Hi all,
I am thinking of selling my x10 and purchasing Desire.Is it a good idea.
No! Better wait for the first quarter, when new phones will be introduce in the market...
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No! Better wait for the first quarter, when new phones will be introduce in the market...
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First, ask this question in desire forums ;-)
Second: one thing better in x10 is slightly bigger screen. In practice this means about two lines of book in aldiko. Width and number of pixels are the same.
I have both phones now, first bought x10, then desire...currently looking at one rom per day thanks to easy rom backup. (now: defrost)
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No! Better wait for the first quarter, when new phones will be introduce in the market...
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New phones wont be fully cracked and modded, and certainly wont have similar price to x10..
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Hi all,
I am thinking of selling my x10 and purchasing Desire.Is it a good idea.
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It's a freakin' awesome idea...!!
I'd be keeping ideas like that to myself though, someone might steal it and use it themselves.
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Hi all,
I am thinking of selling my x10 and purchasing Desire.Is it a good idea.
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Why sell a 7 month old phone just to buy an 8 month old phone?
Try the Desire HD or Desire Z if you want a newer phone.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=2964&idPhone2=3077
except the MT issue on X10, the x10 is much bether bether camera, larger display more rom, battery life etc ..
me and probably thousand people wait for a custom rom witch alow MT/ or at least dual touch
x10 vs desire
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=2964&idPhone2=3077
except the MT issue on X10, the x10 is much bether bether camera, larger display more rom, battery life etc ..
me and probably thousand people wait for a custom rom witch alow MT/ or at least dual touch
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Camera: complementary and not fundamental to the workings of a smart phone.
Dispaly: 3.8 inch amoled with multitouch better than 4 inch TFT single touch
Rom: I think RAM is more important to the user and the dseire has 512mb compared to the x10 384mb
Battery Lifeurely subjective
Let's not forget that you get froyo and all its goodness on the desire while the x10, save for the devs cracking the bootloader, is destined to die with 2.1. Also HTC sense much better and more functional than the dreary UXP.
I don't think you'll find any review on any of the tech blogs that actually put the x10 ahead of the desire. The desire wins there unanimously.
Having said all that, I think like others who have said, you should wait until q1 next year when newer phones get released and then make your choice. Unless you want to at least get something reasonable back for your x10 before it becomes valueless.
I think that the crux of this question lies in the users needs...
For example.. tell us your top 3 uses of your phone.. (texting, watching video, browsing, streaming video from websites, listening to music, camera..... etc.etc)...
That way you'll get some feedback on the elements that really matter to you rather than having everyone commenting on the elements that matter to them..
For me.. I wouldn't have a Desire.. simply because it's ugly.. but that's just my opinion on a feature of the phone which is important to me.
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Camera: complementary and not fundamental to the workings of a smart phone.
Dispaly: 3.8 inch amoled with multitouch better than 4 inch TFT single touch
Rom: I think RAM is more important to the user and the dseire has 512mb compared to the x10 384mb
Battery Lifeurely subjective
Let's not forget that you get froyo and all its goodness on the desire while the x10, save for the devs cracking the bootloader, is destined to die with 2.1. Also HTC sense much better and more functional than the dreary UXP.
I don't think you'll find any review on any of the tech blogs that actually put the x10 ahead of the desire. The desire wins there unanimously.
Having said all that, I think like others who have said, you should wait until q1 next year when newer phones get released and then make your choice. Unless you want to at least get something reasonable back for your x10 before it becomes valueless.
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The Desire loses because it's an old phone. The X10 loses as well.
Why would anyone buy an old phone when the newer version is already on the market?!
Not to mention, the X10's screen absolutely blows the Desire's AMOLED out of the water. There's a reason they changed it to SLCD.
Ive got both these phones at the moment and i have to say, as much as i love the x10 there isnt a hope in hell of me ever using it again. Sense is a better ui, im finding the battery life to be better, has froyo and custom roms, it might just be me but the screen seems more vibrant, i can actually hear the other person, my signal at home now stays on 3g permenantly where it used to drop to 2.5g the majority of the time, the software is a lot smoother and more responsive, the custom htc software like the music app is much better than sonys attempts and it has multitouch. The only thing i miss is the camera and app from the x10 but seeing as i take about 10 photos a year on my phone i think i can live with that.
All of this is just my opinion of course and if you disagree then thats your right but my x10 is being sold pretty soon and ill never be buying se again. The only reason i didnt get a desire hd or z is because for the cost it doesnt seem worth it really, i could get 2 desires for the same price as 1 hd or z.
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Hi developers
Just wondering which developers are currently working on hacking the bootloader to get android 2.1/2.2 on the X10? Also, wondering how the progress is going? I started this thread to keep ppl updated and aware of progress being made, not as a nag.
Any info would be much appreciated for all interested.
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You should check if there's already a thread before posting.
Already one stuck at the top. Look here
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You should check if there's already a thread before posting.
Already one stuck at the top. Look here
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that my friend is for devs only.
i think that the man wanted to open a thread for the other people who do not know what all that CODE means, just like me and many other around here.
So it would be great if someone could tell the rest of US about the progress made in cracking the bootloader, if they have time of course.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726891
That thread's not good enough? An update has been posted there by one of the devs working to crack the bootloader.
yes that is a good thread,i am reading it every day to see the news .
but for a few days now there is none
So should we be worried?
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yes that is a good thread,i am reading it every day to see the news .
but for a few days now there is none
So should we be worried?
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As long as it isn't cracked we should be worried but remember how it was with the rooting...
yep..
patience....and more patience
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Hi developers
Just wondering which developers are currently working on hacking the bootloader to get android 2.1/2.2 on the X10? Also, wondering how the progress is going? I started this thread to keep ppl updated and aware of progress being made, not as a nag.
Any info would be much appreciated for all interested.
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I'm not one of the developers but I know what they are doing code wise. The process is basically 'tinker with things until finding the one that allows it to work'. There is no 10%, 15%, 20% levels to report to us folks here. It goes from 0% to 95% (works but not perfected for us non-coders) to 100% when they release a walkthrough or guide for us.
So until they hit the part where it works for them, there is nothing to report. All they can say is that they've tried a lot of things(which we wouldn't understand anyhow) and they haven't found one to work yet, so just wait patiently until they come out and say it's been done, just like when we were waiting on root.
so the x10 is locked just like the milestone? =/ why doesnt sony ericsson get bad press then?
Why you ask? It is simple!
The X10 user base is quite small! Most people don't care for the X10 at all! It is inferior to any other device in the its price group! You will say that it has an 8MP Camera! Yes but the quality is worse than the 5MP Camera of HTC HD2! I have them both! Most other devices in this price range are Android 2.1 (all of them soon going to 2.2) and the X10 is still 1.6 with a supposed update to 2.1 "soon"! RAM! Most other devices in this price range have atleast 512MB RAM!
Lets face it! This is a big failure for SE! Surely not the last one!
I myself will be getting something once I sell my X10
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Why you ask? It is simple!
The X10 user base is quite small! Most people don't care for the X10 at all! It is inferior to any other device in the its price group! You will say that it has an 8MP Camera! Yes but the quality is worse than the 5MP Camera of HTC HD2! I have them both! Most other devices in this price range are Android 2.1 (all of them soon going to 2.2) and the X10 is still 1.6 with a supposed update to 2.1 "soon"! RAM! Most other devices in this price range have atleast 512MB RAM!
Lets face it! This is a big failure for SE! Surely not the last one!
I myself will be getting something once I sell my X10
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that would be *your* point of view; don't take what you think for an absolute truth.
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that would be *your* point of view; don't take what you think for an absolute truth.
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Yes! Lets hear your point of view! Tell me with what is the X10 better than any of the other devices in this price range?
I got mine for 200 bucks less than desire, with larger screen I think that it was a really good deal
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I got mine for 200 bucks less than desire, with larger screen I think that it was a really good deal
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Yes you've got quite a bargain! But was this with a contract?
My Bulgarian friend you are wrong. The X10 takes better photos than the hd2 my friend has one and we did tests a while ago, you probably dont know how to use the camera. As the device itself is one of the best in its price range. Here in Canada it sells for $550+ tax. Tell me what other phone offers you a 4" inch display, 1ghz snapdragon, 8.1mp camera and soon 720p video rec and also such a beautiful design for that money. X10 is probably the best looking phone on the market. As for ram we still dont know how much it has for sure but ram is definately enough for this phone, i dont think you will notice any diference with a phone that has more ram like the nexus one for example. I think the X10 is a beast so please tell me what phone is better for example so that i can proove you wrong.
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i got mine for 279 pounds when the desire was selling for 350 pounds.
Why is everyone comparing to the desire? The desire has smaller screen worse camera and is butt ugly imo. The only thing going for it is the more ram wich doesnt matter really and 2.1 oh and the faulty dualtouch like the nexus
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Yes and if you are not a developer then you shouldn't be posting in the developers forum. Thanks, I'll ask the mods to close this.
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My Bulgarian friend you are wrong. The X10 takes better photos than the hd2 my friend has one and we did tests a while ago, you probably dont know how to use the camera. As the device itself is one of the best in its price range. Here in Canada it sells for $550+ tax. Tell me what other phone offers you a 4" inch display, 1ghz snapdragon, 8.1mp camera and soon 720p video rec and also such a beautiful design for that money. X10 is probably the best looking phone on the market. As for ram we still dont know how much it has for sure but ram is definately enough for this phone, i dont think you will notice any diference with a phone that has more ram like the nexus one for example. I think the X10 is a beast so please tell me what phone is better for example so that i can proove you wrong.
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SOON is the word here! I'll never do the mistake to buy something will "soon" be made better! Even the HD2 with a ported Android 2.1/2.2 is faster than the crappy SE software! And HD2 Makes better pictures! The test were made by a photographer and the pics were carefully studied! (only because we had non agreement on which is the better camera)! BTW The flash of the X10 is pathetic!
Nankov said:
My Bulgarian friend you are wrong. The X10 takes better photos than the hd2 my friend has one and we did tests a while ago, you probably dont know how to use the camera. As the device itself is one of the best in its price range. Here in Canada it sells for $550+ tax. Tell me what other phone offers you a 4" inch display, 1ghz snapdragon, 8.1mp camera and soon 720p video rec and also such a beautiful design for that money. X10 is probably the best looking phone on the market. As for ram we still dont know how much it has for sure but ram is definately enough for this phone, i dont think you will notice any diference with a phone that has more ram like the nexus one for example. I think the X10 is a beast so please tell me what phone is better for example so that i can proove you wrong.
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Actually I can get brand new unlocked X10's for $450 here, nothing I can find comes close to that in cost. I actually only paid $300 for mine, it was 1 week old with less than an hour of talk time. Very happy with mine the way it is right now. And it's just going to get better.
Like some others I'm getting a little tired of my x10, not going to go into details about this.
BUT, I read somewhere that people are beginning to be able to run android - 2.1, 2.2, even saw 3.0 somewhere (might have been fake) - on their HD2 devices. It also seems like this is something that is improving at a constant rate.
Now, my question is, how competent would the hd2, running android, be as a replacement to the x10 (tbh to me it seems like there won't be much change with 2.1 for x10)? How do they compare hardware wise?
Anyone got any info on this?
thanks ahead of time
For one... 3.0 doesn't exist.
As they compare hardware wise, the HD2 has a 4.3 inch screen, does it not? To me, that's a little too large for a phone. (The X10 is already huge at 4 inches).
Otherwise, if you wanna move to an HD2 running a hacked version of Android when the similarly sized, but much more powerful Desire HD is coming out, more power to you.... I'd choose to not be stuck with "older" hardware if I were going to change phones six months after buying a different one.
I have previously owned an HD2. While, yes, you can run Android, it's not ideal. First of all, it does not have the ability to load Android in ROM. It runs it in a dual-boot mode and Android runs off the SD card. The presents a few issues and compromises of it's own. This also opens the door to some serious corruption of the device reboots or the SD card is accidentally removed while it is running.
I wouldn't recommend this at all.
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For one... 3.0 doesn't exist.
As they compare hardware wise, the HD2 has a 4.3 inch screen, does it not? To me, that's a little too large for a phone. (The X10 is already huge at 4 inches).
Otherwise, if you wanna move to an HD2 running a hacked version of Android when the similarly sized, but much more powerful Desire HD is coming out, more power to you.... I'd choose to not be stuck with "older" hardware if I were going to change phones six months after buying a different one.
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I'm aware that the htc desire hd would probably be the best choice. But the thing is, I purschased the x10 while it was brand new for around 600£, so I'm not willing to pay for a new pricey high-end phone just yet. However, I thought that I would be able to find someone willing to swap my x10 for a hd2, one for one (I wouldn't lose more money, and I would still get a new experience with a new phone running 2.2).
And regarding the size I actually think the bigger the better (TWSS..).
Any ideas on how the two phones compare in raw hardware though?
why don't you just read the specs on gsmarena or something...
http://htcdesire-hd.blogspot.com/2010/09/desire-hd-free-map-app.html
look there, a hd2 is running the htc desire hd rom. It seems relatively stable!
HD2 is a good phone with no design. HTC is not a phone designer to me. I had it when it was running WM and then ported 2.1 and 2.2 and then I moved to X10. They are sort of stable but not flawless. Hd2 is sort of big and out of proportion. Hardware specs are good but if you are willing to spend the money and move to HTC(if design doesn't bother you) I recommend to wait for the HTC HD.
You have put-up with SE for a while and if you wait for a month or so you will have 2.1.
If you are a geek and like to flash new stuff twice a day and play with them with less battery, go for it or wait for something that at least is running android originally.
I really like the HD2 running winmo alone....would I trade my X10 for it? That would depend on how much better 2.1 is gonna be.....pretty much I'm down to the fact that 2.1 will make or break the X10 for a lot of people. If 2.1 isn't that much better even after this delay ill trade it in a heartbeat for an HD2..however if 2.1 proves to be worth the wait...HD2 can kiss my ass. As for the desire hd I think id give up my X10 and an HD2 for it...that thing is gonna be a beast!
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I really like the HD2 running winmo alone....would I trade my X10 for it? That would depend on how much better 2.1 is gonna be.....pretty much I'm down to the fact that 2.1 will make or break the X10 for a lot of people. If 2.1 isn't that much better even after this delay ill trade it in a heartbeat for an HD2..however if 2.1 proves to be worth the wait...HD2 can kiss my ass. As for the desire hd I think id give up my X10 and an HD2 for it...that thing is gonna be a beast!
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i was thinking the same thing and wm7 is coming out but i read somewhere there will not be a update for wm6.5 users to wm7 and when i was buying my x10 i really really was in two minds but i prefered x10 because of the upcoming update and the 16m colors and the Mt witch was going to be put in ...
Really wanna change ??
Forget HD2
Get a full Android phone, grown up from the ground as an Android phone
Ah, and search for one with Froyo out of the box
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Lakata said:
i was thinking the same thing and wm7 is coming out but i read somewhere there will not be a update for wm6.5 users to wm7 and when i was buying my x10 i really really was in two minds but i prefered x10 because of the upcoming update and the 16m colors and the Mt witch was going to be put in ...
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The only people who said MT and 16m colors were going to be added to the phone were the people on this board.
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The only people who said MT and 16m colors were going to be added to the phone were the people on this board.
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+1 SE never made such statements.
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Definitely not worth even if HD2 is loaded with Android as the hardware is not as good as X10 like the battery which is still on 1230mah lithium ion battery and HD2 is only using 5MP camera while HD2 is on 8.1MP camera.
Even though Desire HD is out, it is still using the same battery as HD2 so the battery life will only have slight improvement though it is using an improved processor chip which consume less battery power.
In terms of hardware specs or technology, HTC is no way better than SE.
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The only people who said MT and 16m colors were going to be added to the phone were the people on this board.
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m8 i red it all over the network ... not only here and there was rummors and stuff and i was hoping to be true with the update ..but they r not so .... i`m very dissapointed to see the SE is **** and i only hope the devs here to be able to crack the bootloader and when 2.1 finaly came out there will be confirmation of is x10 support mt or not but i`m moving on with my life
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In terms of hardware specs or technology, HTC is no way better than SE.
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But in terms of software and support they are much much better and ahead and i think the combination of good hardware and very good support and software is much better successful than good hardware and poor support and software update ... and X10 is not so good made and stuff... my 1st was crap and restarted itself all the time and from the store they had to change it with my 2nd one ... i hope it will be better this time ...and anyway its a hardware ... anything can go wrong aswell the x10, htc, samsung and every device in the market nothing is forever .... excluding my e51 ))))))
Why wouldn't you just trade it for a proper Android phone like the HTC Desire? Sell your X10, then buy a used Desire. Both phones should be worth about the same amount of money.
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Why wouldn't you just trade it for a proper Android phone like the HTC Desire? Sell your X10, then buy a used Desire. Both phones should be worth about the same amount of money.
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Get a milestone 2 that's going to be a better phone. I reckon anyway but always wait for at least a month after a new phone comes out. So you can see what is the best for your needs, I've learnt my lesson from x10.
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But in terms of software and support they are much much better and ahead and i think the combination of good hardware and very good support and software is much better successful than good hardware and poor support and software update ... and X10 is not so good made and stuff... my 1st was crap and restarted itself all the time and from the store they had to change it with my 2nd one ... i hope it will be better this time ...and anyway its a hardware ... anything can go wrong aswell the x10, htc, samsung and every device in the market nothing is forever .... excluding my e51 ))))))
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You are right in some ways but you must remember that HTC provide firmware upgrade till a limit and basically those upgrades are to resolve those bugs which they have left out and not add in extra features.
I have used before HTC phones ranging from Diamond, Touch Pro, Diamond 2, Touch Pro 2 and finally HD2, it is a pain for every firmware upgrade as all my data will be gone and I have to backup before performing firmware upgrade. They should gather all the bugs or problems at one go and released one firmware instead of so many.
No matter how many firmware upgrades you have, the hardware limitation is there and this is a fact that you cannot do anything unless you change phone.
At least, I have a higher spec hardware and with software upgrade which is more flexible as you can add in extra features in the later part to enhance user's experience.
Basically, those are the different type of marketing strategy used by the two companies, end users have the choice to choose what phone to change or use and you have to try different brands of phones before you know each phone manufacturer's bad and good points.
Just sharing my experience as I have tried different phones before knowing which phone manufacturer suits me more and having better technology in their hardware.
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For the moment because i cant afford other phone i`m sticking with my X10 but in the future maybe next year or so i`ll defenetly no gonna buy a Se product and i`ll go with HTC ...this is what i think for the moment But anyway lets get back to the topic i think android is better for now than wm6.5 but not x10 android ... )
I just bought an HD2 because I found it dirt cheap (Telstra edition, works in Canada), but I'll be keeping my X10 until I figure out which one suits my needs better... (And that 2.1 will be out) I'll then sell the phone that has the least potential. The NAND edition of Android is supposed to be released soon though and dual boot is a really nice option... So we'll see which one comes out on top!
I got it for $400 after tax.
I didn't have intention to buy until I heard 2.3 is coming in 2-3 months, so I decide to jump in and get the phone.
I am just wondering is it too late to get it while it has 465MB for storage and 256MB RAM (but I don't see much problem even I open few applications at a time).
Bottom line is: it's a decent phone if it's not better than G2x.
If all you're going to do is use the media player, surf the web, and play some simple games, it'll be just fine. I'm hopeful that 2.3 will make it smoother, but that remains to be seen.
But if I had to get a phone today that worked on t-zones, I'd get the Incredible S, which I got for my gf. And man, that phone is snappy as hell with a Very good screen even though I'm not a huge fan of Sense. Not to say that I'm not happy with my x10, I love the fact that it has actual buttons and wouldn't consider trading it for anything at the moment.
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I got it for $400 after tax.
I didn't have intention to buy until I heard 2.3 is coming in 2-3 months, so I decide to jump in and get the phone.
I am just wondering is it too late to get it while it has 465MB for storage and 256MB RAM (but I don't see much problem even I open few applications at a time).
Bottom line is: it's a decent phone if it's not better than G2x.
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I've had the phone since launch
And thanks XDA devs my phone is now better than most other stock new android phones
If you can get it relatively cheapish I would recommend it
The only thing I think that spoils it is the dual touch isn't too great for multitouch gaming,
Other than that once the 2.3.3 update is out it will last me till April 2012 when 2.4 is out and dual core is at its best
Hope this has helped
EDIT: X10 has 384mb ram
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Dude, i love my X10 but for that price i would have just saved another 150 and got a sgs2 or arc. $400 is kinda expensive today for a X10. Just my opinion tho. If your happy, thats all that really matters.
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$400 is a bit high for a x10. But since you got it already, enjoy it
I wanted to get Incredible S, but difficulty to root is a concern.
X10 is pretty easy to root with SOC, but I have no plan to load custom ROM because I have to find more "workable" 2.2 ROM, but again, as 2.3 is on the way, it should be worth to wait.
Tip: nokia (N8) stereo headset works with mic, and I got a special plug adapter so I can use iphone headset with it.
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I wanted to get Incredible S, but difficulty to root is a concern.
X10 is pretty easy to root with SOC, but I have no plan to load custom ROM because I have to find more "workable" 2.2 ROM, but again, as 2.3 is on the way, it should be worth to wait.
Tip: nokia (N8) stereo headset works with mic, and I got a special plug adapter so I can use iphone headset with it.
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Really? If you're interested in rooting the x10 just to get a better ROM, you should've just gotten the Incredible S. Especially since the Incredible S is getting 2.3 tomorrow and it's a generation ahead of the x10. Hell, if you wanted 2.3, you could've gotten the HD2 for $80 and throw it on there.
Not to say you made a bad decision or anything. The x10 can be a good phone instead of just ok as it is right now.
400? Jesus you could get a phone ten times better for that :S
I like it, but mine was only 200, and not on a contract
Wow 400.. Im considering selling my x10 for 150 lol (locked to Rogers though)
once the 2.3 update hits the X10, it will be a much more respectable phone, but $400 is a bit much, I mean, I have AT&T and got mine from Bestbuy for free, so go figure.
I think you must go for the ARC, the reason is the Multi Touch and more Free Ram, and about the same price, and you will get a lot of future updates, a pretty phone. I don't know, is what i think.(Not in my country yet, because that i have a x10 but uber modded of course)
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I think you must go for the ARC, the reason is the Multi Touch and more Free Ram, and about the same price, and you will get a lot of future updates, a pretty phone. I don't know, is what i think.(Not in my country yet, because that i have a x10 but uber modded of course)
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ARC doesn't work with T-Mobile/Wind AT ALL.
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ARC doesn't work with T-Mobile/Wind AT ALL.
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arc is crap anyway... sgs2 all the way
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arc is crap anyway... sgs2 all the way
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Sgs2 is crap horrible battery life.
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Sgs2 is crap horrible battery life.
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lol same battery life as arc and ten times as powerful...
top rated android phone to date.
you don't know much about technology or components do you?
After 20 hours we managed to drag the Galaxy S II down to 15 percent of its original charge
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he 1500mAh battery inside the Arc doesn't quite match the Play's endurance, but will still give you a solid day's worth of regular use (and not much more).
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from reviews....
from many they get the same battery life approximately.
Yet one is light years ahead in specs/components lol
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arc is crap anyway... sgs2 all the way
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Arc is crap? I mean sure, sgs2 is a better buy but cmon... if you've ever used Samsung/TouchWiz you'll know their idea of a UI is either:
1.Ripoff iOS UI in many different ways and get sued for it
2.Bright colourful icons with a font that appeals to a 5 year old
Hardware wise (except for the camera), clearly, it blows everything else out of the water. Software, not so much. Same goes for design
Also I've read a lot of reviews that say the SGS2 has a horrible battery life.. but then again, I've read a lot saying the Arc's is crap too
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Arc is crap? I mean sure, sgs2 is a better buy but cmon... if you've ever used Samsung/TouchWiz you'll know their idea of a UI is either:
1.Ripoff iOS UI in many different ways and get sued for it
2.Bright colourful icons with a font that appeals to a 5 year old
Hardware wise (except for the camera), clearly, it blows everything else out of the water. Software, not so much. Same goes for design
Also I've read a lot of reviews that say the SGS2 has a horrible battery life.. but then again, I've read a lot saying the Arc's is crap too
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easily changed with a diff launcher, and 4.0 blows 3.0 out of the water.
I think it is better than the arc in every way, reviews tend to agree.
The arc is another se fail imo... too little too late
The ARC is sexy though
I don't think the ARC is a fail, though there are better phones you can buy with just a bit more money.
Who's your operating service? Get a 4g 2011 phone with that $$
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In a few months it's gonna be time for me to upgrade my phone. I was so sick of the xperia x10 w/ all of sony's and AT&T's holdups. Is anyone else thinking of getting the ARC?
I like some of sony's UI features, like the camera. Google's stock camera is disgusting. But I havent used it because I have to run a custom 2.2 rom that it doesnt work with.
I say go for a HTC
Like sensation
It is a beast ...
Or desire s
The nice all in all phone
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I say go for a HTC
Like sensation
It is a beast ...
Or desire s
The nice all in all phone
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But Sensation battery life sucks afaik. I'd go for the SGS II as most of the people do at the moment. Only thing is, compared with the Arc, all the other phones (and especially the SGS II and HTC phones) look boring and generic
With GB and custom kernels, my X10 will hopefully stay with me until the next generation of phones is revealed Maybe I'd even go for a MeeGo device, if Android apps are finally supported. Its perfomance and multitasking are really impressive and it'd be a nice change to see something different from Android.
I'm gonna stick with x10 until a beautiful next generation phone comes out. Or I may buy xperia ray, looks great and smaller than arc with pretty much same specs and front camera for video/skype calling.
Sg2 is great, after I tried in shop, but man its ugly.
I may sound a bit old fashioned but I'm getting annoyed with these massive brick phones, smaller for me please
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In a few months it's gonna be time for me to upgrade my phone. I was so sick of the xperia x10 w/ all of sony's and AT&T's holdups. Is anyone else thinking of getting the ARC?
I like some of sony's UI features, like the camera. Google's stock camera is disgusting. But I havent used it because I have to run a custom 2.2 rom that it doesnt work with.
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I have a x10 and I ugraded to the atrix dual core 4G. Which is awesome and really fast. The arc is to outdated in hardware specs. But I know the arc has a good camera and has gingerbread.
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For me the ARC is a definite no go. If your upgrading on a 2 year contract, then I would say loud and clear "stay as far away from the ARC as you can". In my opinion the arc has the same shelf life as the x10. However, if you have been happy in the main with the x10, then you can go for the beautiful design of the arc over the competency and performance of the other phones (SGS2, Optimus 3d and Sensation).
Personally, I now have a very different view of smartphones to that which I had last year. Then I had the view that they were just cleverer phones but now I know that they are more like mini computers. I wouldn't buy a single core computer for the same price as a dual cored machine because it looked prettier. The same,for me anyways, now applies to smartphones.
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For me the ARC is a definite no go. If your upgrading on a 2 year contract, then I would say loud and clear "stay as far away from the ARC as you can". In my opinion the arc has the same shelf life as the x10. However, if you have been happy in the main with the x10, then you can go for the beautiful design of the arc over the competency and performance of the other phones (SGS2, Optimus 3d and Sensation).
Personally, I now have a very different view of smartphones to that which I had last year. Then I had the view that they were just cleverer phones but now I know that they are more like mini computers. I wouldn't buy a single core computer for the same price as a dual cored machine because it looked prettier. The same,for me anyways, now applies to smartphones.
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exactly...
buying an arc now or soon at the price it is would be cheating yourself in some way imo.
Sure it looks nice, but imagine in 6 months time how dated it will be.
Do yourself a favour and either wait till SE releases something current, or buy something current
no way to get one more SE phone. done with them, i'm heading for SGS2 or LG Optimus 3D in the 2nd half of the year.
SE burned their bridges with me on the x10.
I was always a big SE fan and had nothing but good things to say about them.
But the x10 ruined it for me, so i will have to swap brands for a company that cares about it customers.
If SE had made effort with the X10, i would have bought a newer SE phone but they dropped us in the water.
there is no change in hell i give another 400 Euros for 16m colors,bravia engine and unlocked bootloader, even if i was rich.
If i wanted to buy a new phone i d buy samsung galaxy s2.
NO, Arc is ugly, But might go xperia Neo or Active(underwater video shotting)
Nah it's like buying a Nexus One now, you might as well wait and get something that has a newer lifespan.
There is Q&A section for posting this.
Finally time to buy a new phone. My Xperia X10 has failed so bad. I'll never go with SE again. Which is sad.
Hi
I have the origonal wildfre and im looking at geting a new phone i have been looking at the desire X but i have read a few bad things about it things like it overheats the camera is rubish and there will be no updates for it i was wondering as you guys use them what do you recomend i dont have much money so i cant afford the £500 for the htc one x and i dont like the dinner plate sized phones but the desire X is £180 so i can fit it in my budget
Thanks for any advice or help you guys can offer
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Hi
I have the origonal wildfre and im looking at geting a new phone i have been looking at the desire X but i have read a few bad things about it things like it overheats the camera is rubish and there will be no updates for it i was wondering as you guys use them what do you recomend i dont have much money so i cant afford the £500 for the htc one x and i dont like the dinner plate sized phones but the desire X is £180 so i can fit it in my budget
Thanks for any advice or help you guys can offer
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It gets hot, that's true (and kinda strange.... )
The camera isn't that bad (and absolutely enough for the use you're gonna do of it, e.g. posting photos on FB)
If you are looking for similar sized phones you can consider the GSIII Mini, considering the fact that it hasn't got Sense customization, and for a HTC user it can be kinda disappointing (I used to have a Wildfire S, when I bought a Xperia go I was so disappointed of sony customized UI that I replaced it with the Desire X)
Just a thing... please improve your english..
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It gets hot, that's true (and kinda strange.... )
The camera isn't that bad (and absolutely enough for the use you're gonna do of it, e.g. posting photos on FB)
If you are looking for similar sized phones you can consider the GSIII Mini, considering the fact that it hasn't got Sense customization, and for a HTC user it can be kinda disappointing (I used to have a Wildfire S, when I bought a Xperia go I was so disappointed of sony customized UI that I replaced it with the Desire X)
Just a thing... please improve your english..
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Sorry about the english but i am dyslecic. i like my wildfire but i was disapointed with the lack of updates and a friend put it on cryogen and its never worked rite scinse so im going to update but i never liked the sony phones my friend has just got the desire c and its a nice phone but i dont want to just go out and buy the desire x and end up with a phone that im not 100% happy with like the wildfire
Thanks for your help
factorydefault000 said:
Hi
I have the origonal wildfre and im looking at geting a new phone i have been looking at the desire X but i have read a few bad things about it things like it overheats the camera is rubish and there will be no updates for it i was wondering as you guys use them what do you recomend i dont have much money so i cant afford the £500 for the htc one x and i dont like the dinner plate sized phones but the desire X is £180 so i can fit it in my budget
Thanks for any advice or help you guys can offer
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I'd recommend it if you can get it for £180.
However if you're willing to go for a few quid extra I'd go for the GSIII Mini or a little bit more than that you could get a Nexus 4...
As Matyt said, the device gets hot and it gets pretty annoying and unpleasant.
We have received updates for this device, and most users now have a Jelly Bean update.
Moreover our device gets the Linux 3.4 kernel with Jelly Bean meaning we'll be able to run the next few releases of Android on our phone whether it's officially or unofficially.
We have lots of progress on the AOSP ROMs front as well, with CM9 almost fully working and CM10.1 in the works.
In terms of developer support, you can't go wrong with the DX
Thanks for your advice im geting more tempted to get the desire x now do you think there is a way to fix the overheating and do yuou think this could shorten its life?
once i again....
if you dont have too much money and want a nice - cool , fast phone...not in a shoe size...you better buy it!!!!
it gets hot but not in critical points....
for the money you will pay you will get a very good phone
and lately a lot of developers are working on our phone...so we will get jb roms aosp and others..which will make our phone twice faster
from what you ask...this phone suits you!! A LOTTT
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and the best is that we have a nice community ))
thanks for all your help nice to see a bunch of friendy guys who know what there talking about who can give real advice
mine doesnt over heat until i play an intense 3d game. and that happens to all the midrange phones i know of. Its only major compromise is on:
- no front camera
- no digital compass
- no 720p video recording (although playback is possible)
But dont forget the positive things:
- fast processor
- Good camera lens and low light snapshots
- HTC Sense (although lite version)
- Ram is higher
- Screen colour reproduciton is v good. (although not very bright)
- HTC Sense
- JellyBean (Upcoming in some regions - Damn you HTC)
- Light and beautiful design.
I agree with neXus PRIME. I havent had the issue of the phone overheating.
The phone is absolutely amazing in my honest opinion. Except for the front camera and htc full sense. Although i would advice you to check this link regarding the white noise (hiss sound) on some of our Desire X.
But that has never annoyed me at all as i barely noticed it. And after some search on Google, the white noise seems to be a problem or some kind of sacrifice introduced on almost all mobile devices to compensate and even out other weird sounds. I think there is a video regarding this which is on one of the pages on that link thread.
There is nothing else to disregard Desire X as an awesome and handy and comfortable device for those of us keen on getting a quality phone within a budget.
And once again if you want to compensate for all the con points neXus PRIME has first mentioned in the above thread, then by all means buy a Samsung Galaxy S3 mini.
I have come from a Wildfire to the Desire x.
The perfect move.
The DX camera is 10x netter than the Wildfire
I am glad i Made the move.
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factorydefault000 said:
Sorry about the English but i am dyslexic. i like my wildfire but i was disappointed with the lack of updates and a friend put it on cyanogen and its never worked right since so I'm going to update but i never liked the Sony phones my friend has just got the desire c and its a nice phone but i don't want to just go out and buy the desire x and end up with a phone that I'm not 100% happy with like the wildfire
Thanks for your help
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It important that you are 100% happy with your purchase...my advice go with your heart.
the Desire X is a nice phone has everything that you need and will receive updates for at least 4.X(not sure about official but surely unofficially).
about the heating that can usually happen due to prolonged usage at high frequency of the processor(our default governor is performance hence the reason slow down scaling and rapid fire upscaling).
this can be fixed by moving to interactive governor(better ratio of scaling) or/and changing the scaling governor to conservative.
though this problem might persist if you play games/use apps that have a high processor demand(usually very graphic intensive).
there so my suggestion is to look for a device that has the following points.
1.confirmed jb update(this gives it a better chance of getting 4.x future updates).
2.Strong developer comunity.
3.possible working method for rooting.
4.custom recoveries.
5.good specs vs price ratio.
for me the Desire X ticks all these boxes.
but in the end the choice is yours.
Good Luck,
Dark Passenger
The phone is far better with the JB update, from my own anecdotal experience. I was unhappy with it on ICS. I'm still not impressed with Sense Lite that we were burdend with, and had I known about it at the time I would have opted for another device.
There are many positives about the phone, it is very cheap and it works OK for the price. If I had more money I would go for a Nexus 4 though.
The other reviews above are good, but I'd add in the actual handset is not very comfortable in your hands, especially for extended periods, and the screen feels less responsive than the one on the old Desire (Bravo). It is very plasticy and the back cover feels very cheapo and fragile.
It's a grand Android phone, it costs next to nothing (comparatively) but the performance is fairly low end and there's an air of cheapness to the whole thing. My Nexus 4, GS3 and other devices feel far superior (though to be fair they are). My One X JB update slowed down some fairly basic functionality for me and I really didn't like it after it updated. I've a concern that HTC are rushing software or it is too fragmented for them to release solid ROMs for their devices.
I use the DX as my day to day out and about phone and it works fine for the most part. There's nothign major wrong with it, just a lot of little niggles here and there. Some of which were fixed with JB update!
If you want a very cheap phone for basic surfing, facebook etc and won't be installing any particularly big games you'll be fine with this device.
I went to get the desire X on sataday and was told by the shop that they do not keep them in stock as they are such a bad phone that they nobody wanted them but from what you guys said it sounds like hes talking out of his ass
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I went to get the desire X on sataday and was told by the shop that they do not keep them in stock as they are such a bad phone that they nobody wanted them but from what you guys said it sounds like hes talking out of his ass
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NEVER trust retailers...
i never do i sent a nice email to there head office saying how there staff ignored evreyone in the shop untill they all waked out then when i came back an hr later the palce was empty and then was told its a rubish phone but you guys on here seem to be loving the thing so im just looking for somewhere elce to buy it from but there isnt any other place i can find that sells it so i may have to bite the bullet and buy it from them
Personally, i hate the phone. I regret buying it everyday. Hell, even my old Galaxy S was a lot better then this piece of crap. Don't recommend buying it.
I find it Amazing that some people take so much effort and time to come onto a forum and talk rubbish.
You can go onto virtually any forum, IPHONE, Galaxy 3 and 4 forums, you will always get people there with problems, mostly user related.
You also get the chops who also go onto the various forums and say this phone is the biggest rubbish just for the kick of it.
To the one who bought this product, surely you dont compare it to Top of the range Galaxy, Sony or Iphone.
Compare apples with apples.
The Desire X fits into its own market, It delivers just what is expected of it . Accept that or buy another phone that will suit your needs.
ORA
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ORA 1 said:
I find it Amazing that some people take so much effort and time to come onto a forum and talk rubbish.
You can go onto virtually any forum, IPHONE, Galaxy 3 and 4 forums, you will always get people there with problems, mostly user related.
You also get the chops who also go onto the various forums and say this phone is the biggest rubbish just for the kick of it.
To the one who bought this product, surely you dont compare it to Top of the range Galaxy, Sony or Iphone.
Compare apples with apples.
The Desire X fits into its own market, It delivers just what is expected of it . Accept that or buy another phone that will suit your needs.
ORA
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'Delivers what is expected of it' Yeah because when we spend $300 on a phone we all expect a software update that will break one of the phone's main selling points.
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This is not, hate desire x forum. I like dislike a lot of things. But this phone ISN'T crap. I've tested many equally costing devices from others and they can be called crap. Let us all stay on topic. Our frustration with jelly bean update n bugs shouldn't make us so narrow minded so as to neglect all the good things about it.
Peace.
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neXus PRIME said:
This is not, hate desire x forum. I like dislike a lot of things. But this phone ISN'T crap. I've tested many equally costing devices from others and they can be called crap. Let us all stay on topic. Our frustration with jelly bean update n bugs shouldn't make us so narrow minded so as to neglect all the good things about it.
Peace.
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Let's be honest, its a crap phone.
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