Blimey
Wifi weak
GPS issues
Display yellow tint
wake up lag
overheating playing 3D games
sound quality issues
battery life problems
Anyone wanting to find out if this phone is worth buying would turn away very fast.
When I owned my SGS2, my wifi was fine, GPS was spot on and fast, never noticed a yellow tint, cant work out where the wake up lag was, ok it overheated playing pocket legends but nothing else, sound was pretty good, battery life seemed to improve over time.
Anymore positive comments or links to threads, that might make a new comer welcome.
THUDUK said:
Blimey
Wifi weak
GPS issues
Display yellow tint
wake up lag
overheating playing 3D games
sound quality issues
battery life problems
Anyone wanting to find out if this phone is worth buying would turn away very fast.
When I owned my SGS2, my wifi was fine, GPS was spot on and fast, never noticed a yellow tint, cant work out where the wake up lag was, ok it overheated playing pocket legends but nothing else, sound was pretty good, battery life seemed to improve over time.
Anymore positive comments or links to threads, that might make a new comer welcome.
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Wifi - Yes its weaker compared to the Iphone4 or any of the Netbooks I have at home, In a spot here the netbook can still hold and maintain the signal the SGS2 doesnt even see the router to be in range anymore.
GPS issues - I dont use the GPS that much so its a non-issue for me.
Display yellow tint - Biggest downside of this product, its supposed to feature a great screen (not perfect but great) lots of other quality control related issues on the screen.
wake up lag - I think all andriod phones have this wake up lag, but someone correct me on this. The S1 also had this after the 2.2 update.
overheating playing 3D games - I've been with 3 units and my first 2 phones barely heated up when playing games, this 3rd phone runs significantly warmer.
sound quality issues - S2 uses a lower end sound chip so this must be the main culprit.
battery life problems - totally subjective to the usage and expectations, Im getting great battery life my self, nothing extra ordinary.
Dont forget about the pink spot on the camera and video stutter/frame drop issues too
Nothing subjective about weak battery - it's WEAK....
Only + point i can think about is a decent camera. But on mine it broke 2 weeks after purchase.
Korean trash.
THUDUK said:
Blimey
Wifi weak
GPS issues
Display yellow tint
wake up lag
overheating playing 3D games
sound quality issues
battery life problems
Anyone wanting to find out if this phone is worth buying would turn away very fast.
When I owned my SGS2, my wifi was fine, GPS was spot on and fast, never noticed a yellow tint, cant work out where the wake up lag was, ok it overheated playing pocket legends but nothing else, sound was pretty good, battery life seemed to improve over time.
Anymore positive comments or links to threads, that might make a new comer welcome.
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My experience:
Wifi weak = Good enough for my use
GPS issues = nope
Display yellow tint = nope
wake up lag = You got to be kidding me
overheating playing 3D games = True it gets pretty warm
sound quality issues = Good enough for my use
battery life problems = Battery life is good
I have 4 friends with the same phone, and they are not experiencing these issues.
Positives:
- It is fast. It laughs at your iPhone 4 and Sensation.
- It has a big beautiful screen but it is still thin and lightweight
- Enough RAM (1 GB)
- Touchwiz 4 is super smooth and it is in my opinion better than Sense
- Very smooth web browser
- Good camera
Overall:
Best phone on the market at the moment.
Well for me it is mainly the Web Browser (Stock only), I don't even turn my PC on for normal browsing anymore. Full Flash support is awesome. Hardware acceleration is great too.
Besides, Video Playback capacity is great too, it can even play 1080P MKV's, and that with subtitles, nice. We shouldn't forget the awesome 4.27" S-AMOLED Plus screen.
Having a Noise Cancellation Mic is very nice too, especially when you are in noisy areas.
What else? Can't remember atm, will edit post if I do remember.
Regards.
lynzoid said:
Nothing subjective about weak battery - it's WEAK....
Only + point i can think about is a decent camera. But on mine it broke 2 weeks after purchase.
Korean trash.
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Ill-informed and racist - good work.
Pity you didn't manage a spot of sexism or you'd have had the hat trick.
Rytkonen said:
My experience:
Likewise from my use .
Wifi weak = Good enough for my use >>>Strong signal for me up to the limit of routers range .
GPS issues = nope >>> near enough perfect
Display yellow tint = nope>> some insist i have it but yet to find it
wake up lag = You got to be kidding me >> dont really understand that one
overheating playing 3D games = True it gets pretty warm >> dont play games
sound quality issues = Good enough for my use >> Absolutely no complaints but i understand that those that like bangy bangy find bass low .
battery life problems = Battery life is good >>> Sorted good battery life .
6 million sold and how many returned due to above complaints ???
Very noticeable that the majority that complain do not return the phone .I i had the claimed problems then the phone would have been returned .
jje
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The yellow tint was just a manufacturing problem, and if you bought a device now (new) it wouldn't have it.
lynzoid said:
Nothing subjective about weak battery - it's WEAK....
Only + point i can think about is a decent camera. But on mine it broke 2 weeks after purchase.
Korean trash.
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Ok if its not subjective to usage then anyone who cant reach 6days of battery life has a defective phone since I can get 6days with well over 40% of battery left. This is ofcourse taken from what you said.
See how others would comment about the battery life or screen, they have different feedbacks according to what their usage is.
Ex.
Someone who just uses the phone for call/sms will have insanely awesome battery life but someone who has wifi/bt/gps/HSPDA enabled 24/7 might with regular push and updates and uses this phone as an alternative to a netbook will only get between 6-10hrs of battery life.
Same goes for the people who dont see the yellow tint as an issue because they bought the phone not for its screen but for its phone features or just plainly accept the defects thus causing a low quality product.
Everything is almost subjective to the user.
Jimbojib said:
The yellow tint was just a manufacturing problem, and if you bought a device now (new) it wouldn't have it.
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Not being anal here but Id like for you to prove that with pictures that the new batches dont have yellow tinting, so that those who bought the initial batches that came out can send it so the service center and have it replaced.
JJEgan said:
6 million sold and how many returned due to above complaints ???
Very noticeable that the majority that complain do not return the phone .I i had the claimed problems then the phone would have been returned .
jje
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Thats the problem, a lot of us assume that the 6 million figure released by sites is 100% accurate and even if it is we dont really know how much the return rates are but if they are indeed pretty low how come a few folks ( regardless of how few this ppl are ) have exchanged the phone more than twice..
Also a lot of people have been getting misinformation from forums claiming these issues to be "normal", with enough returns samsung will surely rectify some of it.
Think about it if samsung will silently introduce a new revised hardware with a significantly higher screen quality control ( including the total elimination of the yellow tinting, darker spots, white blotches and vertical banding ) and a fixed camera w/o frame drops and pink spots, a better GPS antenna configuration.. for sure those who claimed that they dont see the issue suddenly will see the issue if they know about revised hardware. Just saying but its gonna be a fact when this happens, not asking for perfection just asking for better quality =)
Then again the issues we see (aside from quality and manufacturing issues) are pretty much subjective to the user experience.
The positive thing about this phone is that its blazing fast! No other phone can compare but it also has a lot of issues and down sides especially the AOS bug when you have wifi and IM apps running, compared it to a 2.1 / 2.2 or 2.3.5 nexus reference device the N1 and NS outlasts the battery on this phone, heck even the iphone4 outlasts it when the AOS bug kicks in.
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The yellow tint was just a manufacturing problem, and if you bought a device now (new) it wouldn't have it.
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LOL, Negative. Prove what you say.
If you are trying to spoil the mind of the old buyers, then that won't happen.
Regards.
My SGS2 is only couple of weeks old , no yellow tint on it, can post pictures compared to my captivate later.
Rytkonen said:
My experience:
Wifi weak = Good enough for my use
GPS issues = nope
Display yellow tint = nope
wake up lag = You got to be kidding me
overheating playing 3D games = True it gets pretty warm
sound quality issues = Good enough for my use
battery life problems = Battery life is good
I have 4 friends with the same phone, and they are not experiencing these issues.
Positives:
- It is fast. It laughs at your iPhone 4 and Sensation.
- It has a big beautiful screen but it is still thin and lightweight
- Enough RAM (1 GB)
- Touchwiz 4 is super smooth and it is in my opinion better than Sense
- Very smooth web browser
- Good camera
Overall:
Best phone on the market at the moment.
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+1.
Battery life is proportional to use. Wi-Fi+sync = battery drain. Have been using Juice Defender Ultimate for a few days and it help to solve this as it turns Wi-Fi and sync on only then the screen is on and when it is scheduled to do so (for 15 seconds every 15 minutes in my case) in order to receive e-mails, updates, etc.
About the rest, well, no issues at all! Just perfect.
ghost77 said:
My SGS2 is only couple of weeks old , no yellow tint on it, can post pictures compared to my captivate later.
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angelomaldito said:
About the rest, well, no issues at all! Just perfect.
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Please post pictures as it will be a great news for those who are still waiting for a fix on this before sending it to the service center. Also post the kernels used after you guys post the pictures.. hopefully its still a 2.3.3 kernel
Now I'm about to post the negatives and positives about this phone. I love this phone despite its negatives though. I just hate how Android isn't really optimized atm (little to no hardware acceleration and no proper multi-core utilization). I bought mine 3 weeks back.
TL;DR
The yellow tint is there (in addition to vertical lines), wi-fi is weak, wake up lag is there sometimes (about 1 sec), it gets warm (I hope this has no effect on the screen, I'd hate it if the heat ruins the screen), battery life seems to get better overtime.
These points might sound weird because I copy pasted the review I wrote to my friends.
Negatives:
1. Browser would sometimes get stuck on white blank page when switching windows (not apps, windows as in tabs), especially heavier webpages. One workaround is to switch orientations (portrait to landscape, then back to portrait).
2. This is true to all Android browsers. You will have problems with websites with scrollable frames. And pop-ups.
3. This is also true to all Android phones. Multitouch and copy paste implementations are not consistent throughout the phone. In Browser, you will find that the copy paste works wonderfully well. In some apps, copy paste isn't even implemented. This is the only area in which I think the S2 loses to iPhone.
4. Eventhough it's light, build quality does not win that of HTC. I dropped it once (more like threw instead of dropped), it has a little damage, nothing visible unless you shine direct light to it, mainly because it's black.
5. The charger you get out of the box is merely 700mAH instead of 1000mAH like those bundled by HTC. It takes roughly 3 hours to charge from 0 to 100% (if you use it while charging it can take you a whole lot longer). This brings us to next point.
6. The phone gets warm, warmer than what would feel comfortable when you use it extensively, especially when charging. This is probably why the charger supplied is less powerful, to avoid overheating. This is one reason I don't have casing.
7. The phone automatically turns down your brightness to 0% when your battery reaches 10%. This apparently has no workaround, unless you flash another ROM.
8. I've heard people saying that, eventhough this comes with Gorilla Glass, the Oleophobic coating makes it prone to scratches. I personally run around without a screen protector, and still no scratches after 2 weeks.
9. The wi-fi chip might be the low-power one. I'm getting the same amount of bars as my HTC Wildfire.
10. I'm not sure if the physical keys will play well with Ice Cream Sandwich. I heard ICS will be more like Honeycomb, meaning the main buttons are placed on-screen.
Positives:
1. 4.3" of Super Amoled Plus goodness. I can never look at my desktop and laptop monitors the same way anymore. Anything with black background looks absolutely stunning.
2. It's so powerful that I experience almost zero lag. Lags can still be felt though when you're running unoptimized apps. Whatsapp is one app in which you can feel the stutters.
3. Browsing is ultra smooth, there simply is no lag, even when browsing image-heavy sites. This is mainly because Hardware Acceleration is enabled in the Browser. And I think Samsung adopted iOS' method, you will see checkerboards sometimes.
4. Again, performance. I run Live wallpaper, listen to music, read manga, altogether without experiencing a single stutter, and I hardly ever use the Task Manager.
5. Apps are getting better. Almost all respectable companies are releasing iOS version of the app together with Android version. I downloaded a few addictive games and they're on par with the iOS version.
6. The Oleophobic coating feels really good on the fingers. Touchscreen also seems to register even the slightest of touch.
7. It is very very light, iPhone4 felt like a brick when holding them together.
8. It comes pre-installed with multiple codecs. I've loaded my phone with a few movies and they all play without a problem. 720p movies are played without any lag.
9. The hardware is pretty much future-proof. I believe it can run anything thrown at it for the next 2 years.
10. Touchwiz 4.0 is pretty good, I can't believe I actually like it.
ithehappy said:
Well for me it is mainly the Web Browser (Stock only), I don't even turn my PC on for normal browsing anymore. Full Flash support is awesome. Hardware acceleration is great too.
Besides, Video Playback capacity is great too, it can even play 1080P MKV's, and that with subtitles, nice. We shouldn't forget the awesome 4.27" S-AMOLED Plus screen.
Having a Noise Cancellation Mic is very nice too, especially when you are in noisy areas.
What else? Can't remember atm, will edit post if I do remember.
Regards.
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I love web browsing on here but NOT with the Samsung-modified browser. Main issue is it doesn't offer a desktop display options! With a screen this nice and we get dumbed down to the mobile displays? Whatthe?
Don't want the useragent browser workaround either? Doesn't stick.
FORTUNATELY I found the slim uberfast boat browser or this would've been returned.
Yeah, I browse a lot...much of it for work actually.
EarlZ said:
Please post pictures as it will be a great news for those who are still waiting for a fix on this before sending it to the service center. Also post the kernels used after you guys post the pictures.. hopefully its still a 2.3.3 kernel
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Yes, sir! Here you are, with browser brightness at about 20%
I can't see any yellow tint or any other issue with my display. I'm currently on XXKG3 stock ROM, but I have used KE1 and KE7 stock before and I haven't noticed any issue either.
[EDIT] Before I used to use stock KE1 and KE7 Kernels (2.3.3). Now I use CF-Root 4.1 XXKG3 (2.3.4) and I have to say that it rocks. (Deserved donations to CF made!)
THUDUK said:
Blimey
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Wifi weak
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The SGS2 doesn't like certain routers. Those of us with Netgear routers are getting terrific performance. Mine's better than any phone I've used. Traveling, the SGS2 isn't consistently better or worse than other phones I've used.
GPS issues
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I haven't had any problems and I've used it with Co-Pilot in both the U.S. and Europe. It locks fairly quick and stays locked. Accuracy is as good as my G2 (Desire Z)
Display yellow tint
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The screen temperature varies from device to device. Some have had a yellow tint but it doesn't appear to be the majority. There's a production/design issue that shows as a darkening on the left 1/4 of the display. The majority can't see it unless they take pics of their phones in dark rooms at 10% brightness. Screens with a yellow bias seem to exaggerate it.
wake up lag
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Doesn't bother me.
overheating playing 3D games
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Some games aren't optimized for the phone and cause it to run hot. Same thing for every other dual-core phone.
sound quality issues
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I use Shure 530's, a Yamaha YSP4000, and A2DP in my car and don't have a problem with the sound. If you're an audiophile stick with your SGS1 because it has a Wolfson (vs. Yamaha) DAC.
battery life problems
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I'm running stock and get 14-18 hours of moderate-heavy use including all the syncs synching every three hours, using Wi-Fi heavilly, and using Exchange push. Load your phone up with a bunch of questionable apps and use battery monitors, task killers, and other crap and you too will have ****ty battery life.
Anyone wanting to find out if this phone is worth buying would turn away very fast.
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And what phone's better? If you look at the Sensation, O2X/G2X, and Atrix forums there's a list of comparable issues. Many people that have issues have an expectation of perfection that's not realistic for a mass-produced electronic device. If you're one of them, and are seeking perfection, don't buy a dual-core phone. The vast majority on this forum are thrilled with their purchase and would recommend the phone to a friend.
rockky said:
I love web browsing on here but NOT with the Samsung-modified browser. Main issue is it doesn't offer a desktop display options! With a screen this nice and we get dumbed down to the mobile displays? Whatthe?
Don't want the useragent browser workaround either? Doesn't stick.
FORTUNATELY I found the slim uberfast boat browser or this would've been returned.
Yeah, I browse a lot...much of it for work actually.
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Yeah, I agree. The Samsung browser definitely could offer easily a decent desktop view. Messing with user agent doesn't provide a long term fix. For this reason, I have Opera mobile on my phone, which is great for that purpose. Nevertheless, I only use Opera when I want a desktop view, 98% of the time I stick with the Samsung browser, which for mobile view is good in my opinion.
angelomaldito said:
Yes, sir! Here you are, with browser brightness at about 20%
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You realize screen shots are what's being sent to the display, not what's being shown by it...
BarryH_GEG said:
You realize screen shots are what's being sent to the display, not what's being shown by it...
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yes, you're right. Anyway, if some of you guys can't trust me, I'll post some pictures latter at night in the dark. Just let me know if you wish any specific brightness, colour background, web page, etc.
By the mean time, I can only say that I've never had such issue with any ROM or kernel I had in my device.
Apologies ahead of time for the wall of text...
I got my wife the Prime for Christmas. It took her a couple of days to finally open it, as I gave her the choice of going with it or the iPad2. After a couple of days, she seems to like it and is slowly getting the hang of the OS.
I've played with it some. For the most part, it seems smooth. I've managed to make it glitch (lag) a time or two by going in and out of apps and even had the launcher itself FC on me forcing me to reboot.
That was while checking out Alice in Wonderland in MyBooks, which by the way, is not exactly usable. The page animations worked at first, then stopped, then the pages stopped turning altogether and the app FC'd. Not that I care or am surprised. I'm used to included software being half-baked.
Browser experience has been fine using stock and Opera. Dolphin doesn't seem to work as well on the TF201 as it does on my Atrix. Perfect experience? No. I have a $4,500 i7 2920-XM workstation with an SSD and 16gigs of RAM at work and even with it, the browsing experience (or OS experience in general) can lag/glitch from time to time. Nature of the beast.
I can't really comment on battery life. She took it off the charger Monday night at 100%. It hasn't been used steadily for more than 1-2 hours at a time. It's down to about 15% this morning. I can't really say how many hours of use she's gotten out of it but it doesn't seem to drain much overnight, even with Facebook, email and other notifactions. It felt like it was draining pretty quick when in use but I'll have to pay closer attention.
There's minor light bleed around the edges but I had to turn the lights off during boot up to notice. I haven't attempted to watch an entire movie in the dark with it to tell if it's something that will be bothersome. I'll tell you, I went through THREE Sony XBR2 LCDs a few years ago. They suffered from horrible "clouding" (blotchy white areas all over the panel) and light bleed in the corners. That was noticeable under normal use and since I primarily watched movies in pure darkness, it was bothersome. I don't think it's going to be an issue w/ the TF201 unless I'm being nitpicky.
WiFi seems OK. I have yet to compare it to the laptop, but compared to my Atrix (CM7) it's getting the same signal. It fluctuates some, even staying in the same spot, but it's never caused a problem.
I haven't tested GPS. Something tells me it's not going to operate properly though It's low on my list of concerns and I'll use it as an excuse to return the thing to Gamestop in the next 15 days (for exchange only, which is irksome), but otherwise, I'm not too concerned. If it turns out to be hardware, I imagine an RMA will correct it. It would be cool to use the thing for GPS but I own an actual GPS and rarely use it. I would still prefer the device have its features work, of course.
Aside from the launcher FC and subsequent reboot and the occasional glitchiness/lag using the stock launcher and jumping through apps, the only other issue I've noticed happened this AM. I woke up to the room filled with light. The TF201 was on. I didn't wait long to see if it would go back to sleep so maybe it would have. However, when I got up to see what it was doing, I noticed it had rebooted. Hopefully that doesn't happen often and hopefully not while in use!
I'm confident that a lot of these issues can be fixed with firmware updates and hopefully those are pretty quick to release. Overall, I'm pretty happy with the device. Hopefully ICS will only make the experience better. And hopefully it will come soon so all of the speculation, etc can end! I know my Atrix went from all right to pretty frickin' awesome when I put CM7 on it.
So I've had this update for almost more or less than 2 months now, and the speed has improved just a little bit. As we all know, typical samsung software, has some glitches and stutter and all that still occurs, for some reason that I and every users don't know why this still exist. Sometimes I'm watching on Youtube, and the damn video just freezes but you can still hear the audio. But I thought maybe it's just the app so i reset the app by force stopping and clearing the data but the thing still occurs. Camera overtime, has slowed down. I don't know why but this specially occurs on lowlight situations that whenever but not always, i launched my camera, it just lags and stops and gos and it's so annoyingly slow. But most of the time, it is snappy. On the other good side of this story, i like the minimalistic Camera app. It's really just their software. Overall it is indeed snappy, but the consistency is their problem. My storage isn't even full yet, for all we know storages slow down as you're taking it all up. I've scheduled automatic restarts, i think it helped. The fingerprint, ugh i don't even wanna talk about it. I don't know how a oneplus 3 has better fingerprint than samsung's flagship. I mean it's just unreliable, i don't know maybe it's just mine??? I literally had 3 fingers assigned on my one and only right thumb just so that the phone won't have excuses lol. But no, im disappointed. It always has to be two damn tries, thats the least. Bluelight filter is now baked in, which is a very nice feature, atleast for me. Battery, i personally didn't notice any change, but thumbs up to that cos im more than satisfied with it. And as we all know, snapchat camera still sucks not only on this phone but with every android phone. The modes, man are they helpful for those times we really need to save battery. You can customize the resolution of you're desire., well not really but three choices is a lot. 720p,1080p,1440p. Now on the update, I don''t know if you noticed, my resolution is set to 1080p because the mode that is chosen after the update will automatically choose the "optimized" mode which adjusts the resolution and cpu speeds and all that according to the activity you're currenty doing. Which is another good thing. Also, google assistant arrived as well, which great! Interface has some major color and look and design changes. The status bar along with the pull down menu in my opinion has become cleaner and better looking than the previous version. The settings has been better, way way better organized than before. Samsung Pay hasn't yet to come in Canada for some goddamn reason (i know it's not suppose to be here but maybe just maybe someone from samsung reads this ****). I'll leave it here, overall, again, it's faster and snappier, app switches are better almost perfect. But you know, stutters and lags will be there. This is my review for the nougat update on my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7. Thanks for reading!