[Q] Clock gone mad - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, I thought someone could help me out here. Clock on my htc hd2 gone mad. Let me explain.
At some point last week after I installed new ROM (Omega) I've noticed that clock on my phone started to show wrong time (only hours are wrong, minutes are always correct). Event if I correct time manually they will add 2 hours to this time at some point during the day. I've checked time zone, and it is correct (GMT). The other locale settings are correct as well. I'm not sure if it happened right after I've installed this ROM or few days later. Few days ago I've installed different ROM (ChuckyROM lite), I've never had any problems with it. But again the same problem. I haven't installed any additional applications except from Microsoft MyPhone to sync contacts and texts(Time zone in myphone web interface is set to GMT as well).
Here are details shown on load:
r:2.09.50.29_2
g:15.36.50.07U
d:3.14.0466 8G
Any ideas?

Its because of the DST change recently.....
this cab from Dutty should solve it, install, soft reset, set the correct time and everything should be ok.

and check that you are dont have the intenet time ticked in the settings
because everytime you connect to your pc it will check the internet time and correct it

or just disable time synchronization, settings>menu>all settings>personal>GSM/UMTS servs>Time synchronization and untick.
And also you can choose to sync time in settings>data services, Internet time sync.
It helps me

Great, thank you all.
Hopefully I'll no longer will wake up at 5am because of wrong time in alarm clock

It's a DST problem
DST Means Daylight Savings Time, also known as Summertime.
The problem is caused by NITZ (Network Identity and Time Zone) a service hidden in:
Windows Settings >> Personal >> Phone >> GSM/UMTS Services >> Time synchronization.
This service does set the phone clock back into Summertime mode in registry.
See this post for more info.

conantroutman said:
Its because of the DST change recently.....
this cab from Dutty should solve it, install, soft reset, set the correct time and everything should be ok.
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Man, you are a life saver. I was just about ready to put an ad to sell my hd2, cause I am using it for my work and appointments are crucial to me.
The cab works fine

webpatrick said:
DST Means Daylight Savings Time, also known as Summertime.
The problem is caused by NITZ (Network Identity and Time Zone) a service hidden in:
Windows Settings >> Personal >> Phone >> GSM/UMTS Services >> Time synchronization.
This service does set the phone clock back into Summertime mode in registry.
See this post for more info.
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After we (UK) changed to daylight saving I had many of the random time changes that others on here had. I unchecked the time sync in the menus and then all was well...
That was until I noticed that now whenever I receive a text message from anyone on whichever network - the time that shows on the text is one hour ahead of the actual time. E.g. if I receive a text in the afternnon at 4:00pm the text message will show 5:00pm.
Any ideas?

the_rascal said:
That was until I noticed that now whenever I receive a text message from anyone on whichever network - the time that shows on the text is one hour ahead of the actual time. E.g. if I receive a text in the afternnon at 4:00pm the text message will show 5:00pm.
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Same here.
4:00pm phone time, 5:00pm text message time and 3:00pm G-alarm time.
Confusing? Yes.

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Time Changing by Itself?!?

So every few days my Titan will default to the Atlantic time zone instead of Eastern time, thus making my time off 1 hour. Very irritating indeed! I've disabled automatic time updates however it's still changing by itself. Any ideas? I'm running DCD 3.2.6.
Maybe.
If you go to phone -> menu -> options -> Services -> time synchronizations -> Get Settings
If the setting is on to synch time to the mobile network, try to turn it off.
Maybe.
Thanks for the response, but from my original post: "I've disabled automatic time updates". That's clearly not the problem, as it's been disabled for quite some time.
fvultee said:
Thanks for the response, but from my original post: "I've disabled automatic time updates". That's clearly not the problem, as it's been disabled for quite some time.
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Sorry, I'm blind.
When I read that I was thinking you meant the time update in activesync.
Can it be related to activesync?
As far as I know Activesync doesn't change system time automatically or otherwise for that matter?!? If it does please let me know.
fvultee said:
As far as I know Activesync doesn't change system time automatically or otherwise for that matter?!? If it does please let me know.
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Yes it can.
Sync the PDA.
Go to Activesync -> Tools -> Options
Select the PC name you are syncing with. Then select 'settings'. There is a check box for "sync date & time" there.
Actually, it does. I'm in Mexico city and AS will change the time zone for my mogul every time I sync to match the time zone on my PC. That stopped last week though; since we went out of (or is it into??) DST again this Sunday.
Older version of WinMo (i.e. 2003 and 5) made this change permanent, but I keep mine with auto time updates and it reverts back to the proper time when I turn the screen off and on again after the sync is finished.
Also, Outlook needs to be patched for proper sync to occur. Check this Microsoft article to correct the problem.
Let us know if this helped.
are you using garmin mobile xt? there was an issue of this happening, although it was strictly to 8:00 time change it might be something to look at .
Nope, I don't use Garmin XT, nor do I sync with my computer by plugging it in and using ActiveSync with a cable. Ever since I started using an Exchange Server I just sync the data that way. Strange thing is, the date hasn't had a random change in over a week now, while other weeks it would change on a daily basis. Bizarro!

[APP] Connection State Checker

HISTORY
V1.1 [2009-10-05]
1) Options dialog to change timeout to run the program automatically (10 by default) and web server to reach (www.google.com by default)
2) Option to reset statistics.
3) When the gui is opened its auto-refreshed automatically each 2 seconds
3) Minor fixes
V1.0[2009-10-04]
1) Initial release.
History
Hi
I ve developed a little program to solve a problem I ve many years ago. I use direct push so I need a permanent connection. This is achieved using activesync (direct push) or setting a connection as always on.
PROBLEM TO SOLVE:
Many times a connecion is stablished minutes or hours ago. But it doesnt work correctly. I dont know if the problem is in phone operator system, or in the device or some roms. Simply the connection is corrupted. If you try to suf a web it doesnt work. Clicking "sync" in activesync keeps rolling for ever. So I ve to close the connection manually (hang button long press) and stablishing a connection again. And then all works again
WHAT I SEARCHED AND DIDNT FIND:
1)A program that tries to reach a server (www.google.es) each x minutes. If there is an active connection but cant reach it then kill the connection and stablish it again. The program doesnt download the page content. Simply reach the server so very little data usage (a few bytes each time)
2) very little, no cpu consuming and no resident. Windows should run it each x minutes. Do its job in a few milliseconds and exit.
3) perform its job even if the device is suspended..
4) So I wrote my little program. It works correctly.
5) If the phone is in fly mode then it skip its job
USAGE:
Just install. No need to run it manually. It installs too a little GUI program (ConnectionStateCheckerGUI) to see some statistics (stored in the registry) like number of checks, corrupt connections, last check, etc. You can set the timeout (10 minutes) and server (http://www.google.com) in the registry.
My job needs a 100% safe real time mailing working. This little program guarantees it and maybe there are other people in my situation.
Greetings
Dani
pd: The black background is because of omnia2 skin. In other devices is a tipical white dialog.
OK. gracias nene.
all right!
Nice work buddy, a common problem that bugs a lot of people including you but you decided to do something about it and now we can all be happy.
May I redistribute this on my website?
thanks for that...
Thanks
Sure, you can use, upload, distribute or what you want with it
...and if someone has any suggestion....
First I was going to do icmp ping instead of http get but my phone company (and probably other) has blocked pings....
Greetings
Dani
HiĀ”
New version on first post
greetings
Dani
Any chance of a Today screen icon? That would be more helpful than having to call the program in order to see connection status.
UncleBeer said:
Any chance of a Today screen icon? That would be more helpful than having to call the program in order to see connection status.
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Good idea but MS says not to use Today plugins because arent used in WM6.5.....
The GUI only reads the statistics stored in the registry and refresh them each 2 seconds...
Dani
Thank you for this nice piece of software.
However I have few questions, right after installing and soft-resetting, then changed web reference to www.google.com and interval to 1 minute, it keeps saying that the Last Result is KO, and only Connection Fixed has the increment.
What makes it odd, is that the connection is actually OK, I can connect to www.google.com via UCWeb and Slick is running too.
This is quite bugging me, however since I only installed it for less than an hour, I'll report again whether my connection would be kept alive permanently or not by this program.
(Dopod 818Pro aka HTC Prophet/WM6.1/My Buble Blue ROM by varanusvincent)
Andi
cumisquid said:
Thank you for this nice piece of software.
However I have few questions, right after installing and soft-resetting, then changed web reference to www.google.com and interval to 1 minute, it keeps saying that the Last Result is KO, and only Connection Fixed has the increment.
What makes it odd, is that the connection is actually OK, I can connect to www.google.com via UCWeb and Slick is running too.
This is quite bugging me, however since I only installed it for less than an hour, I'll report again whether my connection would be kept alive permanently or not by this program.
Andi
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Hi
Please dont remove "http://" because this is used by WinInet to choose the correct destination. Leave http://www.google.com (or any other site but using http://) and it will work again....
Dani
I did, it's http://www.google.com, with the http://
The connection is still KO (though Slick is up and running smoothly)
Does it matter if the GPRS connection has the proxy setup?
And when I tried disconnecting the GPRS, and then use the Check Now, it won't reconnect.
Oh, btw, the Last Check field is always empty.
Andi
cumisquid said:
I did, it's http://www.google.com, with the http://
The connection is still KO (though Slick is up and running smoothly)
Does it matter if the GPRS connection has the proxy setup?
And when I tried disconnecting the GPRS, and then use the Check Now, it won't reconnect.
Andi
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Yes, for sure is related with GPRS Proxy. Let me take a look at this.....
Andi,
Could you test this version? I ve added support for GPRS proxy. It works in my network but I dont use proxy. Could you try it?
Thanks
Dani,
Sorry for the late reply. I have just finished installing and voila! The Last Check is not empty anymore. I have changed the web reference to http://www.google.com, and interval still to 1 minute, and guess what, now the Last Result is OK!! and Connections OK is now the one who gets the increment. So yes! It works! When WM finished loading up, and when I use the Check Now function, it is now connecting the GPRS automatically.
So I supposed it would close and then reconnect GPRS if ever the connection gets corrupted, right?
Once again, Bravo!
Andi
Just wondering really, if I can get it scheduled for certain time only? Or I can get it stop, perhaps? It would be better than filling in the interval time of 360 minutes every night?
Hi
It seems to work correctly. Tomorrow I will comvert the beta im release amd probably will add period of checking as I did in bandswitch
Dani
Dani,
Just find another thing here.
I did say it does make an automatic connection, it *is* connecting, however, i have just found out, it does *not* end up connected at all.
What I meant by connecting, the antenna icon is having two arrows and the small box with G in it, but it won't be connected at the end of the animation.
The Connection Fix number is added, but since there is no connection in real.
In the end, I still have to use UCWeb or Slick to get connected.
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Okay, strange enough, I changed the interval to 5 minutes, and after awaited for 2 times trial, it did finally made the connection. Hm.
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I did try certain things again. I changed back the interval to 1 minute. Then I tried the following:
* Changed the web reference to http://wap.telkomsel.com (the provider's default wap page), 3 times trial, all failed.
* Changed the web reference to http://www.google.co.id, 2 times trial, finally connected.
* Changed the web reference to http://www.google.com, 3 times trial, all failed.
* Changed the web reference to http://208.67.219.230/ (www.google.com ip address), 3 times trial, very short timed trial, all failed. I supposed it does not accept IP address as a reference?
I'm not an expert in this area, however, it does seem to me that it's related to session time-out thing.
Once the time-out reached, it drops the on-going connection trial. I concluded this because I checked my Data plan's balance, and nothing's to be deducted during the failed session.
So the work around I finally do is to change the registry at HKLM/Comm/ConnMgr/Providers/{myGPRSconn-hash-number}/title_of_conn/AlwaysOn value to decimal 1.
After that, it would get the connection established, even if it seems it doesn't receive any reply from the referred web, get passed all the session time-out variable, until the complete handshake (if this is the correct term).
Andi
wow, that was a deep test. Thanks.
Tomorrow I will try to find a gprs server with proxy to do try/error system
danielherrero said:
Many times a connecion is stablished minutes or hours ago. But it doesnt work correctly. I dont know if the problem is in phone operator system, or in the device or some roms. Simply the connection is corrupted. If you try to suf a web it doesnt work. Clicking "sync" in activesync keeps rolling for ever. So I ve to close the connection manually (hang button long press) and stablishing a connection again. And then all works again
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Hello Dani,
It has been some time since you posted here. Are you still supporting or working on this app? If you are I would like to ask a question or two having tried the app on a TMOUS HD2 recently.
A lot of the time the app works exactly as you intended - perhaps 50% or better improvement. But sometimes it is not able to disconnect and re-establish the connection for some reason. I find that it will end up in a near permanent KO result loop.
At these times the data connection is established (H or 3G) but no app can successfully connect (no email, no browser). Your app will continue trying but is not successful.
At such a time if I manually drop the data connection (via Touch X action screen, for example) the connection can be re-established within 15-30 seconds of an app trying for data. It is not immediate - some app will have to ask for a data connection and it takes some 15+ seconds before it can successfully continue.
What I am wondering is how your app is trying to do this and how is the data disconnect of Touch X different. I hope I explain it clearly.
.
ny_limited said:
Hello Dani,
It has been some time since you posted here. Are you still supporting or working on this app? If you are I would like to ask a question or two having tried the app on a TMOUS HD2 recently.
A lot of the time the app works exactly as you intended - perhaps 50% or better improvement. But sometimes it is not able to disconnect and re-establish the connection for some reason. I find that it will end up in a near permanent KO result loop.
At these times the data connection is established (H or 3G) but no app can successfully connect (no email, no browser). Your app will continue trying but is not successful.
At such a time if I manually drop the data connection (via Touch X action screen, for example) the connection can be re-established within 15-30 seconds of an app trying for data. It is not immediate - some app will have to ask for a data connection and it takes some 15+ seconds before it can successfully continue.
What I am wondering is how your app is trying to do this and how is the data disconnect of Touch X different. I hope I explain it clearly.
.
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Hi
Let me took a look at this

[Q] Messed-up timestamp on sms, G-Alarm gone mad etc...

Hello
Since the Daylight Saving time went ahead this past weekend, my HD2 has lost the plot. After reading a few messages on here I decided there was no solution for the myriad of problems I am experiencing.
1) I have disabled Internet Sync for the clock so at least now phone displays the correct time, however
2) my G-Alarm eventhough it rings at the correct time it always tells me my alarm will go off one hour ahead of time, for example when I go to bed at midnight and set the alarm for 7 am it says I have 8 hours to go...
3) SMS timestamps are all over the place.. Everytime I reply to someone my reply goes above the message I am replying to because I have manually set my phone to be taking into account DST but apparently Orange arent sending the correct data?
If anyone has a suggestion that doesnt involve calling Orange or HTC (called both, neither had a solution and both blamed the other) and if there is a solution that doesn't involve UMTS and Internet Sync please do let me know.
Bottom line please help!!
Try this:
Start - Settings - Menu - All settings - personal - phone - GSM & UMTS services - time synchronization - settings > delete all checks.
dragmark said:
Try this:
Start - Settings - Menu - All settings - personal - phone - GSM & UMTS services - time synchronization - settings > delete all checks.
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Thank you for the suggestion, I did that two days ago and since then still all of my messages come with the wrong time stamp through and G-Alarm thinks I should have one more hour of sleep.
Ollipuss said:
Thank you for the suggestion, I did that two days ago and since then still all of my messages come with the wrong time stamp through and G-Alarm thinks I should have one more hour of sleep.
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I've had the same problem with the sms timestamp (G-Alarm was OK), but this is what I did and it worked for me:
- disable sense in Start > Settings > Home > Items > (untick HTC Sense)
- go to Start > Settings > Personal > Phone > GSM/UMTS Services > Time Synchronization (untick Auto sync)
- set up the correct time and time zone in Start > Settings > Clocks& Alarms (I changed my timezone from Prague to Berlin/Rome)
- soft reset
- enable sense in Start > Settings > Home > Items > (check HTC Sense)
- softreset
try it, maybe it will work for you too...
dragmark said:
I've had the same problem with the sms timestamp (G-Alarm was OK), but this is what I did and is worked for me:
- disable sense in Start > Settings > Home > Items > (untick HTC Sense)
- go to Start > Settings > Personal > Phone > GSM/UMTS Services > Time Synchronization (untick Auto sync)
- set up the correct time and time zone in Start > Settings > Clocks& Alarms (I changed my timezone from Prague to Berlin/Rome)
- soft reset
- enable sense in Start > Settings > Home > Items > (check HTC Sense)
- softreset
try it, maybe it will work for you too...
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Thanks, I will try it and report back. fingers crossed!
Sorry to report back to say it did not work... SMS' timestamp it still one hour ahead. Maybe I should ditch the HD2 and buy a primitive nokia =(
Ollipuss said:
Sorry to report back to say it did not work... SMS' timestamp it still one hour ahead. Maybe I should ditch the HD2 and buy a primitive nokia =(
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Sorry to hear that,
well then it's time to call HTC or your provider
Been having the same problem, for me disabling operator time sync and internet time sync and then connecting to the laptop via active sync and letting them both sync has sorted the problem for me.
matty538 said:
Been having the same problem, for me disabling operator time sync and internet time sync and then connecting to the laptop via active sync and letting them both sync has sorted the problem for me.
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You know matty538 I might just try that it's the only thing I have not tried and I have reached the end of my thether heheh. Thanks for sharing the info.
matty538 said:
Been having the same problem, for me disabling operator time sync and internet time sync and then connecting to the laptop via active sync and letting them both sync has sorted the problem for me.
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I was experiencing the same... This actually did the trick.
Thanks...
matty538 said:
Been having the same problem, for me disabling operator time sync and internet time sync and then connecting to the laptop via active sync and letting them both sync has sorted the problem for me.
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Matty you are a GENIUS!
It worked all of the time dependant functions are finally ok!
Thank you thank you thank you.

[Q] ActiveSync problem

So here is the thing. From time to time, mostly hour by hour, my Leo connects with internet and changes time one hour forward. Always, after I notice the change I turn the clock back, but it's not a solution. And one more thing, after that, in task manager, activesync is always present. I tried to decline Location service, tweaking the registry as advised few weeks ago on xda main page. I seroiusly need help in disableing activesync, because it really gets on my nerve. I have a data plan from my operator, but those constant time changes are annoying and confuseing sometimes (especcialy in the morning). Thank You for the solution (if there is any) in advance
as for time changes you'll find few threads on disabling the GSM time sync, also check in Settings / Data services if the internet time sync is disabled
for ActiveSync check here

[Q] App: Social Networks (Motoblur)

Hi
The app "social networks" (already installed as part of motoblur package) keeps "forgetting" to update from time to time. Anyone else has the same problem or knows a solution?
The app does not have a menu to manually update or change any settings.
Right!!! I have the same problem I'm not able to find setting for synchronization...I dont have understand how often the message of facebook (motoblure) are checked??
usually it must be checked every couple minutes as it always seems up to date, but now mine hasn't synced since two days ago. Restarting the phone didn't help either.
I've noticed that after the update (coincidence?) my widget fails to update. This works for me:
menu>settings>data manager>data delivery>background data (toggle the setting off then on) and escape. Seems to keep me going until the next morning. I think the smart battery saving settings that are in effect overnight (default) clog up the works so I need to repeat the process daily...
Yeah, it seems to have failed after update 2.21 > 2.51
And there is no way to manually refresh.

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