Anybody messed around with full 360 rotation? I love the phone, but the buttons on the bottom are just a little bit stretchy for my thumb with how i hold the phone, i was thinking maybe if i flip it upside down with buttons on top it would feel better.
Curious if anybody has had any experience with enabling this before?
It comes on 2.2. So, you will have to wait a while.
I tried it out on the D1, and kept losing track of where the buttons were.
There may be a way to make it work on 2.1, but I haven't seen it.
Am I missing something here?
360 rotation just means you're at the same place.
ghdtpdna said:
Am I missing something here?
360 rotation just means you're at the same place.
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lol true.... but if your phone can rotate 360 it means it can do 0, 90, 180, 270
Ill look into it.... I dont know what makes the rotation, ill ask around.
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lol true.... but if your phone can rotate 360 it means it can do 0, 90, 180, 270
Ill look into it.... I dont know what makes the rotation, ill ask around.
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Exactly.
My phone does 0, 90, 270. Just no 180.
I think enabling 180 can make the thing screwy.
I think OptedOblivion did the 360 rotation for Cyanogen. He might be able to help with that.
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360 rotation just means you're at the same place.
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Yes, you are missing something. The other 359 degrees.
wow. mind blowing. imagine the phone, in realtime, always keeping the screen face up no matter what angle you held it at. like if i want to hold the phone at 27 degrees it would adjust so it was still aligned. woah.
I can't wait for this to happen, seeing as I could finally make a custom car dock in which I can place the phone down onto the charger plug. Why they put the charger on top I have no idea
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wow. mind blowing. imagine the phone, in realtime, always keeping the screen face up no matter what angle you held it at. like if i want to hold the phone at 27 degrees it would adjust so it was still aligned. woah.
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For a circular device, that would be a must-have feature.
...for a rectangular device...not so much.
lol. true enough phoenixpath. just thought it would look really cool.
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lol. true enough phoenixpath. just thought it would look really cool.
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Tell you what just occurred to me though. Say you brought up a web page, it fits the screen. Today you double tap or pinch zoom to a certain part of the page. Now it fits and words wrap, great!
What if at a certain zoom level, or by a gesture or hot button, instead of having to zoom back out or scroll around, the virtual document remained still, but your phone would become like a virtual document magnifying glass......so instead of having to zoom all around to read the page, you can "fix" the document and simply move the reader around......i dunno if I am explaining this right...lol
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While I was cooking I set my Prime on the counter, my overhead light was shining on the screen and I could see through the screen to the circuits behind it. What is more disturbing is the flash from the the connection points in a grid pattern, they kinda look like greek key pattern. Now I see the flash from the connection points anytime I move the screen.
Can anyone else take their Prime, with light above them in landscape tilt the screen back and forth and see if you see the grid behind the screen and the flash of the connection points. It will look like rows running from top to bottom.
TIA
Mosh~~
Believe it sounds like you're seeing the digitizer grid. Normal for touch screens.
I have seen the grid. I have never seen flashing between the point in the grid though.
Just the digitizer.. normal.
As for the flashing, its probably just the way the light is hitting it. bouncing off reflections.
regalpimpin said:
Just the digitizer.. normal.
As for the flashing, its probably just the way the light is hitting it. bouncing off reflections.
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It's bouncing off the digitizer points and reflects back, kinda sucks. I looked at my brothers fruit device and you can't see it, I looked at my phone and can't see it, but this screams "here I am to catch your eye all the time now". LOL
So I have noticed for a while that my s-pen is acting weird buy I found out today that the little transparent end that touches the screen is stuck in and not out like it used to be. Anyone know how I can get it out?
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Think mine is to but not sure how much travel its suppose to have.
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It doesn't move...
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It doesn't move...
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I've gone through 3 notes and they all moved a little. My current one is a bit wobbly. Every other Wacom stylus I have moves a little bit.
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I've gone through 3 notes and they all moved a little. My current one is a bit wobbly. Every other Wacom stylus I have moves a little bit.
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It does not "retract" up and down, or have any travel. Yes it wiggles a tiny bit...
Think mine is to but not sure how much travel its suppose to have.
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It does not "retract" up and down, or have any travel. Yes it wiggles a tiny bit...
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Hm. I don't know...i swear mine pushes in and out as i place pressure on it. I know for a fact my other Wacom pens do.
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Hm. I don't know...i swear mine pushes in and out as i place pressure on it. I know for a fact my other Wacom pens do.
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Hmm, I dunno, maybe mine is messed up too then I actually have used the S Pen very little, but when I used in the store I poked at the S-Pen and its tip was "solid" feeling, and mine is too.
I read that it can detect 255 different levels of pressure, however on mine, it seem like it's more like 3. Maybe wrong thread, but...
S-Memo, if I put zero pressure on the pen and draw, nothing draws. A tiny bit of pressure and I get a light or thin drawing, depending on tool.. More pressure and it darkens/gets thicker. But pretty much nowhere in between. Maybe not the best app to try it.
Well, Multitouch Visualizer 2 I can see a wide amount of pressure sensitivity, but in real world use (at least in S-Memo) I only really see two. I suspect app limitation...
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Hmm, I dunno, maybe mine is messed up too then I actually have used the S Pen very little, but when I used in the store I poked at the S-Pen and its tip was "solid" feeling, and mine is too.
I read that it can detect 255 different levels of pressure, however on mine, it seem like it's more like 3. Maybe wrong thread, but...
S-Memo, if I put zero pressure on the pen and draw, nothing draws. A tiny bit of pressure and I get a light or thin drawing, depending on tool.. More pressure and it darkens/gets thicker. But pretty much nowhere in between. Maybe not the best app to try it.
Well, Multitouch Visualizer 2 I can see a wide amount of pressure sensitivity, but in real world use (at least in S-Memo) I only really see two. I suspect app limitation...
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In S-Memo, switch to brush (which darkens with pressure), and you'll see finer pressure responses.
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In S-Memo, switch to brush (which darkens with pressure), and you'll see finer pressure responses.
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Did, still only saw two levels as far as I could tell. I looked around for some other P-Pen apps, but so far not seeing anything.. Maybe Autodesk will release another version of Express Paint for a few bucks with S-Pen support.....
Mine is the same. Just a bit of wiggle room to it. Can't really see it physically moving up and down.
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Sure it does. It's a pressure sensitive tip. Has about 1mm of travel.
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Sure it does. It's a pressure sensitive tip. Has about 1mm of travel.
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Don't see 1mm of travel on mine, but yes it moves a tiny bit. IMO it seems like there should be more travel in order to really use the 128 levels of pressure sensitivity. I'm going to find and check out a "real" wacom stylus and look at its tip for giggles.
Hi all, sorry my first post is asking for help, but I'm lost on this one.
It doesn't happen all the time, but I randomly get a dead spot on the bottom right corner of my phone.
It happens when I touch the app drawer, and the L key when I'm texting. It only randomly acknowledges I touched the screen.
Restarting the phone usually helps, but does that mean it's software or hardware?
Should I have it replaced?
Stock VZW Note II, no apps installed.
Ty for any and all help.
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It was replaced for a bad digitizer.
When using Multitouch visibility test, if you put more then 4 fingers on the screen, it locked up the phone requiring removal of the battery.
Perhaps instead of software, could it be heat?
It sounds like a dead/dying pixel to me. If it is only there on certain screens, then probably not, but if its there on say the boot screen or something, then I'd take it back.
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I'm sorry I should have been more specific.
It's not a screen blemish.
It's when I go to tough the screen.
Like if I hit the L key on the keyboard during a text message, it will only register a touch like 50% of the time.
Or if I touch the app drawer, I have to hit it multiple times to open it up.
The actual screen is perfect, no dead or stuck pixels at all.
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I'm sorry I should have been more specific.
It's not a screen blemish.
It's when I go to tough the screen.
Like if I hit the L key on the keyboard during a text message, it will only register a touch like 50% of the time.
Or if I touch the app drawer, I have to hit it multiple times to open it up.
The actual screen is perfect, no dead or stuck pixels at all.
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I'd return to Verizon, especially if you're not rooted so it won't be any trouble returning to stock etc.
It's probably mildly annoying to you now and it's only going to get worse over time. If there's no physical damage to the phone I don't see them giving you any trouble.
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I'd return to Verizon, especially if you're not rooted so it won't be any trouble returning to stock etc.
It's probably mildly annoying to you now and it's only going to get worse over time. If there's no physical damage to the phone I don't see them giving you any trouble.
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No damage at all, and I actually went through 3 screen protectors before I figured out it wasn't them.
Kinda bummed I have to drive 45 miles to return this damn thing though.
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No damage at all, and I actually went through 3 screen protectors before I figured out it wasn't them.
Kinda bummed I have to drive 45 miles to return this damn thing though.
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You don't. Call VZ and they will ship you another and give you a prepaid box to ship the old one back in.
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You don't. Call VZ and they will ship you another and give you a prepaid box to ship the old one back in.
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I actually called them, and they told me to just take it back to the store in case the replacement has issues.
Which is troubling to hear.
I have a youtube video demonstrating the problem, but I won't let me post it so ohwell.
Will have to wait til I get 10 posts.
Basically, using multitouch visibility test, I roll my finger around the bottom right corner while never lifting it off, and it won't recognise my trying to touch the specific spot.
After I life my finger and move it around the screen it will recognise the spot. It's very random.
Here's the video.
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The youtube tags aren't working?
So what do you all think?
Hardware or software?
After further messing around in Multitouch Visibility test, I can replicate this all over the screen, but it's easiest to do at the bottom right corner where L shows up on the keyboard.
Do u have a case with any magnets on it?
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Jay A whY said:
Do u have a case with any magnets on it?
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That would only affect the S-Pen, from what I understand.
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Do u have a case with any magnets on it?
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Nah, it was a bad digitizer they said.
Whenever you put multiple fingers on screen, it would lock up, and require yanking the battery to reboot.
When you notice this are you holding the S-pen? I noticed if you get the pen near the screen (close enough for air hover to work) that the screen and buttons quit working to touch. For a little while I thought the home button was having problems, turned out the way I was holding the pen would result in it being placed near the screen when I hit the button.
Wyatt W.
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When you notice this are you holding the S-pen? I noticed if you get the pen near the screen (close enough for air hover to work) that the screen and buttons quit working to touch. For a little while I thought the home button was having problems, turned out the way I was holding the pen would result in it being placed near the screen when I hit the button.
Wyatt W.
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The main reason I noticed it was when I was texting.
Whenever I went to type words like sleep, or talk, they would be missing the letter L.
Or when I would go to open the app drawer, and it would only work half the time.
All while the pen was in the phone.
The lockup doesn't sound normal but as far as dead spots if you have a screen protector on have you tried removing it? Marginal screen protectors will cause touch input issues.
It's one of those features that I loved as soon as I heard about it in the original Moto X. I thought "that's real, useful, innovation." But the implementation in the 6P is poop. I can't reliably get the thing to work at all. As in, it works with movement, but I can't tell you how to reliably set it off. At all.
One other thing I've noticed is the screen is fully woken up by (I think) any touch on the screen when Active Display is on. Which seems very wasteful.
I'm guessing this is purely software because the sensors in the 6P are more than up to the task. I would also think it would be nice to have a setting to simply use the power button to, in essence, half wake the screen the way Active Display does. Then tapping on the notification will perform as normal.
Sound off if these issues are limited to just me. I actually hope they are.
Seems to work pretty well for me, i wouldn't say 100% but most times i pick up the phone, or take it out of my pocket.. it lights up
Laying down flat, picking up the device shows info.
Laying down flat, a little twist shows info.
Picking it up seems more reliable, but the nudge left or right when flat needs to be a decent "nudge". Otherwise it would be switching on constantly, which would be a waste.
And waking when touching any part of the screen when adisplay is showing is normal behavior.
Maybe when development moves ahead we'll have more control over it's behavior. I can see devs having fun with this feature.
+1 for the OP. I've been using the phone about a full day now and I've seen the active display like maybe 3 times, never when it really made any sense. Bummer.
Owned my phone less than 24hrs, installed a screen protector before using the phone. Ambient display want really working. I took the glass screen protector off, ambient display has come back. I'm wondering if the sensor is that sensitive.
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It's one of those features that I loved as soon as I heard about it in the original Moto X. I thought "that's real, useful, innovation." But the implementation in the 6P is poop. I can't reliably get the thing to work at all. As in, it works with movement, but I can't tell you how to reliably set it off. At all.
One other thing I've noticed is the screen is fully woken up by (I think) any touch on the screen when Active Display is on. Which seems very wasteful.
I'm guessing this is purely software because the sensors in the 6P are more than up to the task. I would also think it would be nice to have a setting to simply use the power button to, in essence, half wake the screen the way Active Display does. Then tapping on the notification will perform as normal.
Sound off if these issues are limited to just me. I actually hope they are.
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The touch layer and the actual display are 2 different pieces of hardware, you probably can't limit what portions of the touch layer are active, it's either on or off but that has nothing to do with what pixels are turned on. Hope that helps.
Just turned it on to test. Seems to light up when its supposed to. Turned it back off because I use android wear and don't need it.
My switching from Active Display (Moto X 2013) to Ambient Display (Nexus 6) was tough, but I got used to it. My 6p seems to not work as well or the same as my N6 did.
In the morning if I wake up before my alarm I would grab my N6 to activate the Ambient Display and see the clock, as well as my notifications (I get the weather in the morning) to see if there was anything urgent (text from a coworker, etc).
With my 6p when I pick it up, nothing seems to happen, or at least not as quickly as it did with my N6. N6 would show it on almost any movement, but the 6p requires it to be fully picked up all the way and almost vertical before it shows anything. Not sure if this is gyro or software related. If I pick it up from flat and rotate 90 degrees right (like it would be if it was sitting next to my bed), effectively making it vertical in landscape mode) nothing happens. If I hold it vertical in portrait, it shows me.
Just something to get used to, I guess.
Active display is rubbish on the 6P lol. That's coming from a user BTW, its just not reliable.
I agree with OP. I sat phone beside me and noticed it would light up when I got a new message. Then a few seconds after, without touching or moving it, it would light up again (no new anything happened), then it would light up again. Not sure what's waking it up, but quite annoying. Should absolutely be a software fix though.
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I agree with OP. I sat phone beside me and noticed it would light up when I got a new message. Then a few seconds after, without touching or moving it, it would light up again (no new anything happened), then it would light up again. Not sure what's waking it up, but quite annoying. Should absolutely be a software fix though.
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This is one thing that is reliable for me! Lol. When a notification comes through, it will activate once, then turn off, then activate again shortly after. I'm not sure if it's mean to do this or not, but at least it's reliable.
I should make it clear though that in my short time with the device, it is a definite top quality phone. The Active Display just seems to be, for me at least, a noticeable deviation from the very high bar set by the rest of the device. I did read other reviewers with issues, but then, how much faith can you put in a 48 hour review. I've had mine for almost a week and still feel like I'm just getting to know it.
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The touch layer and the actual display are 2 different pieces of hardware, you probably can't limit what portions of the touch layer are active, it's either on or off but that has nothing to do with what pixels are turned on. Hope that helps.
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True-ish. It is indeed possible to have a software solution that ignores certain touch events even though the hardware layer will consistently recognise touch events as long as the touch layer is active. If the Active Display becomes just another UI, then the notification icons/regions become touch targets and the rest of the screen can be written in software to not be touch targets and thus not respond to touch inputs.
I'm not sure what this method would look like in practice. So for example, when the Active Display has been activated, would there be a way to fully activate the screen by a touch method without touching a notification? Maybe a special region at the bottom of the screen? No idea. Just thinking out loud.
Coming from Active Display on the Droid Maxx, Ambient Display is very disappointing and actually leads to my emergency dialer engaging sometimes when the phone is in the pocket of looser pants. But it doesn't display when I would like it to, with just a nudge, like the Motorola implementation.
I've messed around with my dad's phone. He has the Moto X as well. I can literally just wave my hand in front of the screen and it comes on. I thought that was awesome. This phone does seem a bit inconvenient if I just want to quickly get the time or my notifications. Then again that's why I have a (smart)watch. Not sure where I'm going with this.
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I've figured it out! Feeling quite pleased with myself.
Based on the responses of others, I tried using it slightly differently. Now, I figured out two instances which regularly and reliably activate the Active Display.
The first is when the phone is flat on a surface, if I pick it up to be perpendicular to the floor, either portrait or landscape seems fine, it will activate. I believe this actually works from almost any starting point as long as the end point is the phone being upright and vertical.
The second is with it again starting flat on the table. Holding it by the bottom of the phone, moving it semi-quickly across the table, only about 5 cm seems needed, and then stopping quickly. This is a strange one which I only found when I bumped it into something on the table. I have a case so was not bothered testing this repeatedly.
I know correct my first statement. The feature is not poop. Well, not total poop. There are other instances that will activate it but I don't know how to do them reproducibly. If that's a word.
Hope this helps someone.
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I've messed around with my dad's phone. He has the Moto X as well. I can literally just wave my hand in front of the screen and it comes on. I thought that was awesome. This phone does seem a bit inconvenient if I just want to quickly get the time or my notifications. Then again that's why I have a (smart)watch. Not sure where I'm going with this.
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Thats a pretty nifty idea, if its flat... give it a bit of " These aren't the droids you're looking for" to wake the screen.
Surely cant be that hard to do.........
..... i cant do it
My active display does nothing. Doesn't activate anything even shaking the phone.
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Thats a pretty nifty idea, if its flat... give it a bit of " These aren't the droids you're looking for" to wake the screen.
Surely cant be that hard to do.........
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The Moto X (2014 and after) does it as it has other sensors on the front, the 6P doesn't. However, the Moto X (2013) did it with Kitkat as it used the proximity sensor, which was less reliable but still effective, but this was removed in Lollipop. To be fair, ambient display doesn't work nearly as well as Moto's active display. I bet a dev could activate it via proximity sensor, should people want it enough.
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I've figured it out! Feeling quite pleased with myself.
Based on the responses of others, I tried using it slightly differently. Now, I figured out two instances which regularly and reliably activate the Active Display.
The first is when the phone is flat on a surface, if I pick it up to be perpendicular to the floor, either portrait or landscape seems fine, it will activate. I believe this actually works from almost any starting point as long as the end point is the phone being upright and vertical.
The second is with it again starting flat on the table. Holding it by the bottom of the phone, moving it semi-quickly across the table, only about 5 cm seems needed, and then stopping quickly. This is a strange one which I only found when I bumped it into something on the table. I have a case so was not bothered testing this repeatedly.
I know correct my first statement. The feature is not poop. Well, not total poop. There are other instances that will activate it but I don't know how to do them reproducibly. If that's a word.
Hope this helps someone.
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When laying flat - give it a quick twist - about 45 degrees - and back again.
I see most don't agree with the implementation, but think about it. If it was more sensitive, it would be waking all the time. That's definitely less battery efficient.
Once you get used to it, it's not bad at all, and I can see devs adding more control over how it works - like a sensitivity setting.
Hint hint devs!
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When laying flat - give it a quick twist - about 45 degrees - and back again.
I see most don't agree with the implementation, but think about it. If it was more sensitive, it would be waking all the time. That's definitely less battery efficient.
Once you get used to it, it's not bad at all, and I can see devs adding more control over how it works - like a sensitivity setting.
Hint hint devs!
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Tbh, the more I use it, the more I understand why it has this implementation and you are right, there would probably be a battery burden to make it more sensitive. I just wish they could have advertised it. Maybe a deep dive YouTube video or something.
Hello, I purchased a v30 and would like to use the AOD. However, with all the burn in issues popping up all over the place, I'm a little worried about ruining my display. Does anyone know if the pixels shift to prevent burn in? Is there proof of this, such as a time lapse video or acknowledgement from lg? Thanks
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Hello, I purchased a v30 and would like to use the AOD. However, with all the burn in issues popping up all over the place, I'm a little worried about ruining my display. Does anyone know if the pixels shift to prevent burn in? Is there proof of this, such as a time lapse video or acknowledgement from lg? Thanks
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I don't have the phone myself but from what I understand yes the pixels do shift, try to use the AOD you should see that after a while it will appear slightly in a slightly different position
I had the same worry and was informed that AOD does move throughout the day. I can verify that this is true as I now leave it on with it scheduled to be off 12-5am when I should be asleep. Another tactic I've picked up to help make sure there's no burn in is to place the phone face down when I don't really need to be looking at it. (Such as now while I'm at a computer that will also show my notifications.) The proximity sensor turns off the AOD and it comes on pretty quickly when you pick it up, but not so quickly that you're wondering if it ever did turn off.
AOD does indeed move things around. Nothing seems to stay in the same place.
As for burn-in. I used mine as a sat-nav for 8 hours today and no visible burn-in on the screen.
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I had the same worry and was informed that AOD does move throughout the day. I can verify that this is true as I now leave it on with it scheduled to be off 12-5am when I should be asleep. Another tactic I've picked up to help make sure there's no burn in is to place the phone face down when I don't really need to be looking at it. (Such as now while I'm at a computer that will also show my notifications.) The proximity sensor turns off the AOD and it comes on pretty quickly when you pick it up, but not so quickly that you're wondering if it ever did turn off.
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use something like a piece of paper to cover the proximity sensor when phone is facing up will do the same trick.
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use something like a piece of paper to cover the proximity sensor when phone is facing up will do the same trick.
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I rarely have a piece of paper. Flipping over is always an option and pretty simple.
Hi. I didn't want to post a new thread.
AOD clock never changes position on my phone. Does anyone experince the same thing? It's on 8.0.0, june 1st 2018 and kernel 4.4.78.
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Hi. I didn't want to post a new thread.
AOD clock never changes position on my phone. Does anyone experince the same thing? It's on 8.0.0, june 1st 2018 and kernel 4.4.78.
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I'm on 8.0 August 2018 and 4.4.78 and mine moves. I'm not sure what the dynamics are behind what makes it move (guessing time) but I know that mine does move eventually
How long have you monitored it?
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I'm on 8.0 August 2018 and 4.4.78 and mine moves. I'm not sure what the dynamics are behind what makes it move (guessing time) but I know that mine does move eventually
How long have you monitored it?
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I've carefully placed a piece of paper over the screen to see if the clock moves and it didn't move in 10 minutes. Should I wait longer? I think it's a long time.
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I've carefully placed a piece of paper over the screen to see if the clock moves and it didn't move in 10 minutes. Should I wait longer? I think it's a long time.
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I haven't done any testing but I'm pretty sure mine has taken longer than 10 minutes though I'm not sure how long to say.
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I haven't done any testing but I'm pretty sure mine has taken longer than 10 minutes though I'm not sure how long to say.
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I've waited for 25 minutes and it didn't move. I really want to use this feature but without the risk of burn in.
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I've waited for 25 minutes and it didn't move. I really want to use this feature but without the risk of burn in.
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No one in this forum has had burn in.
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No one in this forum has had burn in.
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Yes but they might have had if the clock stood still. I mean we are talking about hours. I think it will happen eventually.
CooLasFcuK said:
Yes but they might have had if the clock stood still. I mean we are talking about hours. I think it will happen eventually.
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My understanding is the pixels move microscopically enough to prevent burn in. You may never see the clock move
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My understanding is the pixels move microscopically enough to prevent burn in. You may never see the clock move
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That makes sense but I've seen people on forums saying that they see the clock moving with their eyes. I don't know whether they are on Nougat or Oreo. I'd be glad if someone tried AOD for 30 minutes and see if the clock moves. I place a piece of paper where the clock ends and it is effective to see the movement or the lack of it.
Don't worry about it. It's also not in max brightness. I own it for a year and the screen is perfect.
I use the digital clock AOD. I notice it shifts between the top and middle of the screen throughout the day. I don't see it moving, but throughout the day I notice it's different positions.
ChazzMatt said:
My understanding is the pixels move microscopically enough to prevent burn in. You may never see the clock move
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galr said:
Don't worry about it. It's also not in max brightness. I own it for a year and the screen is perfect.
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These are the important points.
Burn-in happens when 1: pixels are at a high brightness and 2: they're holding a static image.
It's a common misconception that burn-in happens because of pixels getting partially "stuck". This doesn't apply to OLED displays; what happens is that each subpixel has a finite lifetime due to their organic elements, and will slowly use up that lifetime while on. Running at design voltage and no PWM (e.g. full brightness) will use that lifetime at almost the fastest rate possible, and images that have both dark and light areas will burn in the worst.
This is why store displays, that tend to be blasting at either 100% brightness or (if whoever set the firmware is particularly stupid) full-bright/outdoors mode with a short sequence of static advertisement screens, can burn up even the most durable OLED screen.
As I understand, AOD is fairly dim even on its "bright" setting. It probably achieves this brightness via both voltage and PWM, so the pixels are both only actually powered part of the time and at much lower than design voltage; even if only one of these is true, that means each subpixel is being run at far below design tolerances, with an increase in lifetime as the voltage decreases/flicker increases.
That, the changing time, and the slight shifting of the image means that it's pretty unlikely that you'll be able to get the clock to burn in within a meaningful timeframe. If you're really worried about it, use the dim setting.
Actually My wife's display had some discoloration issues LG replaced the panel is all good now. Me personally I don't use Always on display I like to save battery even if its two percent. Now my HP Touchpad that I use as a clock has major burn in LOL.