Im on the latest bionix with voodoo enabled but i don't oc to 1.2. I let it be at 1ghz. The only thing that polls data in the background is noled for onscreen notifications, beejive, tweetdeck polls every 6 minutes and screen brightness is at auto. Im at a loss. My battery stats aren't giving me any specific info at all. Any ideas as to what can be murdering my battery?
Even if i don't touch my phone for a whole hour i still drop 10-15%!!!
Any advice?
Running 1.5 Bionix here. [email protected] 1.2 and I'm getting great battery life. I have lots things going most of the time, though if I'm not doing anything I try to kill the background apps when I think about it.
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sheek360 said:
Im on the latest bionix with voodoo enabled but i don't oc to 1.2. I let it be at 1ghz. The only thing that polls data in the background is noled for onscreen notifications, beejive, tweetdeck polls every 6 minutes and screen brightness is at auto. Im at a loss. My battery stats aren't giving me any specific info at all. Any ideas as to what can be murdering my battery?
Even if i don't touch my phone for a whole hour i still drop 10-15%!!!
Any advice?
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I am in the same boat, but I have mine o/c to 1.2.
I get 17 hours on a full charge with Bionix 1.5
Make sure you have reconditioned your battery
Turn OFF "Auto Brightness" (It just runs an extra process witch uses more battery)
Turn OFF "Power saving mode" (It just runs an extra process witch uses more battery)
Also, You aren't telling us what you are doing.. Are you streaming music via Pandora or something?!
Leave the phone in 2G Only unless you are surfing the web or streaming music.
Master™ said:
I get 17 hours on a full charge with Bionix 1.5
Make sure you have reconditioned your battery
Turn OFF "Auto Brightness" (It just runs an extra process witch uses more battery)
Turn OFF "Power saving mode" (It just runs an extra process witch uses more battery)
Also, You aren't telling us what you are doing.. Are you streaming music via Pandora or something?!
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I don't stream music. I do use tweetdeck a lot. Maybe twice an hour. I wonder if its the noLED app or if voodoo is killing me
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I don't stream music. I do use tweetdeck a lot. Maybe twice an hour. I wonder if its the noLED app or if voodoo is killing me
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Yeah but did you Recondition your battery & turn off the two other things?
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Yeah but did you Recondition your battery & turn off the two other things?
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All off. But how do i recondition battery?
sheek360 said:
Im on the latest bionix with voodoo enabled but i don't oc to 1.2. I let it be at 1ghz. The only thing that polls data in the background is noled for onscreen notifications, beejive, tweetdeck polls every 6 minutes and screen brightness is at auto. Im at a loss. My battery stats aren't giving me any specific info at all. Any ideas as to what can be murdering my battery?
Even if i don't touch my phone for a whole hour i still drop 10-15%!!!
Any advice?
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Well....I'd wager the following...
- NoLed. How much battery it uses depends on how long you leave notifications un-noticed. The longer you delay checking, the longer the screen process is on.
- Beejive (it's battery suckage will go down drastically when we get 2.2, as it will then use Google's push api instead of deliberately staying alive all the time)
- Tweetdeck every 6 minutes? If you check it twice an hour as you say....up it's poll to every 30 minutes
- Screen brightness to AUTO. It takes a flick of your finger to change brightness manually. Auto is convenient, but generally wastes battery adjusting itself in my experience.
NoLED and Beejive are probably your biggest culprits...
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Well....I'd wager the following...
- NoLed. How much battery it uses depends on how long you leave notifications un-noticed. The longer you delay checking, the longer the screen process is on.
- Beejive (it's battery suckage will go down drastically when we get 2.2, as it will then use Google's push api instead of deliberately staying alive all the time)
- Tweetdeck every 6 minutes? If you check it twice an hour as you say....up it's poll to every 30 minutes
- Screen brightness to AUTO. It takes a flick of your finger to change brightness manually. Auto is convenient, but generally wastes battery adjusting itself in my experience.
NoLED and Beejive are probably your biggest culprits...
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Thanks for your input. I appreciate it
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Well....I'd wager the following...
- NoLed. How much battery it uses depends on how long you leave notifications un-noticed. The longer you delay checking, the longer the screen process is on.
- Beejive (it's battery suckage will go down drastically when we get 2.2, as it will then use Google's push api instead of deliberately staying alive all the time)
- Tweetdeck every 6 minutes? If you check it twice an hour as you say....up it's poll to every 30 minutes
- Screen brightness to AUTO. It takes a flick of your finger to change brightness manually. Auto is convenient, but generally wastes battery adjusting itself in my experience.
NoLED and Beejive are probably your biggest culprits...
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i only use beejive for gtalk, think ill be better off with the stock android gtalk app instead?
i drained the battery completely and its charging now, itll get a whole nights charge. ill report tomorrow with my results.
btw, does the lag fix take up any battery?
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All off. But how do i recondition battery?
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Look it up, I'm tired of explaining it
sheek360 said:
Im on the latest bionix with voodoo enabled but i don't oc to 1.2. I let it be at 1ghz. The only thing that polls data in the background is noled for onscreen notifications, beejive, tweetdeck polls every 6 minutes and screen brightness is at auto. Im at a loss. My battery stats aren't giving me any specific info at all. Any ideas as to what can be murdering my battery?
Even if i don't touch my phone for a whole hour i still drop 10-15%!!!
Any advice?
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remove beejive and install trillian and set it to save battery mode. or if you want to find out what is causing the battery drain, uninstall all apps that polls or runs in the background and put one back at a time. this will tell you which app is actually draining the battery. From my own experience, I'm pretty sure beejive is the one draining the most.
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No need to look it up: There's no such thing as "reconditioning" Li-on batteries. That's not how they work. The closest you can get is a full discharge, which will recalibrate the monitor, but does not affect battery life.
These things can use less than that? LOL
I'm running bionix 1.5 no voodoo. Oc to 1.2 but profiled to drop MHz depending. I don't social network so that helps. But I do surf and game heavy enuf to justify the 3 batteries I have.
I'm not sure why ppl buy phones with the power of a computer and high-def monitor combined and a battery that weighs 10 grams and have issues with battery life. They are $5 each from Hong Kong just get 3 with a charger for 20$ and call it good.
Texted While Driving
so after 2 hours; i have lost 25% battery. had a 20 minute convo on speaker, 10-15 texts, no web browsing.
seems like beejive was the culprit. i removed it and noLED
sheek360 said:
so after 2 hours; i have lost 25% battery. had a 20 minute convo on speaker, 10-15 texts, no web browsing.
seems like beejive was the culprit. i removed it and noLED
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just got a reply from beejive support. since im on 2.1 it isnt using the android push api. after about 6 hours im down to 49%. all in all, im happy. yesterday all it took to get me to 50% was about 2 hours. also, i reinstalled noLED and have it set to only run when I am in silent or vibrator modes. i also set the notification to run for the max of 5 minutes.
as for the voodoo lagfix, does anyone know if it uses up a lot of battery?
I have at one point of time used Bionix 1.3 with Voodoo and then without Voodoo. Didnt notice a difference in battery life. But I did notice that battery drains quicker when I replaced stock with Bionix ROM, voodoo disabled or enabled.
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I have at one point of time used Bionix 1.3 with Voodoo and then without Voodoo. Didnt notice a difference in battery life. But I did notice that battery drains quicker when I replaced stock with Bionix ROM, voodoo disabled or enabled.
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Thanks for the info. Know that you mention it, stock ji6 was betterbon battery life...
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Hey everyone,
Ive head nothing but raving about the App Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice. Im personally having really bad battery life on my vibrant, and seems everyone is recommend this app. Im not running OCed, currently using Voodoo, have cycled battery recently, and I get around 6-8 hours on a battery. Although I know i'm somewhat of a high powered user, I think I should be getting better.
What is everyone using for settings in Juice Defender for settings, and is it really helping your battery life?
Thanks!
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Hey everyone,
Ive head nothing but raving about the App Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice. Im personally having really bad battery life on my vibrant, and seems everyone is recommend this app. Im not running OCed, currently using Voodoo, have cycled battery recently, and I get around 6-8 hours on a battery. Although I know i'm somewhat of a high powered user, I think I should be getting better.
What is everyone using for settings in Juice Defender for settings, and is it really helping your battery life?
Thanks!
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I would also like to know this??
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I would also like to know this??
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Sorry to semi-thread jack... But from what i understand, one of the main features of juice-defender is that when your screen is off, so is mobile data. I used google voice for all of my sms, would they still come through if there was mobile data off?
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Sorry to semi-thread jack... But from what i understand, one of the main features of juice-defender is that when your screen is off, so is mobile data. I used google voice for all of my sms, would they still come through if there was mobile data off?
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No because GV uses data
Juice Defender will definitely save you battery, but it depends what type of user you are.
I used to love this app. It was one of my top 3 apps and I recommended this app to everyone I knew. It saved me a few hours of battery life with the default settings. But one day I decided to turn it off to see how my phone would preform. I noticed that JD slows down my phone (not too much, but since I play with my phone a lot, I do notice a difference). I kinda figured this since every time I turned my screen on, it would have to reconnect itself to 3G. It got a bit of annoying, but I'm pretty sure it won't bug that many people.
Now, my friend uses this app as well, and he gets amazing battery life with JD enabled. He only turns on his phone when he needs to (check email, responds to text, picks up a call, etc.)
So for the past month or so, I have stopped using JD. I'm the type of guy that touches my phone every 30 min or so. I like turn it on and mess with it just for the hell of it. So if you're like me, then I do not recommend this app, since you will notice a slight lag after turning the screen on with JD enabled.
Now if you're at work and only check your phone when you have to, then I highly recommend this app. It will definitely save you battery life. Don't know too much about the settings since I haven't touched it in awhile, but I mainly left it at the default settings.
Another tip that I noticed that saves battery is orientation. Ever since I disabled it in settings, I do notice a battery increase (I'm guessing the sensors are not always on causing it to save more battery?) Hope this little review helps zimp.
You can set it to turn on every 15 mins or whatever so you can still get your messages. I didn't like how it keep turn off my data every time the screen turned off even if it was only for a sec. I'm not convined that continually turn data on/off improves battery. If you leave phone on stand by for several hours then maybe, but I don't think a.power user gets much benefit from it. Also it is always running in the background so just having a widget to switch to plane mode might work better for you.
I actually used both and ended up uninstalling.. didn't really see much of a difference. look at my mods on my signature.. those nearly doubled it. i used juice plotter to graph the difference. that and I manually disable mobile and wifi with the power widgets. ya i spend a second pressing the button but works out better that way for me. so save the money and just disable it yourself.
also that when you use defender it takes a while for the data to turn back on when you open the screen compared to using the widget.
in short defender is basically you using the widgets but it does it automatically. BUT you are using an app to run all the time in the backround and that itself uses battery life... when i went to bed and turned off mobile and wifi. with my mod i didnt not lose 1% for those 8 hrs.. and went a full 24 hrs with no recharge..
i also have no task manager or cache cleaner.
real battery life depends on MOD, kernel, radio, and how you use it. these apps in my opinion are a waste. but it's up to you ...
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I actually used both and ended up uninstalling.. didn't really see much of a difference. look at my mods on my signature.. those nearly doubled it. i used juice plotter to graph the difference. that and I manually disable mobile and wifi with the power widgets. ya i spend a second pressing the button but works out better that way for me. so save the money and just disable it yourself.
also that when you use defender it takes a while for the data to turn back on when you open the screen compared to using the widget.
in short defender is basically you using the widgets but it does it automatically. BUT you are using an app to run all the time in the backround and that itself uses battery life... when i went to bed and turned off mobile and wifi. with my mod i didnt not lose 1% for those 8 hrs.. and went a full 24 hrs with no recharge..
i also have no task manager or cache cleaner.
real battery life depends on MOD, kernel, radio, and how you use it. these apps in my opinion are a waste. but it's up to you ...
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I am using Bionix 1.3 with KingKlick and I have been using it pretty heavily all day and I have about 75% left on battery (It's 5:30 PM right now)
I noticed way better battery life after uninstalling this app. At night, my battery would make it through with just 10% without changing, and half way through the next day. With JD, my battery dropped down to 2% when I would wake up.
Not for me.
To op, I used Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice and noticed it would slow my phone down and I would miss syncs and my information would go out of wack. I found the best way to conserve battery as an overuser is to turn off 3g. I use 2g 3g switcher. It allows you to switch between 3g and 2g. I gained at least 6 more hours on a full charge by turning it on only when I need the 3g speeds. Ie: downloading and surfing the net. For everything else Edge was more than enough. I went from roughly 12 hours medium-heavy use to 20-24. I'm also using Jac's uv voodoo kernel and vibrant 9.
I hope this helps,
Russ
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I noticed way better battery life after uninstalling this app. At night, my battery would make it through with just 10% without changing, and half way through the next day. With JD, my battery dropped down to 2% when I would wake up.
Not for me.
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Agreed, I noticed an increase in battery life after uninstalling jd.
I did get better batery life after installing JAC's kernel (with undervolting) on top of bionix 1.3. I did not oc, yet. I read in the op you use vodoo, there is a JAC's kernel with voodoo written in with it now, but the process from going from your stock with voodoo to a new kernel with voodoo is admittedly beyond my experience level to talk about. That might garner some research on your part. The undervolting written into the kernel does extend battery life, I've been off my charger since about 9 this morning, normal to heavy use, currently at 43 percent battery left.
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use Tasker app. much better then JuiceDefender and much more options.....pretty much endless options. and it also supports all Locale Plug-ins.
Thanks for the recommendations! Interesting that so many of you actually had worse battery life after using it. May try it for another day and see how it works out.
Regarding the voodoo, I am still testing to see if voodoo uses more power or not. Theoretically it shouldn't, but who knows. its extremely easy to enable\disable voodoo, so easy that its worth keeping even if you keep it disabled, as its the same kernel as JAC's UV but + voodoo.
Appreciate the responses. I will play w/ JD for another day or so, will try tasker, adn see which has the best results.
To those that were worried about syncs like Voice, Emails, tweets, etc, its really easy to set it up so that those processes arent interrupted, especially w/ the ultimatejuice. I have it set up so it still syncs and background data apps like pandora work fine, just interested in everyones experience
Zim, I was having battery drain issues with jac's oc-uv kernel until I did the cycle/reset batt stats. Not I am getting GREAT battery life! You prolly already tried it but if not give it a shot.
Juice Defender has increased my battery life by x2.22...........really remarkable this program is!
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I am using Bionix 1.3 with KingKlick and I have been using it pretty heavily all day and I have about 75% left on battery (It's 5:30 PM right now)
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Ha that's funny.
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So, I went to sleep at full charge, took it off the charger to see how my drain was....I woke up 6 hours later and it was at 64%. I took a look at partial wake locks and it looks as follows (I can't upload .png from my phone)
RILJ (Dialer) 205s count 2178
juicedefender 3019s count 1570
Alarm manager 1543s count 1320
Google services event log also has a pretty high count. I ran the "battery fix" and all that jazz,recalibrated my battery,not sure why drain is so terrible?
Could someone please help me out?
I am running cm7 with faux 0.2.0 1.3 kernel. I have it undervolted and profiles so it never goes above 1ghz unless on ac charger. (456 when screen is off)
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I'm not sure how much it helps you with your issue, but for me JuiceDefender works very well. I would otherwise have a multitude of data sync apps such as Gmail running, and this limits it while periodically enabling sync.
Start tweaking what apps are using data and the battery life will be better.
I have had a problem the same where I am not so sure juicedefender is helping because I tend to set my phone on the desk when I do homework and the screen comes on after I put into sleep mode and then no more that 5 seconds later it turns on at about 25% screen brightness then jumps to 100% them dims to 25% then goes off, all in a matter of between 10-20seconds. I loom at the battery use area in settings and standby is at least 40% & display is right under and idle is next. my settings that I think may be causing this are the mobile data where the autosync is set at enable (in juice defender) & I tried ping but it does the same thing. I just want to know why the screen comes on ever 5 seconds. I don't know how to contact the developer to try and resolve my problem. I am actually on a thunderbolt but that shouldn't matter. I just wanted to reinforce that "i'm not sure juice defender is working as I get about the same battery life".
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I get double the life out of the same roms. I'll try a rom for a day then run juice defender and get a day and a half. Depends on how you have defender setup. The only thing I don't like it doing is disabling my wifi as It sometimes won't reconnect back unless I manually do it. I think setcpu is a joke though. I had it set for 216/456 at screen off and it was running at 1200 for 1/2 the time it was supposed to be asleep. Then whne I opened it up...(Battery less than 50% stay below 1000) and the screen booted up 1300. So to me it's an extra service I don't need.
JD has always given me more battery life on any rom that I have tried.. I recently got rid of it and am trying out GreenPower. so far GP seems to work a bit better than JD. I get a bit more life out of my batter than JD gave me.. try green power out if JD is not cutting it for you.. GP seems a bit lighter as well.. so, could be overall why get more battery life out of it..
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Juice Defender seemed to do little to nothing for my phone. I got rid of it and my battery life remained the same. I can't say the same for everyone else but what works for you might not work for the next guy.
All I'm simply saying is give it a shot and test it out religiously before you make a decision to use it or not.
Works for me another good thing to do if you use set CPU underclock the hell out of it when the screen is off not using it so why not
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My setCPU profiles are as follows:
CPU > 62.0c 456/216 (Priority 100)
Screen off 456/216 (96)
In Call 456/216 (75)
Charging AC 1300/216 (74)
Battery < 20% 608/216 (59)
Battery < 10% 456/216 (54)
Phone is otherwise capped at 1ghz
I have JD configured to run my syncs once every 15 minutes for 1 minute. It is also disabling mobile data while the screen is off and wifi when inactive for 1 minute.
Not sure what else I should do here? Should I re-flash CM7 with the battery @ 100%?
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My setCPU profiles are as follows:
CPU > 62.0c 456/216 (Priority 100)
Screen off 456/216 (96)
In Call 456/216 (75)
Charging AC 1300/216 (74)
Battery < 20% 608/216 (59)
Battery < 10% 456/216 (54)
Phone is otherwise capped at 1ghz
I have JD configured to run my syncs once every 15 minutes for 1 minute. It is also disabling mobile data while the screen is off and wifi when inactive for 1 minute.
Not sure what else I should do here? Should I re-flash CM7 with the battery @ 100%?
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Install the battery calibration app and see if your charge at 100% shows 4000mV+, if it doesn't, that means your calibration is off and you need to search for juggernaut's battery thread and follow the instructions on that to fix your calibration.
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Install the battery calibration app and see if your charge at 100% shows 4000mV+, if it doesn't, that means your calibration is off and you need to search for juggernaut's battery thread and follow the instructions on that to fix your calibration.
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It shows me at 4196mV at 99%,( unable to get past that)
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Barely saw any gain using JD...only used it on my Dell Streak though. The atrix will go 2 days if I need it to so I don't see any need for JD.
I m using JD for nearly 2 years now and I have to say that it DEFINITLY improves battery-life - just by letting it switch off your 3G when you don´t need it you save a lot of juice.
When I still used my Captivate as my DD, JD helped alot. With all the firmware leaks I was reflashing my phone all the time and constantly testing different kernels/roms/apps for battery life.
On my Atrix, it hasn't seemed to help nearly as much. Not sure why... SetCPU with faux's OC/UV kernel has boosted battery significantly though.
I got lots of wakelocks using it. For me it's better to turn off data manually.
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I got lots of wakelocks using it. For me it's better to turn off data manually.
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+ 1, it instantly topped the wakelocks. I thought I'd give it a go & bought the full version; un-installed 6 hours later. Maybe it works well on cm7? I'm on Nottach's Dark Side.
Back to good ol' green power.
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+ 1, it instantly topped the wakelocks. I thought I'd give it a go & bought the full version; un-installed 6 hours later. Maybe it works well on cm7? I'm on Nottach's Dark Side.
Back to good ol' green power.
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Switched to green power
and now I get at least 12 more hours versus juice defender...crazy!
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Interesting. I'll have to try green power. JD said my battery multiplier was 2.10x when I used it. It could just be making that up though. I got 28 hours of life from the atrix and still had 40% battery left (moderate usage: frequent texting and periodic data+wifi usage, I think a 20-30 minute phone call too)
I swtiched to green power. Didn't notice much of a difference in battery life, but Gp is certainly a lot easier to use.
I'm not typically on the phone for long amounts of continuous time, just to text then i turn the screen off (the display is on auto brightness), and i'm getting half a days battery, and display is showing up as using about 70% of my battery at any given time. Any ideas on what could help or anything? Any help is much appreciated
I've had the same thing since day one. What I always do is turn the brightness down when ever I can. It actually helps a lot. You'll notice a difference
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I play HD games for like 5 hours before battery runs out .
How often you sync your emails? every 15mins?
Also try UC , UV and turn your screen brightness to as low as you can.
I hardly ever sync my emails, i have it to auto-sync but i never open it. and whats a good kernel that allows me to do that?
% means nothing... Tell us how long your screen was on
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total screen time was about an hour
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total screen time was about an hour
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if you never change your email sync setting, it is sync every 15 minutes I believe and that sure use a lot of juice.
Really you should try UV and UC and don't use force dual core if battery life is most important to you.
do you know what kernel would allow me to do this?
I take it most of you run manual w/ the screen fairly dim. I have had it on automatic. Im curious at about what percent auto hovers at. I know it auto adjusts but it probably has a general range it stays at - just curious if its like 35% or 55%.
What Percentage do you guys keep the brightness on for the best combination of battery life and visibility?
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do you know what kernel would allow me to do this?
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Mine is GSM version, so probablly can't help you. I am sure it will be all over the place in CDSM section.
I will start looking, thank you very much for helping me
I thought we've been over this. A high screen on percentage doesn't mean youre screen is killing the battery. It means its using the most amount of overall power. Technically that's a good thing. It means the rest of your phone (syncing, android processes, games, etc. Etc.) Aren't running wild in the background while the phone is asleep.
I'd be more worried if your display was only using 40% of the battery!
Turn auto brightness off.... It's too simple to pull down quick settings to change it that way,
Find an app to see running processes and services,might see stuff listed you have no idea was running.... Don't force close anything or mess with anything just use it as a refrence and find out if u really need the app or not, I use titanium back up to keep apps that I use just not to often and just restore them quickly use it and delete it.... I've seen a lot of games running in the background to give notifications and stuff, could be a lot of things... Best soulution to save batttery.... Buy a spare lol
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I have following battery consumation: display eat battery capacity very quickly. In decreasing area i was veawing 3d video trailers on youtube constantly. And during this perion screen eat 78% from all processes. Is it normal? Can i change this horrible appetites of screen? Backlight in automatic.
what app can effectively track our battery drain in MA?
battery monitor widget is quite erratic, or is it really that high during idle
-50 to -150ma (screen off)
I had installed battery monitor and noticed, that when using phone in internet plussed in usb for charging - BM shows -430mA!!! Is usb port so weak? why phone consume so many power?
I have been messing around with system tuner app for a while now and I really like the program.
I would like to hear from people who have used this app and their results with various tweaks that this app provides.
in the boot settings menu:
1. forcing both CPU's online: this should technically give you a better battery life, since it puts less strain on on cpu at a time, has anyone had a good exprience using this?
2. Boost app loading: anyone had any significant improvement with this?
My own settings:
I usually clock my phone at 1.5 (on demand governor) even though faux's kernel allows 1.7 max. I put max clock for screen off at 384 and conservative governor.
I have Undervolted before but do not see a very significant battery difference so I just left it alone.
I tried out the autokill option of system tuner, I only tried to kill the ghost apps, to refrain from the cpu from having to keep restarting the phone, but this also seems to kill battery life...In my experience any type of task killer however detailed will reduce battery and does not increase performance, unless you're running a poorly written app that just needs to be killed.
I use three other programs to monitor my phone
1. system pannel: very good at finding rogue apps that kill cpu...I highly recommend the pro version, you can get a history of what has used cpu up to a week.
2. Onavo and My data manger which basically monitor my wifi and mobile traffic, Onavo only monitors mobile network traffic and lets you restrict apps to only wifi. however it does not measure wifi use of data. My data manager monitor both wifi and network usage but does not give you any options to do anything with the apps, it basically tells you what program is using data while on wifi and mobile.
If anyone has found a good balance between performance and battery saving, please do share.
Thank you.
I read some other guy also mentioned the all cpus on thing. im not sure but isnt it the same as making both processors work at the same time which leads to phone overheating? I will give it a try though. from what you noticed, do you like it more with both cpu on or is better the way it was?
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I read some other guy also mentioned the all cpus on thing. im not sure but isnt it the same as making both processors work at the same time which leads to phone overheating? I will give it a try though. from what you noticed, do you like it more with both cpu on or is better the way it was?
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technically this is how it's supposed to work pic attatched, but I don't know if our roms or even the dual core rom that's out works in this manner, if it did we would be seeing significant battery savings
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technically this is how it's supposed to work pic attatched, but I don't know if our roms or even the dual core rom that's out works in this manner, if it did we would be seeing significant battery savings
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will see then. hey seansk do you notice some kind of hesitation when trying to unlock the phone? when u press the unlock button at the top. I think that boost app loading thing causes this cuz when have it enabled the unlock button you have to press it twice to work, while when disabling that boost app loading thing all works fine...
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will see then. hey seansk do you notice some kind of hesitation when trying to unlock the phone? when u press the unlock button at the top. I think that boost app loading thing causes this cuz when have it enabled the unlock button you have to press it twice to work, while when disabling that boost app loading thing all works fine...
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I have widget locker and havn't had that problem...I just flashed faux's latest kernel and am in the process of re calibrating my battery, it seemed to jump from 100 to 90 in about 10 minutes!!!!!! now I noticed that happening...but I havn't had time to fully replicate it...i need more time..I believe it might have something to do with fauxes kernel, he mentioned that when screen goes off he it puts the phone into a low power consumption mode, but also has something that when you turn it on, is quick to turn on!!! we'll have to wait and see.
If you've been following this thread, just wanted make a quick update...I want to give you my results with system tuner tweaking. Forcing both cores online is a bad idea. It will literally kill your battery in a matter of a couple of hours. ICS will hopefully be different and utilize the cores how they should be, saving some battery and giving the amaze longer battery life!
On the other hand reducing reducing clock frequency on screen off will help in battery life (obviously).
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If you've been following this thread, just wanted make a quick update...I want to give you my results with system tuner tweaking. Forcing both cores online is a bad idea. It will literally kill your battery in a matter of a couple of hours. ICS will hopefully be different and utilize the cores how they should be, saving some battery and giving the amaze longer battery life!
On the other hand reducing reducing clock frequency on screen off will help in battery life (obviously).
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I was noticing the same. It eats more battery. Have u tried reducing the frequency when screen off and by how much? U still r stock rom?
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I was noticing the same. It eats more battery. Have u tried reducing the frequency when screen off and by how much? U still r stock rom?
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yes still stock rooted, I put the governor on conservative and put the frequency to 384 or around there, while screen is off.
What helps most I found out is turning off all the radios like wifi and network data, (basically putting phone on airplane mode). Instead of dropping down 15 percent in 6 hours it drops like 3 when I turn airplane on. But like I've said before it's unrealistic I'm always recieving google talk, google voice, facebook updates and I have to have both of these on which unfortunately eats a lot of battery.
I keep switching back and forth between faux's kernel and stock and I'm actually finding stock gives me better battery life for some reason. Even though I set the clock speeds on both at 1.5 ghz.
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yes still stock rooted, I put the governor on conservative and put the frequency to 384 or around there, while screen is off.
What helps most I found out is turning off all the radios like wifi and network data, (basically putting phone on airplane mode). Instead of dropping down 15 percent in 6 hours it drops like 3 when I turn airplane on. But like I've said before it's unrealistic I'm always recieving google talk, google voice, facebook updates and I have to have both of these on which unfortunately eats a lot of battery.
I keep switching back and forth between faux's kernel and stock and I'm actually finding stock gives me better battery life for some reason. Even though I set the clock speeds on both at 1.5 ghz.
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is the stock rom any better? Im thinking to switch to stock now X left..
Felinos11 said:
is the stock rom any better? Im thinking to switch to stock now X left..
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never used bulletproof for more than a day or beastmod for more than a day. I hear beastmod gives much better battery life. I'm sticking to stock for now until ICS comes out.
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never used bulletproof for more than a day or beastmod for more than a day. I hear beastmod gives much better battery life. I'm sticking to stock for now until ICS comes out.
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They have maybe a bit better battery life. I went back to stock.
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Battery Life
Major battery drain is the screen, when on eats up all the juice, dimming helps a bit
charge source: usb vs AC charge
usb charging takes quite a while, AC charge quicker (~ an hour)
Also, from my observation, usb charged battery runs out quicker than AC charge
Data Connection, Juice defender helps a lot
turn off sync you don't need, like HTC sense
if something is eating up your battery, use this http://market.android.com/details?i...ePad&utm_medium=app&utm_campaign=contextpanel. The thread is located http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
heyodee said:
Battery Life
Major battery drain is the screen, when on eats up all the juice, dimming helps a bit
charge source: usb vs AC charge
usb charging takes quite a while, AC charge quicker (~ an hour)
Also, from my observation, usb charged battery runs out quicker than AC charge
Juice defender helps a lot
turn off sync you don't need, like HTC sense
if something is eating up your battery, use this http://market.android.com/details?i...ePad&utm_medium=app&utm_campaign=contextpanel. The thread is located http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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Juice defender is worth it (Very configurable)
If you want to know what is eating away at your battery when phone is suppose to be sleeping, the battery stat is
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Juice defender is worth it (Very configurable)
If you want to know what is eating away at your battery when phone is suppose to be sleeping, the battery stat is
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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while you sleep, you won't be checking for emails will you? but you expect to wake and see emails received.... that is where it comes in handy. with apps like tasker, you can automate some of this activities. tasker + syncer should be a good combo for you.
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well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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For what it is worth I am running BulletProof 2.3.1 and last night I took phone off charger at 10:00 PM, alarm goes off at 3:30 snoozing every 15 min until 4:15...Battery was at 100% still. It is now 7:00 AM and battery is at 96%.
This was after flashing back to BP around 8:00 PM.
I've noticed the same type of activity when in Airplane mode. Extremely low power consumption - fantastic.
Is it possible maybe to undervolt the Wifi/BT/Mobile radios? Would that make any difference or am I off base here?
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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You had something setup wrong then I think.. you can change how often in syncs while the screen is off, the default setting is for it to turn on data for 1 minute every 15 minutes. Most people don't need to know things so bad that they can't work with a 14 minute delay(at worst), and of couse the internet is on while screen is on, when you're actually using it.
I thought I would need to use juice defender, but since I switched to bulletproof, my usage last me an entire day. From 8am till 1am, usually with some to spare. The only tweak I made to cpu was to enable 192mhz, it isn't like there is a performance drop, but it did make a notable difference in battery life.
If I wanted to I could use juice defender to get more than one day out of it, and I keep a spare battery on me in case I really need to use the phone.. but haven't really needed it.
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For what it is worth I am running BulletProof 2.3.1 and last night I took phone off charger at 10:00 PM, alarm goes off at 3:30 snoozing every 15 min until 4:15...Battery was at 100% still. It is now 7:00 AM and battery is at 96%.
This was after flashing back to BP around 8:00 PM.
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How many apps have you installed?
I've tried a bunch of different combinations but I have gone back to GB every time. I don't even care about features anymore I just want to get the most out of my battery life. If you are getting great battery life will you post your kernel, firmware, and ROM please? Please post if you are on Ext Batt or not.
Thanks
I have an extended battery and I think my battery life is really good. Primarily, I turn off most automatic syncing and keep my screen turned down as low as possible at all times. I use a widget called Brightness Level and I keep it at 13% most of the time. I also keep GPS, Bluetooth, and WiFi off unless I specifically need them. Other than that, I'm not doing anything special. I'm on Clean ROM 4.5 Standard.
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I think the biggest culprit is the screen. I'll get varying battery life every day, anywhere from 2 to 12 hours on a standard battery, or 4 to 30 hours on extended.
The only common factor in each of these for me is screen-on time. I'll get 1.5-2 hours on standard or 3.5-4.5 on the extended battery before it dies.
However, as previously mentioned, turning off Bluetooth, wifi, GPS, mobile data, and sync will always help battery life. Too bad I rely heavily on some form of data, email, and Bluetooth headsets for my work.
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All in my sig.
I've got a system...
I usually can get through the day with a regular battery; a few things to remember:
1) Mail/messaging/anything push
if you can deal with it, set peak hours from like 7am to 7pm and get stuff every two hours during peak and every four hours during off-peak. Push means your phone is actively waiting or doing something almost all the time. This one single thing will make the biggest difference, except for...
2) The Display
The biggest energy hog of all. Actually not much you can do here but set it to time out quickly (a minute or less) and set to either auto brightness or remember to turn it down indoors.
3) Audio
Running audio through the speakers also uses more battery. Try headphones.
Bluetooth audio is great but again bluetooth also uses more energy than headphones.
4) Networking startup services
Lots of games install startup services that run constantly in the background checking for data from the mothership and/or other players. Get rid of them or turn them off if you can. Some apps also do this, I dont have a list but a little Googling will enlighten you.
Any other tips? I'm always looking for other (reasonable) ways to save battery.
PS: as you probably know, the phone (and any smartphone) will charge about %500 faster if its completely turned off. Common sense, I know, but you'd be surprised...
this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
Thanks for the replies. I changed my power from performance to normal and that made a big difference because the phone won't sleep in performance mode. Just a note it will still sleep data even though my hotmail is on push. I am using the hotmail app not the htc mail app. I see people with 3+ hours of battery life in the battery thread and I don't see how they do it. I have the extended and I can make it through a day but I only use the screen for under an hour it seems. I'm not really seeing anything new in here I'm not doing but I do keep my screen auto a lot so I might jack that down. I keep every feature off when not in use.
I'm using stock rooted 3.14.605.5 with same firmware and over been getting better battery life since flashing.
I'm mad as hell about losing unlimited data!
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this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
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Man, That's some serious ****
I generally get great battery life-around 4 hours screen on, 4g, gps. However, a few days ago I noticed higher than normal temps, and poor battery life.
So what changed?
I traced it to the installation of one free app. Picsart-uninstalled and everything is peachy again.
This is my second rezound, the first one always ran hot and drained the battery.
If you're having problems with heat and drain, run a full ruu and see if it helps, if not you may have a bad device or possibly a bad sim. I don't think that the device is the problem in most situations. More likely a runaway app, bad radio/firmware/build combo, user error, or expectations too high.
My setup:
Latest ruu-cleanrom de 1.4-take it easy on the apps and widgets!
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
We're pretty close.
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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Your issue may lay mostly in poor reception. I notice your signal strength thing is in yellow most of the time. Use WiFi if you can. I get pretty good battery life on
Ineffibilis GB
Feb OTA firmware. Don't remember the numbers.
Dsb 1.1.3 undervolted by about 100mv via incredicontrol (UV depends on the device, each is diff) and under clocked to 1188mhz and with interactive governor.
I think my power setting is on Normal.
Also I have weather sync every 3 hrs. Facebook every 4 and leave my Gmail accounts on sync.
I get between 3.5 and 5 hours every day of screen on time through out the day if I'm using my phone a lot. This would also be coupled with usually around 30 minutes of phone calls too. But usually I only charge it every other day (when it gets to around 30%). I get more time out of it on WiFi (5+ hrs and less on 4G (3.5 to 4 hrs at most throughout the day). I also never run my phone down to less than 20% if I can help it. I'm on stock battery too
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
Right. Battery should only drop 1 to 2 percent per hour on good signal. Bad signal can kill it... If I was on 3G my phone would be around the mid 90s with the same usage.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
As long as you don't have partial wake issues, there are only two real concerns for battery.
It's not processor. Again, if the phone's not 'awake' while the screen is off, your phone's processor is not ramping up to full speed at all. While it's on and in your hand, 1.5ghz is a great speed for it to operate. Slower speeds than that significantly slow down how your phone operates, and you will have your screen on for seconds longer (Which uses WAY more battery than the higher clock speed).
In Facebook app, go to menu > settings > and change the refresh interval to NEVER!!!
As of Android 2.2, Facebook does push notifications. You don't need Facebook refreshing very 4 hours (OR EVER!). This wakes up your phone (ramps up processor speed, and so on), uses data (battery), and is unnecessary (since you get push notifications anyway). Turn that crap off. Same with Twitter. Turn it down to manual refreshing only (look in settings > accounts and sync as well as in the app). Same with Friendstream (which will automatically have its own refresh settings - fix them).
There are two things that use your battery.
1 - Screen. Turn your screen off when you're not using it. Stop turning your screen on every 12 minutes to 'see if you have any notifications'. Trust the green LED blinking light, or listen for your phone. You can stop checking it. You're using a TON of battery lighting up that 4.3" screen AND waking the phone back up (ramping up the processor, among other things, and it will stay awake for at least minutes, even after the screen goes back off).
2 - Data. Turn wifi off if you're not using it. Turn Mobile Network (GASP!) off when you're not using it. Pull down your notifications and hit Quick Settings, and turn Mobile Network off. Don't have that? Make the HTC Widget > settings > Mobile network. Turn it off when you're out with your friends after midnight. a) you're not going to post anything reasonable or coherent when you're out drinking anyway to Facebook, and b) call and text still works, so you can still mack on honeys all night (and text them drunkenly). You don't need your damn Gmail at 1am. I know you don't. Don't try to convince me otherwise.
If you keep your screen time to a minimum (and brightness down if you're not using auto brightness), and TURN OFF mobile network (internet) when not using it, your battery will last DAYS. Yes, the stock battery. Now, do you do 100+ texts per day? Sorry, your battery is going to die today. And tomorrow. Every day. The screen time murders the battery, and the Wake time that your phone will have as a result (like every time the phone lights up - for minutes at a time, it'll stay 'awake').
That's how you keep your battery going. On any android phone. Yes, an extended battery works great. I bought one (half price in a verizon store) AND got an EXTRA one for $4 (on amazon.com). Yes, it's for thunderbolt, but YES it's the same part number. It's running my phone right now. Keep it charged, and in your glove compartment. Your life will be better.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055OTNK4/ref=pe_175190_21431760_C1_cs_sce_3p_dp_1
Go get it. Turn off your internet, and your screen. Trust your LED notification light. Stop using MMS Screen On. Your battery will last all day, every day. Unless you text a lot. Then, good luck.
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We're pretty close.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
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In short, yes.
If u turn off data it will help. But you will still have poor signal, so Idk how much it will help. apps and processes that use background data won't be using it, that alone will keep your phone from reconnecting so much, so it will help.
It takes your phone longer to connect on poor signals and your speeds are slower so it takes longer to do the same things. This also keeps your processor running faster for longer times.