[Q] Nandroid question - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Will using the nandroid backup also act as an odin? Restoring and deleting everything? Basically will it delete everything on the phone and restore it to my backup as if i was using odin to do it?

mystycs said:
Will using the nandroid backup also act as an odin? Restoring and deleting everything? Basically will it delete everything on the phone and restore it to my backup as if i was using odin to do it?
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From what ive seen it takes the phone back to the same state it was when you made the nandroid

geocepe said:
From what ive seen it takes the phone back to the same state it was when you made the nandroid
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This is true. Think of it similar as Windows system restore feature. Remember that all data on your internal "sd card" and external sd card stay the same.

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Getting set up after flashing a new rom?

For the people who are constantly flashing new roms and trying them all out-
do you always have to reinstall all of your apps everytime?
what about other things like your SMS's? I just restored 40k texts w/ SMS backup and restore after flashing a rom, and the restore took forever. not to mention the pain in the neck for reinstalling all the apps.
what else should i be backing up and restoring with each new rom flash? are there any tricks to doing this process quickly?
thanks!
Titanium Backup Pro
GO SMS PRO (has backup and restore sms local)
i restore only my most recent 500 texts so i can keep up with conversations that are going on. the rest i let sms backup+ vault away in my gmail.
Pirateghost said:
Titanium Backup Pro
GO SMS PRO (has backup and restore sms local)
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do i need to run TBU and all apps from the extSD for this to work? also, do i need the paid version?
Pirateghost said:
Titanium Backup Pro
GO SMS PRO (has backup and restore sms local)
i restore only my most recent 500 texts so i can keep up with conversations that are going on. the rest i let sms backup+ vault away in my gmail.
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+1 for Go SMS. It's an awesome program for sure and backing up is so simple.
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mjondj said:
do i need to run TBU and all apps from the extSD for this to work? also, do i need the paid version?
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Only need the paid if you want multiple version backups and want to freeze apps instead of deleting them.
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Kadin said:
Only need the paid if you want multiple version backups and want to freeze apps instead of deleting them.
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And don't forget the batch restore without the prompts
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how does titanium backup restore all the apps if the system was wiped? i don't get it.
mjondj said:
how does titanium backup restore all the apps if the system was wiped? i don't get it.
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You have to back it up first. It backs it up to your internal SD card, which won't get wiped, even if you do a fartory reset and wipe in CWM. You can copy those backups to your computer also, for safe keeping.
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mjondj said:
how does titanium backup restore all the apps if the system was wiped? i don't get it.
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Keep in mind that the system itself and the main area where info like thus is stored are on two different parts of the internal memory. Wiping the data via cwm, as mentioned above, won't wiped both.
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mjondj said:
how does titanium backup restore all the apps if the system was wiped? i don't get it.
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There are a few internal data storage areas (for user data, at least...)
/data (an internal Android partition),
/cache (an internal Android partition that's usually safe to wipe as often as you like), and
/sdcard (internal SD)
Android is designed such that any app should behave sanely if /sdcard is NOT wiped - thus usually, /sdcard is never wiped. (Note: Doing a wipe/factory reset from the Settings menu of the stock ROM will wipe the SD card.)
Usually, only /data needs to be wiped (along with /cache) - and that is why CWM only wipes /data and /cache but not /sdcard.
TiBu and SMS/Call Logs Backup and Restore use /sdcard for backups.
Note: It is, however, a good idea to periodically back up /sdcard in case you accidentally hit a wipe method that does touch it.
In addition to the above, there's also /system - which is where the ROM itself resides.

How much space does nandroid backup use?

My s3 is a 16GB one and I have 3GB free. If I do a nandroid backup will I need over a 13gb sd card?
generally they are 2GB or there abouts. It varies depending on what you have installed and the rom etc.
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So what does nandroid actually backup?
If I've used 13gb, how is the backup only 2gb or so?
uf21 said:
So what does nandroid actually backup?
If I've used 13gb, how is the backup only 2gb or so?
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All bar modem and EFS folder .
jje
uf21 said:
So what does nandroid actually backup?
If I've used 13gb, how is the backup only 2gb or so?
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it doesn't back up your internal or external sd cards, but it does backup all your system data and apps, user apps and data
Ok so if I do a nandroid backup and I flash a new ROM and something is ot working thwn reflash from the nandroid backup, will everything like apps and their data, photos, settings be the way it was before I flashed a new ROM?
uf21 said:
Ok so if I do a nandroid backup and I flash a new ROM and something is ot working thwn reflash from the nandroid backup, will everything like apps and their data, photos, settings be the way it was before I flashed a new ROM?
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Yes... flashing shouldnt touch your media files like photos or music (internal/external sdcard)
uf21 said:
Ok so if I do a nandroid backup and I flash a new ROM and something is ot working thwn reflash from the nandroid backup, will everything like apps and their data, photos, settings be the way it was before I flashed a new ROM?
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I'm not so sure about that. When you restore, I thought you definitely want to be on the same Kernel as you were on when you created the Nandroid and to be safet it's also good to be on the same Rom as you were when you created the Nandroid backup. Otherwise... bootloop and ugly stuff. At least that's what I get from poking around the Infuse forums (my phone)... mileage may vary with S3.
I'd be interested to hear if others have opinion on this. I stumbled onto this thread while searching about Nandroid procedures.

Why do I keep getting bootloops when I restore nandroid backups ?

A week ago,I flashed cwm touch recovery(1st time I install a custom recovery on my gs3) with odin.I decided to try out wanamlite so I made a nandroid backup of my ROM(stock 4.1.2) then flashed wanamlite.I had a titanium backup of my data so I could restore it on wanamlite but I forgot to put it on my pc before flashing and wiping data(silly I know lol) so I wanted to restore my nandroid backup so I could make another TB of my data but the restore wasn't successful.I got this error message in cwm touch ''error restoring /data !'' or smthin similar and I got in a bootloop.I tried flashing back stock ROM and wiping data(with sd card) then tried to restore the nandroid again,got the same error.I later found out that titanium backup can restore data from a nandroid.Anyways,I tried to make a backup using TWRP but when I tried to restore it,I got in a bootloop again...what could be the problem ? I never had this problem with my gs2...
TL;DR:restoring a nandroid backup gets me in a bootloop whether I use cwm touch or TWRP.
are you backing up to the internal?
have your tried backing up multiple times?
Glebun said:
are you backing up to the internal?
have your tried backing up multiple times?
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Yes I backed up to the internal sd card.I backed up once with cwm and TWRP.Btw,when I tried restoring I had to move the backup from pc to phone because I did a full data wipe and the backup was gone(in both times) if that makes any difference.I have made sure the backup was the same size when I moved it to and from my pc.
Did you enable MD5 check? Could it be files damage to cause unsuccessful boot up?
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qtwrk said:
Did you enable MD5 check? Could it be files damage to cause unsuccessful boot up?
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No but why would they be damaged ? and why would it happen TWICE ? anyways,I will try again now with md5 check.
UPDATE:tried out with md5 checking,didn't get any errors but I still got into bootloop :/
if you didn't turn md5 on Before backing up, there's no md5 to compare to, hence no errors.
Glebun said:
if you didn't turn md5 on Before backing up, there's no md5 to compare to, hence no errors.
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I did turn it on this time.
If the Nandroid is on external sd card format data system sd card and try .
jje
JJEgan said:
If the Nandroid is on external sd card format data system sd card and try .
jje
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It is not,in fact I don't even have an external sd card.I did format everything before trying to restore.

Data lost after a nandroid backup restoration

Hi there. Yesterday, before flashing leaked 4.2.1 ROM, I did a nandroid backup to my external microSD card using Philz Touch Recovery v. 4.63. The process of backing up was successful.
The problem came when I restored the backup. (Before restoration, I had to reinstall the PhilZ Touch recovery and, from it, I did format cache, format system and format data). I recovered my XXEMA2 ROM with all the apps and configurations I had before, BUT there is no trace of the pictures I had in the internal memory or the files I downloaded.
I tried to repeat the process, but I got the same result.
Does anybody know a solution for this?
Thanks in advance.
portamento said:
Hi there. Yesterday, before flashing leaked 4.2.1 ROM, I did a nandroid backup to my external microSD card using Philz Touch Recovery v. 4.63. The process of backing up was successful.
The problem came when I restored the backup. (Before restoration, I had to reinstall the PhilZ Touch recovery and, from it, I did format cache, format system and format data). I recovered my XXEMA2 ROM with all the apps and configurations I had before, BUT there is no trace of the pictures I had in the internal memory or the files I downloaded.
I tried to repeat the process, but I got the same result.
Does anybody know a solution for this?
Thanks in advance.
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Nandroid only backs up your ROM, recovery, apps, app data, etc. and not the data stored in your internal storage.
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Oomahey said:
Nandroid only backs up your ROM, recovery, apps, app data, etc. and not the data stored in your internal storage.
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Ooopppps, I thought it makes a complete image of the phone! (for example, on many websites it's compared with Norton Ghost for PC). Good to know for the next time...
Thank you for the information, Oomahey!
portamento said:
Ooopppps, I thought it makes a complete image of the phone! (for example, on many websites it's compared with Norton Ghost for PC). Good to know for the next time...
Thank you for the information, Oomahey!
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hit "thanks" below his post
portamento said:
Hi there. Yesterday, before flashing leaked 4.2.1 ROM, I did a nandroid backup to my external microSD card using Philz Touch Recovery v. 4.63. The process of backing up was successful.
The problem came when I restored the backup. (Before restoration, I had to reinstall the PhilZ Touch recovery and, from it, I did format cache, format system and format data). I recovered my XXEMA2 ROM with all the apps and configurations I had before, BUT there is no trace of the pictures I had in the internal memory or the files I downloaded.
I tried to repeat the process, but I got the same result.
Does anybody know a solution for this?
Thanks in advance.
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After going back from 4.2.1 to 4.1.2 you'll have your whole Internal Memory in a folder "0". Find it on your Internal Memory. All your data and files should be there. Just transfer them from folder 0 to root of Internal Memory and all will be like before flashing 4.2.1
Glebun said:
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I seem to be blind! I was looking for the "thanks" button, but I didn't found it (I thought that maybe it didn't appear since I was surfing from my mobile). That's why I said "thanks" texting.
EDIT: I was not blind. In the default version of the forum (the classic one) that appears on my Opera Mobile there is not "thanks" button. You need to change manually the versiĆ³n to 2010 one or higher.
Ninolina said:
After going back from 4.2.1 to 4.1.2 you'll have your whole Internal Memory in a folder "0". Find it on your Internal Memory. All your data and files should be there. Just transfer them from folder 0 to root of Internal Memory and all will be like before flashing 4.2.1
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I do have the "0" folder with the old (sub)folders, but all of them are empty :crying:
Maybe it was not a good idea to do format cache/system/data before restoring the nandroid backup... As I thought all data were preserved in the backup, I prefered to delete any trace of 4.2.1 ROM .
portamento said:
I do have the "0" folder with the old (sub)folders, but all of them are empty :crying:
Maybe it was not a good idea to do format cache/system/data before restoring the nandroid backup... As I thought all data were preserved in the backup, I prefered to delete any trace of 4.2.1 ROM .
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Well, that might be the problem. I had also restoring 4.1.2 backup after trying 4.2.1 FW but I didn't do wiping or formating - I just restored backup and there was that 0 folder and all files from Internal were there.

[HELP] Does a CWM / nandroid backup includes WhatsApp images?

Yesterday I whiped my internal storage. Sadly I forgot to secure my WhatsApp images from the respective folder.
Before whipping the device I've made a nandroid backup with CWM.
The question is: does a nandroid backup includes also the images and videos from the internal storage folder of WhatsApp? Can I restore it with the nandroid manager?
I would be pleased for a fast answer :good:
funk_doc said:
Yesterday I whiped my internal storage. Sadly I forgot to secure my WhatsApp images from the respective folder.
Before whipping the device I've made a nandroid backup with CWM.
The question is: does a nandroid backup includes also the images and videos from the internal storage folder of WhatsApp? Can I restore it with the nandroid manager?
I would be pleased for a fast answer :good:
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Yes it should because it backed up /data which some devices have their internal sd partition. Extract the data and see. It should be there as long as you didn't store images on the external sd.
kirito9 said:
It should be there as long as you didn't store images on the external sd.
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Guess what I did... :laugh:
Thanks for the answer. There was nothing in nandroid manager. So I think I need to deal with it.
funk_doc said:
Guess what I did... :laugh:
Thanks for the answer. There was nothing in nandroid manager. So I think I need to deal with it.
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So you're saying that there was no backup in the first place? Or it was wiped?
There is a backup on the external SD. What I meant is that I used nandroid manager for a restore but it only restored the WhatsApp data and sadly no images or videos at all. Maybe there is another possibility?
funk_doc said:
There is a backup on the external SD. What I meant is that I used nandroid manager for a restore but it only restored the WhatsApp data and sadly no images or videos at all. Maybe there is another possibility?
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It should be in a Whatsapp folder on the sdcard.
funk_doc said:
There is a backup on the external SD. What I meant is that I used nandroid manager for a restore but it only restored the WhatsApp data and sadly no images or videos at all. Maybe there is another possibility?
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As far as I know...
A cwm backup will restore data but it won't restore the files.
sorry

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