[Q] Going to root a friend's Aria... couple questions - HTC Aria Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

A coworker saw my rooted CM6.1 Aria and wants me to do his phone for him. I warned him of the risks and he still wants me to do it.
First question, which ROM should I go with for a novice user who doesn't need too many options, just wants to get rid of the AT&T crap and be able to take advantage of tethering.
Second question, does the SIM card need to be in the phone when I root it and install the ROM?

Rooting the Aria is pretty safe at this point...Unrevoked Sticky.
You don't necessarily need to install a new ROM to cover what you're looking for. Removing (AT&T or other) bloatware is a problem that's been solved...
When I rooted my phone, I didn't have my SIM card in...maybe just habit from old windows mobile flashing.

Which ROM
911jason said:
A coworker saw my rooted CM6.1 Aria and wants me to do his phone for him. I warned him of the risks and he still wants me to do it.
First question, which ROM should I go with for a novice user who doesn't need too many options, just wants to get rid of the AT&T crap and be able to take advantage of tethering.
Second question, does the SIM card need to be in the phone when I root it and install the ROM?
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I've been on Liberated R012 for some time; it's rock solid.

911jason said:
A coworker saw my rooted CM6.1 Aria and wants me to do his phone for him. I warned him of the risks and he still wants me to do it.
First question, which ROM should I go with for a novice user who doesn't need too many options, just wants to get rid of the AT&T crap and be able to take advantage of tethering.
Second question, does the SIM card need to be in the phone when I root it and install the ROM?
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in my opinion your best bet would be to root his aria and immediately do a nandroid should he ever want to revert. Then flash for him whatever rom you're using. This way if he has any questions or problems it will be easier for you to help him as you'll be familiar with the rom. Sure cm6 has a ton of options, but that doesn't mean he has to use them, and if he ever does they'll be there.

let him play around on your CM6 and let him decide if he wants that or to stick with sense(liberated)

I'd just give him Liberated w/ Froyo. Don't give him the old Liberated custom ROM.

kaschenberg said:
I'd just give him Liberated w/ Froyo. Don't give him the old Liberated custom ROM.
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This was pretty much what I was thinking too.. he's already familiar with the stock Aria so having Sense will be a plus. I figured I'd root, Nandroid back-up, install Liberated Froyo, install Swype and a few other helpful apps and then it's all his...

Liberated Sense or Liberated Froyo
911jason said:
This was pretty much what I was thinking too.. he's already familiar with the stock Aria so having Sense will be a plus. I figured I'd root, Nandroid back-up, install Liberated Froyo, install Swype and a few other helpful apps and then it's all his...
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I've tried both, repeatedly, and always go back to Liberated R012; REASONS: it appears to be quicker, and the battery lasts forever. I've not had the same experience with Liberated Froyo.

cease said:
I've tried both, repeatedly, and always go back to Liberated R012; REASONS: it appears to be quicker, and the battery lasts forever. I've not had the same experience with Liberated Froyo.
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How long of a battery life with what kind of usage?

Battery life
brswattt said:
How long of a battery life with what kind of usage?
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Days, even with WiFi on, Internet access, taking/making calls, etc. I don't have counts of things done on one vs. the other, but just know that R012 lasts longer than Liberated Froyo and it is quicker. I tried Froyo last week again, not as quick and ate up battery, so am back on R012 this week again. I'm staying.

Are there any downsides to Liberated R012? Wi-fi or bluetooth buggy, etc?

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[Q] Best method for rooting AT&T X10?

I just got my AT&T Xperia X10 and want to root it, mainly to get rid of the AT&T apps they shove on by default and I can't rid of. What is the best method?
I can't give you the links I looked at as I'm new on this forum and they don't allow new users to post outside links. I looked at a link titled:
"Exploid One Click .apk Root (Latest v.1.06 12 Aug. 2010)" (this forum)
...and another one titled:
"Exploid Root Method for Xperia X10 [Tutorial]" (xperiax10.net)
My phone has build number R2CA016 on it, I assume there's no loss of functionality by going to a slightly older build? FYI, my model is X10A.
Thanks.
In my experience, keeping the AT&T build is the better option. My battery life is much better and the phone performs better with no stability issues.
I tried the long method first. I had some issues with the battery barely lasting a day and the device rebooting randomly. It also seemed to get much hotter when using it.
I also tried a few of the decrypted X10a ROMS like Rogers and Latin America Generic. They also exhibited lower battery life and the Latin version had some random reboots.
I went back to the stock AT&T ROM, rooted, removed all the AT&T crapware, and re-enabled the non-market apps option. The phone has been amazingly stable and the battery will last me two days.
Additionally, I found Handcent and ADW both reduced my battery life significantly so I am not using either of those on my phone now. I also remove ALL the AT&T apps including the Exchange app.
Slow down, I'm still getting to grips with this phone!
Right now the battery lasts just over one day, so I'm trying to figure out what apps are running in the background so I can axe anything un-necessary. When you say the "long method", do you mean the procedure in this forum called "Exploid One Click", or the one in the Xperax10.net forum?
Can I save the stock ROM that's installed, so I can go back to it if I want? I just want to remove the garbage-ware to be honest, I don't use Facebook, Youtube, Timescape or all the other apps AT&T puts on. Can you give me a procedure for what you did? Sticking to the AT&T ROM sounds like a good idea, I just want to remove the AT&T apps. FYI, I need an app that let's me connect to MS Exchange.
aln688 said:
"Exploid Root Method for Xperia X10 [Tutorial]" (xperiax10.net)
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Also on this forum. Many people now use the one click method, but any of the guides found in this section of the forum will do, it just depends which way you feel most comfortable with.
XperiaX10iUser said:
Also on this forum. Many people now use the one click method, but any of the guides found in this section of the forum will do, it just depends which way you feel most comfortable with.
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I'm alright using any of the methods, especially with command prompts, I just wasn't sure if my phone being AT&T would cause a problem. The goal is to wipe the AT&T apps off and just put on what I need.
So far as ROMs, is there any in particular I should be looking at? Surely my ROM is newer than some referred to in the guides? I see "R2BA026" mentioned a lot, where-as I have R2CA016.
I also want a Wi-Fi app that can connect to hidden networks. The default app on my phone works, but when you move away from the network and come back, it no longer sees it. So I'll be looking for a new app for Wi-Fi connections.
Thanks.
I used the longer of two, and I have experienced much better battery life with juice defender on my rooted x10.. All depends what u do and what u have running I guess...but, no probs since rooting a month ago and still going strong. Also, I do not see batt drain from adw and I have been using it for over a month.
Fyi, originally a rogers locked x10a, now unlocked, rooted and running 026 firmware. Hope that helps.. Good luck.
Sent via Swype via rooted Xperia X10a via XDA app.
aln688 said:
Surely my ROM is newer than some referred to in the guides? I see "R2BA026" mentioned a lot, where-as I have R2CA016.
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Just use the one click method then, install Titanium Backup and remove whatever apps you want.
XperiaX10iUser said:
Just use the one click method then, install Titanium Backup and remove whatever apps you want.
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Yes, use the one-click to root. Then you need to install a root file explorer to remove the apk files in the \data\app-private directory. Otherwise, when you uninstall with Titanium Backup it just reinstalls them automatically. If you don't understand what I am saying you can send me a private message and I'll help you through it.
There is one particular apk that you do not want to remove if you need Exchange support. That apk is com.nitrodesk.sony.nitroid.apk
To re-enable non-market apps, look for the non-market app thread under the Samsung Captivate on this forum. The only difference is that on our phone, the settings.db file is in /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db. You will need to use that in the place of the directory for the Captivate settings.db
Jikenda said:
I used the longer of two, and I have experienced much better battery life with juice defender on my rooted x10.. All depends what u do and what u have running I guess...but, no probs since rooting a month ago and still going strong. Also, I do not see batt drain from adw and I have been using it for over a month.
Fyi, originally a rogers locked x10a, now unlocked, rooted and running 026 firmware. Hope that helps.. Good luck.
Sent via Swype via rooted Xperia X10a via XDA app.
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I'm not sure what to say here. I have tested battery life with and without Handcent SMS and it is definitely causing battery drain during partial wake of the Battery History information. The ADW drain may have just been circumstantial but the Handcent issue is easily replicated.
Also, the AT&T ROM is R2CA016 which would seem to be new than the R2B ROMs on other carriers. I think this may be why I get the best battery life using this ROM. I do have it decrypted for easy restore from debranding as well.
naplesbill said:
Otherwise, when you uninstall with Titanium Backup it just reinstalls them automatically.
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Not with the majority of apps it doesn't, I've only come across Creatouch and Serveme that do, everything else can be done with just Titanium.
XperiaX10iUser said:
Not with the majority of apps it doesn't, I've only come across Creatouch and Serveme that do, everything else can be done with just Titanium.
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Except on the AT&T ROM it reinstall them all.
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
naplesbill said:
I'm not sure what to say here. I have tested battery life with and without Handcent SMS and it is definitely causing battery drain during partial wake of the Battery History information. The ADW drain may have just been circumstantial but the Handcent issue is easily replicated.
Also, the AT&T ROM is R2CA016 which would seem to be new than the R2B ROMs on other carriers. I think this may be why I get the best battery life using this ROM. I do have it decrypted for easy restore from debranding as well.
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Hey Bill, I was simply stating that I have not seen any battery drain with ADW installed. With Juice defender, I see over 2.20x+ battery life, which in the real world equates to about 2 days, some times a few hours over and that is a huge improvement from when I initially unlocked the phone.
As far as Handcent is concerned, I do use it, even with the figures above. I have never used anything but handcent, so I'm not sure whether I have seen a decrease, but my x10 has been fine with all the before mentioned applied. As I said earlier, I guess it all depends on your usage and apps and running processes as a whole.. I don't know. haha. Didn't want it to seem as if I were throwing you under the bus or anything, just stating my actual usage experience.
My 2 cents..
Not to hijack the thread but where should I find the original ATT ROM that you guys are talking about?
Alright, I'll try the one-click method then. Do you recommend a root file explorer, naplesbill?
Nimche said:
Not to hijack the thread but where should I find the original ATT ROM that you guys are talking about?
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If I could figure out how to get my original AT&T ROM off of my phone, you could have that!
aln688 said:
Alright, I'll try the one-click method
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It won't work, primarily because of at&ts lockdown policy on their phones...if it does work, LMK and ill give it a go!
Diesel984 said:
It won't work, primarily because of at&ts lockdown policy on their phones...if it does work, LMK and ill give it a go!
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So if that won't work, what will? Are we saying an AT&T phone cannot be rooted?
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So if that won't work, what will? Are we saying an AT&T phone cannot be rooted?
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Install the APP and let us know.
You will have to sideload the one-click app from the PC.
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
Jikenda said:
Hey Bill, I was simply stating that I have not seen any battery drain with ADW installed. With Juice defender, I see over 2.20x+ battery life, which in the real world equates to about 2 days, some times a few hours over and that is a huge improvement from when I initially unlocked the phone.
As far as Handcent is concerned, I do use it, even with the figures above. I have never used anything but handcent, so I'm not sure whether I have seen a decrease, but my x10 has been fine with all the before mentioned applied. As I said earlier, I guess it all depends on your usage and apps and running processes as a whole.. I don't know. haha. Didn't want it to seem as if I were throwing you under the bus or anything, just stating my actual usage experience.
My 2 cents..
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No worries. Didn't mean to make it sound like I was offended. I wasn't offended at all.
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naplesbill said:
You will have to sideload the one-click app from the PC.
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
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AT&T Wont allow Side Loading without root access...I Tried that one earlier this morning, and it didnt work either.
The Root tutorial that has been mentioned seems to be the best method, Although I've gotten up to the Part where it says that under the model number on the phone it should Show X10a (which mine does) Yet, apparently Im missing something because I have no Root access...SO, Hopefully, If this Rapidshare download finishes this year, I'll get back to trying it again...Could just be that I missed something in the steps...I dunno LOL!

Work Phone - Should I Install a Rom?

Well my work just got a bunch of iPhones and the CEO got one of the. He had the Samsung before so I got it as an upgrade over my crackberry.
Now I really want to install a custom rom/kernel on the phone but I am hesitating because its really not my phone and my work owns it.
What do you guys think should I stick with stock or should I root the phone and install a rom?
Stock. There's nothing like explaining to the boss how you f'd up company equipment.
I dont know if one should/should not install custom roms on a work phone, as I don't have one. But I can tell you that if you do decide to root and install one of the custom roms, it's not that hard to unroot and go back to stock later on when you need to return the phone. There are several threads here that will guide you through the process too.
jenisiz said:
Stock. There's nothing like explaining to the boss how you f'd up company equipment.
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I guess your right I just hate being stuck on 2.1 when I know I can have a nice Froyo install. It's just so hard not to do because I have done it with all my other devices.
dsf767 said:
I guess your right I just hate being stuck on 2.1 when I know I can have a nice Froyo install. It's just so hard not to do because I have done it with all my other devices.
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I hear you...but who's to say he won't ask for it out the blue someday?
Idk, at this point, the fascinate is practically impossible to brick. You also say you have experience rooting and customizing other phones, correct? I say go for it. The only reason I could see not to is due to security issues. Work passwords and etc.. I really don't know too much about all of that tho.
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I have a rooted android work phone. All you have to do is read what ppl are saying about the roms and FOLLOW DIRECTIONS and youll be fine.
dsf767 said:
Well my work just got a bunch of iPhones and the CEO got one of the. He had the Samsung before so I got it as an upgrade over my crackberry.
Now I really want to install a custom rom/kernel on the phone but I am hesitating because its really not my phone and my work owns it.
What do you guys think should I stick with stock or should I root the phone and install a rom?
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Used my fascinating voodoo powers
I seriously discourage doing anything to it. It's not yours for one, and (no disrespect to the devs ofcourse, their work is amazing) there really isnt anything spectacular for this phone at the moment due to samsung's failure to provide any source code. To be more specific... our kernels suck.
And oh yea this shouldve been in the Q&A section so be ready for ashasaur to move this thread. (hes really good at doing that )
Depends on your comfort level, and of course, your corporate policies.
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I would say root your phone at the most. It's fairly easy to recover from just rooting, but flashing roms/kernels/modems is much more risky. At least with rooting, you could fairly easily freeze the bloat with TiBu and have a more functional phone. Thawing everything and un-rooting would have you a stock phone back fairly quickly, and you could also still receive OTA updates as well.
I say go for it if anything goes wrong all you have to do is odin back to stock it removes everything its as simple as plugging the phone in load the stock file and click start I've done this countless times
We pick our work cell phones specifically because of the potential customization we can do. I hate being stuck with some company's version of what they think will be useful to me in my job. I can Odin this phone back to stock/factory defaults in less than 5 minutes if need be, so customizing this phone and expanding its abilities, and recovering from those customizations quickly, were what attracted me to it.
Android is Android, whether it's Samsung's stock version or one of the dev's version of it. Your phone is still going to perform the same tasks you need it to for your job. As long as you are both competent with the technologies involved and confident in your ability to restore to stock, I don't see why you should hesitate from exploring the options that are out there, especially when Froyo source drops and we see an explosion of dev-created customizations/enhancements.
Really? If your asking for advice on whether to mess with a business owned phone, it makes me wonder are you the ceo's mail clerk?
SuperClean2.9.1vNitroDark
Personally for a work phone, I'd update it for better usage in my work.
Increasing battery life usage duration.
Less irritating buggy glitches.
Removing the idiotic TW/BING/VZW craps. (too many add-on hacks from google default causing reliability and dependability problems)
Adding Backup and Restore nandroid for possible failures and migrations.
I suggest DJ05 + SuperClean + Blaze v2.3.1R2.

[Q] Interested in the Atrix

My HTC Aria was stolen last night, so I'm in the market for a new phone. I was pretty happy with the Aria, but I'm checking out some other options to see if I want to stick with it or not. I have to stay with AT&T so the Atrix is on my list to check out..
1) Is the Atrix currently rootable with the latest stock AT&T ROM?
2) What are the big issues/annoyances with the Atrix (if any)?
Thanks!
1) Current version (1.83) is rootable via gingerbreak.
2) The only problem people have is that the Atrix has a locked bootloader, therefore getting something like Cyanogen on the Atrix is currently impossible.
I don't think you'll be dissapointed by this phone. It's leaps and bounds better than your Aria was. I came from Captivate and I really love it so far.
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1) Current version (1.83) is rootable via gingerbreak.
2) The only problem people have is that the Atrix has a locked bootloader, therefore getting something like Cyanogen on the Atrix is currently impossible.
I don't think you'll be dissapointed by this phone. It's leaps and bounds better than your Aria was. I came from Captivate and I really love it so far.
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I'm not sure I understand.. The phone is rootable, but you can't use a custom ROM?
So will I be able to get rid of bloatware and be able to install non-market apps? (I could live with bloatware, but there are a few non-market apps that I must have..)
ShinerDraft said:
I'm not sure I understand.. The phone is rootable, but you can't use a custom ROM?
So will I be able to get rid of bloatware and be able to install non-market apps? (I could live with bloatware, but there are a few non-market apps that I must have..)
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The phone is rootable, and you'll be able to install custom ROMs just fine. The custom ROMs will obviously get rid of the bloatware for you if they are worth their salt. Check out this thread for more information to your questions.
I must have misunderstood this:
getting something like Cyanogen on the Atrix is currently impossible.
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I thought that Cyanogen was a custom ROM..
Thanks for the help!
The Atrix is fully rootable, but the bootloader is locked. So you can still sideload apps, run the apps with root access, but you cant make drastic changes to the system like alternate/overclocked kernels. This is why Cynogenmod is not possible on the Atrix at this time. The current roms that are out for the Atrix are mostly just themes.
Do it. It is a great phone and you won't regret it.
CyanogenMod isn't the only custom ROM out there and I believe too many people forget that.
You can root and have custom ROMs like previous posters have said. And coming from an Aria, you will be severely blown away.
My big needs are Swype and EasyTether. Amazon market is also nice, but not a deal-breaker.
So if I understand correctly, Cyanogen is a custom ROM that can't be installed because the Atrix's locked bootloader prevents certain drastic changes.
Other custom ROM's do not make the drastic changes which require bootloader access, so these work fine. Do these other ROM's bypass AT&T's restrictions on apps such as the three noted above? Can these be installed like regular market apps, or do they have to be sideloaded from a PC?
Well if you enable sideloading using gladenable after you root it, you can install all the third party apps you want, without needing to use your computer.
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ShinerDraft said:
My big needs are Swype and EasyTether. Amazon market is also nice, but not a deal-breaker.
So if I understand correctly, Cyanogen is a custom ROM that can't be installed because the Atrix's locked bootloader prevents certain drastic changes.
Other custom ROM's do not make the drastic changes which require bootloader access, so these work fine. Do these other ROM's bypass AT&T's restrictions on apps such as the three noted above? Can these be installed like regular market apps, or do they have to be sideloaded from a PC?
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You shouldnt need to use a custom rom for your needs, but if you wanted to you'd download it on a computer and install it yourself as they wouldnt be in the android market.
All you would have to do is root, then run a script on these forums to enable sideloading and you should be good to go for installing Easytether and Amazon market. The Atrix comes with Swype pre-installed as an alternative keyboard to Motoblur's, so you get that without having to root.
All you need to know is that the phone is fast, has great battery life, and some pseudo custom roms that do everything you are looking for.
Go to the Dev section and read about Gladroot, Gladenable, and Gingerblur then purchase the phone and if you've got more questions, people will be here to help.
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All you need to know is that the phone is fast, has great battery life, and some pseudo custom roms that do everything you are looking for.
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I agree that this is a great phone, and I'm much happier leaving iOS behind, but when people say this phone has great battery life, I feel a bit confused. Does that mean that Android phones in general have worse battery life than the Atrix? I know a few people have said they get 25-30 + hours on the phone, but then again there are several threads on battery life and the general consensus seems that this is a phone that you MUST charge at night, because otherwise the next day it will be dead. 18 hours or so seems like what most people get...
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I agree that this is a great phone, and I'm much happier leaving iOS behind, but when people say this phone has great battery life, I feel a bit confused. Does that mean that Android phones in general have worse battery life than the Atrix? I know a few people have said they get 25-30 + hours on the phone, but then again there are several threads on battery life and the general consensus seems that this is a phone that you MUST charge at night, because otherwise the next day it will be dead. 18 hours or so seems like what most people get...
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I'm not a user, but in my research I found that the Atrix had a higher capacity battery (1930mA hrs) than other phones (Inspire - 1230mA hrs, Captivate - 1500mA hrs).
My experience is that battery life depended on my use more than anything else. If I played music in the car, left my data connection open most of the day, but kept bluetooth and wifi off, I could go about 1.5-2 days between charges. By not playing music and keeping my data off most of the time, I could stretch that to 3-4 days.

[Q] Official Gingerbread ROM?

Hi,
I just bought a vibrant from ebay and waiting anxiously for it to arrive.
Meanwhile I would like to check if the official GB rom is coming soon?
If not, I will like to seek your advice a good ROM that you will recommend newbies to flash.
Thanks!
CyanogenMod 7 is pretty amazing if you are looking for a good gingerbread ROM
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MIUI or CM 7 but it still in Beta some bugs and no GPS
But there a lots of Great 2.2 Froyo Roms for vibrant
Hope that Helps
If you're a true noob who's not flashed a lot before I would suggest any of the 2.2.1 roms. They are all functional and a bit better than 2.2. The only thing you'll lose is wifi calling which is a huge battery drain anyway.
Right now the gingerbread roms don't have working GPS and require a little bit more experience with flashing.
My teammate and I have the Simply Galaxy/Honey series. 2.8 is very fast and stable and its 2.2.1. Team EDT also puts out quality work and you can always count on their roms to be fast and stable as well.
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yah stick with 2.2 or 2.2.1 until u get experienced enough for cm7 or other gb roms! So id listen to explodingboy70
Thanks for all the advice! You are wonderful guys!
One more thing, will Samsung update the vibrant with an official GB rom?
I read that some said it could be done through Kies?
nhc said:
Hi,
I just bought a vibrant from ebay and waiting anxiously for it to arrive.
Meanwhile I would like to check if the official GB rom is coming soon?
If not, I will like to seek your advice a good ROM that you will recommend newbies to flash.
Thanks!
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Simply honey 2.3.3 gb.By far the best gb for the vibrant.flawless, and easy install.
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At this point we don't know when and if we're getting an official gingerbread from T-mobile. Samsung released gingerbread for the international version only - the GT-I9000. It is not completely identical to the Vibrant. It's up to the carriers when and if they release it and put their touches on it. Once Samsung releases some source code for Gingerbread, you'll see a huge jump in gingerbread development and improvements in those roms. Until then, stick to 2.2.1 like the others have said. I stick to team whiskey's roms, and every month or so I flash to a gingerbread rom for like a week to get a feel for it, then go back to 2.2.1 since I can't deal with the bugs in our GB roms for too long at once
Hi,
Finally my phone has arrived. Its already on Official 2.2 (I guessed) with Kernel Version 2.6.32.9 with build number FROYO.UVKA6.
If I want to remain like this for now (awaiting the official GB), what are the improvement that I can or should make to the phone with the current config?
eg. Voodoo , Other kernel, modem, rom?
I would give it a few days before you starting flashing etc etc. Get used to the phone with froyo, learns the ins and out of all the settings and stuff, will come in handy when you are ready to start playing.
If you haven't already, you should read the myriad of info in the vibrant bible, focusing on rooting, flashing and the things needed. I def would get a good handle on understanding programs like titanium, busy box and rom manager as all will eventually need to be used in one way shape or form.
To be honest, after my few days of learning the ropes, you should consider after learning the phones ins and outs, using ODIN to get back to 2.1 that normally comes with the vibrant (I am not 100% sure that all vibrants came with 2.1 stock, not sure if yours is the new model or outgoing model), rooting, installing titanium backup, busybox and rom manager and make a NANDROID backup of a nice clean OS so that should you run into issues flashing, you have an emergency back up to fall back on. I just did this over the past 2 days and it was a great learning experience.
I did my first rom flash today and was pretty cool, not as hard as I thought but really teaches you the ins and outs of all this cool stuff.
The ppl here were great in helping me and answering my questions, truly a great community.
My phone came with 2.1, then upgraded to 2.2, rooted and removed all the bloatware and never backed anything up. I then realized after help here, it was better to go back to 2.1, do all the right steps to root, install the right apps above, then make a nice clean emergency backup. It def will save your ass sooner or later.
With regards to changes, with my phone when it was at 2.2, I did alot to help improve battery life, I use a black wallpaper, I only turn on wifi when needed, I don't enable GPS at all. I set brightest via power widget to lowest unless in bright sun at which time, you can easily brighten it, you can change how quickly the screen goes dark, etc etc. There's alot of things you can do but since you just got the phone, you need to see how you're going to use it, in order to customize it.
Just my 2 from a beginner
Samsung won't say when or if a release of gb will actually come to US variants. I emailed them just the other day.
If you can live without GPS, then go with cyanogen mod
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I have been looking for a while and as usual with Samsung/T-Mobile the official word on GB is very deliberately vague.
I've been trying different ROMs and between my wife's Vibrant and mine, I have tried 5 ROMs so far.
Flashing some of the simpler Froyo ROMs is definitely easier and safer then jumping straight to CM7 or MIUI.
I would go with the earlier advice of getting familiar with your phone first and making sure you are comfortable with rebooting in recovery, wipe cache, etc.
One click root, back-up and re-install some apps so you are comfortable with all that.
Once you feel good, then try the simpler ROMs. TeamWhiskey - Nero is the first one I tried and it was easy to install and quite fast.
After that, went with Bionix.
Now I'm running SimpleHoney and on my wife's phone we are running DarkyRom 9.5.
All of these can be flashed through CWM which makes them simpler and safer.
Hope this helps! Enjoy your phone.
Sav
Thank you all for the replies. The advice and guidance are really much appreciated.
After one whole day fooling around, I finally managed to Root it and to install Simple Galaxy 2.8. I had some problems initially with the new 3e recovery from froyo causing unable to root problem. But I googled it and managed to workaround it.
I will play with the phone for a few more days before I decide if I want to go for the next level, GB
Go check out EDT's Asgard rom. Pretty slick.

[Q] Newbie considering rooting my X2

I'm computer saavy but not Android. If I follow the steps to root....will the phone be totally cool after the process? I'd like to uninstall some Verizon bloat. Are there some must do's after rooting? Is there a noticeable performance gain after eliminating the bloat?
dabombk1 said:
I'm computer saavy but not Android. If I follow the steps to root....will the phone be totally cool after the process? I'd like to uninstall some Verizon bloat. Are there some must do's after rooting? Is there a noticeable performance gain after eliminating the bloat?
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Rooting is a must; and removing the bloat is great, but installing a custom ROM is better performance wise.
Try a couple ROMs and find what one you like best. I use Liberty because I find it to be the fastest.
dabombk1 said:
I'm computer saavy but not Android. If I follow the steps to root....will the phone be totally cool after the process? I'd like to uninstall some Verizon bloat. Are there some must do's after rooting? Is there a noticeable performance gain after eliminating the bloat?
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Sorry bout the thanks..hit the button by accident. As for rooting, if you follow the directions correctly, you SHOULD be ok" but there's always a chance you can have a problem. That's why the directions state at your own risk. And yes you will notice your phone will run considerably faster once you debloat the Verizon crapware. Also installing roms such as nitros eclipse or Kejars31's liberty will also improve the phones performance. Im using liberty & its pretty quick, but both are great. Hope that helps you out
I haven't used Liberty, so I can't vouch for it. But Eclipse is a great rom to try. The devs remove most bloatware, as well as the Blur skin, unless something is necessary in almost all roms. Both of these things, as well as some performance scripts and other built in modifications make a significant difference. Just be sure you have the correct version of android running before flashing, and just to be on the safe side, be sure to download RSD Lite and the correct SBF for 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 whichever you choose.
If you want a ROM, I'd suggest Molten, fastest I've seen!
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I'm currently using Eclipse and the V6 script and let me tell you, it is now the phone it should have been stock. Rooting and flashing ROMs are a must for this device, and as long as you follow directions and are crystal clear on what they tell you to do, there is little to no risk involved. I was in your position when I got my X1, and after I installed the Apex ROM, there was no chance I'd ever use stock again. Good luck my friend!
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Make sure you follow all of the directions and read up anytime you have a question. I have learned much and more from all the people around here and their informative posts. It is intimidating at first to root, install recovery then install a ROM but once you've done it it is really awesome.
I want to try Liberty on my rooted X2 but cannot find it anywhere. I've searched, but may have missed it. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thank you in advance for your help.
Romans8vs1 said:
I want to try Liberty on my rooted X2 but cannot find it anywhere. I've searched, but may have missed it. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thank you in advance for your help.
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Liberty:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/7699-rom-libertyx2-3-rc1-time-for-the-eagle-to-once-again-take-flight/
dabombk1 said:
I'm computer saavy but not Android. If I follow the steps to root....will the phone be totally cool after the process? I'd like to uninstall some Verizon bloat. Are there some must do's after rooting? Is there a noticeable performance gain after eliminating the bloat?
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I am currently stock rooted. And yes removing g bloat will free up some ram and u should notice some difference in performance.
But I recommend freezing before removing since there is a lot of apps that are interdependent on each other so u need to be careful what u remove.
most of the roms on here will remove the junk for u anyways.
Just make a nandroid of stock after u root and install our bootstrap so u can always go back to stock if u would like or need to.
If u r just looking to remove apps like kindle amazon blockbuster etc.. u will be fine. Feel free to ask any questions (u can also private message me if ud like) and ill do my best to help ya out that's what this forum is for
Thank you!
And don't worry about the 2.3.4 but anymore, Nitro has fixed it and it should be gone with his next release!
Sent from my DROID X2 using XDA App
Besides for the debloating/freezing and flashing roms that other posters have mentioned, one of the best things I like about rooting is being able to use an app titled Keyboard Manager. It is only available to root users, but it allows you to set keyboards based on orientation. For example, I use swype in portrait and blur keyboard in landscape.
Its the little things...
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GibsA750 said:
Its the little things...
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Its not like you unlock a world of free apps and instantly become a Android Guru, you just get those few things that you wanted before and always said "I really wish I could change that" well its making open source even more open.
Keep reading the xda forums and you will learn alot. I started by using the "one click root," freezing bloat wear, and then started experimenting with Roms to squeeze all the free memory and performance I can out of my x2. Like you I am a computer tech head, but didn't know much about android. The knowledge comes fast though.
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GibsA750 said:
Besides for the debloating/freezing and flashing roms that other posters have mentioned, one of the best things I like about rooting is being able to use an app titled Keyboard Manager. It is only available to root users, but it allows you to set keyboards based on orientation. For example, I use swype in portrait and blur keyboard in landscape.
Its the little things...
Sent from my DROID X2 using XDA App
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that's a tasty little tidbit there, I like swipe but never turned it on because I really only liked it in portrait, hence, I really now do all my typing in landscape.
definitely root your phone. and definitely do what some of the others stated like getting a sbf and using rsd lite. im running eclipse if it means anything. havent tried liberty yet. didnt like alien or atrix port so much.
dabombk1 said:
I'm computer saavy but not Android. If I follow the steps to root....will the phone be totally cool after the process? I'd like to uninstall some Verizon bloat. Are there some must do's after rooting? Is there a noticeable performance gain after eliminating the bloat?
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YES! Rooting is the way to go. I just installed CM7 and absolutely love it. Phone works great - no Verizon bloat and battery life seems good. Phone is extremely fast and stable. Go to the "CM7" posts to learn how to update your phone to CM7. Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442803
addisoj said:
YES! Rooting is the way to go. I just installed CM7 and absolutely love it. Phone works great - no Verizon bloat and battery life seems good. Phone is extremely fast and stable. Go to the "CM7" posts to learn how to update your phone to CM7. Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442803
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I second that statement. I've tried Liberty and Eclipse, and no disrespect to those developers at all, but AOSP is the way to go and CM7 is the first AOSP ROM available for the DX2. I was afraid I made the wrong choice for a phone because I root and flash ROMs on my phones, but CM7 on the DX2 has made me feel much better. Try it! You'll love it!
Where did the .sbf go?
I've found several dead links for the "VRZ_MB870_4.5.1A-DTN-117-15_1FF_01.sbf.gz
"
Someone at androidforums said they found a working one at droidx forums, but I haven't found it my self. I asked if he would post a link. Guess we'll see.
Edit: I found what I was looking for. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317707

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