NOTE: AVOID USING A VIRTUAL MACHINE WITH THIS UTILITY.
IEF (Alpharev) made this utility as a Linux LiveCD specifically to avoid Windows/Virtual Machine issues, so stop using them!
Thanks to IEF of AlphaRev the T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide has S-OFF! I have been working closely with IEF and Unrevoked to make this happen - all credit goes to them for the actual 'brains'.
Here's a photo of proof:
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Status: RELEASED.
DOWNLOAD: http://alpharev.nl AVOID USING A VIRTUAL MACHINE WITH THIS UTILITY.
DONATIONS: Click here to send a donation to AlphaRev.
REQUIRED FIRST: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=754020
Need a free program to burn an ISO? Checkout CDBurnerXP, then ask yourself why you need S-OFF if you've never burnt an ISO before.
Problems? Try NOT using a Virtual Machine!
Still having problems? Try removing your microSD card from your phone before (and during) the Alpharev process.
Still still having problems? Flash the stock ESPRIMG.zip from here: http://db.androidspin.com/androidspin_filedownload.asp?release=280&type=1 (from HBOOT, not from Clockwork). WARNING: this will wipe your entire phone, including ROM, root, application data, and return you to stock. Once it's finished flashing ESPRIMG.zip, start the entire process over (including rooting), and then try again.
This is great news!
This is a whole bunch of.... WIN +1
What exactly is s-off
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
angelo420 said:
What exactly is s-off
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http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
Well, I've checked my calender and it's not April 1st...
I am quite excited!
Great news for the Slide community! Props to all involved.
Too cool. So this means we'll be able to use a different recovery such as Aman Ra?
Fantastic, thank you from Australia!
This is exciting...
I have been getting kinda bummed out due to the lack of ROMs for our phone to choose from and the few we have are rarely being updated. I hope this help add more choices for us with this phone
Awesome!
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This is a whole bunch of.... WIN +1
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Drinks on me next time i come up! (soon)
Jeffery =0)
I had to re-read this thing about 20 times. I keep reading this as telling T-Mobile to piss off ... my bad on that one. Great news. Keep giving me a reason to keep my slide.
Zaiaku said:
I had to re-read this thing about 20 times. I keep reading this as telling T-Mobile to piss off ... my bad on that one.
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This post has a dual purpose... for S-OFF and to tell T-Mobile to PISS-OFF.
apollostees said:
Too cool. So this means we'll be able to use a different recovery such as Aman Ra?
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Yes, however that is already currently possible, just no one has done the work. I should note however that neither AmonRA or CW are ready to be flashed on our device because there are outstanding issues. Issue for AmonRA is that it's too large to fit in our recovery partition. CW has some kind of menu bug where the screen just goes black whenever you go into a menu item.
I'm going to work with Koush (author of CW) when he's back from the Android BBQ in Texas. I'll have to track down AmonRA sometime as well. Hopefully I can have these both ready for when S-OFF is released.
im sorry ... but i still dont get it lol
n i read the s-off page ... any1 kare to explain ?
killacam13 said:
im sorry ... but i still dont get it lol
n i read the s-off page ... any1 kare to explain ?
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The second sentence really says it all. Some of the limitations as to what can be flashed are due to the S-ON flag. With it set to off, the phone will not check for proper signatures, allowing you to flash willy nilly.
fermunky said:
The second sentence really says it all. Some of the limitations as to what can be flashed are due to the S-ON flag. With it set to off, the phone will not check for proper signatures, allowing you to flash willy nilly.
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And, as far as my understanding from my G1, be able to write to /system while Android is running and not in recovery through adb which we currently have to do. Meaning we can run scripts and flash images on the fly. Correct?
On a related note, I'm so jealous of nbetcher and ChiefzReloaded for having s-off right now! LMAO!
heybobitsme said:
On a related note, I'm so jealous of nbetcher and ChiefzReloaded for having s-off right now! LMAO!
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Just to clarify: Chiefz.Reloaded doesn't have S-OFF. In fact I don't even have S-OFF at the moment because the ENG hboot that I have is VERY buggy and does NOT work with Android well (causes acore to crash, amongst many other things). I had to revert to S-ON. We are working on fixing all of this for release - there will be no release with an ENG hboot, so rest assured your phone will work properly.
As you can imagine the general process for S-OFF has not been released to the public openly. Unrevoked has informed the public as to why this is. Consequently it's a small group involved in the process.
nbetcher said:
Just to clarify: Chiefz.Reloaded doesn't have S-OFF. In fact I don't even have S-OFF at the moment because the ENG hboot that I have is VERY buggy and does NOT work with Android well (causes acore to crash, amongst many other things). I had to revert to S-ON. We are working on fixing all of this for release - there will be no release with an ENG hboot, so rest assured your phone will work properly.
As you can imagine the general process for S-OFF has not been released to the public openly. Unrevoked has informed the public as to why this is. Consequently it's a small group involved in the process.
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I gotcha. I was under the impression that because you were working on it, you had it. Nevermind then, I'm no longer jealous.
heybobitsme said:
I gotcha. I was under the impression that because you were working on it, you had it. Nevermind then, I'm no longer jealous.
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I do have it, but I undid it pending a better hboot.
Related
http://www.multiupload.com/NOLWGVUTMZ
6c4babc9c39ca1c4e92030202a4ce413 hboot_8x60-lte_2.11.2005_111221_MR2_signedbyaa.nb0
Its just a eng hboot, its not a magic key, its not a banana split, it doesn't magically give you s-off. No instructions because I have none for you. Sharing in hopes that it furthers someone else's project as well.
This is apparently debug signed, don't attempt to flash it to s-on device. Ship s-on hboots won't flash it, even if you were able to sign an RUU properly.
for the s-off users, this allows extra fastboot commands
Not to imply doubt but is this for real?
With s off and such?
Awesome
kidwolf908 said:
Not to imply doubt but is this for real?
With s off and such?
Awesome
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Wondering the same....
does this give S-OFF?
con247 said:
does this give S-OFF?
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If it does, I think we're about to see a bunch of computers ruined by the nerdgasms that will follow.
according to his twitter it doesn't flash but he just wants to post it anyway
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http://www.multiupload.com/NOLWGVUTMZ
6c4babc9c39ca1c4e92030202a4ce413 hboot_8x60-lte_2.11.2005_111221_MR2_signedbyaa.nb0
Its just a eng hboot, its not a magic key, its not a banana split, it doesn't magically give you s-off. No instructions because I have none for you. Sharing in hopes that it furthers someone else's project as well.
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Now I'm CRAVING a banana split, you rat bastard!
Careful with flashing things like this. Advanced users only please. I can see the newbs going flash crazy. Had anyone flashed yet? Thanks for this jcase. I appreciate you helping out by doing things like this even though you don't have the phone
sent from my cm7 rooted fire
pwned3 said:
Careful with flashing things like this. Advanced users only please. I can see the newbs going flash crazy. Had anyone flashed yet? Thanks for this jcase. I appreciate you helping out by doing things like this even though you don't have the phone
sent from my cm7 rooted fire
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Finding a way to flash it to a s-on phone is what the goal would be, then we are assuming its signed with the same key as the SHIP hboots. If someone could flash it, and the key is the same (I am assuming it is, but may not be) , then it would give you s-off.
Yes, flashed it to radio s-off phones, it works fine, enables all the extended fastboot commands.
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Careful with flashing things like this. Advanced users only please. I can see the newbs going flash crazy. Had anyone flashed yet? Thanks for this jcase. I appreciate you helping out by doing things like this even though you don't have the phone
sent from my cm7 rooted fire
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I tried flashing it with fast boot but it gave me a remote not allowed error.
Thank you jcase for this file.. let's hope someone figures it out
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AFAIK you cannot flash an eng hboot to an S-ON device.
Be careful of flashing this. You can hard brick your phone with hboot. Seen it done on the E3D.
Just throwing that out there.
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Useless post
scrosler said:
AFAIK you cannot flash an eng hboot to an S-ON device.
Be careful of flashing this. You can hard brick your phone with hboot. Seen it done on the E3D.
Just throwing that out there.
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This is incorrect, as long as everything is right signature wise, it won't brick. The problem is actually getting it to flash. However people shouldn't just go around flashing things without knowing what they are doing.
Lots of phones have gotten s-off b/c of an eng hboot, particularly the thunderbolt from us.
Thanks for putting this out there jcase
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If it helps, I could not flash this via fast boot nor in a PH98IMG.zip
dmeadows013 said:
If it helps, I could not flash this via fast boot nor in a PH98IMG.zip
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stock hboot doesnt support flashing hboot throught fastboot
jcase said:
This is incorrect, as long as everything is right signature wise, it won't brick. The problem is actually getting it to flash. However people shouldn't just go around flashing things without knowing what they are doing.
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Thats the point I am making. Know what you are go doing before you do it. And yes you can brick a phone with a a signed eng hboot. I have seen it done on Evo 3D. Either way...
So... How do you flash this to an S-ON device. I would love to have eng hboot.
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Thats the point I am making. Know what you are go doing before you do it. And yes you can brick a phone with a a signed eng hboot. I have seen it done on Evo 3D. Either way...
So... How do you flash this to an S-ON device. I would love to have eng hboot.
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If he knew, he'd of told us, here's to hoping someone finds a way!
cant this be flashed with ADB?? thats how it used to be done on the OG evo i had
Lately I have read many posts with wrong assumptions about S-OFF. I am writing this post in General to clear up to many of you what S-OFF is and isn't.
To start off, S-OFF has nothing to do with your phone being rooted. I've seen people post that S-OFF means a "full" root, or "permanent" root. Those terms aren't even correct, root is just another user on the linux system, and you either have access to it or you don't. Rooting your phone and what that entails is out of the scope of this writeup.
When your device is shipped, your bootloader will show the flag S-ON. This stands for Security-On. What this security does is protect the NAND partitions (ie: the boot partition, the recovery partition, the radio, the system partition...) from being permanently modified at all. Basically, all changes made to these partitions while the phone is running is not permanent, and will be reset upon a reboot. Also, while your phone is S-ON, all firmware zips (ie: PJ75IMG.zip) must be digitally signed by HTC in order to be flashed through the bootloader.
When your device is set to S-OFF, the security is turned off. This allows you to modify any partition on the device, and changes will not be reset upon a reboot. Also, the signature checking of the firmware zips (ie: PJ75IMG.zip) is disabled, allowing users to flash unsigned firmware zips containing the separate images of the partitions. S-OFF gives the user great power over the device, but also comes with much responsibility to be careful.
I have seen many posts stating the term "S-OFF root". As I stated earlier, S-OFF and root are completely different things. When you have S-OFF in the bootloader, you then can flash a package containing Superuser.apk and the su binary, which in turn will give you root in the file system when the device is booted. Again, S-OFF does not mean you have root. You can have S-OFF set (if there was an S-OFF exploit released) on the stock phone running the stock unchanged ROM, and not have root in the file system because you haven't pushed/flashed the Superuser.apk and su binaries on your phone yet.
I have also seen many posts about people not "trusting" the bootloader unlock at HTCdev. Yes, we all know that it does not set the bootloader to S-OFF, but it does unlock the partitions that are needed to flash a custom recovery, and through that flash a custom ROM. This is probably the most trustworthy way to "unlock" the bootloader. Any S-OFF method released here in the future will most likely be a hack to make it work. Imagine if HTC gave out the radio S-OFF unlock. That would mean ANYONE (specifically people who are very flash happy) could find a random radio firmware zip which.. oops.. isn't for the correct device, flash it through the S-OFF bootloader, and brick their device. Releasing the limited unlocking was very smart by HTC, and will definitely save many phones from ending up in the graveyard.
Now I am not saying I do not want S-OFF haha. As a developer, S-OFF is well needed and is extremely useful. It's definitely being worked on. But for the average flasher, (of ROMs, not human parts ) radio S-OFF is not needed.
Hope this clears up confusion about what S-ON and S-OFF is. I will add to this as I feel necessary, and to clear up some of my sentences (Sometimes I start typing before I finish thinking of what I'm going to type).
Thank you.
Thank you soooo much haha so many people were confused about it...
A good example is my moms phone. She has an evo 3d and I made it s-off with eng hboot in case I sell it at a later time. Currently it's not rooted at all, but if I want to considering my bootloader's unlocked I could easily flash a recovery and then flash superuser which in turn gives me root
make the subject a bit more clearer
cuz when i saw it i thought that you had s-off for us lol
please sticky this!
If I may add to this discussion ...
If you do not already know these terms and what they mean you should probably not be attempting to root your phone yet
You should instead invest some time reading and learning first.
Unreasnbl said:
If I may add to this discussion ...
If you do not already know these terms and what they mean you should probably not be attempting to root your phone yet
You should instead invest some time reading and learning first.
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Or, rather, you should not be attempting to gain access to the root user / superuser account and privileges on your phone.
Updated the title just for clarity. If there's anything someone disagrees with or would like to add to the OP, let me know here and I'll see what I can do. And I definitely agree with Unreasnbl. It may be a pain in the a$$ to read before jumping into things, but seriously, it will help so much when it comes understanding.
Unreasnbl said:
If I may add to this discussion ...
If you do not already know these terms and what they mean you should probably not be attempting to root your phone yet
You should instead invest some time reading and learning first.
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I rooted, with S-off, and flashed my phone before I understood any of these terms lol. Just by following instructions clearly.
But then later I learned all of these things.
But yes, you are absolutely correct.
edit: this is a good, valuable post op. Thank you.
arozer said:
I rooted, with S-off, and flashed my phone before I understood any of these terms lol. Just by following instructions clearly.
But then later I learned all of these things.
But yes, you are absolutely correct.
edit: this is a good, valuable post op. Thank you.
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I think you just prooved the OP correct, you shouldn't have S-OFF, because it doesn't exist yet and you don't need it and that's probably good for person that thinks they rooted with S-off.
Thank you
Thank you for the great info! While not a noob(have had rooted, s-off OG 4G, and 3D, just rooted EVO LTE), I don't understand, nor want to, at an advanced level, Linux, ADB,FASTBOOT, etc. I like making my phone my own, and like flashing ROM's. I tried to use the HTC method of unlocking, but am just not comfortable with my skills to try and use SDK/ADB/FASTBOOT. Perhaps I can find someone in San Antonio to show me, but unless/until, I'll wait for someone such as yourself to provide a "dumbed-down" method. Again, thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise.
Update: Couldn't stand it..went ahead, carefully reading and following instructions, and did HTC unlock. Had a few issues with TWRP, and flashing ViperROM, due to internal/sd configuration, but moved things to their proper place with ROM toolbox. Everything in it's place, and my phone running like I like it for almost 24 hours with no issues, other than the hilarious HTC warning at boot screen.
Thanks regaw for taking your time with this. If you don't end up with 500 thanks ill be shocked lol
I personally want S-Off.
Mainly because I prefer not notify HTC that I'm unlocked.
Occasionally it's fun to dabble in trying newer radios and is sometimes required for later releases of the OS. Radio firmware can add or take away some functionality as well (like VPN).
Yes, we know it's dangerous, it's pretty rare folks dork their phones because they had s-off. But one of the worst examples is the flash happy folks on the EVO 3D that flashed Virgin Mobile firmware and should not have (myself included).
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dongarritas said:
Thank you for the great info! While not a noob(have had rooted, s-off OG 4G, and 3D, just rooted EVO LTE), I don't understand, nor want to, at an advanced level, Linux, ADB,FASTBOOT, etc. I like making my phone my own, and like flashing ROM's. I tried to use the HTC method of unlocking, but am just not comfortable with my skills to try and use SDK/ADB/FASTBOOT. Perhaps I can find someone in San Antonio to show me, but unless/until, I'll wait for someone such as yourself to provide a "dumbed-down" method. Again, thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise.
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It's really not that hard. No harder than figuring out how to use recovery, bootloader etc.. The current root procedure you just did on the LTE used ADB !! Just follow procedures.
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If I may add to this discussion ...
If you do not already know these terms and what they mean you should probably not be attempting to root your phone yet
You should instead invest some time reading and learning first.
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Maybe you could direct them to some good reading material -- like the first post.
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Great thread, Daniel.
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
mswlogo said:
I think you just prooved the OP correct, you shouldn't have S-OFF, because it doesn't exist yet and you don't need it and that's probably good for person that thinks they rooted with S-off.
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Nice try at being a smart ass bro, but I was talking about when I first started, on the htc Evo 4G.
Before that I had the incredible and droid 1 and I just used the one click roots.
Great post. I don't like it when people use the incorrect terms either, and have made similar posts on other forums, specifically relating to the OG. I usually recommend that noobs that "want to root" use the HTC unlocker because, as you pointed out, it's a safer solution for those that don't really know what they're doing.
Unfortunately, because that process is somewhat involved, many users new to Android or just not technically inclined prefer to use what this community has to offer. That's good, I suppose, as that's one of the reasons this community exists, but I strongly feel like it takes away some user responsibility to get to know their device. If people would take the time to learn about adb and fastboot and find out what an RUU is and what the /misc partition is, I feel like there would a lot more contributors on this forum than whining leechers.
I've personally never been one to follow instructions without first at least trying to understand what I'm doing, but I guess not everyone is like that.
At any rate, thanks for the post, and I'm sure I'll see everyone around a bit more once Amazon finally delivers my phone.
Very informational.But just to clarify:
If I were to have S-OFF, I can repartition the onboard storage so that instead of having 2gb of app storage, I can have say 6 or 10gb? That's what I really want to do.
Thanks for clarifying this OP. I personally knew what S-OFF meant but alot of folks on this phone are obviously new to roooting and had no idea about any of this.
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Thank you for the clarification
OK, so I bought the Rezound used and already rooted, I have just flashed viper 1.0.3 but my radios dont match up with the latest ones and I'm not sure if that might help battery life. The phone has AmonRu, sorry if this is covered somewhere... I searched and didnt come up with anything
also current baseband version is 1.22.10.0310r, 1.22.10.0308r
u didn't search well enough cause you're new. learn to search better before you get flamed and ignored. if you knew anything about Android you'd know that only the latest ruu could upgrade your radios since you're s-on
yes run a RUU
dyetheskin said:
u didn't search well enough cause you're new. learn to search better before you get flamed and ignored. if you knew anything about Android you'd know that only the latest ruu could upgrade your radios since you're s-on
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It's just different from other androids (D1, D2) and even the other HTC's I've had (Incredible and Thunderbolt). So, I'd need to flash the latest RUU to get the radios, but can i do that with the amon recovery ? And if so, does the latest RUU break root? Like I said the guy I bought it from rooted it, he said he used htc dev tool to root it.
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It's just different from other androids (D1, D2) and even the other HTC's I've had (Incredible and Thunderbolt). So, I'd need to flash the latest RUU to get the radios, but can i do that with the amon recovery ? And if so, does the latest RUU break root? Like I said the guy I bought it from rooted it, he said he used htc dev tool to root it.
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You should do a little research before you attempt anything. Basically, you'll need to relock the boot loader using htcdev tool which is simple to do if you follow directions. Then you'll download the latest RUU and place it on the root of your SD card and then boot into the boot loader by powering the phone down and holding vol down and power. Then it will prompt for the update-choose yes. Once update is done you'll be completely stock and you'll need to unlock again with htcdev and install a custom recovery again. After that you can root again and flash ROMs. Sounds complicated, but if you plan to tinker with this phone these are MUST LEARN procedures.
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u didn't search well enough cause you're new. learn to search better before you get flamed and ignored. if you knew anything about Android you'd know that only the latest ruu could upgrade your radios since you're s-on
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Can't you tell from this post that XDA is just a warm, welcoming community geared towards helping people?
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localceleb said:
You should do a little research before you attempt anything. Basically, you'll need to relock the boot loader using htcdev tool which is simple to do if you follow directions. Then you'll download the latest RUU and place it on the root of your SD card and then boot into the boot loader by powering the phone down and holding vol down and power. Then it will prompt for the update-choose yes. Once update is done you'll be completely stock and you'll need to unlock again with htcdev and install a custom recovery again. After that you can root again and flash ROMs. Sounds complicated, but if you plan to tinker with this phone these are MUST LEARN procedures.
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In a nutshell, a good description of what to do. Kudos, localceleb for actually answering the question without making the OP feel unwelcome.
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Can't you tell from this post that XDA is just a warm, welcoming community geared towards helping people?
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In a nutshell, a good description of what to do. Kudos, localceleb for actually answering the question without making the OP feel unwelcome.
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Yeah, I could feel the love so much I got goosebumps. One question is will I have any problems relocking the bootloader with viper rom installed or do i need to relock and immediately flash the img.zip for the ruu ?
Why wouldn't you just run the S-Off and not have to worry about things like this? I just find it amazing that people will go through the headache of unlocking their bootloader but not do the S-Off routine.
*Madmoose* said:
Why wouldn't you just run the S-Off and not have to worry about things like this? I just find it amazing that people will go through the headache of unlocking their bootloader but not do the S-Off routine.
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S-off looks like it isnt as easy as it used to be, and cant get back from it in case of a warranty return
eric90gt said:
S-off looks like it isnt as easy as it used to be, and cant get back from it in case of a warranty return
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You can get back to s-on
eric90gt said:
S-off looks like it isnt as easy as it used to be, and cant get back from it in case of a warranty return
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It's still fairly easy. Once I got the right kind of wire (speaker wire instead of a paperclip), it literally took just a few minutes to complete it. Got the timing right on the first try with the right wire.
And like Ashton said, you can return to S-On.
Yeah, s-off is truly easy. I know it seems intimidating and complicated, but 95% of the process is automated scripts. Once again, if you follow directions and take your time, its easy. I was surprised at how easy it was once I've completed it. Now I've done the process 5+ times and it takes less than 3 minutes from start to finish.
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Make your the RUU is a zip and name it PH98IMG. S-OFF seems complicated, but it's not all you have to do is make sure you are rooted and have dev unlocked your phone run ControlBear and do the wire trick when told to. If you fail just leave the phone alone and close/open ControlBear again and keep trying.
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Yeah, s-off is truly easy. I know it seems intimidating and complicated, but 95% of the process is automated scripts. Once again, if you follow directions and take your time, its easy. I was surprised at how easy it was once I've completed it. Now I've done the process 5+ times and it takes less than 3 minutes from start to finish.
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I will say it was a giant pain in the ass for me. I followed the timing and was pretty careful about it but it just didn't work. I was using a paperclip (uninsulated) so maybe that's why, but I eventually just spammed the other terminal and one of those times it took. haha
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I will say it was a giant pain in the ass for me. I followed the timing and was pretty careful about it but it just didn't work. I was using a paperclip (uninsulated) so maybe that's why, but I eventually just spammed the other terminal and one of those times it took. haha
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I got it to almost work only once with a paperclip. It failed at the end though (gave still sober message). After about 20-30 minutes of fiddling with it... I got sick of it. Took off one of the wires from my home theatre (18 guage probably, and ~25 ft lol), and used that. Worked the first try lol.. So yeah, been recommending actual wire rather than paperclips if possible.
I am the cause of this problem, and hope someone can help to extricate me.
I bought my Rezound in April, excited that ICS was coming. I soon found the leaked ICS 4.0.3/Sense 3.6 and installed the leak, and have been (largely) happily enjoying it. There have been some small issues, and when I read that Verizon was finally sending ICS out to the Rezound, I checked and found that I couldn't get it unless my phone was put back to GB. That's when the problem started.
I've tried numerous ROMs, but really don't know what I'm doing, and after almost 20 hours of reading the various posts and searches, am no farther to a resolution than where I started yesterday.
The phone, no matter what I try to load, boots fine until it hits the 4G LTE screen and then freezes. Here's the HBOOT/FASTBOOT screen:
*** LOCKED ***
VIGOR PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.27.0000
RADIO-2.22.10.0801r/2.22.10.0803r
OpenDSP--v14.6.0.7708.00.0507
eMMC-boot
Aug 6 2012,19:24:37
I would love to get it whole enough to receive OTAs, but would be happy to get back where I started. Can someone help me please?
gandroid2 said:
I am the cause of this problem, and hope someone can help to extricate me.
I bought my Rezound in April, excited that ICS was coming. I soon found the leaked ICS 4.0.3/Sense 3.6 and installed the leak, and have been (largely) happily enjoying it. There have been some small issues, and when I read that Verizon was finally sending ICS out to the Rezound, I checked and found that I couldn't get it unless my phone was put back to GB. That's when the problem started.
I've tried numerous ROMs, but really don't know what I'm doing, and after almost 20 hours of reading the various posts and searches, am no farther to a resolution than where I started yesterday.
The phone, no matter what I try to load, boots fine until it hits the 4G LTE screen and then freezes. Here's the HBOOT/FASTBOOT screen:
*** LOCKED ***
VIGOR PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.27.0000
RADIO-2.22.10.0801r/2.22.10.0803r
OpenDSP--v14.6.0.7708.00.0507
eMMC-boot
Aug 6 2012,19:24:37
I would love to get it whole enough to receive OTAs, but would be happy to get back where I started. Can someone help me please?
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Someone more knowledgeable may correct me, but HBOOT 2.27 & 2.22 radios are the newest version. So you're already upgraded to the newest stuff. Try installing an AOSP or ICS ROM and see if that works.
I made progress?
d.kozzer said:
Someone more knowledgeable may correct me, but HBOOT 2.27 & 2.22 radios are the newest version. So you're already upgraded to the newest stuff. Try installing an AOSP or ICS ROM and see if that works.
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Thank you, that's actually more good news than I expected!
I have lost total confidence in any knowledge I thought I had. If someone could give me 1st grader level guidance toward installing an AOSP or ICS ROM, I would be most appreciative.
gandroid2 said:
Thank you, that's actually more good news than I expected!
I have lost total confidence in any knowledge I thought I had. If someone could give me 1st grader level guidance toward installing an AOSP or ICS ROM, I would be most appreciative.
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It's easy.... if you like AOSP/CM9, I'd recommend the "le n00b" ROM in the dev section. If you like Sense 3.6, try Vigor360. If you like Sense 4, I really liked ViperRom. Just go to the OP of any thread for those, download the newest version to a PC or onto your SD card.
Then, go check out Scotty's noob friendly guide to rooting on AndroidForums (there might be an equivelent thread here, but I used this guide). I recommend using Amon Ra as your recovery, which is linked toward the top of the first post.
gandroid2 said:
Thank you, that's actually more good news than I expected!
I have lost total confidence in any knowledge I thought I had. If someone could give me 1st grader level guidance toward installing an AOSP or ICS ROM, I would be most appreciative.
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if you want to go aosp you will need to s-off the phone to get there.
but you are on the latest update. you can only run roms built off the global ruu such as:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1852119
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1860632
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1855605
to flash said roms you will need to htc dev unlock and then flash a recovery and then you can do any of the three roms above. if you want to be on a rom that is build off an older release you will need to s-off the phone.
d.kozzer said:
It's easy.... if you like AOSP/CM9, I'd recommend the "le n00b" ROM in the dev section. If you like Sense 3.6, try Vigor360. If you like Sense 4, I really liked ViperRom. Just go to the OP of any thread for those, download the newest version to a PC or onto your SD card.
Then, go check out...QUOTE]
Thanks a bunch. I've opened Scotty's guide to read next, and have downloaded Amon Ra (recovery-ra-vigor-3.15-gnm.img.zip). I've looked up some comparisons between Sense 3 & 4, which should help me make an informed decision. Thanks again for the guidance and suggestions.
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synisterwolf said:
if you want to go aosp you will need to s-off the phone to get there.
but you are on the latest update. you can only run roms built off the global ruu such as:
to flash said roms you will need to htc dev unlock and then flash a recovery and then you can do any of the three roms above. if you want to be on a rom that is build off an older release you will need to s-off the phone.
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Thanks synisterwolf.
I'll look at the roms you recommended and appreciate the information and wisdom you shared.
I'll also check out the organizations listed in your signature.
Thanks again.
I would use hasoons toolkit to unlock and install amon ra. The 4.03.605.2 RUU runs smooth and quick.
gandroid2 said:
d.kozzer said:
It's easy.... if you like AOSP/CM9, I'd recommend the "le n00b" ROM in the dev section. If you like Sense 3.6, try Vigor360. If you like Sense 4, I really liked ViperRom. Just go to the OP of any thread for those, download the newest version to a PC or onto your SD card.
Then, go check out...QUOTE]
Thanks a bunch. I've opened Scotty's guide to read next, and have downloaded Amon Ra (recovery-ra-vigor-3.15-gnm.img.zip). I've looked up some comparisons between Sense 3 & 4, which should help me make an informed decision. Thanks again for the guidance and suggestions.
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Unfortunately, Scotty's guide won't work for me, as its unlock with htcdev section requires the Rezound to connect to my PC via usb, but the phone's somewhat bricked, locking up at the 4G LTE screen and won't connect.
I would surely appreciate other suggestions. Plemelin recommended hasoons toolkit, and I will look at it now.
Thanks again.
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plemelin said:
I would use hasoons toolkit to unlock and install amon ra. The 4.03.605.2 RUU runs smooth and quick.
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Thank you. I'm looking at it next.
plemelin said:
I would use hasoons toolkit to unlock and install amon ra. The 4.03.605.2 RUU runs smooth and quick.
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Yeah, this is a good tool too.
gandroid2 said:
Thank you. I'm looking at it next.
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For Scotty's guide, you're clearly on the HTC Unlock stage,maybe you should find the latest RUU and flash that? It'll have all parts of the phone's system (ROM, bootloader, recovery, radios, etc), so you'll have a clean phone (meaning all data will be wiped), and all the different pieces will work together and you should be able to boot into the stock ROM, then follow the guide from there starting with the HTC unlock. I think where you were at in post #1, you had all the ICS/global firmware but were trying to boot a gingerbread ROM which will fail every time. If you use an RUU, everything will be in sync.
d.kozzer said:
Yeah, this is a good tool too.
For Scotty's guide, you're clearly on the HTC Unlock stage,maybe you should find the latest RUU and flash that? It'll have all parts of the phone's system (ROM, bootloader, recovery, radios, etc), so you'll have a clean phone (meaning all data will be wiped), and all the different pieces will work together and you should be able to boot into the stock ROM, then follow the guide from there starting with the HTC unlock. I think where you were at in post #1, you had all the ICS/global firmware but were trying to boot a gingerbread ROM which will fail every time. If you use an RUU, everything will be in sync.
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Nice,that's the original version which started this journey. I had downloaded it prior to starting all this, and messed up my Rezound by not doing it correctly. Now it's the one which (finally) worked. I don't know how it worked, unfortunately, as it didn't work exactly like Scotty told me it would, and the first few times I tried to install it were unsuccessful also.
Thanks again.
It's alive!
Thank you all for your help. Your replies encouraged me and directed me toward the solution.
Scotty's guide worked, although not exactly like it said it would. I now have the version I originally wanted, and it all works, except for the SU.
I installed CWM-SuperSU-v0.96.zip per Scotty, but I have don't have the SU ability. Undoubtedly did something wrong.
Thanks again.
gandroid2 said:
Thank you all for your help. Your replies encouraged me and directed me toward the solution.
Scotty's guide worked, although not exactly like it said it would. I now have the version I originally wanted, and it all works, except for the SU.
I installed CWM-SuperSU-v0.96.zip per Scotty, but I have don't have the SU ability. Undoubtedly did something wrong.
Thanks again.
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Glad to help!
If you're using SU, then open up the app by going into the app drawer and see if there's a way for you to "update the binary". The binary is the meat and bones of the superuser app, and for some reason it's not working well out of the box on some roms, and you need to update it to get it working.
d.kozzer said:
Glad to help!
If you're using SU, then open up the app by going into the app drawer and see if there's a way for you to "update the binary". The binary is the meat and bones of the superuser app, and for some reason it's not working well out of the box on some roms, and you need to update it to get it working.
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Apparently I'm not using SU after all.I tried to update with superuser and it "Failed to find currently installed su binary". I also opened Titanium Backup and it couldn't acquire root privileges. I missed something...
Hello all,
Just a quick question, I google'd around a bit with no solid answer. What's the deal with Hboots? Do you need a certain version to run a certain version of AOS? from what I could tell it sounds like toy need the 2.09 or above hboot to run JB. this true? I'm on 1.12 Hboot, stock rooted rom, S-on with TWRP recovery and going for s-off, but apparently need to update my hboot to do so. Is there an Hboot that is more desirable than another? are there still ENG bootloaders out there? Just dont wana bork my phone or myself with this last step.. sheesh, when did rooting get so complicated? Thanks in advance
9X
They have progressively become stricter. Each time a new hboot is released its due to changes made. Patching exploits, adding support for changes in hardware, little things like that. 1.12 was relatively open, 1.15 removed access to areas of the boot partition requiring kernels to be flashed differently, not too sure what 1.19 changed if anything, 2.09 removes r/w access to your system so any changes to system will revert upon reboot.
x9x0 said:
Hello all,
Just a quick question, I google'd around a bit with no solid answer. What's the deal with Hboots? Do you need a certain version to run a certain version of AOS? from what I could tell it sounds like toy need the 2.09 or above hboot to run JB. this true? I'm on 1.12 Hboot, stock rooted rom, S-on with TWRP recovery and going for s-off, but apparently need to update my hboot to do so. Is there an Hboot that is more desirable than another? are there still ENG bootloaders out there? Just dont wana bork my phone or myself with this last step.. sheesh, when did rooting get so complicated? Thanks in advance
9X
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You only have to update your HBOOT to get S-OFF because the tool to S-OFF the 1.12 HBOOT is no longer supported. After that, there's no reason to touch your HBOOT.
is there a "best" hboot? as in enables the most hardware / most bug fixes / still exploitable?
x9x0 said:
is there a "best" hboot? as in enables the most hardware / most bug fixes / still exploitable?
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No. They're all S-OFF-able at this point. Just stick with the DirtyRacun HBOOT you get after S-OFF is complete and you'll be fine.
And why is s-off for 1.12 no longer supported? If it's not detrimental anyone know how I can s-off it?
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And why is s-off for 1.12 no longer supported? If it's not detrimental anyone know how I can s-off it?
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Because Team Unlimited isn't supporting it anymore. Because it's a simple matter to RUU to a newer version and S-OFF it. There's no reason not to - I don't understand your hesitation.
Just dont want a newer more restrictive hboot period. but here goes 1.15
x9x0 said:
Just dont want a newer more restrictive hboot period. but here goes 1.15
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Once you're S-OFF, it doesn't matter. Restrictions are all removed.
x9x0 said:
Just dont want a newer more restrictive hboot period. but here goes 1.15
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The restrictions of Hboot are gone once you're S-off. It's just a number afterwards.
This is regardless of what Hboot you're on
Edit: Captain beat me to it. Hopefully you get the point now
The advice is free....the bandwidth, not so much
FinZ28 said:
The restrictions of Hboot are gone once you're S-off. It's just a number afterwards.
This is regardless of what Hboot you're on
Edit: Captain beat me to it. Hopefully you get the point now
The advice is free....the bandwidth, not so much
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Not exactly - the stock HBOOTs don't have fastboot commands enabled unless they're unlocked. So while you have the freedom to flash whatever HBOOT you want, it's still best to have one of the DirtyRacun modded HBOOTs to get the full benefit.
Captain_Throwback said:
Not exactly - the stock HBOOTs don't have fastboot commands enabled unless they're unlocked. So while you have the freedom to flash whatever HBOOT you want, it's still best to have one of the DirtyRacun modded HBOOTs to get the full benefit.
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Very true.
+1 for Captain Throwback.
The advice is free....the bandwidth, not so much
hboot 1.15 s-off completed, thanks guys... just didnt want to do something i was going to regret.
Who on earth would regret soff?
om4 said:
Who on earth would regret soff?
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Someone who bricked their device because they flashed something they could, but shouldn't have . . . . I will say, there are probably some people that shouldn't S-OFF, just because they'll find a way to break stuff. But I would hope those people don't frequent this forum (though I'd probably be wrong . . . )
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Someone who bricked their device because they flashed something they could, but shouldn't have . . . . I will say, there are probably some people that shouldn't S-OFF, just because they'll find a way to break stuff. But I would hope those people don't frequent this forum (though I'd probably be wrong . . . )
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You know better than that
The advice is free....the bandwidth, not so much
Well it seems everybody has had that sort of day even with s-on, at least in this forum. Most of the time it's hardly ever been device wrecking. There was a time when my inbox would flood lol
om4 said:
Well it seems everybody has had that sort of day even with s-on, at least in this forum. Most of the time it's hardly ever been device wrecking. There was a time when my inbox would flood lol
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Thank God for devs
The advice is free....the bandwidth, not so much
Just didnt want to lockout or loose options. when I started doing this, it was easy to update to a version that sucked, in the process of trying to root or s-off and sometimes there was no way back, you were essentially stuck in limbo. That being said, I've rooted a LOT of phones for my self and other people, and never once bricked a phone. Not to say I havent been in no mans land where 90% of the people out there would call it bricked. Had more than a few looooong night undoing experiments gone bad. Although the victory of escaping brick-dom is super sweet, I Just dont have time right now to visit no mans land, reflow, jtag/reflash again. seems that now the devs have made this pretty much idiot proof, Incredible how far things have come.
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Just didnt want to lockout or loose options. when I started doing this, it was easy to update to a version that sucked, in the process of trying to root or s-off and sometimes there was no way back, you were essentially stuck in limbo. That being said, I've rooted a LOT of phones for my self and other people, and never once bricked a phone. Not to say I havent been in no mans land where 90% of the people out there would call it bricked. Had more than a few looooong night undoing experiments gone bad. Although the victory of escaping brick-dom is super sweet, I Just dont have time right now to visit no mans land, reflow, jtag/reflash again. seems that now the devs have made this pretty much idiot proof, Incredible how far things have come.
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Tell me about it. I took my son's OG EVO out last week and finally got S-off via Revolutionary. For $hits and giggles I even got my old Hero out and got it S-off, too. Probably the easiest phone I've done yet-just had to flash a zip file in recovery
The advice is free....the bandwidth, not so much