the Kernel, developers on the big x10 have already proven that 2.2/2.3 will operate on 2.6.29.
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stock 2.3 would run fine on the x10 mini (less apps like flash of course). SE just can't see any benefit in providing the update. As for the Kernel, developers on the big x10 have already proven that 2.2/2.3 will operate on 2.6.29.
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2.2 can work. 2.3 only as a demo.
don't see why not..
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Could a 2.3 system base, work on our current kernel?
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but what is the use of 2.2, 2.3 when newer kernels work better,,, and we can't put new one w/o loader...
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but what is the use of 2.2, 2.3 when newer kernels work better,,, and we can't put new one w/o loader...
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Sure, they work better but also newer system base can work better.
(even a 2.1 pure vanila android would work better than SE version. Remember: Less crapware = more speed)
In mini pro forum, Mikevhl is porting free X10 rom from zdzihu to mini pro and is willing to port it to mini too.
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In mini pro forum, Mikevhl is porting free X10 rom from zdzihu to mini pro and is willing to port it to mini too.
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Yeap! I suppose we are all waiting for him.
Regards, D_d
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stock 2.3 would run fine on the x10 mini (less apps like flash of course). SE just can't see any benefit in providing the update. As for the Kernel, developers on the big x10 have already proven that 2.2/2.3 will operate on 2.6.29.
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loger8 fails hard! well then, i'm looking more than forward for a real custom rom, then ^^
The E10 is alive!! aliveeeee!!!
Hope someone bring v2.2 on our x10 mini.
I'm working on it, you can check my thread in the x10 mini pro development. I'm stuck atm but if I get this working I'll port it over to the mini in no-time
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let's start that..
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is it working on e10i???????
Now with the progress of Cracking Boot loader from the main Big X10 Forum... anyone is working on a custom Kernel for the U20a?
Regards!
wolframio74 said:
Now with the progress of Cracking Boot loader from the main Big X10 Forum... anyone is working on a custom Kernel for the U20a?
Regards!
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the bootloader for x10 mini pro is not cracked. I don't think its possible for now! but surely owain and other guys will make it work!
newtron_b1 said:
the bootloader for x10 mini pro is not cracked. I don't think its possible for now! but surely owain and other guys will make it work!
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it is not cracked but with custom exec tool you can replace kernel with it
i already did it but it gives a ****load of bugs but working on it
yes thats correct you can use kexec tool to boot a new kernel on the fly. but its always full of unexpected bugs
owain you can look in the sony ericsson kernel for the bootflags the zimage will use. and maybe use this as your rootdevice=blablablafromzimage or make a custom image on the sd card but new kernel will need mmc support compiled into it.
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it is not cracked but with custom exec tool you can replace kernel with it
i already did it but it gives a ****load of bugs but working on it
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see i told you!! this man can do anything!
newtron_b1 said:
the bootloader for x10 mini pro is not cracked. I don't think its possible for now! but surely owain and other guys will make it work!
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as someone say it, custom kernel on the fly is now possible (that was the progress for bootloader), and that mean developers can do somethis similar to the temporal CFW for the PSP 3XXX used for 3 years!, now is permament CFW
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it is not cracked but with custom exec tool you can replace kernel with it
i already did it but it gives a ****load of bugs but working on it
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nice to hear it!!!! you are the master of the minis! xD, search the mos compatible kernel build then start editing and puting drivers and we are set, my best Regards!
slade87 said:
yes thats correct you can use kexec tool to boot a new kernel on the fly. but its always full of unexpected bugs
owain you can look in the sony ericsson kernel for the bootflags the zimage will use. and maybe use this as your rootdevice=blablablafromzimage or make a custom image on the sd card but new kernel will need mmc support compiled into it.
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i use SE as base otherwise we don't see a kernel for 2 years xD
Very true its a pain in the ass to port specfic drivers to new kernels and it eats a lot of time!
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slade87 said:
Very true its a pain in the ass to port specfic drivers to new kernels and it eats a lot of time!
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i agree but i think dev can edit, patch or hack the original SE kernel for diferrent results, for example load more modules or drivers
Hi all,
i would like to know what is so special about this ROM in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1212949
Because we all are using cm7 modded roms and cm6, what is so special about it? just wondering since the day that thread came into existence. Thats all.
Thank you
Tim
do you know the different already
I don't understand it either but I think that:
X10 mini is not supported officialy by CM6 or CM7 but we need to use port like miniCM6 to make it work.
If you look at the official webpage, there is no SE phone supported http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices
So I think this new project is to build a CM7 Rom for the Xperia line which may be more stable and more complete than other custom ROM. Moreover I think that SE developpers are gonna help in this project by giving some code for special hardware.
(Look at this http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/wp/2011/09/28/sony-ericsson-supports-independent-developers/)
If someone know more about this, it would be interesting!!!
The general idea is, that every bit of software on the phone should be open source, i.e. Free for everyone.
The driver layer of stock firmware is not open source, therefore you either have to adapt your operating system to work with standard drivers in kernel (what most developers/chefs do) or build drivers from the ground up (which is what FXP team is doing).
Then you have a completely open system with source code available for everyone.
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The general idea is, that every bit of software on the phone should be open source, i.e. Free for everyone.
The driver layer of stock firmware is not open source, therefore you either have to adapt your operating system to work with standard drivers in kernel (what most developers/chefs do) or build drivers from the ground up (which is what FXP team is doing).
Then you have a completely open system with source code available for everyone.
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FreeXperiaProjekt
all is FREE for the XPERIAS thats our PROJEKT
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FreeXperiaProjekt
all is FREE for the XPERIAS thats our PROJEKT
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You can read that in many ways...
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Thanks all! i didnt know all would be such interested in that.
But well, i guess that this project will be better because it is started from the base.
I use a x10 mini pro (2010) and cant use the stock rom, because im too fond of the gingerbread roms out here. all are special in some way. and im testing each one specifically. if i use the stock rom i miss out some features i like and do upgrade.
So i wondered, if this FXP is something different, like pfonck said, build from ground up, then it would work according to our needs. very good and i like it.
Keep it up devs (i mean, FXP team!).
regards,
Tim
If you know what is inside the source code of everything, all the way from bootloader to app it's much easier to bugfix... So all in all they should be able to create an up to date rom that rivals the old stock rom for stability.
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thanks pfonck for the info. you are right. since we are porting the roms from something sles we dont get the "real deal" out of a gingerbread rom or froyobread rom. that speaks well because it is from the base.
hope soon everyone will jump to it
Thanks
regards
Tim
I think what will be special about this ROM is that it won't be special! It'll be a 'vanilla' CM7 which will be open source and made specifically for each device. I imagine it will, with regular bugfixing, become the most stable custon ROM, and I envisage that it'll be the basis for most other Mini Pro custom ROMs.
It won't be anything revolutionary that we haven't seen from other ported gingerbread ROM's, in fact it'll probably have less features. People may still prefer a port of GingerDX which has the GingerDX settings. Or MiniCM Pro with its Xloud and Bravia engine. But for those who want a pure CM7 experience from developers who now have access and help from Sony Ericsson to use official drivers, it should turn out great. (and also, no developers names written on the lockscreen)