Remote Control Protocol to control from External Device? - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Was talking with Pioneer regarding their AVIC series as well as others but mainly about using an Android phone to control Pandora just like they allow the iPhone too. This is what they asked me:
Do the Android phones support the remote control protocol that is required to control the phone from an external unit? That remote protocol is why the AVIC-X920BT works with the iPhone through PandoraLink.
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Im trying to get Pioneer to come out with an Android app to control the phone(or at least Pandora) from the headunit
Not sure if the Galaxy S/Vibrant comes is compatible or if another Android platform is? I can play and pause Pandora from my X920BT head unit through Bluetooth but would rather control everything from the headunit like most people can that have an Iphone and a Pioneer Head Unit with Pandora Link.

It sounds like you're thinking of AVRCP, which is a standard BT profile. There are different versions of it that reveal different capabilities.
1.0 covers basic play/pause/stop. 1.3 adds the ability to see what the current status is (playing, paused or stopped), as well as metadata (such as artist, album and track information). 1.4 adds even more features, such as the ability to control multiple devices, browse through the devices' metadata including a "now playing" playlist, and even basic search abilities.
However, what you are talking about seems to be the reverse of what most people want with their handsets and BT. I'm not certain if AVRCP support is inherently bidirectional. However, now that there is a name to what you are looking for, perhaps someone can steer you in the right direction.
(And, BTW, this really ought to be moved to Vibrant Q&A, since this really has nothing to do with development.)

Thanks, can a mod move this thread for me? Greatly appreciated

I am with you on this.....
Jefe21 said:
Was talking with Pioneer regarding their AVIC series as well as others but mainly about using an Android phone to control Pandora just like they allow the iPhone too. This is what they asked me:
Im trying to get Pioneer to come out with an Android app to control the phone(or at least Pandora) from the headunit
Not sure if the Galaxy S/Vibrant comes is compatible or if another Android platform is? I can play and pause Pandora from my X920BT head unit through Bluetooth but would rather control everything from the headunit like most people can that have an Iphone and a Pioneer Head Unit with Pandora Link.
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I also have a X920BT and would certainly LOVE to see the Android interface working. Shout if you do need help. But it seems like you made more progress than me. I contacted them about three months ago and it does not seem like they were very interested in talking with me. You are one step ahead.
Maybe if we can get more Andoid/X920BT users to pole them for attention, they may do something about it....
Good work!

Heres the email I got from Pioneer:
Thank you for contacting Pioneer Electronics, Inc.
Unfortunately as of right now we have not received any information about adding support for the Android operating system. But with the Droid phones becoming extremely popular and more and more people asking for it could just be a matter of time before we issue some update to add that feature.
Thank You,
Kevin
Customer Service Representative
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From email: [email protected]
Everyone needs to start emailing them so they will be forced to come out with this feature

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[Q] Use phone as bluetooth headset for tablet?

Okay this is what I've been wondering...is there anyway to use an Android phone as a bluetooth headset for the Galaxy Tab (or any Android tablet for that matter)? im planning on getting T-Mobile's prepaid Android 2.2 phone and i want to keep my minute usage down by using Google Voice on the tablet. And since they both have bluetooth capabilities it should be possible to use it in this manner, right? I do not want to use one of those hideous, uncomfortable bluetooth headsets because im already going to have a bluetooth device (the phone) with me that im more comfortable using. Is there any way to do this or an app that enables this functionality?
Isn't that like call forwarding or something?
no because your not forwarding your calls, your handling the call over bluetooth. this is what im talking about: people will call my tablet's Google Voice number, and I will be able to use my phone as a bluetooth headset for the tablet to take the call
its the same concept as bluetooth headsets today:
-you get a bluetooth headset
-you pair the headset with your phone
-you take calls on your phone but talk and listen through your bluetooth headset
the way im trying to do this is:
-you get a bluetooth-capable phone
-you pair the phone with your tablet
-you take calls on your tablet but talk and listen through your bluetooth phone
since the phone already has everything that a bluetooth headset has--microphone, earpiece, bluetooth radio-- it should be able to pair with the tablet and work in the same manner as a regular bluetooth headset
yes!
Im looking thos for months my friend. But no one seems to know anything. We are talkin for clever and serius programming so it is not so easy to find sonething.
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I have been looking to do the same thing with my Samsung tab. Instead of walking around stucked to my face.
Yes I could use a BT headset, but it won't dial out. There is a specific Bluetooth profile to do this.
i don't know much about this, but wouldn't the phone would need the bluetooth protocol that a headset uses? someone would have to make a program that would allow the phone to be used as a headset, but then also decide what gets priority if the phone needs to also access the mic or earpiece when you are on a call...
i don't mind simply using a bluetooth - that is more comfortable and flexible than me holding a phone in one hand.
I am seekung solution too.
I'm looking for a solution to this as well. But a different application.
using a tablet as a car-computer.
leave phone in pocket. take and view phone calls though tablet, which is mounted to dash, which is routed to the car audio system with strategically placed microphone built into dash.
I'm surprised no one has made this... seems like something many would be after.
looking for the same here :-(
I want to buy a cheap tablet to leave in the car and use as a gps.
I'd like it to being able to be connected to my phone and work as a bluetooth hands free of sorts.
anyone has 2 android devices to try and connected and see what happens?
Me too - so i'm posting here to show that there is really demand for solution
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The Phone app apk is there but it doesn't work Honeycomb, Google Voice also FCs. I think it's because Google knows it would take away from the Android Phones and that would piss off the carriers.
Why should it take people away from carriers? Me want to use my communicator as phone №2, so i could not take from my pocket the first one.
Yuna said:
Why should it take people away from carriers? Me want to use my communicator as phone №2, so i could not take from my pocket the first one.
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Because you could Google Voice, Skype, etc for a lot cheaper than a carrier.
same same, would be great solution to using tab as a phone
What we are seeking is the Bluetooth HFP (Hands-Free Protocol) (ver. 1.5) HF Profile. Many newer OEM car head-units support the HFP hands-free (HF) mode while most all Android devices and tablets support the audio gateway (AG) mode only.
I am not a developer but I would suspect that getting the AG portion of HFP to work would require changes to the BT drivers. If anyone has the HF mode working on an Android device, please chime in!
ianwood said:
What we are seeking is the Bluetooth HFP (Hands-Free Protocol) (ver. 1.5) HF Profile. Many newer OEM car head-units support the HFP hands-free (HF) mode while most all Android devices and tablets support the audio gateway (AG) mode only.
I am not a developer but I would suspect that getting the AG portion of HFP to work would require changes to the BT drivers. If anyone has the HF mode working on an Android device, please chime in!
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Do any devs have ideas? This would make tons of tablet owners happy. In an ideal world, we would be able to keep an Android phone in our pocket, and send/receive texts on the tablet through our phone carrier, as well as make and receive calls using our tablets as a Bluetooth speaker phone. This marriage of tablet to phone would be awesome, and generate a lot of money and interest in the app market.
Does anyone know if there has been any progress on using a phone as a bluetooth headset for a tablet? I am trying to figure out how to do this with a samsung galaxy gio and a samsung galaxy tab 7.
junglizste said:
I'm looking for a solution to this as well. But a different application.
using a tablet as a car-computer.
leave phone in pocket. take and view phone calls though tablet, which is mounted to dash, which is routed to the car audio system with strategically placed microphone built into dash.
I'm surprised no one has made this... seems like something many would be after.
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This is the exact solution I am looking for! Come on developers of the world, how hard can it be!
So is the problem with this that Android doesn't support the necessary profiles in its bluetooth stack? Is there any way to add the profiles ourselves?
It would be nice if a developer would look into this.

Bluetooth Remote To Control An Android Phone

Hello, i've done a quick search on the forum here for what i'm looking for but all the posts are old and everyone seemed completely clueless at the time so maybe someone will have an answer now.
I have an LG Ally which is running Android 2.22 if I recall correctly. I currently have a setup so that I plug my phone into my stereo through AUX so I can use my phone to play music, and as a GPS when needed. I use the Music system that's built into android phone, but when i'm driving it's very hard to change the songs and still drive. I know they make bluetooth headphone that allow you to pause, skip, etc so there must be a bluetooth remote control that I can pair to my phone so I don't have to take my eyes off the road in order to change a song.
To make this clear, I am NOT looking for an app, nor am I trying to turn my phone into a remote control. I can't stress this enough, because a lot of posts I read while looking into this a lot of people where getting confused and thinking the person wanted to use their phone as a remote and this is not the case.
I would greatly appreciate some help finding something that would work, since i've not seemed to be able to find anything.
Sony Liveview
Check out the Sony Liveview to use as a bluetooth remote for you android based phones.
I would post a link but since i am a new member it will not let me so just google Sony liveview
Sony Smartwatch
Looks like the Sony Liveview is the older version so may want to look at the newer Sony SmartWatch
Maybe a Bluetooth game controller? Probably still need a helper app.
Not yet
I'm looking for the same exact thing, looks like it is such a small market that there are no products to suit the need.
There is a remote called Satechi BT Media remote that is compatible with iPhones.
If it works like like a Apple Bluetooth Keyboard, media functions should work with Galaxy Note, but I don't know about LG. Every company use different Bluetooth stack.
youtube.com/watch?v=sne9B0j4Z64
androbo said:
There is a remote called Satechi BT Media remote that is compatible with iPhones.
If it works like like a Apple Bluetooth Keyboard, media functions should work with Galaxy Note, but I don't know about LG. Every company use different Bluetooth stack.
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So i know this thread is a little old and i realize this doesnt directly help the OP, but could an IR remote, plugged into a USB host like a moto dock or one of those cables that enables the host command through the mini usb port possibly work? I suppose youd still need some sort of software to control the function...
I was thinking about this the other day when i had my phone attached hdmi to the tv, watching netflix. Once the episode was over, id have to get up and pick something else. A remote or a bt mouse might be a decent solution, but a mouse isnt very sexy as youd have to move around and click, as opposed to just using a directional pad or an arrow key.
dog199200 said:
Hello, i've done a quick search on the forum here for what i'm looking for but all the posts are old and everyone seemed completely clueless at the time so maybe someone will have an answer now.
I have an LG Ally which is running Android 2.22 if I recall correctly. I currently have a setup so that I plug my phone into my stereo through AUX so I can use my phone to play music, and as a GPS when needed. I use the Music system that's built into android phone, but when i'm driving it's very hard to change the songs and still drive. I know they make bluetooth headphone that allow you to pause, skip, etc so there must be a bluetooth remote control that I can pair to my phone so I don't have to take my eyes off the road in order to change a song.
To make this clear, I am NOT looking for an app, nor am I trying to turn my phone into a remote control. I can't stress this enough, because a lot of posts I read while looking into this a lot of people where getting confused and thinking the person wanted to use their phone as a remote and this is not the case.
I would greatly appreciate some help finding something that would work, since i've not seemed to be able to find anything.
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I was looking for exactly the same thing, for the same purpose.
I wasn't aware of the bluetooth HID protocol until now and hence I was thinking about a different solution:
I thought about using a bluetooth headset for media control as these often include all the media control buttons.
However I only wanted to use the media buttons of the bluetooth headset while I was playing music through the headphone jack in my car.
Therefore I was seeking for a solution to connect the bluetooth headset in a way that its buttons can be used for media control but no music would be streamed to the headset or could be muted.
I think it's possible but some android hacking might be involved.
But that's a thing of the past with this new Satechi Bluetooth Remote, the amazon sales description states that Android devices are supported as long as they support Bluetooth HID. The customer review section also includes a guy who succesfully paired the Satechi with his Galaxy III.
The Satechi was introduced a couple of months ago so maybe other manufacturers will introduce similar and cheaper devices.
If your Android OS supports Bluetooth HID you can also use some Bluetooth HID devices which are advertised to work with iOS only (ie Apple Bluetooth Keyboard).
dog199200 said:
Hello, i've done a quick search on the forum here for what i'm looking for but all the posts are old and everyone seemed completely clueless at the time so maybe someone will have an answer now.
I have an LG Ally which is running Android 2.22 if I recall correctly. I currently have a setup so that I plug my phone into my stereo through AUX so I can use my phone to play music, and as a GPS when needed. I use the Music system that's built into android phone, but when i'm driving it's very hard to change the songs and still drive. I know they make bluetooth headphone that allow you to pause, skip, etc so there must be a bluetooth remote control that I can pair to my phone so I don't have to take my eyes off the road in order to change a song.
To make this clear, I am NOT looking for an app, nor am I trying to turn my phone into a remote control. I can't stress this enough, because a lot of posts I read while looking into this a lot of people where getting confused and thinking the person wanted to use their phone as a remote and this is not the case.
I would greatly appreciate some help finding something that would work, since i've not seemed to be able to find anything.
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So this is a pretty old thread but Motorola has a product called the RZ100 which should fit the bill nicely. I use it for my GS3 (I travel quite a bit, so gs3 + HDMI out adapter + this remote = bliss) and it works without issues. The only thing I would like is an app that allows remapping the buttons on it (Ahem Android developpers...)
hampox said:
I was looking for exactly the same thing, for the same purpose.
I wasn't aware of the bluetooth HID protocol until now and hence I was thinking about a different solution:
I thought about using a bluetooth headset for media control as these often include all the media control buttons.
However I only wanted to use the media buttons of the bluetooth headset while I was playing music through the headphone jack in my car.
Therefore I was seeking for a solution to connect the bluetooth headset in a way that its buttons can be used for media control but no music would be streamed to the headset or could be muted.
I think it's possible but some android hacking might be involved.
But that's a thing of the past with this new Satechi Bluetooth Remote, the amazon sales description states that Android devices are supported as long as they support Bluetooth HID. The customer review section also includes a guy who succesfully paired the Satechi with his Galaxy III.
The Satechi was introduced a couple of months ago so maybe other manufacturers will introduce similar and cheaper devices.
If your Android OS supports Bluetooth HID you can also use some Bluetooth HID devices which are advertised to work with iOS only (ie Apple Bluetooth Keyboard).
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i want the EXACTLY function as u said, just plain media control to pair with my buttonless in ear earphone, only Satechi available now? kinda bulky consider i just need the media control alone.. haiz..
hampox said:
I thought about using a bluetooth headset for media control as these often include all the media control buttons.
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Thank you so much.
I'm using my Sensation with a Harman Kardon Go+Play and therefore had the same problem as OP.
I read your post and realized that I already own a Logilink BT0019 for other purposes.
I paired it and voilá, the music plays via the Harman Kardon, but the BT0019 media buttons still work.
Only Play/Pause and Next/Previous Song though because the sound level Buttons only change the Headsets volume which means that I do now need two remotes (the BT0019 +the provided Harman Kardon Remote for volume control.) but okay, cool.
I got the BT0019 for 22€, so it's a decently low priced solution too, even if I would not need the Headset for other purposes.
I know it's not bluetooth but the Mele F10 air mouse can do the trick via USB OTG.
I'm looking for a similar solution to control the media playing on an Android tablet for my daughter while on road trips. We have a Nexus 10 currently and will probably be getting a Nexus 7/Kindle Fire HD/Nook HD+ soley for her uses. Are there any android apps that might also achieve this using bluetooth? If I could control the media on the tablet using my Galaxy Nexus phone, that would be even better.
I succesfully managed to get what the OP asked for with an old TomTom bluetooth remote like this one (www ebay com/itm/331084156246) thanks to the informations provided by Norvan Gorgi at norvangorgi blogspot it/2011/10/using-tomtom-bluetooth-remote-with.html (insert dots as required ), and it worked brilliantly with both my SGS3 and my first gen Galaxy Note.
Basically, the remote is recognized as an external keyboard, so all you need is to remap its keys (the tomtom remote has 10 buttons) according to your needs, as per the instruction provided by Norvan in his blog.
Thing is, this stopped working when I installed CyanogenMod 10.2 on both my mobiles, appearently because android 4.3 now does not recognizes the remote as a keyboard anymore, but rather as an 'input device', ie with a nice 'joystick' icon next to it (and my own keyboard definition files won't work anymore).
Anyway, once paired with a 4.3 device the four directional keys and the central 'ok' one will sitll work, so it might still prove useful for someone, even if it does not have proper 'direct' media functions as it would have when set up as a keyboard.
Satechi Remote Control
I recently purchased the Satechi remote control because even though it says its specifically made for iOS, people in the reviews said it works on android and also because it works on 3rd party applications like spotify.
I have two Samsung devices, my phone which is Samsung Galaxy Note II and a Samsung Galaxy Player 4.2 which is just used to download my spotify playlist for the car. since the Galaxy Player 4.2 only has 512mb of ram its really annoying when i want to change song, very slow and I realised I pay a lot of attention to the device while driving and that isnt good!
so I bought the remote thinking it would help. now the problem is it doesnt connect to android devices because it requires bluetooth HID, according to a few posts found on this website and a few others, I downloaded bluetooth keyboard easy connect and on my phone it worked fine. however on my galaxy player it didnt work. it just keeps TRYING to connect, the device is running 2.3.6.
my question is, is there any other application i can use or anything I can do to use this remote on my mp3 player?
I realize this thread is very old but I found this thread searching for the exact same thing. I have not ordered this yet, but the Amazon reviews seem to suggest this item is exactly what I have been looking for!
Amazon link
Any current suggestions?
Do remotes just work as a HID keyboard or keyboard-mouse combo?

2005 Audi A6 3.2Q & Bluetooth

Prior to my recent discovery of the XDA community and others alike, I searched through Audi forums with no such luck to finding my answer.
Now that I have access to the minds of the tech world, I figured my answer might be answered quickly and correctly.
I have paired my Rezound to my car without a hitch (with ICS & CleamROM, the early GB stock acted up constantly). However, I am looking for a way, if at all possible, to upload my contacts via Bluetooth (there is a dock in the center console but I doubt they make an attachment for the Rezound). I would also like to be able to play music from my music apps such as Pandora, Google Music, etc. via Bluetooth.
I bought the car used, and I'm going to assume the software in the car (it has navi) hasn't been updated since it was first purchased.
My goal is to get a definitive answer as to whether my car is capable of either (uploading contacts via Bluetooth & streaming music via Bluetooth over the car speakers) and if so, what is needed to go about doing so (do I need to update the cars software and such or download an app or tweak some settings to make it work).
Appreciate what you guys do here, been utilizing this forum for months now and have learned a ton. Hoping to soon use my new found knowledge to help others that are new & transition for my noob status of just reading, learning & asking questions.
Sent from my Rooted, $-Off'ed, CleanROM 1.3 Dev. Edition Rezound!

[Q] Tablet as handsfree (HFP 1.6)?

Does Android 4.1 allow a device to serve as a Hands-Free Profile (HFP) device? Similar to the way many newer cars come with integrated Bluetooth/HFP, I would like to use my tablet (Nexus 7) as a front-end for my phone. When an incoming call comes in, the phone should relay the call over Bluetooth to the tablet; it should also allow the tablet to make outgoing calls via Bluetooth over the phone's network.
Please note that I am not interested in solutions such as GrooveIP, Talkatone, and SIPDroid. I am specifically looking for Bluetooth HFP.
I've done quite a bit of searching but have not seen an app that does this. I wouldn't mind looking into developing such a product - but I first wanted to know if the HSP 1.6 host API was available in Android 4.1. I've seen resources stating it was available in ICS 4.0, but I believe this is to allow Android devices to connect to third-party HSP devices - I'm looking to do the opposite (i.e. have the Android device serve as the HSP host).
i am also curious about this.
fxftwo said:
i am also curious about this.
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Me too
For those of us that plans to install a Android tablet in the car for music etc. this would be tha last part to make it a complete in-car device.
I am another curious one about this. The only devices I know of for sure that can do this are the 3.6 and 4.2 samsung galaxy players. Unfortunately, I have the 4.0 galaxy player, that doesn't support it. The galaxy players run gb, not jb, btw.
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Did anybody found a solution, and trying to add this feature to my android app.
anonim1 said:
Does Android 4.1 allow a device to serve as a Hands-Free Profile (HFP) device? Similar to the way many newer cars come with integrated Bluetooth/HFP, I would like to use my tablet (Nexus 7) as a front-end for my phone. When an incoming call comes in, the phone should relay the call over Bluetooth to the tablet; it should also allow the tablet to make outgoing calls via Bluetooth over the phone's network.
Please note that I am not interested in solutions such as GrooveIP, Talkatone, and SIPDroid. I am specifically looking for Bluetooth HFP.
I've done quite a bit of searching but have not seen an app that does this. I wouldn't mind looking into developing such a product - but I first wanted to know if the HSP 1.6 host API was available in Android 4.1. I've seen resources stating it was available in ICS 4.0, but I believe this is to allow Android devices to connect to third-party HSP devices - I'm looking to do the opposite (i.e. have the Android device serve as the HSP host).
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From what I can gather:
* Bluetooth defines HFP to have two roles: the Audio Gateway (AG) role and the Hands-Free (HF) role.
* Android doesn't natively support the HF role.
I too am interested in exactly what you are describing -- would like to use a tablet as the infotainment hub of a vehicle. I would happy to be a part of or organize a bounty to support development of such a capability in CM10.
-jd
Someone custom-implemented the needed Bluetooth role
Looks like some Android device has custom implementations of both A2DP sink role and hands free unit role. I can't post links yet. Google this:
AllGo Systems Demonstrates Android Based Automotive Infotainment Solutions with Fast Boot-up as a Critical Feature at SAE Convergence 2012 - Detroit, Michigan, USA
n230384 said:
Looks like some Android device has custom implementations of both A2DP sink role and hands free unit role. I can't post links yet. Google this:
AllGo Systems Demonstrates Android Based Automotive Infotainment Solutions with Fast Boot-up as a Critical Feature at SAE Convergence 2012 - Detroit, Michigan, USA
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any leads if this is available on android yet? (Hands free profile)
There's some development about this but I'm not sure it's possible yet.
have a look at the links here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions...a-receiver-for-a2dp-profile/28892944#28892944
I want, too
to use android device as hands free

Does anything like this even exist? RE: Bluetooth...

So I have a brand new Toyota Camry 2014. It has a bluetooth setup where it streams music from my devices (Nexus 5, Ipod Touch 4, etc.) Now, the bluetooth setup is not the top of the line deal. For personal reasons, I didn't feel it warranted an extra $7k+ for iRadio and such.
Now, it does do things like display the name of artist, song etc when I stream from Google Play, Pandora, etc.
So I was wondering, are there any programs/hacks or whatever other terminology might fit in here that would benefit from connecting from my Nexus 5 to the bluetooth in my car? For example, is there a way to stream the bluetooth from my phone to the car where it displays something like Waze on the in dash bluetooth screen? I don't know if I am explaining this right, I hope I am. I don't even know what to refer to this as?
If there is a term, or phrase or whatever to look into this scene as, can you please explain to me and link me?
Thank you,
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