HD2 as car navigation -good idea or better to buy REAL CAR NAVIGATION ? - HD2 Windows Mobile 6.5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I saw similar posts but didn't saw answer.
Is HD2 better than standard REAL CAR NAVIGATION ??
I need to go to UK next week and will need a good navigation.
I will start from Poland so 2000km will be done with this nav.
What is better HD2 with NAV or REAL NAVIGATION (Mio, garmin etc.) ?
***sorry for my language - still learning ***

in my country, Real Navigation is better, our Google Maps is not updated

TomTom on my HD2 works like a charm. I drive every year from The Netherlands to France, Spain, Italy and back during the hollidays. Just make sure you have updated maps.

I've used Garmin XT on my previous PPC as well as on my HD2. This works as well as any REAL CAR NAVIGATION system. However, please make sure you have updated maps..

Where can one get satnav software for the HD2? Google maps is ok but when I'm driving I prefer voice guidance from something like TomTom

Load an Android build and Google maps with Google Navigation, (Voice prompts), is brilliant here in the USA.
Bing works very nicely too in Navigation mode but I have experienced it locking up on me more than once so the battery had to be pulled. I've heard that if I had been more patient it would come back. That's OK when you are on a long haul trip but in a city you could miss your turn easily.

So what you think ?
I'm not suggesting any maps becouse AutoMapa (similar to TomTom) works perfect for me:
- vice commands
- quick fix
- and many more
Is HD2 is better than a cheap NAV (40 $ - 100 $)
I am worry about technical issues.
You know ... 30 hours ON , memory lacks , battery heating , and other.
Inside Poland works great but still thinking about Garmin Nüvi 1200T (95$ - with TMC).
Please help :
HD2 with Automapa or Garmin Nüvi 1200T (with TMC) ???
Consider this that i'm not happy to spend additional 100$ , but still
looking for safety because i'm going with family so mayby i will need to
spend this 100$.

azlan96 said:
in my country, Real Navigation is better, our Google Maps is not updated
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not true. i have been using Igo8, mapking and garmin Que on HD & HD2 to Malaysia from Singapore. i just got back from Genting & Sunway lagoon 2 days ago using HD2, even had Yong Tau Fu at Ampang. Comparing to my brother who had a dedicated Garmin GPS on board and made a few wrong turns, i feel that HD2 GPS is as good as dedicated GPS device.

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I mean, Garmin Mobile XT on HD2 is good no doubt, but then, MalFreeMaps has 3D buildings, but I cant benefit it cause GMXT doesnt support it..
MalSingMaps has Junction View/Lane Assists, and GMXT cant support..

klopikxda said:
You know ... 30 hours ON , memory lacks , battery heating , and other.
Inside Poland works great but still thinking about Garmin Nüvi 1200T (95$ - with TMC).
HD2 with Automapa or Garmin Nüvi 1200T (with TMC) ???
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1. na dlugiej trasie startuj zawsze z naładowanym HD2
(on the long route, always start with fullly loaded HD2)
2. Używaj ładowarki z wyjściem 1A (075A to minimum)
(use the car charger with power output of 1A, 0,75a as the minimum
3. Przyciemnij ekran, wyłacz autoregulację jasności
(dim the screen, block auto dimming)
po spełnieniu 1, 2, 3, HD2 grzeje się o wiele mniej, jesli w ogóle
(when 1,2 and 3 are met, HD2 heats significantly slower, if at all)
na trasę polecam iGo8.3 lub TomToma (autoMapa zwłaszcza wersje 6.x mają śmieszne algorytmy wyznaczania tras)
(for this route I'd suggest to use iGo8.3 or Tomtom (as AM routes thruogh some funny points, especially since 6.x version)
robiłem tą trasę wielokrotnie bez problemów... aby się nie krzaczyło, wyznacz osobno trasę do promu/eurotunelu, i potem osobno juz w Anglii.
(for safety, make two separate routes, one to ferry/Eurotunel, and the second one in UK)

Thanks for reply.
This info was really helpfull.
*** Dzięki za informacje *** Thanks for your help
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No. Even though Google maps itself is better in my area of the U.S., the cell signal will drop just when you need it the most. I drive professionally, and use a 5" TomTom. I use the HD2 as a backup.
One thing it DOES do better, is pinch zoom and that is way nice to see the route ahead. I can move the map around and zoom in and out easy. The TomTom, no way, it is very hard to zoom and drag the map. Too slow and clumsy.
I use both, but if I had to pick one it would be the TomTom.
hope this helps

Oh I wish Garmin had a new version just for the HD2

To my opinion HD2 is a better choice. I have 3 navigation systems on my Leo - Garmin XT with Geotrade map, iGO with Teleatlas map and Navigon with Navteq Q4 map. They are all excellent apps with great road coverage of the maps which are OFFLINE maps. The advantage is that you can choose wich one to get and there is no need for Internet connection which is the case with Google maps. The screen is big enough. The only draw back is the battery drain but you can always buy a car charger.

I consider my hd2 is a better choice, I run IGO8 and its more accurate, faster,and the overall exerience is sweeter than my off the shelf Navman. The navman is now relegated to the old tech box

Travel
OK,
For me the HD2 is definately the better choice.
However, stay away from google maps, in the city of Lodz,
which I recently visited, it did not show a street, despite
it being there for a few years already.
You can use automapa, which works very well on HD2,
together with the "NaviComputer" software that can be
found on this forum.
I used automapa when driving Germany-Poland and back.
It worked very well.
I used NaviComputer to go through a city (on foot), because it's more
like a map, only with the benefit that you know EXACTLY where
you are at any point. It will know house-numbers quite often better
compared to traditional Navigation.
Powodzenia,
Pozdrawiam,
Tom
P.S.: I have a USB radio, so not only does it navigate, but the radio charges it AND it plays my favorite music. SWEET.
If you don't have that kind of radio, you can just buy the charger. Every MediaMarkt or RTVAGD should have it.

I would have but I couldn't get a good enough signal from the GPS which is a real shame it would be real patchy and didn't update within enough time meaning I would miss my turn then it will say turn when I was about 100 Yards from the corner.
But that could just be down to ROM or Radio but oh well. Try it a few times but you can save some money and use it

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TomTom 6 performance on X7501

Hello,
I found the Advantage to be very slow with TomTom. I used the same application on my old HP 2795 (QVGA display) and the navigation was nice and smooth unlike the fragmented, slow-motion like display on the Advantage.
I have the original TomTom 6.010 with the latest North America 6.75 (build 1409) maps (purchased). I don’t have any problems getting the GPS signal but when on a route the screen only refreshes about once every second. For example, after making a 90 degree turn it takes about 50 to 100 meters to actually show the current direction and the turn itself (which is supposed to be a continuous, smooth transitioning movement) is shown as 3 intermediate angle segments in a rough, broken movement.
I saw another thread, addressing a similar issue where an upgrade to the next 6.030 application version was suggested. I tried both 6.030 and 6.032 (these aren’t the original ones) and despite a faster acquiring time and a lot better lock when configured to use the internal GPS rather than another NMEA (on the 6.010) the newer the application version the slower overall performance – strange isn’t it?
On the other hand: any suggestions on the CorePlayer 1.1.1 settings? I plaid with pretty much all of them with no much difference anyway, overall getting a medium-poor performance.
I would really appreciate a feedback on both
Thanks,
By chance are you storing your maps on the microdrive?
Many people here have experienced the map skipping you mention and all of
them were storing the maps on the MD. Moving the maps to the MiniSD card
always seems to fix the problem. Give that a try. if it still happens, then you might have another program running in the backround causing problems.
One thing that improves TT performance generally is to turn off POI's displayed on the map. I leave on the speed-camera one's and thats about it. You can still navigate to them without them being displayed, and does up the performance somewhat.
Madhadder said:
By chance are you storing your maps on the microdrive?
Many people here have experienced the map skipping you mention and all of
them were storing the maps on the MD. Moving the maps to the MiniSD card
always seems to fix the problem. Give that a try. if it still happens, then you might have another program running in the backround causing problems.
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Mine works without any problem on microdrive.
Yes, I'm storing the maps on the MD, but I plaid around with it and stored maps on both, MD and card and honestly I didn't notice any difference. Besides I'm sure there is no other program running in the background; I ran TomTom after a hard reset just to test it - nothing else installed and still works crappy.
Eaglesteve, what TomTom version (application/maps) are you using?
Are you running WM6 or WM5? Mine runs WM6 and I suspect this to be one of the issues. Funny thing is I tried the very same application and maps on an ASUS running WM2003 SE and it works just great.
As far as I know TomTom does not support WM6 and probably they have a reason not to. I've opened up a ticket with TomTom and asked them the same question...2 weeks ago and still no answer.
nacos said:
Yes, I'm storing the maps on the MD, but I plaid around with it and stored maps on both, MD and card and honestly I didn't notice any diffrence. besides I'm sure there is no other program running in the backgroung; I ran TomTom after a hard reset just to test it - nothing else installed and still works crappy.
Eaglesteve, what TomTom version (application/maps) are you using?
Are you running WM6 or WM5? Mine runs WM6 and I suspect this to be one of the issues. Funny thing is I tried the vary same application and maps on an ASUS running WM2003 SE and it works just great.
As far as I know TomTom does not support WM6 and probably they have a reason not to. I've opened up a ticket with TomTom and asked them the same question...2 weeks ago and still no answer.
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Mine is version 6, running on wm6.
nacos said:
Yes, I'm storing the maps on the MD, but I plaid around with it and stored maps on both, MD and card and honestly I didn't notice any difference. Besides I'm sure there is no other program running in the background; I ran TomTom after a hard reset just to test it - nothing else installed and still works crappy.
Eaglesteve, what TomTom version (application/maps) are you using?
Are you running WM6 or WM5? Mine runs WM6 and I suspect this to be one of the issues. Funny thing is I tried the very same application and maps on an ASUS running WM2003 SE and it works just great.
As far as I know TomTom does not support WM6 and probably they have a reason not to. I've opened up a ticket with TomTom and asked them the same question...2 weeks ago and still no answer.
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I have TT6 wunning on WM6 no problem. I always store maps on the SD. However, the size of the map makes a big difference to the performance. If I use the Western europe map, it crawls. If I just use an individual country map (eg UK or France), it is much much faster.
ir runs ALOT faster in landscape try it and see, even moving through the menu's is faster
It REALLY made a huge difference when I disabled all POI. Now it runs nice and smoothly and it recalculates the routes just as fast as TomTom Go 720 – which is almost instantaneously. No more complains there – thanks a lot.
I also believe that using a smaller map vs. the whole North America would probably help but since I leave on the border and constantly swing between Canada and USA I cannot really benefit from that – I have to use the whole map to be able to cross border without having to switch maps.
I must disagree with increased performance in landscape; I thoroughly tested both modes and I believe the software was actually made and optimized for portrait. Depending on what application version is used the modes are differently interpreted however the best results are always yielded in portrait: faster refresh, better auto zooming and no horizontal sweeping effect on video refreshes (only visible in v6.010).
Again, thanks everyone for all your valuable feedback.
On the other hand, anyone ever tried to install/convert the application from the stand alone units (like TomTom Go xxx or One xx) to PDA? I guess I’m asking weather there is any way to make it work? I tried with no success. Funny thing is the maps used by TomTom Navigator are correctly interpreted and used by, say Go720 but it doesn’t work the other way around. It would be really sweet to have the latest v7.220 on my Advantage. Thanks again
nacos said:
On the other hand, anyone ever tried to install/convert the application from the stand alone units (like TomTom Go xxx or One xx) to PDA? ... It would be really sweet to have the latest v7.220 on my Advantage. Thanks again
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No warez here please (just in case that was what you were suggesting!) - we do not want this place shut down.
nacos said:
Hello,
I found the Advantage to be very slow with TomTom. I used the same application on my old HP 2795 (QVGA display) and the navigation was nice and smooth unlike the fragmented, slow-motion like display on the Advantage.
I have the original TomTom 6.010 with the latest North America 6.75 (build 1409) maps (purchased). I don’t have any problems getting the GPS signal but when on a route the screen only refreshes about once every second. For example, after making a 90 degree turn it takes about 50 to 100 meters to actually show the current direction and the turn itself (which is supposed to be a continuous, smooth transitioning movement) is shown as 3 intermediate angle segments in a rough, broken movement.
I saw another thread, addressing a similar issue where an upgrade to the next 6.030 application version was suggested. I tried both 6.030 and 6.032 (these aren’t the original ones) and despite a faster acquiring time and a lot better lock when configured to use the internal GPS rather than another NMEA (on the 6.010) the newer the application version the slower overall performance – strange isn’t it?
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I am using HTC's WM6 & TomTom 6.010 no problem, quite often with a lot of other programs running. It is better than on my Uni. I am using Western Europe maps and have the POIs turned on (will turn them off to see if there is a change).
I am interested in how you managed to get hold of upgraded versions, where from, I can't ever find anything through the normal tomtom channels.
nacos said:
It REALLY made a huge difference when I disabled all POI. Now it runs nice and smoothly and it recalculates the routes just as fast as TomTom Go 720 – which is almost instantaneously. No more complains there – thanks a lot.
I also believe that using a smaller map vs. the whole North America would probably help but since I leave on the border and constantly swing between Canada and USA I cannot really benefit from that – I have to use the whole map to be able to cross border without having to switch maps.
I must disagree with increased performance in landscape; I thoroughly tested both modes and I believe the software was actually made and optimized for portrait. Depending on what application version is used the modes are differently interpreted however the best results are always yielded in portrait: faster refresh, better auto zooming and no horizontal sweeping effect on video refreshes (only visible in v6.010).
Again, thanks everyone for all your valuable feedback.
On the other hand, anyone ever tried to install/convert the application from the stand alone units (like TomTom Go xxx or One xx) to PDA? I guess I’m asking weather there is any way to make it work? I tried with no success. Funny thing is the maps used by TomTom Navigator are correctly interpreted and used by, say Go720 but it doesn’t work the other way around. It would be really sweet to have the latest v7.220 on my Advantage. Thanks again
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im such a dufus, I meant portrait and even had it pictured in my head and yet somehow typed landscape
tomtom
it runs quite fast on my advantage actually. no problems there perhaps there are too many background processes running on yours or a lack of running memory?
How you turn off the PQI?
Is that going through preference, and uncheck all of the PQI..?

Sprint Navigation from new Sprint Rom

Does anyone have the cab of the Sprint Nav from the new Rom?
Thanks in advance
Ok, I guess not.
Ok, so still no one has this I assume. It seems to be a bit different than the version I'm running.
Can someone point me in the right direction to where I can find how I'd be able to extract it from the stock rom?
Any help is appreciated.
Here's the latest..
indagroove said:
Here's the latest..
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Thanks a million
how does this compare with google maps or tomtom ?
SyXbiT said:
how does this compare with google maps or tomtom ?
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I don't have TomTom, so I can't compare. But compared to google maps, I think it's 10x better.
I like the voice directions, as well as 1 click traffic re-routing. This new version, also has a manage contacts feature, although I haven't tried it yet. There is however a monthly fee for the service ($9.99/mo),
steb0ne said:
I don't have TomTom, so I can't compare. But compared to google maps, I think it's 10x better.
I like the voice directions, as well as 1 click traffic re-routing. This new version, also has a manage contacts feature, although I haven't tried it yet. There is however a monthly fee for the service ($9.99/mo),
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lol...9.99? thats pointless...why would you upgrade to a custom titan rom, to get free gps capability, then put on a program that you have to pay for anyway? lol.
tomtom is MUCH better. 3d maps, voice navigation (custom i might add, for example i have yoda telling me where to go), reroutes in half a second, can get directions without having gps lock..like if you want to type in a strating and end point it can get directions without a connection, just does it internally. tomtom is way advanced.
If you have TomTom and maps and didn't pay for it, then you got it illegally, not quite fair to compare that to him talking about a legit cost for a program. Check out the costs of TomTom nav for a cell phone and maps and updates and all that...
Besides, aside from the Yoda voice, which is annoying as hell after about five minutes (I have it and Darth Vader on my TomTom One), Sprint Navigator does all the same stuff, but seems to have A LOT more POI's.
No other GPS program gives me traffic in my area, but the Sprint app. TomTom is expensive. But it also has 3D maps, etc. It actually is a very good app and works perfectly everytime and is fast. Plus the app is small and doesn't take up a lot of space. No need to download maps, etc.
I use other features of the custom ROM, FYI; it isn't about trying to get everything free. I'm not too cheap to pay for something I can't get for free.
If you know of a better option for free, then I'm all about it. I guess I could get a copy of TomTom, but with the small amount of RAM on the Mogul, and my small SD card (512MB) for maps, it's a bit of a hassle
crobs808 said:
lol...9.99? thats pointless...why would you upgrade to a custom titan rom, to get free gps capability, then put on a program that you have to pay for anyway? lol.
tomtom is MUCH better. 3d maps, voice navigation (custom i might add, for example i have yoda telling me where to go), reroutes in half a second, can get directions without having gps lock..like if you want to type in a strating and end point it can get directions without a connection, just does it internally. tomtom is way advanced.
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I use sprint's Telenav because it's included in my everything plan. For driving directions it's way better than google maps or live search.
Are there any other programs that stream the map data?
I don't have an everything plan, but this thing isn't asking me to sign up for anything. Any idea if I'll get charged?
TomTom only cost $120 one-time cost .. you just buy the software no service fee,
and you don't have to buy it from Tomtom.com .. you can buy a real copy
used copy with real activation key from tomtom for $50 off ebay .. thats
what I did .. $50 one time cost .. and get the best Phone Nav software!!
also Tomtom don't download maps on the go like the sprint, google maps,
Verizon, windows live etc.. Tomtom maps are all stored on the local mircoSD card ..
I used all them Nav software and TomTom 6 dvd so far hands down is the best!!
you can buy it for $50 or less on ebay or $120 sale price ($149 reg. price) from
bestbuy or other stores, one time cost ..or free with limewire lol...
x2 TomTom FTW!!
BTW has anyone used iGO 8?
VulnoX said:
If you have TomTom and maps and didn't pay for it, then you got it illegally, not quite fair to compare that to him talking about a legit cost for a program. Check out the costs of TomTom nav for a cell phone and maps and updates and all that...
Besides, aside from the Yoda voice, which is annoying as hell after about five minutes (I have it and Darth Vader on my TomTom One), Sprint Navigator does all the same stuff, but seems to have A LOT more POI's.
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BTW has anyone used iGO 8?
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I have and it's too ram intensive to work well on this phone. It's all but impossible to get text to speech working at all. I've also used TomTom off and on for 5-6 years on various devices. I always had a problem with TomTom's lack of street first search, but it's been a while since I last used it so that may have been fixed. My preference for PDA based nav has been iGuidance, mainly because of its text to speech and simple interface. TomTom and iGO have slick interfaces that also slow them down and especially on this ram starved phone, can lead to instability. Fancy graphics are all fine and good, but you're supposed to keep your eyes on the road. TomTom up until recently has suffered from really old incomplete maps, though that's been rectified as of late. One problem and possible added expense with stand alone nav software is that the maps and poi's age as you own it. If you want to keep up to date, you'll have to pony up for regular updates (never free) or regularly replace the program. That subscription price may not be as expensive as you thought. Another issue is that stand alone nav software takes up significant storage space and uses a lot more system resources. I used to be skeptical of the Telenav/Sprint nav, thinking it overpriced junk. Since it's been included with my plan, my opinion of it has changed dramatically. The traffic function is a killer feature and because routing is done remotely, the app uses very little ram. To date, it's never crashed or quit on its own, not something I can say about TomTom, iGO or iGuidance. Because you never purchase maps or poi's, they're not aging on your phone and are more likely to be up to date. There are downsides. If you have prolonged data signal loss (you don't need 3g!) you will loose map detail and re routing, though your current route will remain so you should get where you're going to . I've never had this happen in real world use. It also lacks street first search, requiring you to know the town you're traveling to. The voice entry which is done via a phone call is slow but accurate via the handset and bt but not so much via speakerphone. The online component of the program is a bit lacking. I can run iGO or TomTom fine on my $99 hacked Pharos AIO with a big screen and loud audio, but find myself using Telenav on my Mogul because of the traffic and superior poi data. In the near future, the choice between stand alone software and supscription based will be moot as the stand alone software is being rapidly phased out due to a shrinking market. Phone subscription based (especially when the iPhone gets true nav) and AIO's are the present and the future until they figure out how to implant the gps in out brains.
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jph8tr said:
I have and it's too ram intensive to work well on this phone. It's all but impossible to get text to speech working at all. I've also used TomTom off and on for 5-6 years on various devices. I always had a problem with TomTom's lack of street first search, but it's been a while since I last used it so that may have been fixed. My preference for PDA based nav has been iGuidance, mainly because of its text to speech and simple interface. TomTom and iGO have slick interfaces that also slow them down and especially on this ram starved phone, can lead to instability. Fancy graphics are all fine and good, but you're supposed to keep your eyes on the road. TomTom up until recently has suffered from really old incomplete maps, though that's been rectified as of late. One problem and possible added expense with stand alone nav software is that the maps and poi's age as you own it. If you want to keep up to date, you'll have to pony up for regular updates (never free) or regularly replace the program. That subscription price may not be as expensive as you thought. Another issue is that stand alone nav software takes up significant storage space and uses a lot more system resources. I used to be skeptical of the Telenav/Sprint nav, thinking it overpriced junk. Since it's been included with my plan, my opinion of it has changed dramatically. The traffic function is a killer feature and because routing is done remotely, the app uses very little ram. To date, it's never crashed or quit on its own, not something I can say about TomTom, iGO or iGuidance. Because you never purchase maps or poi's, they're not aging on your phone and are more likely to be up to date. There are downsides. If you have prolonged data signal loss (you don't need 3g!) you will loose map detail and re routing, though your current route will remain so you should get where you're going to . I've never had this happen in real world use. It also lacks street first search, requiring you to know the town you're traveling to. The voice entry which is done via a phone call is slow but accurate via the handset and bt but not so much via speakerphone. The online component of the program is a bit lacking. I can run iGO or TomTom fine on my $99 hacked Pharos AIO with a big screen and loud audio, but find myself using Telenav on my Mogul because of the traffic and superior poi data. In the near future, the choice between stand alone software and supscription based will be moot as the stand alone software is being rapidly phased out due to a shrinking market. Phone subscription based (especially when the iPhone gets true nav) and AIO's are the present and the future until they figure out how to implant the gps in out brains.
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Well thats ok info. but IMO out of date in a major way!! TomTom 6 only been out less
than 2 years, (well just about 2 years now..)
you most have used some old version of TomTom .. I have been using TomTom
for sometime now and it never crashed on me, plus it do NOT take up much memory,
its loads very fast and text to speech talk voice is very clear, the on screen street
finder is VERY sweet and fast .. all you need to know is the area and you'll find any address ..
again base on your statement you most have used a very old version of TomTom ..
cause none of that is true for TomTom 6 or 7 ..
However you are correct on the maps, I got my TomTom 6 and it came with (late 11/2007 maps),
the new 2008/09 maps you have to buy, New 2009 US/CA maps cost $69 at bestbuy .. (or FREE using LimeWire lol)
Also mircoSD card is very cheap $4 for 2GB cards and $7 for 4GB cards
so you can't even say thats an issue ..
Plus any nav. software that download maps on the go (e.g. MS live, Google maps etc..),
when driving there is a major street update delay and it gets worst if your data service speed is slow,
TomTom 6 or newer don't have any of that issue .. granted I don't look at my phone screen
"much" when I am driving .. but I do quickly look at it when I am getting closer to a turn ..
or in areas that have a few turns at the same spot .. 95% of the time I just listen to TomTom
cool voice direction via my wireless bluetooth headset .. but still always good to have realtime update on screen!!
So yeah!!
* Memory is not an issue with TomTom 6 and my vx6800 titan PDA.
* TomTom 6 never!! Crashed or close when I am using it!! Hours or driving!!
* real time update on screen
* TomTom 6 menu is very very EASY to use, to setup and find new destination!
* TomTom traffic re-route is very cool, even when you miss a tune, re-route is done,
Very fast ..
As I said TomTom hands down is the BEST!!! And so what if I have to drop $69
Ever few years for new maps.. hell I still have the option to download maps using
LimeWire for FREE
BTW to do the math .. when I used to pay for Verizon Nav service $9.99 + tax .. about $135 per-year with tax
even if I have to buy new maps each year from TomTom it would still cost me a lot less!!
and having the options to download FREE maps is also nice ...
Also I have use Nav .. not only when driving .. I have use it many times when walking looking
for an address or POI .. just hanging out with friends etc.. in the city etc..
mr-free said:
BTW to do the math .. when I used to pay for Verizon Nav service $9.99 + tax .. about $135 per-year with tax
even if I have to buy new maps each year from TomTom it would still cost me a lot less!!
and having the options to download FREE maps is also nice ...
Also I have use Nav .. not only when driving .. I have use it many times when walking looking
for an address or POI .. just hanging out with friends etc.. in the city etc..
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I'm glad you like TT so much, enjoy it. I agree that $10/mo is too much, $5-6$ is a better price point. The ONLY reason I tried Telenav is because it was included in my plan. As for the stability statement, it comes down to how you use your phone. I tend to have a media player in the background , usually mortplayer . TomTom + Mort+ incoming phone call = locked up phone (this was using a DCD 2 series ROM). Even without the crash, the media player will be forcefully quit by winmo eventually. iGO will not coexist with any other program running and may be "quit" for lack of mem anyway.
Please, don't include software theft as any part of your cost equation! For the legitimate buyer, the price difference between buying a legal copy of the software and legally keeping it up to date is not tremendously cheaper than the $10/mo subscription price. Throw in traffic and automatically kept up to date map and poi's and the choice between the two becomes even less clear. Though I have tied turn by turn software for pedestrian uses, I prefer MS live and Google maps for that purpose. The new MS live with follow me turned on is particularly good!
Just looked at your first post, the traffic re rout on TOMTom, iGuidance or iGO is not the same as the real time traffic alerts on Telenav (or high end AIO's with traffic subscriptions).
Since we're doing multiple non reply posts here, I'll add-
I did some additional research, I have used the "latest" TT software(v6) which is almost 3 years old now (I was also wrong about my past nav experience which is more like 7-8 years, getting old is a *****). When TT6 and iG4 came out I made a choice to go with iG because it had text to speech. Though TT have updated the maps which was necessary, there are no new features and v6 is the end of the line for their stand alone software offerings.
TT6 lacks text to speech, acceptable in 2006 but not in 2009, having Ozzy curse out turn by turn directions only goes so far. Even my cheap $99 (now $79) Pharos AIO has text to speech. Saying TT6 is the "best" is like saying a car audio system lacking a ipod/mp3 player interface is the best. To get traffic info (not simple traffic re routing!) in a TT device, you need to pay for plus services and connect via bt with your cell phone. They do a good (sneaky) job of keeping the plus service cost from perspective buyers by requiring a service number to view the price. If you don't already own a TT device, I guess they feel you have no right to know. The best I can find is that traffic will cost ~$60/yr additional on a TT AIO running v6 or newer, but isn't offered at all on phones running v6(?). What I don't like about TT's method is if you don't have your phone with you, no traffic. After years of using separate pda and gps recievers, I much prefer a 1 device solution. Other mfg have built in or cable mounted recievers to get traffic info.
If I were BUYING a new AOI I would consider TT with newer software, if I had to have standalone software on my phone I'd go with iG 2009 and live with its restrictive DRM (locked to sd card) for newer maps or the older iG4. iGO isn't really an option as it isn't legitimately offered in the US and doesn't function well with this phone. Personally, I think that the majority still using stand alone nav on a WM phone either bought it years ago or frequent bittorent (or limewire, usenet, etc). With basic AIO's (PNA's) going for less than $100, there's little reason to use a small screen low volume phone.
OTH, if you want traffic avoidance and have a Telenav equiped phone, it might actually be a cheap alternative considering that traffic costs $5/mo or more on other devices. I still think lowering the price $2- $3 would get a lot more subscribers than the current $10 price.
Demo works better than the read nav!!!
http://www.diginetlink.com/iGuidance_mapping_software_p/igv4.htm

[Q] Offline Navigation

This is the question that has been asked countless times again, but bear with me while I try to justify creating yet another post on it. I am in the US, and mulling about a road trip to Alaska, and want to use my cell phone for navigation. The stretch involves international roaming, and miles of forests away from civilization, so having offline maps and navigation is needed. Google navigation works great in the city, but I need something better for the trip. Now, I am cheap bastard :laugh:, but don't mind forking over 40-50 dollars for the right app (with lifetime maps). I would also rather get it right the first time, and not have it fail me in the middle of nowhere. Here is the list I am working with right now:
Sygic: Known item at this point, has the most downloads and very well field tested. I tried the demo version for a week with great success. It did take me across some funky routes, but overall looked like something I can survive on. Great maps, sucky navigation
CoPilot: Again, known quantity. According to reviews, it has a better layout than Sygic (seriously, that bar is not hard to beat). I am downloading the demo right now, and going to give it a spin this week.
Google Navigation with offline maps: Strictly a no, since the area I can cache is very limited. Plus, that feature has always been flaky.
Nav Free: The price (0 $) is right, but the app sucks bigtime IMHO
MapDroyd: I got a headache out of trying this app. Seriously, it was that bad IMHO.
OsmAnd: There is something about apps using OSM that doesn't play with my phone. I couldn't get this to work at all.
TomTom: The big daddy. I'd rely on them as it is, seeing how well their standalone systems are, but 70$ for an app with no trial is too big for me to swallow.
skobbler: The latest kid in the block, but I've not been able to get their app to work.
And plenty of others, but every app I look at has both the loyal fanbase and the haters. Reading the reviews, it's difficult to wade through the information to pick out a winner. Also, this is 2013 now, there definitely must be some clearly better app by now
So yeah, I am tossing it out to you guys - do you have any recommendations? My main concerns, in terms of my priority are:
Voice Guided Navigation, offline
Offline Maps stored on SD card: I have about 8Gb free
Stable app, should not freeze on me when I need it the most
POIs - resturant, gas station etc..
Ability to see speed limits, warnings if I am over
Ability to record gpx would be a nice plus
Topo maps would be a kickass bonus
Thanks!
i think that at the moment best nav on Android is Sygic
as value for money is unbeatable
is the only fluid on my Galaxy S
(I also tried tomtom and copilot)

Asking for navigation

I want to ask , do we have any unlocked navigation for wp8.1 (ATIV S), for example copilot , or something similar with unlocked maps?
I ask , because, here drive+ eats a lot of battery. 4 hours and my phone dies.
I search especialy for east europe - Bulgaria would be great map
i have full version of Copilot navigation and not completely satisfied... still Nokia Drive+ is much better for routing navigation...
in Copilot, you can use free map pack for your region and test trial for voice guidance to see did good for you... also periodically Copilot give discounts for products..
also if you worried about battery life, get car kit for phone and no more problem with battery life...

Nokia Here Map GPS/SATNAV (True offline)

Hardest part for me when transiting from Nokia to... Well I have both iOS device and Android, one of the major downside for me was the awesome GPS - for free, worldwide, and truly offline. For those who want to dispute on Here Map - Nokia acquired Navteq back in 07 (I think?), which provides mapping data for Garmin and most of the European in-car GPS system. Out of the country I travel Here Map also has better POI compared to Google Maps in general. It truely offline, you can download selected country (or city, if offers) entirely and after without being on the internet (huge problem in some country if their internet is slow/expensive roaming). Today I'm finally excited that Nokia has announced it will be available for ALL Android devices: http://here.com/beta/android/?lang=en-US
It still in Beta, but so far running smooth on my S3 (modded TW JB ROM) and S4 Mini (Slimrom). It now only the PureView camera left that would still makes me think of Lumia... You guys definitely should give it a try.
PS. For the Lumia fanboys - I had a 1020, returned it within a month. I have no idea how you guys manage to stand it, but Windows on desktop is already troublesome for me. I don't want it in my pocket too.
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Update: Nokia has officially pushed the app to Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.here.app.maps&hl=en
The new version solved some SD card location mapping problem. It just gets better. :good:
Thanks for the heads up, looks good so far.
Nokia Here Map
Hi!!
great file, thanks
Thank you
Thank you very much for sharing this, I have just turned an old (not so old) Samsung Galaxy Trend Plus into a pure GPS only Nav. Would never have though of that with out you sharing this. Will be testing it out later today with the New Zealand Offline Maps. Well report back on how it goes.

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