For Archos 101/70 etc
here is the link now lets get to work
http://www.archos.com/support/download/software/sources/gen8-gpl-froyo.tgz
Custom ROMs like HTC Sense builds and Motoblur and Cyanogenmod should be more straightforward now.
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Root access and custom recovery are steps 1 and 2. Then that can happen. Hopefully Root isn't far away.
Fingers crossed because the froyo release archos delivered was a BIG disappointment for many..
Waiting for root and recovery.
Then, we can flash custom rom and kernel to the Archos tablet.
Really disappointed on the speed. At the beginning, I think 1G cpu should be really fast .... but now @ froyo, the speed is really slower than my Nexus one (very very much slower...)
Especially when doing multiple web-page browsing and heavy network loading, my Archos 70 lag lag lag all the time....
Hope Archos will release a fix that optimize the power of the machine very soon.
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Waiting for root and recovery.
Then, we can flash custom rom and kernel to the Archos tablet.
Really disappointed on the speed. At the beginning, I think 1G cpu should be really fast .... but now @ froyo, the speed is really slower than my Nexus one (very very much slower...)
Especially when doing multiple web-page browsing and heavy network loading, my Archos 70 lag lag lag all the time....
Hope Archos will release a fix that optimize the power of the machine very soon.
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Archos downclocked it to 800Mhz with 2.2 release.
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Archos downclocked it to 800Mhz with 2.2 release.
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While you are correct, I think the reason is not only limited to 800Mhz.
I set my Nexus One to 806Mhz and still find out the response and speed are much higher than my Archos 70 running at full speed (setcpu to 1000Mhz)
There must be something wrong in the firmware and the wifi driver that is not optimized such that the machine looks generally much much slower than any other android systems running at the same frequency.
Yes, 2.2.1 on Archos 70 s***s
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My Milestone downclocked to 250 mhz is faster than my Archos 70 at 800 or 1000 mhz....
Root access will complete the froyo update
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While you are correct, I think the reason is not only limited to 800Mhz.
I set my Nexus One to 806Mhz and still find out the response and speed are much higher than my Archos 70 running at full speed (setcpu to 1000Mhz)
There must be something wrong in the firmware and the wifi driver that is not optimized such that the machine looks generally much much slower than any other android systems running at the same frequency.
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Yeah but your nexus one also has double the memory, and it seems that the JIT doesnt work the same on the Archos 2.2 build , quadrant and linpack scores are pretty much the same from 2.1 to 2.2, where as on every phone 2.2 double or sometimes triple the linpack scores.
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While you are correct, I think the reason is not only limited to 800Mhz.
I set my Nexus One to 806Mhz and still find out the response and speed are much higher than my Archos 70 running at full speed (setcpu to 1000Mhz)
There must be something wrong in the firmware and the wifi driver that is not optimized such that the machine looks generally much much slower than any other android systems running at the same frequency.
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The problem with Archos 70 is the screen size and less RAM
The nexus one has a much smaller resolution for the CPU to draw while it has double the amount of RAM
End of story.
**Notice there's no GPU acceleration in Android UI even at 2.3. Wait till Honeycomb for that.
The nexus one has a much smaller resolution for the CPU to draw while it has double the amount of RAM
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suprise, resolution is the same
should not be so slow und unstable with 256RAM
czesiu said:
suprise, resolution is the same
should not be so slow und unstable with 256RAM
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oh my, i didn't know the N1 packed that many pixels...
sorry about the bad inform.
Then it's the CPU: Cortex A8 vs Snapdragon
and : 256MB vs 512MB of ram
but since both CPU clocked at 1GHz, most likely it's the ram that's not sufficient.
What would help is the ability to disable Multitask in apps except selective ones by user.
I guess Apple was RIGHT when they choose to not implement MULTITASK in the earlier iPhones. These also have limited RAM, only 128MB... leaving only 40MB after iOS boot up.
I'd be happy with my Archos with minimum Multitasking. Just music apps get multitask.
(I use Auto Memory Manager to auto kill apps when my memory hits certain level)
Guys, is it possible to speed up the tablet? The new rom works good, but sometimes it hangs a lot.. So is it possible too disable memory-eating processes??
Dreetje said:
Guys, is it possible to speed up the tablet? The new rom works good, but sometimes it hangs a lot.. So is it possible too disable memory-eating processes??
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Well You can use a task killer app to keep memory clear if you want. There are also several threads on Archosfans.com's forums about using z4root (only temp root at the moment) and the SetCPU to speed up the CPU to 1Ghz, and raise the min. clock value too.
I have mine on min. 800 and max. 1000 Mhz ... except when screen is off. Feels quite smooth, though when memory is full, it still gets a bit laggy.
I read somewhere that they have JIT disabled too.... dont quote me, but I read it from a thread that referenced another thread that said this other guy knew it was disabled...
I did read it somewhere, but I don't know if its true.
If the build.prop is any indication then it is not enabled. There is no command there to enable JIT like is on my other devices that have 2.2.
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If the build.prop is any indication then it is not enabled. There is no command there to enable JIT like is on my other devices that have 2.2.
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Interesting. If JIT is disable, then we're loosing a lot of performance just because of that. That and the under clocked 800 is a double kill.
Archos is rushing to put our a patch soon from what I've heard. The patch is suppose to include Flash and the JIT enabled. If this is the case, then the patch will do wonders for performance.
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Archos is rushing to put our a patch soon from what I've heard. The patch is suppose to include Flash and the JIT enabled. If this is the case, then the patch will do wonders for performance.
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This will be nice if true. I just hope they don't rush like they did with the first 2.2. I would rather wait a little bit to have more things working correctly.
If JIT was disabled on this build it would explain a lot. I had my A70 with 1.0.84 for day or two and it worked "faster" than with this froyo update. I'm no expert but... Archos was under lot of pressure to deliver 2.2 on Gen8 so they probably rushed it. I was gonna wait for better firmware of 2.2 but I didn't want to install all apps and then reinstall from scratch on 2.2. They are making these firmwares every 2-4 weeks so soon we will probably see another update. cajl, charbax any news on this?
Charbax is probably busy at LeWeb
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So as we all know with our devs pushing the cpu like up to these ridiculous speeds and our benchmarks not really showing the type of jump that we were really expecting, Is it possible that the way the CPU works is causing these scores not to score as high but not affect it's speed in the same way?
So after reading a bit on our CPU, from what I got from it ours does has about the average amount of IPS(instructions per second) compared to the snapdragon and it's custom architecture. However ours is said to be designed in a way that it requires 25-50% less instructions for 20~% of it's functions. So if thats the case we should be doing a little better in different areas.
In turn my real question is...
Because these benchmarks were built prior to our CPU being out, will that affect the numbers considering they probably aren't built for the way ours functions. Or am I just thinking way to far into this and have no idea what i'm talking about .
Which benchmarks are you referencing?
MFLOPS?
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Which benchmarks are you referencing?
MFLOPS?
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Anything from Linpack to SetCPU native benchmarks.
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Anything from Linpack to SetCPU native benchmarks.
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You should probably read a bit on LINPACK - it was originally designed in the late 70's, 1979 to be precise, it was a set of Fortran procedures to perform numeric linear algebra. It is quite affected by the OS, and that's why you see LINPACK scores on 2.2+ systems are quite "improved" over 2.1 or earlier systems running better or the same hardware.
As far as SetCPU is concerned - there is no point running the benchmark on the CPU's that do not support NEON instructions, NEON is a Cortex-A specific (our phone and iPhone4 are among the few that have it); running it on a non-Cortex-A CPU, like a G2's GenII Snapdragon/Sciorpion from Qualcomm, does nothing but confuse people with bunch of numbers (the numbers are correct, they show how long it took that CPU to ignore the instruction instead of execute it, ignoring takes a lot less time than executing ).
And the C number in native SetCPU, I would assume it is a condition set on the instruction set to Carry on even if the previous instruction resulted in NOP (No Operation), so in the case of the glorified G2 for instance (you prolly saw the pretty screenshots) after ignoring the NEON instruction, it carries on ignoring the next NEON instruction throwing at it, so I am not sure what it is indicative of though, have to ask the SetCPU dev.
I hope this helps.
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You should probably read a bit on LINPACK - it was originally designed in the late 70's, 1979 to be precise, it was a set of Fortran procedures to perform numeric linear algebra. It is quite affected by the OS, and that's why you see LINPACK scores on 2.2+ systems are quite "improved" over 2.1 or earlier systems running better or the same hardware.
As far as SetCPU is concerned - there is no point running the benchmark on the CPU's that do not support NEON instructions, NEON is a Cortex-A specific (our phone and iPhone4 are among the few that have it); running it on a non-Cortex-A CPU, like a G2's GenII Snapdragon/Sciorpion from Qualcomm, does nothing but confuse people with bunch of numbers (the numbers are correct, they show how long it took that CPU to ignore the instruction instead of execute it, ignoring takes a lot less time than executing ).
And the C number in native SetCPU, I would assume it is a condition set on the instruction set to Carry on even if the previous instruction resulted in NOP (No Operation), so in the case of the glorified G2 for instance (you prolly saw the pretty screenshots) after ignoring the NEON instruction, it carries on ignoring the next NEON instruction throwing at it, so I am not sure what it is indicative of though, have to ask the SetCPU dev.
I hope this helps.
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It does help very much so which is sort of what i was seeing regarding SetCPU scores, they didn't seem correct based off the newer frequency's of the TeamWhiskey kernel they are developing. This would make sense.
So regarding linpack and 2.2, why is it that the Snapdragon is able to pull out these 55+ linpack results? It doesn't make sense that our CPU wouldn't be capable to pull off the same with what were are able to OC our CPU too, were getting much lower results compared to other phones moving to 2.2, if you can please explain this a little further. Thanks!
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It does help very much so which is sort of what i was seeing regarding SetCPU scores, they didn't seem correct based off the newer frequency's of the TeamWhiskey kernel they are developing. This would make sense.
So regarding linpack and 2.2, why is it that the Snapdragon is able to pull out these 55+ linpack results? It doesn't make sense that our CPU wouldn't be capable to pull off the same with what were are able to OC our CPU too, were getting much lower results compared to other phones moving to 2.2, if you can please explain this a little further. Thanks!
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It's the OS limitation, and I am trying not to make an excuse for it, but RFS as well.
LINPACK score is highly affected on what your OS is doing, and how it is doing what it does , given a fair chance, with Galaxy S hopefully getting 2.2 this year (LOL), and team z4mod developing the overhaul of the cripple RFS you will see comparable LINPACK scores.
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It's the OS limitation, and I am trying not to make an excuse for it, but RFS as well.
LINPACK score is highly affected on what your OS is doing, and how it is doing what it does , given a fair chance, with Galaxy S hopefully getting 2.2 this year (LOL), and team z4mod developing the overhaul of the cripple RFS you will see comparable LINPACK scores.
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You made some realy great points, it is always good to have knowledgeable people around to answer technical questions. However, I don't understand how RFS, a file system affects arithmetic calculation? (from what I read, Linpack is basically a really difficult math problem).
It's the OS limitation, and I am trying not to make an excuse for it, but RFS as well.
LINPACK score is highly affected on what your OS is doing, and how it is doing what it does , given a fair chance, with Galaxy S hopefully getting 2.2 this year (LOL), and team z4mod developing the overhaul of the cripple RFS you will see comparable LINPACK scores.
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Thanks for the very in depth answers. Hopefully fixing the filesystem would fix the speeds and such of the CPU. I'm hoping your right on that idea. If thats the case, do you think we will be comparable to the G2's Extremely high scores?
You made some realy great points, it is always good to have knowledgeable people around to answer technical questions. However, I don't understand how RFS, a file system affects arithmetic calculation? (from what I read, Linpack is basically a really difficult math problem).
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On a second note, what would compel Samsung to use such filesystem? Is it because of the proprietary side of it?
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Thanks for the very in depth answers. Hopefully fixing the filesystem would fix the speeds and such of the CPU. I'm hoping your right on that idea. If thats the case, do you think we will be comparable to the G2's Extremely high scores?
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On a second note, what would compel Samsung to use such filesystem? Is it because of the proprietary side of it?
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I might've gone there on a limp, but from my understanding is that floating point operations stressed out by computing NxN matrix (LINPACK benchmark) is optimized to take an advantage of the L2 cache on the processor. Well our processor has 512K L2 cache if I am not mistaken, and from what I read on Qualcomm CPU in G2 - it has no cache at all. So where to keep the data? The next fastest media is memory and then disk I/O, and idsk I/O is where the weakest link is, given the fact that we have a decaying FAT32 implementation the weakest link is even weaker.
Remember your system is as good as your weakest link.
Did I make a plausible excuse ?
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I might've gone there on a limp, but from my understanding is that floating point operations stressed out by computing NxN matrix (LINPACK benchmark) is optimized to take an advantage of the L2 cache on the processor. Well our processor has 512K L2 cache if I am not mistaken, and from what I read on Qualcomm CPU in G2 - it has no cache at all. So where to keep the data? The next fastest media is memory and then disk I/O, and idsk I/O is where the weakest link is, given the fact that we have a decaying FAT32 implementation the weakest link is even weaker.
Remember your system is as good as your weakest link.
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It COULD be possible, considering how freeing up RAM increases linpack scores (to an extend). But how about people who have voodoo? Isn't that ext 4, so linpack on those system should fly off the chart but they don't/
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It COULD be possible, considering how freeing up RAM increases linpack scores (to an extend). But how about people who have voodoo? Isn't that ext 4, so linpack on those system should fly off the chart but they don't/
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Voodoo only addresses /data, I would assume instructions for LINPACK calculation will be punted to /cache
So then the new z4mod should (hopefully) raise our linpack scores fairly higher since thats a 100% complete conversion correct?
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So then the new z4mod should (hopefully) raise our linpack scores fairly higher since thats a 100% complete conversion correct?
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I believe with mature z4mod and a stable froyo build the Galaxy S will shine, hopefully it is not a wishful thinking, and these things happen sooner than later for us.
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I believe with mature z4mod and a stable froyo build the Galaxy S will shine, hopefully it is not a wishful thinking, and these things happen sooner than later for us.
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+1 to that.
I tried asking this in the Megatron-thread but as usual, no answers...
I am a little worried about keeping my phone overclocked at all times, so I was thinking about downloading SetCPU and switching between 600 and 700 via that app. But my question is this: Megatron ROM overclocks the phone by default. If I download a 3rd-party app to overclock/underclock the phone, will this mess up the whole system?
Anyone? Would really appreciate help!
i've been using megatron & setcpu together for the past month.. no issues yet, so cant promise ma phone wont go up in flames i clock extra if needed
Ok, thanks!
My Experience: USing LOL rom with default OC gave me kernel panics ...so instead i disabled OC in ROm and wud then OC using SetCPu...ALso I dont know why but touch feels a lot more smoother on LOL rom with the lag fix than megatron....so i switched from megatron to LOL...Currently even with maxCPu 480Mhz and conservative profile..touch is very smooth on LOL
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My Experience: USing LOL rom with default OC gave me kernel panics ...so instead i disabled OC in ROm and wud then OC using SetCPu...ALso I dont know why but touch feels a lot more smoother on LOL rom with the lag fix than megatron....so i switched from megatron to LOL...Currently even with maxCPu 480Mhz and conservative profile..touch is very smooth on LOL
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How do I disable the OC in Megatron? By adding the "minitron" file and then using SetCPU?
Hi all,
I'm a newbie in Android world. Successfully flashed my O1 to Megatron v1. Afterwhich I tried installing SetCPU to it and overclock to 806mhz & above. However, after overclocking with SetCPU, the whole phone's performance became more sluggish than the original Megatron 729mhz...
Someone please advise me on how to overcome this and make the phone speedier with high frequency.
Is there a way to edit some of Megatron's kernel to make it 806mhz on default even without using SetCPU?
Don't use set on boot feature, it will make ur phone get stock on bootloop...
So can someone tell me how to proceed with this? I want to be able to change between 600 and 700, when I please. Thanks
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Don't use set on boot feature, it will make ur phone get stock on bootloop...
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Got it! Tried last night without set on boot feature. Working fine with 806mhz and speedier than 729mhz. However my chipset refuses to go into higher frequency without freezing and rebooting... Is it due to my microsd card? I'm still using the original 2gb microsd card tt came together with the O1... Will changing to a class 6 or higher microsd card let me clock higher? or my chipset is just lemon at 806mhz?
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So can someone tell me how to proceed with this? I want to be able to change between 600 and 700, when I please. Thanks
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FnH84: I downloaded SetCPU from XDA forum and can tweak the frequency between 600 & 700 by myself. Even can set profiles to govern the speed at different situations.
taeivon said:
However my chipset refuses to go into higher frequency without freezing and rebooting... Is it due to my microsd card?
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You are already pushing the CPU to its limit with that 806 MHz frequency. Do you even realize is 34% above the designed specs for this CPU? You're already lucky enough you got it stable at 806, and no SD card will ever make a difference, they're not related.
How come Samsung Galaxy Mini running on the same chipset offer 800Mhz as stock???
Man, I don't know! How come the same "Pentium IV" processor could come in speeds from 1.3 GHz to 3.8 GHz?
Can any of you actually believe that LG would underclock an 800 MHz CPU and sell it to us as a 600 MHz instead of letting it run at its best?
Galaxy Mini is obviously using a CPU designed to run at 800 MHz, even though it bears the same name. And that one can probably be overclocked to above 1 GHz.
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You are already pushing the CPU to its limit with that 806 MHz frequency. Do you even realize is 34% above the designed specs for this CPU? You're already lucky enough you got it stable at 806, and no SD card will ever make a difference, they're not related.
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Thanks for your reply. I was thinking bout the same as the other guy, that galaxy ace can run at 800mhz, and why not O1.
Hmm... Isn't there any other ways to push the frequency higher? Maybe supply more voltage to the core? I dont mind sacrificing batt life, I just wanna try ways to push it to the max~~
My phone is running on CM7 Beta 3 and I want to overclock it to 1.5 Ghz I followed the inscructions here http://bugbig.com/how-to-overclock-motorola-atrix-4g-to-1-5-ghz
and when I typed on the emulator : ''insmod olympus_overclock.ko'' it was written : insmod: init_module 'olympus_overclock.ko' failed (exec format error)
I'm running on Faux's kernel (faux123) so what can I do to overclock my phone to 1.5 Ghz ?
Thank you in advance
Why 1.5? What's magic about that number? Doubt we will ever see 1.5 on Atrix. Dual core already gets hot enough at 1.1 and there is no cooling available. Different to a single core OC.
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that guide is extremely outdated. the kernel module you're trying to use was released before the bootloader was unlocked, and as far as i've read from Faux123 there is something limiting our ability to overclock that we just haven't broken through yet.
belig1234 said:
My phone is running on CM7 Beta 3 and I want to overclock it to 1.5 Ghz I followed the inscructions here http://bugbig.com/how-to-overclock-motorola-atrix-4g-to-1-5-ghz
and when I typed on the emulator : ''insmod olympus_overclock.ko'' it was written : insmod: init_module 'olympus_overclock.ko' failed (exec format error)
I'm running on Faux's kernel (faux123) so what can I do to overclock my phone to 1.5 Ghz ?
Thank you in advance
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A few things to consider.
May be the kernel you are using is not meant to work with CM7 Beta.
May be you are following the steps but the guide itself is broken.
May be you are trying to OC your phone to 1.5 GHz but the script is broken.
You said you are running Faux's kernel, well that kernel is only taking your phone to 1.1 GHz, how and why do you expect your phone to magically OC itself to 1.5?
Just 2 cents : I agree with CaelanT, this phone is a Monster itself. When you OC your phone to 1.1, it just bloody flies... Whats the need to OC it all the way to 1.5? Also, while OC'd, it heats up like a *****... I have seen my phone temperature reaching > 45 degrees... Man, it feels like a burning charcoal... I am just wondering if one will actually end up blowing up his/her phone just cuz of OC'd phone.
I actually keep mine underclocked...
Cheers!!!
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A few things to consider.
May be the kernel you are using is not meant to work with CM7 Beta.
May be you are following the steps but the guide itself is broken.
May be you are trying to OC your phone to 1.5 GHz but the script is broken.
You said you are running Faux's kernel, well that kernel is only taking your phone to 1.1 GHz, how and why do you expect your phone to magically OC itself to 1.5?
Just 2 cents : I agree with CaelanT, this phone is a Monster itself. When you OC your phone to 1.1, it just bloody flies... Whats the need to OC it all the way to 1.5? Also, while OC'd, it heats up like a *****... I have seen my phone temperature reaching > 45 degrees... Man, it feels like a burning charcoal... I am just wondering if one will actually end up blowing up his/her phone just cuz of OC'd phone.
I actually keep mine underclocked...
Cheers!!!
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Hi,
If there is a limit on clock frequencies, in my experience that implies a multiplier register needs to be changed. But a 50% overclock is rather ambitious, 10% is probably the safest range.
Cheers!
NFHimself said:
Hi,
If there is a limit on clock frequencies, in my experience that implies a multiplier register needs to be changed. But a 50% overclock is rather ambitious, 10% is probably the safest range.
Cheers!
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Excessively overclocking mobile devices - is an incredibly stupid idea,... unless you have no problem getting a hardbrick one day.
Try overclocking your desktop PC up to 50% without additional cooling and let us know how it goes. Phones have NO cooling, they weren't meant to be overclocked that much.
Besides our current Tegra 2 setup has enough performance for everything available on Android at this moment.
If anything is lagging for you, that's because:
1. Motorola released crappy laggy motoblur
2. some app developer released crappy laggy app
Why does overclocking always turn into a penis measuring contest?
Focus on software optimisation, not on more raw performance to make up for crappy code.
ok thank you everyone I'll stick with kernel faux123
xploited said:
Excessively overclocking mobile devices - is an incredibly stupid idea,... unless you have no problem getting a hardbrick one day.
Try overclocking your desktop PC up to 50% without additional cooling and let us know how it goes. Phones have NO cooling, they weren't meant to be overclocked that much.
Besides our current Tegra 2 setup has enough performance for everything available on Android at this moment.
If anything is lagging for you, that's because:
1. Motorola released crappy laggy motoblur
2. some app developer released crappy laggy app
Why does overclocking always turn into a penis measuring contest?
Focus on software optimisation, not on more raw performance to make up for crappy code.
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Hi,
The internet has heard your complaint and will adjust itself accordingly. Lol
Cheers!
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Faux just tweeted ATRIX can be overclocked to 1.3 http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=1873
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I just overclocked my sgs 2 to 1.6ghz so I'm sure the Atrix will get there soon.
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I would like to see 1.5ghz too. hopefully our chipset can handle that
When I look in system info in quadrant after running full bench it only shows 1 core but when I reboot or end application and relaunch it recognizes both cores.
belig1234 said:
My phone is running on CM7 Beta 3 and I want to overclock it to 1.5 Ghz I followed the inscructions here http://bugbig.com/how-to-overclock-motorola-atrix-4g-to-1-5-ghz
and when I typed on the emulator : ''insmod olympus_overclock.ko'' it was written : insmod: init_module 'olympus_overclock.ko' failed (exec format error)
I'm running on Faux's kernel (faux123) so what can I do to overclock my phone to 1.5 Ghz ?
Thank you in advance
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That module doesnt work, please check 0.1.8 from faux, everybody is having bootloops, but im loving to have 1.3ghz OC ^^
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ChongoDroid said:
I just overclocked my sgs 2 to 1.6ghz so I'm sure the Atrix will get there soon.
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SGS2 starts out with dual core 1.2GHz, so technically you haven't reached a .5GHz OC there. Even if you did, comparing the SGS2 to the Atrix is apples to oranges.
The problem with the Atrix is not only whether the hardware will OC to 1.5GHz. Heat is the biggest problem, and with very high temps on a 1.1GHz OC under load I doubt as I mentioned before we will ever reach 1.5GHz.
I don't know what temps the SGS2 processor gets to, so I can't comment on that.
1.1/1.2 GHz is quite fast enough for me, and as someone else said, it just turns into an epeen war, with no actual rhyme or reason for wanting to OC so high other than to see if it is possible, which is all good and well.
I can OC my PC way higher than it currently is, but I choose a conservative approach because I do not want to fry any components, have graphical artifacts, etc. Same goes for my phone. I want stability and to not have to wave it around in the air to manually actively cool it!
CaelanT said:
SGS2 starts out with dual core 1.2GHz, so technically you haven't reached a .5GHz OC there. Even if you did, comparing the SGS2 to the Atrix is apples to oranges.
The problem with the Atrix is not only whether the hardware will OC to 1.5GHz. Heat is the biggest problem, and with very high temps on a 1.1GHz OC under load I doubt as I mentioned before we will ever reach 1.5GHz.
I don't know what temps the SGS2 processor gets to, so I can't comment on that.
1.1/1.2 GHz is quite fast enough for me, and as someone else said, it just turns into an epeen war, with no actual rhyme or reason for wanting to OC so high other than to see if it is possible, which is all good and well.
I can OC my PC way higher than it currently is, but I choose a conservative approach because I do not want to fry any components, have graphical artifacts, etc. Same goes for my phone. I want stability and to not have to wave it around in the air to manually actively cool it!
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hahahaha well said! but how is comparing the 2 apples to oranges??? aren't they almost identical
Hi im thinking of doing a overclock to 1.5 ghz is it safe for the processor and the battery life witch already sucks. has anyone on here whos done it using setcpu and the rom had any problems after doing so ? and how much faster is 1.5 ghz compared to 1.2 ghz on the galaxy s2 ? and is it safe in general for the hardware of the phone will the phone get hotter or have over heating problems ? also what should my settings be for minimum maximum and the voltages ?
Of course oc is going to make ur battery life a lot worse.
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I haven' used Setcpu in a while but I believe it's got a feature to stress test the settings to see if it can handle it. Generally the worst that happens is it'll crash. So long as it doesn't get hot. Heat=death for electronics :')
I'm using tegrak (from market) to overclock to 1.4. I found 1.5 was too unstable. Noticeable difference between 1.2 & 1.4 is almost none. Also voltage increase of 50mv was needed to gain stability. There is not much point of overclocking the device IMO unless like me u just get some satisfaction out of knowing its running faster!
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I'm using tegrak (from market) to overclock to 1.4. I found 1.5 was too unstable. Noticeable difference between 1.2 & 1.4 is almost none. Also voltage increase of 50mv was needed to gain stability. There is not much point of overclocking the device IMO unless like me u just get some satisfaction out of knowing its running faster!
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This is true. I see no difference between 1.2 & 1.5ghz. But that doesn't keep me from running it at 1.5 when I'm playing a game anyway :'D
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Hi im thinking of doing a overclock to 1.5 ghz is it safe for the processor and the battery life witch already sucks. has anyone on here whos done it using setcpu and the rom had any problems after doing so ? and how much faster is 1.5 ghz compared to 1.2 ghz on the galaxy s2 ? and is it safe in general for the hardware of the phone will the phone get hotter or have over heating problems ? also what should my settings be for minimum maximum and the voltages ?
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Well it's not safe, that I can say. Nothing is safe when you don't know what other things are changing with the clock rate. But still you could do that. You just have to make sure that the temperature is within limit, it will be definitely high, but make sure it's not that high.
And upping the clock rate to 1.5 GHz won't drain any extra battery than 1.2 GHz.
Regards.
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Hi im thinking of doing a overclock to 1.5 ghz is it safe for the processor and the battery life witch already sucks. has anyone on here whos done it using setcpu and the rom had any problems after doing so ? and how much faster is 1.5 ghz compared to 1.2 ghz on the galaxy s2 ? and is it safe in general for the hardware of the phone will the phone get hotter or have over heating problems ? also what should my settings be for minimum maximum and the voltages ?
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I tried the overclocking and each phone is different, increase then test, there are many benchmarking apps out there, I was stable at 1.4, my kernel does not include 1.5 GHz, and irregardless of what people may say, running the phone at higher clock speeds consistently DOES drain the battery more than 1.2GHz, unless you have found a way to manipulate the laws of physics. I don't see how one can fathom the thought that you can get a faster CPU at absolutely no cost.
Many people think when the CPU running faster means you complete tasks faster, hence 1.5 would complete a task faster than 1.2 and hence save battery, but I believe we use this phone as more than a calculator, so when you are performing a task that causes the CPU to run at 1.5 for a period of time e.g playing a game, browsing or whatever you do with your phone, then the CPU has to draw more power to keep the frequency at 1.5 as compared to the CPU running at 1.2
All in all, I dialed back because I was doing fine without it and I did not need it, other people may need it, and I wasn't gaining anything. to answer your question directly, it all depends on what you do with your phone, I'm not a huge gamer or anything and the 1.2GHz has proven to be more than enough for me to have a very pleasant experience using this device
Using it occasionally is safe, unless you stress your mobile at 1.5+ ghz for more than an hour or so.
The cpu governor will only make use of higher frequencies when there is a need, so mostly you will see your mobile idling at 200 mhz.
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Of course oc is going to make ur battery life a lot worse.
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Not necessarily a lot worse. It depends on how you are using your phone, and what is causing it to run fast. If overclocking allows the phone to spend longer in deep sleep state, your battery will win. If its games, and by OC you achieve a higher frame rate, then the phone is doing more work, and this will be reflected in the battery life going down.
Most of the time, screen on is going to dominate. If you are a low screen-on user, I guess there is more chance for a higher max_cpu to be beneficial (it won't be used unless there is a task that requires it). More accurately, it helps some of the time, so the net result is not always obvious to predict.
How about undervolting?
Any danger in doing so- other than crashing when voltage is too low?
Before over clocking it might be worth downloading cpuspy from the market and seeing what time you spend in each speed.
Chances are most of the time you won't even hit 1.2 so might not have anything to gain by over clocking.
Then again I dont know how you use your device but I do know I was surprised when I found out.
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I've played with the SuperSonic version of this phone (which has a 1.5Ghz core) and the results from photos/video are much better, I'm pretty sure the cameras are exactly the same but the SuperSonic benefits from the higher CPU.
I think it would be cool if somebody could write an app that states
IF user opens Camera application voltage + clock speed is increased to allow stable 1.5GHz speed
WHEN user closes camera application overclock turns off.
Thoughts?
You have a smartphone! Not a pc!
I didnt see any advantage if you oc to 1.5
Btw In normal use your phone keep in 200mhz not 1.2.
I think i only hit 1.2 two or 3 times for 3 seconds in a full battery cycle.
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oc dosnt make sense ,there no noticeable diff,an yes very few times i hit 1.2 mostly its on 800 or few times on 1000....using a device with 1.5ghz proccesor an oc a device to 1.5 ghz which has 1ghz processor is very diff in nature....
Fair enough.
Well I wouldn't mind an app that mazes out at 1.2GHz with camera app open, as it can lag when shooting HD.
oc upto 1.4 ghz is fair enough, anything more than that is a waste. though you cant find any visible difference between 1,1.2 and 1.4 it does helps in maintaining smoothness on some situations.
yes very true i had oc my sgs1 at 1.2ghz and sgs2 at 1.4ghz but frankly i dint see the diff so after few days use i turnd to orignal settings....but many use oc an phone works fine,but depends on personel use......an yes as bala_gammer says its fine on 1.4ghz......cheeeerz
is overclocking galaxy s2 to 1.3gh safe
HEY pople and friends i want to overclock my samsung galaxy s2 to 1.3gh soo is it safe ??????.
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HEY pople and friends i want to overclock my samsung galaxy s2 to 1.3gh soo is it safe ??????.
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hey mate
u really think 100mhz would make that much change? its safe btw... seen people running s2 at clock speed higher than 1.3ghz
Plz help @..Longtime hd gaming(gta sa,nfs mw , asphalt,modern combat...) using 1.4 ghz is safe?
I also noted that gameloft games are makes more over heat for phone..
Which is the best and safe voltage level for 1.4 ghz 1250mv or 1275mv or 1300mv
Iam using siyah v6.0b5 kernel with wizzedkat 3.1..
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Well u do not see much difference on daily usage due to oc..but it does give a smoother experience while playing high quality games
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is there any option to raise SGS3 CPU to 2000mhz or something like that?
EDIT: NEW AS 14/7
kk so i guess the highest and most stablest cpu might be till 1800mhz
1and what about ram? there is any overclocking for ram memory? (couldnt find anything about it)
2what about GPU?
not yet, i think the highest clock right now is 1.5 for the sgs3
and RAM, NO you can not get MORE ram, you can eliminate apps that eating up ram to free some up but no way to get more ram.
is there any need to overclock this beast lol its fast enough
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not yet, i think the highest clock right now is 1.5 for the sgs3
and RAM, NO you can not get MORE ram, you can eliminate apps that eating up ram to free some up but no way to get more ram.
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He wasn't referring to getting more RAM though was he? It read to me that he wanted to see if was possible to increase the clock speed of the RAM along with the CPU.
yep just wondering if there is any option for that as in SGS1+2
do you guys think when there is OC for s3, it will raise CPU to 2000MHz ?
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yep just wondering if there is any option for that as in SGS1+2
do you guys think when there is OC for s3, it will raise CPU to 2000MHz ?
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Already there OC/UV running 1500Mhz right now. Max 1800Mhz.
Look into de developers topics for the kernel..
Ive looked there.. stiil misunderstand something-
there is any OC of 2000mhz now?
Note that the Exynos 4Core CPU is still not very well understood and may well get long-time damage when ramping up the clock speed aggressively.
Is there actually ANY need for going so high except to show off?
You'll be measuring any speed improvement in loading things up in microseconds because people say Samsung still hasn't fully optimised the phone to the OS yet, so I think it's a bit pointless stressing the phone that much.
1.8GHZ is currently the max however with kmemhelper you should be able to change the last frequency to 2.0...
Hell I'll even find out the script for you if you are mad enough to try it first
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I doubt you'll get it 2GHz stable anyway. From what I've heard most people have theirs crap out at 1.8GHz.
kk so i guess the highest and most stablest cpu might be till 1800mhz
1and what about ram? there is any overclocking for ram memory? (couldnt find anything about it)
2what about GPU?
to make it clear:
i wanna know which ram overclocking is available to do on the SGS3 as long as the device still stables.
same with GPU and all those stuff.. there is a really good lvl of OC like in S1 S2?
still waiting for help
I would go for Siyah kernel and try 1.8 GHz then under volt using voltage control or extweaks app. Most phones can go 100 mv on all steps except maybe the very highest clocks.
gpu overclock is not possible yet
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OC of the ram is connected to bus speed and this is very different to the fixed bus in the sgs1 so nothing like live oc is possible. Still 400 mhz bus speed is 4 times faster than the CHAt!
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I`am running RGUI v7 rom and siyah kernel 1.3.8a. My clockspeed is 1600 Mhz and is rockstable, snappy and battery life is great.
I don`t go any higher for daily use, it doesn`t make much difference in speed and i think it cuts down your cpu-life.
ho so no LIVE OC is available now? (like in S1 and s2)?
well hoping it will be possible to add those functions(live oc, ram, cpu, and more..) in Android JB 4.1
My Captivate (SGS1) can hit 1.92GHz... So I think that a CPU with a stock clock of 1.4GHz can hit 2GHz easily. We will just have to see. I am not pushing this phone though. I don't have $700 to replace it.
well hoping it will be possible to add those functions(live oc, ram, cpu, and more..) in Android JB 4.1
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That's not depended on the ROM but on whether the hardware allows to modify the values and if kernel developers figure out how to do it.