Hi everybody. First of all I did not know where to put this thread so I decided to stick it in General, I hope no one minds.
Well I just got my Xperia X10 mini pro yesterday, it came from Spain as I bought it of ebay and locked to Vodafone Spain.
As a long Windows Mobile user, I am used to have to flash a ROM in my native language (PT or SK) as soon as I get the phone, because it's not like in the old days with the Nokias where you would just go to the definitions and change the language to whatever you wanted.
But apparently android is like that too. When I turned on the phone for the first time, I got a lot of language options to choose from. I selected Portuguese and it the phone had all the options in that language. That is why I wanted to ask besides de branding it, what are the advantages of flashing a ROM from a different country?
And now for the hard questions.
I ran the phone without a SIM card in it, but I want to ask. Every time I turn on the phone I get the language options to choose, no matter how many times I choose Portuguese, it just fails to remember it. Is that normal (remember I am running the phone without a SIM card in it, just for testing)?
Is there a way to hard reset the phone? (this expression I got from WM, I hope it's the same for the Android) And if yes, how? (always good to know)
This is an observation.
The phone could not see my WIFI connection, because it was on channel 13, I had to change it to 9 to be sure he would see it and connect to it. After that everything worked . (I hope new radios are on the way)
Overall I did not have much time to test the phone, but I did some web surfing, I went on youtube and it was not bad, considering the screen size (it is even smaller than HTCs Diamond I), and the keyboard made the experience much better.
The phone feels so light, it almost looks like a toy. If you don't know anything about it, you can easily think it's one of those low cost messaging phones, with no actual OS (it's a metaphor, as I do not consider some firmwares that come on phones actual OS).
But I hope it's one of those gadgets that everyone can use
Thanks for bearing with me, and please if you know answer, if not you can always comment, hehe
Johev said:
But apparently android is like that too. When I turned on the phone for the first time, I got a lot of language options to choose from. I selected Portuguese and it the phone had all the options in that language. That is why I wanted to ask besides de branding it, what are the advantages of flashing a ROM from a different country?
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No advantage as far as I know, may be you will get a different set of bloatware depending on the region. but at the end, they all are crap and you will end up uninstalling (Or at least wanting to..) all of them.
Johev said:
I ran the phone without a SIM card in it, but I want to ask. Every time I turn on the phone I get the language options to choose, no matter how many times I choose Portuguese, it just fails to remember it. Is that normal (remember I am running the phone without a SIM card in it, just for testing)?
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I think it asks you just once for the language, as it stores the language preference in an XML file. try using it with a sim and see if it asks you again..
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Is there a way to hard reset the phone? (this expression I got from WM, I hope it's the same for the Android) And if yes, how? (always good to know)
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you can factory reset the phone, I'm not aware of any method that allows you to hard reset your phone. Although you can reflash it with SEUS, that will reset your phone to orginal form.
Johev said:
The phone feels so light, it almost looks like a toy. If you don't know anything about it, you can easily think it's one of those low cost messaging phones, with no actual OS (it's a metaphor, as I do not consider some firmwares that come on phones actual OS).
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I beg to differ, Android is built on linux kernel, and you can use plenty of linux command on it, so I consider it as an actual operating system..
Besides, whats an actual OS?
The definition of an Os is - An operating system (OS) is an interface between hardware and user, which is responsible for the management and coordination of activities and the sharing of the resources of a device, that acts as a host for applications run on the machine.
According to that definition, android (or other mobile/handheld OS) falls well within actual OSes
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I beg to differ, Android is built on linux kernel, and you can use plenty of linux command on it, so I consider it as an actual operating system..
Besides, whats an actual OS?
The definition of an Os is - An operating system (OS) is an interface between hardware and user, which is responsible for the management and coordination of activities and the sharing of the resources of a device, that acts as a host for applications run on the machine.
According to that definition, android (or other mobile/handheld OS) falls well within actual OSes
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I think you misread or misunderstood what I have said. I agree with you about Android. That is why I have bought it, even though it's for my wife
I said, or at least the message that I wanted to spread was that if you do not know anything about the phone, you can easily and mistakenly confuse it with some low end keyboard phones (and those ones do not have an actual OS), that are marketed like messaging phones and do not measure up to this one.
I hope now I am a bit clearer.
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I think you misread or misunderstood what I have said. I agree with you about Android. That is why I have bought it, even though it's for my wife
I said, or at least the message that I wanted to spread was that if you do not know anything about the phone, you can easily and mistakenly confuse it with some low end keyboard phones (and those ones do not have an actual OS), that are marketed like messaging phones and do not measure up to this one.
I hope now I am a bit clearer.
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Haha. Technically, all phones have an operating system, otherwise they're just a pretty, shiny paperweight. I think you mean smartphone
Yeah, I get that a lot, but I'm still proud of my phone!
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I think you misread or misunderstood what I have said. I agree with you about Android. That is why I have bought it, even though it's for my wife
I said, or at least the message that I wanted to spread was that if you do not know anything about the phone, you can easily and mistakenly confuse it with some low end keyboard phones (and those ones do not have an actual OS), that are marketed like messaging phones and do not measure up to this one.
I hope now I am a bit clearer.
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My mistake, yeah I misread your statement.. Sorry about that.
Yes you can easily mistake it as a toy , almost like the samsung corby series ( google if you dont know the mobile ) , but anything that runs Android quite doesn't feel like a toy because it Linux , its powerful , smart and the best OS around..atleast for mobile
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Yes you can easily mistake it as a toy
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When I bought X10 mini pro, I showed it to my friend, who happen to be a Nokia X6 user (8 GB) and a big huge Symbian fan. At the first sight, he wasn't impressed, said I wasted the money since I could have bought a Nokia X6 for lesser price. He said its just another fancy toy from SE, just like Xperia pureness (X5).
The next day, I rooted the phone, removed all the bloatware, installed useful apps and widgets, and last but not the least, installed ADW launcher. Customized it, and then showed him again, and he was blown away!!
All of a sudden Symbian looks like an OS from last century to him. Now he wants an Android phone.
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When I bought X10 mini pro, I showed it to my friend, who happen to be a Nokia X6 user (8 GB) and a big huge Symbian fan. At the first sight, he wasn't impressed, said I wasted the money since I could have bought a Nokia X6 for lesser price. He said its just another fancy toy from SE, just like Xperia pureness (X5).
The next day, I rooted the phone, removed all the bloatware, installed useful apps and widgets, and last but not the least, installed ADW launcher. Customized it, and then showed him again, and he was blown away!!
All of a sudden Symbian looks like an OS from last century to him. Now he wants an Android phone.
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That is exactly what I want to do to this one. I still need to get some reading first, as I am not sure how to remove all the stuff that Vodafone puts in it.
I lack the knowledge of Android, so I am not sure if you go to android market and download the things for free, or if you get it here and just install it on the phone (I sure hope that Android uses some kind of a cab file, that will let me easily install things on it).
So far, from my reading I figured I need to change the SMS application and the answering call one (as I read many people were complaining about those), and I need to get the task killing application so that I can save some battery life.
I was not able to find an explorer on the phone, so I have no access to my SD card (which was strange for me, as WM has it easy).
For rooting I will probably use the one click root (I hope it works for this phone).
If you could point me to the right directions, with the names and a place I can get the 101 applications from, I would be grateful, as my wife needs an END product, and not something like:
"Hunny here is your nice phone, have fun rooting it and customizing it to your needs."
Thanks a lot
PS: I have been looking for some examples of what I wanted the phone to look like, and feel like and I have found this on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpEbYiTiFdw&feature=related
I like how it looks and feels, and the only thing I would probably not want there is the last left widget with the stock market. Other than that I think it's almost perfect for such a small device.
Let me know what you think
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hi guys,
i've just ordered a htc hero on orange and i have 7 days to try it. I will receive it on tuesday, so whilst i'm waiting i have many questions that i would like help with. My computer knowledge is good, but with mobiles i'm almost useless, so apologies if i end up asking questions which may sound pretty straightforward to many of you.
1. The hero will come with orange firmware, but i assume its a lot slower than custom firmwares, so what is the latest and the best known firmware at the moment and what is the procedure on installing it?
2. Since I have 7 days to test out the phone, i want to try it with the latest firmware, but i'm nervous and i want to play it safe and need to protect the original orange firmware, so what is involved in making a FULL BACKUP of the orange firmware and if i decide i want to put the orange firmware back onto the htc, how do i do this?
3. Is there any risk involved in the above procedures where i could mess up the phone and not be able to fix it again?
4. Lastly, if I replaced the phone with the current latest firmware and at a later date Android 2.0 came out, will i be able to upgrade to the latest operating system without problems?
Many thanks again
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hi guys,
i've just ordered a htc hero on orange and i have 7 days to try it. I will receive it on tuesday, so whilst i'm waiting i have many questions that i would like help with. My computer knowledge is good, but with mobiles i'm almost useless, so apologies if i end up asking questions which may sound pretty straightforward to many of you.
1. The hero will come with orange firmware, but i assume its a lot slower than custom firmwares, so what is the latest and the best known firmware at the moment and what is the procedure on installing it?
2. Since I have 7 days to test out the phone, i want to try it with the latest firmware, but i'm nervous and i want to play it safe and need to protect the original orange firmware, so what is involved in making a FULL BACKUP of the orange firmware and if i decide i want to put the orange firmware back onto the htc, how do i do this?
3. Is there any risk involved in the above procedures where i could mess up the phone and not be able to fix it again?
4. Lastly, if I replaced the phone with the current latest firmware and at a later date Android 2.0 came out, will i be able to upgrade to the latest operating system without problems?
Many thanks again
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1) why would you assume this? Orange dont put anything on there that slows the phone down, only an app for extra orange settings, which i believe takes you to a webpage...
2) read up on this, we cannot type it out every time. look for nandroid. But if you are trying it use the official update method from the orange site.,
3) same question, if you follow instructions you will be fine.,
4) It has been said by HTC that 2.0 will come to the Hero.... again this is plastered all over the forums and I do believe that your a lazy ass for not looking this up yourself.
Barry - it seems that rather than helping your simply having a go at me for asking questions. It might be a straight forward procedure for you, but I clearly stated that i'm a noob when it comes to the understanding of mobile phones. If you don't want to help then simply ignore my thread, rather than throwing insulting comments mate.
1. As for telling me that orange doesn't slowdown the phone, well many forum users tell a different story as they said there is a huge difference in speed between modaco firmware and orange's own version.
2. Nandroid is one of many and people have also mentioned sprite and mybackup which confuses us noobs as to which one is best and simplest one to use.
3. The 3rd question is not the same as no.2 because i'm trying to ask if there is any risk of totally bricking the phone, which might not affect you, but it means that i end up stuck on a 24mth contract with a bricked handset.
4. It seems your simply increasing your post count as you didn't read my question properly....I never asked if HTC 2.0 will come to hero....i asked that if i update to a custom firmware now, will i still be okay in updating to android 2.0 or could i run into problems because i have a different firmware.
Hi Mate,
There's a lot of useful info around these forums though i hate the 'High and mighty' approach a lot of people have around here, i dont know if they get a kick out of it or just generally like being unhelpful and worship the search god.
From my experience the search on this site is almost completely useless as you have to know exactly what it is you're searching for in the first place - and the point is that Noobs dont know what their looking for!
As for help with your questions i'll try my best! I have the Hero on Orange also - just had it for over a month.
1. The Orange Firmware doesn't have the bloat you'd expect - it's pretty much the same as the official HTC firmware bar the Orange boot logo. The reason Modaco is so fast is that it has tweaks and such to make it faster.
2. It's possible to do this - however you'll need to install a Custom Boot Image. I made a quick guide for someone else here :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4868874#post4868874
The custom image will allow you to do a Nandroid backup of the currently installed ROM and it can also be restored - however the Orange Rom can also be downloaded from the orange website too and installed if needed using the RUU that coms with it.
3. There's always a risk when flashing firmwares and such. If the instructions are followed then generally you should be ok but theres always the small chance of something unexpected happening.
4. If i understand the question correctly - then yes you are able to install the latest official firmware when it's released. Though i hear that the latest official firmwares have been harder to 'Root' - maybe someone else could clarify.
Anyway i hope these answer your questions - and i'm 99% sure you'll be sticking with the Hero - from my first Month with it, i find it's the best phone i've ever had. Yes i've even owned 'one of them iThingys'.
Just for info I'm running Amon Ra's recover Image 1.2.3, the Modaco 2.8 rom with the Teknologist 1.8 kernel.
Cheers
Paul
thank u so much paul. Mate thats all i was asking for and thank goodness someone like u is here to help us noobs on the forum..ur an asset to this forum..keep up the good work.
I've just received the hero around 5 mins ago and i'm gonna play about with it to see if there even is the need to update the rom and will let u know how i get on.
I'm worried of scratching my touch screen, so my question is that can i get hold of a cover or something that can protect it?
Cheers mate...much appreciate it
No worries mate - glad to help people, shame most people round here find it such a chore.
I've been using my Hero for just over a month and havn't protected it with anything. I always take care to slip it into an empty pocket.
From what others are saying the screen is made of gass and quite resistant to scratches - obviously scraping car keys down it isn't the best idea but i'm sure itll be ok if you take a bit of care with it.
I also hear the response of the screen is lowered if a protector is added. Take a look on the Hero Accessories forum, there may be a thread on there about covers / cases and such.
Cheers
Paul
my problem is that i have 2 mobiles in one pocket and that sometimes means i end up putting my house keys in the same pocket too. The reason i have to have a phone in my trouser pocket is because i'm deaf in both ears and unless the phone is ultra loud, i can't hear it, so the only alert is when the phone vibrates in my pocket.
People recommend either the flexishield or the invisibleshield, don't know wot to go for, lol.
Also the htc unlock button should only be the one on the most right, yet if i press home button, that too unlocks it..is there any way of disabling this or altering the button combination?
To be fair, most trousers / jeans have 4 pockets. If you want to scratch all of your stuff, put both phones and your keys in one pocket. If you want to keep them nice, use some of your 3 spare pockets. At the end of the day, it's a £400 phone - treat it as such and it will reward you by staying nice and shiny.
true, but its not just keys that can do the damage mate...i'm a cable installer and my work involves crouching, bending, lying down and the worry is that the trousers stretch and crack or damage the screen, so some case or screen protector would be nice to have.
Some people say that the touch sense doesn't respond well, but i tried to use the touch with its original screen protecter sticker which comes with it when orange sends it and it works fine.
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true, but its not just keys that can do the damage mate...i'm a cable installer and my work involves crouching, bending, lying down and the worry is that the trousers stretch and crack or damage the screen, so some case or screen protector would be nice to have.
Some people say that the touch sense doesn't respond well, but i tried to use the touch with its original screen protecter sticker which comes with it when orange sends it and it works fine.
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Well it sounds like you'd need a case to keep it protected in your situations. I'm sure there's loads of options available. Either that or just leave it out of harms way
How are you finding the Hero now you've had it for a few days now?
@newbiephone Belt mounted case is what is needed.
hi paul mate,
i think the screen protection is the last of my worries
i have the following issues which i don't know how to address:-
1. Low reception - after reading up, i switched off 3g and this increased the reception, but only slightly.
2. contacts / people list - I have exported 350+ contacts from nokia e75 into a CSV file. Then i imported it into google mail and now i synced the HTC with google and this allowed me to download the contacts list. However the contact's numbers are all classed as additional "notes" rather than numbers. I hope i don't have to manually type in 350 contacts!
3. Is there a more simple dialpad that you can recommend? I hate the htc one.
Hi Newbiefone
Can I just say something here that will satisfy all your worries!!!
You wont be wanting to return the Hero after 7 days because it is a quality phone....
Before long you`ll be installing roms, themes, apps galore.
Plus we`ve all got Android 2.0 to look forward to too....
lol, thanks for the positive comments mate, but these are not worries mate, but problems that need diagnosing and solving. I'm sure one these are solved, my htc will stay with me hopefully forever! ROFLOL!
Oops sorry newbie my post was in relation to your first post!
Only just seen your last post..
I sync my contacts with outlook. Can you not import them into there with your csv files and then sync your hero with outlook?
I have seen may posts about problems with contacts and syncing.
To be honest ive not had one problem with it the way i do it..
If you have any more questions just give us a shout. Had my hero since the day it was launched on Orange.
Ah Newbie just been thinking there is a dialpad out there that ive seen. Just cant think of the name lol...
Christ maybe i should think before i type!
A question for one of your questions. Have you tried the latest radio firmware?
Mine and my girlfriends Hero signal are both poor but we do live an airaid shelter!!
Johnny boy your a STAR!!! If you were a girl, i'd kiss u, lol!!
I exported from nokia pc suite straight to outlook and then used HTC SYNC Manager to synchronise calender and contact its done it perfectly!! Thank u so much!
Right what do u mean by the radio firmware? I currently have the latest orange firmware and was adviced not to mess around with that firmware by someone on the forums as i'm still in my 7 days exchange warranty with orange.
Now how about that dialpad name?
LOL oh i`m glad it worked. I dont know why people have so many problems sorting out their contacts on here. Ive seen many a story about syncing problems. I just think this way is so easy i dont know why everyone doesnt do it this way. Ah well never mind at least ive helped someone.
Mmm best leave radio firmware then till you decide to keep it.
Dial pad now thats a tricky one i had a quick look and couldnt find it.
I`m happy with the stock one so i didnt pay much attention to it. Maybe i should have lol!
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Johnny boy your a STAR!!! If you were a girl, i'd kiss u, lol!!
I exported from nokia pc suite straight to outlook and then used HTC SYNC Manager to synchronise calender and contact its done it perfectly!! Thank u so much!
Right what do u mean by the radio firmware? I currently have the latest orange firmware and was adviced not to mess around with that firmware by someone on the forums as i'm still in my 7 days exchange warranty with orange.
Now how about that dialpad name?
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the reason many people have problems mate is because many import/export the more difficult way via CSV, then google then HTC and if the CSV is messed, then it won't work, but outlook seems to import data perfectly.
If you can't help with a dialpad program, how about like a contacts grid? The Favourites one takes up too much space and only can add a verticle list...if i'm gonna use the whole screen, then i might as well have at least 9 contacts or more at the same time, rather than 3 at a time.
ok so we all know that the htc leo has alot of cool features you can use on it and alot of its qaulity is unique. but unfortunatly it has lots of problems too. i so far has gotten 4 brand new htc hd2's and they all have bugs and problems within them like restarting by itself many times and freezes. tell me what u think?
I love the phone. But I also have very few freezes and have never had the phone reset itself.
I've never had a defective phone. I think a lot of it is things we do to them.
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I love the phone. But I also have very few freezes and have never had the phone reset itself.
I've never had a defective phone. I think a lot of it is things we do to them.
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Same here. The only time I get lockups or slow-downs are after I install certain apps.
Same here..............
Had mine since November and the only problems have been ones that Ive caused through too much tweaking.....
And a problem with T Mobiles original stock rom but that was T Mobiles fault not the HD2.......
LiL xSOULJAx said:
ok so we all know that the htc leo has alot of cool features you can use on it and alot of its qaulity is unique. but unfortunatly it has lots of problems too. i so far has gotten 4 brand new htc hd2's and they all have bugs and problems within them like restarting by itself many times and freezes. tell me what u think?
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The HD2 is a wonderful machine that gives you best performance and wonderful features.
Especially when u compares it to competitive products or the price paid.
I have HD2 , T-8585, since January and never had any freeze or self restart.
All problems I had never cased from the HD2 itself. They cased from installing soft wares which sometimes do not work properly with other soft wares. That was easily recovered with the assistance of nice guys here.
Some problems occurred from defective accessories such as croppy cheap usb-micro cable.
The HD2 is wonderful machine that can be easily converted and modified according to your needs and imagination.
Thanks for the great answers ! I think its just the T-Mobile Rom thats a complete piece of crap. Because I didnt even add anything or tweaked the first 2 phones i got and they still caused many problems within the first day no B/S. Another quick question dough, how much would it cost to buy and repair an htc hd2 LCD screen, because one of my phones screen cracked. Its not the glass outer part that broke but the inner screen.
I am agree with you all, it's a great phone fast-big screen-cool design, but....
It's worth to pay 450 euro for this phone now (AUG)?? I mean I can wait for the next generation (mabe hd3/NOV or DECEMBER) thaat will have more features like an S-AMOLED and mabe a hdmi cable, and all of that with +50 euro.
Do you know anything about new HTC phones that will be released and when, and it is worth to wait more??? Thank you!
I believe the hd2 is one of the best devices on the market. It's fast, it has wonderful features, and now it is capable of running more then one os. Even the stock winmo isn't bad if yu change the rom and don't care about downloading apps. I believe for tmo usa, the hd2 is hands down the best phone they have, other then the n1. And yes better then the samsung vibrant, which is supposed to b upgrade but doesn't even have a camera flash.my experience with samsung phones has been horrible. I don't even think froyo has been released for it. Even tho it's ported, I've been running froyo on my hd2 since late july. As for up coming phones, google htc vision aka g1 blaze. 1GHz processor, medium sized screen, slide out keyboard and android. Basically the first legit replacement for the original g1. Much better then that mediocre mytouch slide 3g. The choice is yours.personally I love my hd2, but yu might just want to wait alittle while longer.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Btw the htc vision should b coming out before the years end. Also there is a rumored hd3 coming soon that is supposed to run wimo7. Decision, decisions lol best thing about the hd2, runs winmo 6.xx, runs linux, runs android, and most likely will run winmo7(I'm sure someone will figure out how to port it) what other phone can do that! Lol decisions decisions
*that was Sent from my HTC hd2 using XDA app*
i think its a Great phone, i love everything about it slim design customisation element big screen but unfortunately it does have its flaws eg battery life occasional freezing to name a few plus no further windows upgrade officially it looks like a dying breed imo but without the chefs on here this handset will be resurrected with android port coming through and presumably windows 7 the futures look good
I do love the phone alot and i do think its the best phone on the market but im just highly upset with its problems. My bad luck i guess hehe . I have another question dough.
What does the red or yellow dots on the back of the phone next to the battery on the lower left mean? I got a 3 phones with red dots but 1 with a yellos dot.
LiL xSOULJAx said:
I do love the phone alot and i do think its the best phone on the market but im just highly upset with its problems. My bad luck i guess hehe . I have another question dough.
What does the red or yellow dots on the back of the phone next to the battery on the lower left mean? I got a 3 phones with red dots but 1 with a yellos dot.
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all that is a reset button. First it was red, then on the newer batch, it was changed to yellow.
For me, its the best windows phone I have ever used. Although if I was thinking of buying a new phone at this stage of the year, I think I would wait till around Oct-Nov or at least i'll wai for the first release of W7 and see if it is worth the wait. But the HD2's built I think is almost perfect(virtual keys at the bottom would have made it perfect for me).
Well dasz really true ! Thanksz for all da help guysz .. Ima jusz try to find the best rom out there . I wuld like sum help on dat too if u dont mind hehe This site is very supportive and useful !! Big thumbs up
Coming from a google phone for the past 2 years and then going back to Windows I was amazed how easy it was to deal with the phone.
The issues are the same as the others freezing, lag, etc. I think its the stock ROM itself, but I wonder? Sometimes it acts like my old dash and when you have to close the tasks and use a program to clear up ram space, it annoys me.
I don't like the windows market place, in google certain programs are free, but in windows you have to pay to use features? F-that.
I awating till they perfect a andriod rom to be put in the HD2 with no issues.
The good points of the phone is that it syncs to my outlook with ease..
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Coming from a google phone for the past 2 years and then going back to Windows I was amazed how easy it was to deal with the phone.
The issues are the same as the others freezing, lag, etc. I think its the stock ROM itself, but I wonder? Sometimes it acts like my old dash and when you have to close the tasks and use a program to clear up ram space, it annoys me.
I don't like the windows market place, in google certain programs are free, but in windows you have to pay to use features? F-that.
I awating till they perfect a andriod rom to be put in the HD2 with no issues.
The good points of the phone is that it syncs to my outlook with ease..
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So does this mean that no matter what rom i put into the phone, it will always be lagging and freezing as it normally would?
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So does this mean that no matter what rom i put into the phone, it will always be lagging and freezing as it normally would?
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I wouldnt say that since most of the roms here seem to make it run better, but Windows mobile is crap compared to Linux.
The HD2 has the same features as my Andriod phone Google maps, You Tube, Google Browser, yet run like crap on the windows mobile phone. GPS take forever to lock on and the maps just has a differnet feel to it..Youtube runs differnet and the browser is crap
Does this phone really have a 1 ghz processor? It feels like my a phone is on 450ghz at times, again maybe window mobile requires too much?
I'm going to flash a rom on the phone since I am tired of the battery drain which is annoying
I have a Nexus One that I am in the process of selling since I like the Hd2 alot more.
The Hd2 does everything I could ever ask of a smartphone and more:
- Free turn by turn GPS directions
- Emulator gaming
- Word/Excel documents
- Bluetooth keyboard support (Android cant do this at all)
- Voice recorder
- Gorgeous 4.3' monster screen
- Tethering
I haven't had any problems with my Hd2 whatsoever. If anything Android gave me more problems than Windows Mobile. The only reason you hear about Android more is it's newer and the media want's to push it as hard as they do with Apple stuff for ratings...
I'm bored with my HD2. Because its working perfectly. I guess I need a new phone with lots of problems
I love the phone. It's design is great, the screen is amazing and the hardware is beefy. What really makes the phone though is the community and chefs here at XDA. I lose count of the amount of times I have reflashed my phone. With different ROMS, experimenting and messing around. It's a great device if you like doing that. It makes you pity the iSheep followers, really..
However, my main 2 drawbacks are this: 1) The battery life is poor.. although that is understandable with the screen and hardware it's got to supply. 2) the fact that HTC have confirmed that they will not be supporting/supplying WinMo 7 for the device. However, I hold out hope that will not be a problem for the clever guys here at XDA .
hi guyz i want to buy this xperia mini pro soon, could you give me some feedbacks? the quality, speed, performance, camera, & problem etc.
if i want to purchase what should I check it? and how to check/test it (basically i check wifi,sms/call,camera/video ) what i mean is for the speed, performance, etc that can i locate the problem or defect..
And...This phone can play actually in facebook games like holdempoker, tetris?(which i mean support flash 10.3?) , and for the updates, is this possible can upgrade 2.3.4 soon?
it is true that Manufacturing dates affected in xperia mini pro regarding noise background, camera blurred, annoying screen when slide keyboard
(you can check under your battery for the build date of your device)
Here are the list affected:
* 11W28
* 11W29
* 11W30
* 11W31
Is this true?
and do you have own 11W32 manufacturing dates which has no defect like issue above?
I bought this phone and had used it for a month and I have no regrets. Its fast and awesome. I couldn't believe sony would make such a great phone at this price. Its almost equal to the big 'Xperia's.
I would definitely recommend this one.
There are certain problems, of course. I'm not on facebook, but yes it supports flash player 10.3. Calls are normal, messaging app is simple(no prob for me). But you can always use 3rd party apps.
Camera is not that good for still shots. I've used nokia phones n95, n97mini and they are way better. Video camera is the best Ive seen(that's because this is the only camera with hd recording that I've seen). I've heard of the noise problem too but I didn't care. It doesn't happen everytime you use the camera. About the battery problem, I'll check later. There's no annoying screen( I don't know what you mean) when you slide keyboard or use autorotate. But the space key is very annoying. You might want to check that before buying. I have to press it two to three times for it to work. Maybe I got a defective product, but anyway its the thing I hate the most out of this phone. And yes, it can be upgraded to 2.3.4 coming this october I think.
Feel free to ask more...
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I bought this phone and had used it for a month and I have no regrets. Its fast and awesome. I couldn't believe sony would make such a great phone at this price. Its almost equal to the big 'Xperia's.
I would definitely recommend this one.
There are certain problems, of course. I'm not on facebook, but yes it supports flash player 10.3. Calls are normal, messaging app is simple(no prob for me). But you can always use 3rd party apps.
Camera is not that good for still shots. I've used nokia phones n95, n97mini and they are way better. Video camera is the best Ive seen(that's because this is the only camera with hd recording that I've seen). I've heard of the noise problem too but I didn't care. It doesn't happen everytime you use the camera. About the battery problem, I'll check later. There's no annoying screen( I don't know what you mean) when you slide keyboard or use autorotate. But the space key is very annoying. You might want to check that before buying. I have to press it two to three times for it to work. Maybe I got a defective product, but anyway its the thing I hate the most out of this phone. And yes, it can be upgraded to 2.3.4 coming this october I think.
Feel free to ask more...
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wow thxs for your great informative response.. If i download 3d games like asphalt 6 or battlefield etc it required to root it first?.. and it is recommend to root new phones like 1 week old (i know it will void warrantly, but how about the other disadvantage in rooting?)
for android os, the spec shows that 2.3 but all users has 2.3.3 . I am little confusing about this, is they manual flash to get 2.3.3 or if I buy it actually 2.3.3 already?
for the annoying screen while slide keyboard check this youtube and forward @13:11 and i have found out other user crossed this issues but i lost that link but it is similar to these. . .
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Mine is already at version 2.3.3 when I bought it. So no flashing needed.
I'm on slow gprs internet right now so I'll watch the video later. I forgot to tell you that an annoying colourful screen appears sometimes when I open many apps and games at the same time and then pressing the home key to go there. Not that the screen stays like that, but it happens very fast but you will notice it. I happen to see pink and green lines. You might have seen such a thing on PCs(it happened on mine). It freaks me out so I never did that again. I used taskmanagers for switching.
If you buy licensed games, I don't think rooting is needed. I haven't thought of buying just yet, and don't intend to root my phone till my warranty runs out. I'll have to study more about rooting before doing it as I'm new to android OS. I'm satisfied with playstation games at the moment.
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Mine is already at version 2.3.3 when I bought it. So no flashing needed.
I'm on slow gprs internet right now so I'll watch the video later. I forgot to tell you that an annoying colourful screen appears sometimes when I open many apps and games at the same time and then pressing the home key to go there. Not that the screen stays like that, but it happens very fast but you will notice it. I happen to see pink and green lines. You might have seen such a thing on PCs(it happened on mine). It freaks me out so I never did that again. I used taskmanagers for switching.
If you buy licensed games, I don't think rooting is needed. I haven't thought of buying just yet, and don't intend to root my phone till my warranty runs out. I'll have to study more about rooting before doing it as I'm new to android OS. I'm satisfied with playstation games at the moment.
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ahh okay.. I am also new in android OS. So I will wait couple of months before proceed in rooting. (seriously I'm scared when attempting to root especially when they warn you like "rooting procedure incorrectly may have brick your phone" LOL. For the wifi did you check it before you purchase? it seems few users also encounter in wifi which unable to connect. . Maybe when I purchase this phone I know what you mean in taskmanager
rooting itself will not void your warrenty, as it can easily be undone as if you never tampered with the device. However, there is no easy way to root the phone (as in superoneclick or gingerbreak) and requires unlocking the bootloader which will void your warrenty.
I've heard that rooting can be undone, but is it a simple process or does it involve flashing a rom? I'm scared of flashing my phone. I've never done it even with my previous windows mobile and symbian phones.
And delmarz, about the wifi thing, I never checked 'cause I know I won't be needing it. But I've tried wifi tethering with my xperia and other phones which connected from mine ran with the same speed as in mine(alone). (...but seriously, I don't know which phone gets the credit in this case)
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I've heard that rooting can be undone, but is it a simple process or does it involve flashing a rom? I'm scared of flashing my phone. I've never done it even with my previous windows mobile and symbian phones.
And delmarz, about the wifi thing, I never checked 'cause I know I won't be needing it. But I've tried wifi tethering with my xperia and other phones which connected from mine ran with the same speed as in mine(alone). (...but seriously, I don't know which phone gets the credit in this case)
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All you need to do to unroot your phone is to click on the restore or repair button in the Sony Ericsson pc suite.
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Titan Nettix said:
I bought this phone and had used it for a month and I have no regrets. Its fast and awesome. I couldn't believe sony would make such a great phone at this price. Its almost equal to the big 'Xperia's.
I would definitely recommend this one.
There are certain problems, of course. I'm not on facebook, but yes it supports flash player 10.3. Calls are normal, messaging app is simple(no prob for me). But you can always use 3rd party apps.
Camera is not that good for still shots. I've used nokia phones n95, n97mini and they are way better. Video camera is the best Ive seen(that's because this is the only camera with hd recording that I've seen). I've heard of the noise problem too but I didn't care. It doesn't happen everytime you use the camera. About the battery problem, I'll check later. There's no annoying screen( I don't know what you mean) when you slide keyboard or use autorotate. But the space key is very annoying. You might want to check that before buying. I have to press it two to three times for it to work. Maybe I got a defective product, but anyway its the thing I hate the most out of this phone. And yes, it can be upgraded to 2.3.4 coming this october I think.
Feel free to ask more...
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+1 thumb up!
prinzhernan said:
All you need to do to unroot your phone is to click on the restore or repair button in the Sony Ericsson pc suite.
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Oh okay. Still, I will root it when my warranty runs out.
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Oh okay. Still, I will root it when my warranty runs out.
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hahahaha... me too I'm afraid that mini pro gets lag/hang, touchscreen no response, etc after rooting ...
QUESTION FOR ALL:
can you give me the direct point of why we should root this phone? and what is the main advantage of rooted phone and its disadvantage (except can void your warranty)
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hahahaha... me too I'm afraid that mini pro gets lag/hang, touchscreen no response, etc after rooting ...
QUESTION FOR ALL:
can you give me the direct point of why we should root this phone? and what is the main advantage of rooted phone and its disadvantage (except can void your warranty)
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Hmm, I always thought its JUST to have full control of your android system.
delmarz said:
hahahaha... me too I'm afraid that mini pro gets lag/hang, touchscreen no response, etc after rooting ...
QUESTION FOR ALL:
can you give me the direct point of why we should root this phone? and what is the main advantage of rooted phone and its disadvantage (except can void your warranty)
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Root itself lets you have total control over the android system. I haven't rooted mine because I dont see the need to. Everything runs perfectly.
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Not rooting ya android phone is like having a pretty young GF and not boning it every night.
It lets you install some very useful apps, get rid of the horrible bloatware crap networks install, and gives you full control of your device.
delmarz said:
QUESTION FOR ALL:
can you give me the direct point of why we should root this phone? and what is the main advantage of rooted phone and its disadvantage (except can void your warranty)
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One really useful thing is that it is possible to take a backup of all the program's setting, game acheivements etc. This is not possible with a non rooted phone. The backup programs can't access the app db if not rooted.
If you need to reset your phone for some reason, at least your work and progress isn't spoiled.
thank you for your reponse I bought my xperia mini pro today ...but help i downloaded the NFS(games) in pc my question where do I paste it?... usually i paste it in Phone Card (E but when I browse in phones i did not locate my NFS installer ..help me
delmarz said:
thank you for your reponse I bought my xperia mini pro today ...but help i downloaded the NFS(games) in pc my question where do I paste it?... usually i paste it in Phone Card (E but when I browse in phones i did not locate my NFS installer ..help me
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Congrats, welcome to the family.
You downloaded the .apk file or the 'sdcard' data? For sdcard data, you can google where to put it (plus there should be an info from the site you downloaded). For installer (apk file), keep it anywhere. Try refreshing your folders or close the window and open again(if you're searching from pc). There should be no problem locating from the phone itself with any file manager.
Otherwise, use application installer from menu. It will automatically search for it. Careful though, nfs shift is the app that started the 'annoying screen' in my phone. I downloaded the installer and installed it, then started it, while downloading its data, I pressed home and then whoosh the pink-green-blah blah blah screen came in a flash. Most android users will try nfs first, don't worry.
Hello!
Advantage from rooting:
Full control over the device.
Disadvantage from rooting:
Losing capability of DRM reproduction and the trackid feature/app
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Get astro file manager from market, put .apk files into a folder, browse to folder with astro and you can install them.
tigger69 said:
Get astro file manager from market, put .apk files into a folder, browse to folder with astro and you can install them.
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Don't really need that. Just open application installer from the app drawer and if you really did copy to your phone, then it will be shown there.
Ok guys come on this is driving me absolutely insane. Beautiful phone, no root all these work arounds because there is no root is driving me insane. Spent many many hours scouring xda and google for a solution. Maybe we need to think outside the box on this one remember Gingerbreak? I realize on a software level we have only standard user access, but its just an OS theres gotta be something we can do. Who needs what to get this going? Im brave enough to do what needs to be done/tested on my i527. Im comftorable using any tools you need me to will provide promptly. My device is ATT Branded but it is unlocked and currently being used on MetroPCS with working lte and usb tethering
Downgrading
What is seriously stopping us from odin'ing or heimdalling this thing back to stock 4.2.2? Never in my life have a seen a device (phone pc etc) that could not be drastically changed by going to the hardware level. Thats the point of download mode right? bypassing the need for a sucessful initialization. This thing is just a Krait 300 cpu with a Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 soc, seriously nothing new or special about it. (yes i understand the bootloader is locked and encrypted)
Ive been doing alot of thinking about this device and it honestly reminds me of the old days when we ran embedded systems, with alot of those embedded systems theres was no hardware level access what so ever, but there was always a way. Ive done numerous GPS's, Car stereos etc. All running windows embedded with no hardware level access and were able to bypass system software with ease. i realize yes it was windows embedded but the principal is still the same, not much has really changed since then. (yes i know ALOT has changed but not really all the same rules/principals apply) What we are dealing with seems to be software based encryption in the firmware of the device. With a computer I think of a couple things 1. with a bios password you screwed up on what do you do? reset the cmos...this is obiviously out for obvious reasons. 2. update/restore/bypass that bios Got a problem with the bios or screwed up restore it, done. (once again I realize these are not like a standard pc just comparison thinking outside the box remember?) Id really like to see this device flashed back to 4.2.2 then twrp'd or cwm to whatever we want from there.
Whats the real problem here?
Been asking myself what is the REAL problem? I dont mean, root or locked bootloader. What is really stopping us? Answer is super simple yet complicated. User Account Permissions We need rw access to that system folder. Via terminal on the device im able to mount /system as rw but any further changes are useless usually result in a bad mode error. Maybe we need to call in a black hat boy and give us an account exploit for at least software level (os root is better than no root right?)? Ive got some friends in high places in security working for that wonderful DoD, ive been in the game a long time can keep up with most of em but i went networking not security.
Come on people Ive never seen this community give up on something like this before! Yall got me started on all this with my ppc6700, and this bump in the road just makes me wanna lift the civic up a bit so we dont scrape and hit it at 30mph.
In the words of Young Jeezy:
If you grind hard enough
You could stack a few mil' nigga make it out the streets like me
If you grind strong enough
You could be a trap star nigga be on TV and keep it G
If you grind long enough
You could take care of your nephews and your nieces and your moms and your girl
If you grind hard enough
You could stand on top, tell these hatin a** niggas It's Tha World
Its all you man, knock yourself out. I was optimistic for a year. Longest year of my life. I got parolled and then liberated from Samsung.
It was malnourished from the get go, designed as an affordable big screen device. But very average.
Get out now my friend.
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Hi guys.
First of all, I have searched the forum, and also used google, but most of info is not fresh and is not really complete. So please excuse me in advance if I"m asking a question that is partially asked before.
And Please before you reply, I ask you even, I beg you please only reply if you have a constructive informative things to say. Please dont come with sarcasm etc... This is a very serious thing for me.
My project :
Have a android phone for only 1 APP and with Only VPN / TOR connection. So Basicly imagine a android phone that has only 1 app. When that app is in use, communicating it comunicates true vpn maybe TOR.
This phone will not be used for anything alse. Only 1 APP. The APP is a VOIP app, so it will make calls true a external server. The internet will be on the simcard, simcard will be used wich has no Telephony services but only internet services on it. So it must be really basic, not to cheap not to expensive. No other apps will be used. Actually if possible all apps will be removed. and will be locked down, so you can only start, unlock, start app call / recieve calls. turn of.
Now, the Questions
1. What is the most Secure Android ROM, that would work on most / many android phones.
1.1. I want to LOCK the rom / android completely after install and setup settings, sothat nobody can install anything anymore.
1.2. The rom must be light, sothat it's fast and also not to heavy on the battery.
1.3. Posibilities to add extra options like self distruct if 3 times wrong unlock code is entered, like Iphone.
2. What phone would you recommend to do this job, Please keep in mind, it should be not to small, sothat it's nice to use. sits nice in the hand of a grownup person.
Nobody ?
So... No reply at all ))
I did a little research, found out i can strip down the firmware, just build it / rebuild it from source or just make some edition, I'd still like to hear / read some advice about wich phone model to take.
If you are gonna build from source then your best option is a nexus. Other wise you will end up having issues with device trees and kernel source.
As for locking it down well that's another matter. As long as they could get access to the device there is more way to stop them completely.
zelendel said:
If you are gonna build from source then your best option is a nexus. Other wise you will end up having issues with device trees and kernel source.
As for locking it down well that's another matter. As long as they could get access to the device there is more way to stop them completely.
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Thanks for your reply / info.
for the lockdown, it's more like anti kids lockdown, sothat users cannot install just what ever they want. But I think it will be more advanced than that.
I'm planing to make a clean, light, firmwar that will :
1. have only 2 ways of comunicated. 1. Secure VOIP 2. secure chat system like tox or something.
2. will comunicate only true VPN or TOR
3. Will be locked down after initial setup. meanin will not be possible to install anything, just set options like wifi etc... no apstores.
4. Will have self distruct software, that counts how many times wron pin / screen unlock is done, if more then 2-3 will completely wipe itself to empty device.
5. by default camera, gps, proximity, will be absent, so will be removed in ROM, so will be really not functional.
sofar
tomorrow will search for a nexus.
thanks for your advice again.
zelendel said:
If you are gonna build from source then your best option is a nexus. Other wise you will end up having issues with device trees and kernel source.
As for locking it down well that's another matter. As long as they could get access to the device there is more way to stop them completely.
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Nexus, like any nexus ? cause there are many, lg nexus, samsung nexus, etc...
turalo said:
Nexus, like any nexus ? cause there are many, lg nexus, samsung nexus, etc...
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Well that depends on where you want to start. You can get an older nexus where all the code is pretty much there for stuff and learn that way. Or get a newer one where things are still being changed around. Let me give you one warning. With ever yearly android release you pretty much have to rebate everything you did and start from square one.
zelendel said:
Well that depends on where you want to start. You can get an older nexus where all the code is pretty much there for stuff and learn that way. Or get a newer one where things are still being changed around. Let me give you one warning. With ever yearly android release you pretty much have to rebate everything you did and start from square one.
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Thanks for all advise, info.
I have done first tests, went with basic samsungs. s4 mini, have installed edited cyanogen, all tests went well, now testing self distruct mechanism.