So far I am liking my gtablet, however getting videos to play on it seems to be a hassle. I do know that anything encoded in the high profile will not play, but it seems that a lot of trailers or videos that I try to play on the gtablet dont work. I am a bit put off by this since I wanted to use this as a portable video player for trips. I have a lot of videos that are 720p that are encoded into the high profile. I was wondering what the best way is to convert these videos to work on the gtablet. I have seen some converting software such as handbrake, but have no idea on the optimal settings. I want to preserve the quality as much as possible.
Handbrake. I have no issue with high profile.
x2 on Handbrake. I personally use an altered iPad profile and alter it to use MP4 (h263) which works just great on our device. 4000 kbps and you'll have a 2 hour movie at under the magical 4GB.
vsc said:
Handbrake. I have no issue with high profile.
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I have heard that 720p high profile might work, but that 1080p hp definitely does not work. (Tegra 2 limitation). I have never gotten even 720p hp to work - can you give out your settings and confirm that the video is actually hp in something like mediainfo? Thanks!
Freemake Video Converter
I am using freemake video converter and is pretty nice and easy to use. (http://www.freemake.com)
roebeet said:
x2 on Handbrake. I personally use an altered iPad profile and alter it to use MP4 (h263) which works just great on our device. 4000 kbps and you'll have a 2 hour movie at under the magical 4GB.
Roebeet, can you tell me how you altered your iPad profile in handbrake? I did not see an option for h263, only h264 codec and ffmpeg are showing up.
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Maximus1000 said:
So far I am liking my gtablet, however getting videos to play on it seems to be a hassle. I do know that anything encoded in the high profile will not play, but it seems that a lot of trailers or videos that I try to play on the gtablet dont work. I am a bit put off by this since I wanted to use this as a portable video player for trips. I have a lot of videos that are 720p that are encoded into the high profile. I was wondering what the best way is to convert these videos to work on the gtablet. I have seen some converting software such as handbrake, but have no idea on the optimal settings. I want to preserve the quality as much as possible.
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I have been asking this question for days.
1) Did not like handbrake, to me it was unintuitive. I like plug and play.
2) I ended up dropping $35 on cucusoft dvd ripper ultimate
http://www.cucusoft.com/ultimate-dvd-video-converter-suite.aspx#ultimate-dvd-converter
3) you can download it free and try it out for youself (adds a watermark until you purchase).
4) The ipad pre-setting seemed all wrong. None of the resolutions seemed to match the gtab and the gtab has a stronger profile. Plus the h.264 profile was laggy and the mp4 profile was too low a resolution
5) 4 Gigs seems like way too much real-estate for a Gtabs memory capacity.
6) I went into the standard mp4 profile
7) 720x480 (native resolution for a 1 to 1 copy of the dvd)
8) Kept screen aspect ration (nice letter box look).
9)1350-1400 bits is nice and smooth (anything above 1500 bits and it gets laggy, it seemed to me the gtab couldnt handle the processing above 1500bits (only noticeable in action scenes with rapid camera motion, Robin hood with all the action-fails above 1500bits, The changeling with its slower pace was actually ok up to 2,000bits) for fun i tried 800bits...way too fuzzy and visibly "jerky" (noticeable with slow camera pans-opening graduation scene of "i love you beth cooper" and you could see the jerking as the camera slowly panned around the graduation ceremony))
10) Video ouput of 10-15 (13 is the preset) (low profile, you won't notice on the gtab and it saves a bit of mgs).
Average size of a movie is 1g to 1.5gs. (Robin hood is a 2 hour 20min movie it takes 1.47g at the 2hr 15 min where i cut it off during credits with a video ouput setting of 10/1350bits/720x450).
Frame rate is smooth
Once you set it up..ripping is basically plug and play.
Hook up the usb, put it in mass storage mode, on your pc select to open it to view files. Create a file called "movies" Drag and drop. unmount the storage and you are done.
i downloaded real player from the market, it seems to handle it a bit better than the stock video player (or maybe its just me).
I am by no means an expert but when i asked, i got almost NO answers...so this is what i have come up with so far.
Vegan 5.1
Screen shot.
Bear in mine this was taken with a crappy iphone 3gs camera. Actual image looks better.
One more screen for good measure.
Handbrake 0.95 Profile
I've been messing around with Handbrake, converting a ton of movies (all 4-6GB 720p MP4s/MKVs). Like roebeet, this was modified from the iPad profile in Handbrake 0.95 (the very latest version, released a few days ago).
After messing with all sorts of resolutions, qualities, etc., I came up with a profile that works very well for me and reduces most 2-hour movies down to 1 to 1.5GB and look pretty darn good on the GTablet, and in testing, all have played flawlessly in Act1 Video Player (Rockplayer seemed to play them fine too).
You should be able to import the settings I'm using if you're using Handbrake .95 (older versions won't work, I hear).
Basically, it:
Resizes the videos down to 1024 x XXX (keeping aspect ratio)
Adds weak Denoising (film grain GREATLY increases file size, if you like film grain and don't mind bigger filesizes, turn this off, or bump it to Medium for smaller sizes/more softening)
Changes video codec to MPEG-4 (FFmpeg)
Uses a Constant Quality/Quantization Parameter (QP) of 6. Anything higher tended to get ugly. For movies I really care about, I bounced this to 4 for some added quality. 6 will give you some slight banding/blocking in gradient areas and minor compression artifacts in hard contrast areas but I can hardly see it on the GTablet screen (though it's pretty clear on my 32" monitor, of course).
Didn't touch the audio, lower the sample rate and mix it down to Stereo to save a tad more space (not much).
That's really about it. Render time on my Core i7 w/8GB is somewhere in the neighborhood of 1-2 hours for a 2-3 hour movie. I queue a bunch up and start it right before bed, and it'll chew through 5-6 by morning.
Why Constant Quality/QP instead of bitrate? It's more adaptive, putting the higher bitrates in the scenes that need higher bitrates to maintain quality/reduce artifacts while reducing bitrates in scenes that don't need it as much. It's like CBR vs VBR in MP3s. Because of this some movies -will- be larger. Avatar, for example, is still well over 4GB (no denoising, QP 4) whereas Scott Pilgrim is 1.5GB with the same settings (though it is about 25% shorter).
You'll want to tweak these settings to your tastes, but I was very pleased with this setup and I can get 10+ movies on a 16GB card, which is plenty.
If you're really most concerned with getting lots of movies of acceptable quality, raise the QP to 8-10 (anything higher was plain awful IMO), reduce audio bitrate & mixdown to stereo, reduce resolution to 848 x XXX, bump denoising to Medium/High. USE THE PREVIEW BUTTON at the top. It will give you an XX second rendering of the settings you've selected. This will save you a tremendous amount of time screwing stuff up.
I attached a file, just remove the .txt so the extension is .plist, open Handbrake, click Presets > Import and select the file.
Then select the Preset, select your source, select Destination and Start or Add to Queue. Now that I have my settings decided, I can queue up a dozen movies in a few minutes. Select source, confirm destination, click Add to Queue, repeat until movies are all queued.
Alternately you can copy the following text into a blank text file and rename the extension .plist
Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist>
<array>
<dict>
<key>AudioList</key>
<array>
<dict>
<key>AudioBitrate</key>
<string>160</string>
<key>AudioEncoder</key>
<string>AAC (faac)</string>
<key>AudioMixdown</key>
<string>Stereo</string>
<key>AudioSamplerate</key>
<string>Auto</string>
<key>AudioTrack</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>AudioTrackDRCSlider</key>
<real>0.0</real>
<key>AudioTrackDescription</key>
<string>Unknown</string>
</dict>
</array>
<key>ChapterMarkers</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>Default</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>FileFormat</key>
<string>MP4 file</string>
<key>Folder</key>
<false />
<key>Mp4HttpOptimize</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>Mp4LargeFile</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>Mp4iPodCompatible</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureAutoCrop</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>PictureBottomCrop</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureDeblock</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureDecomb</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureDecombCustom</key>
<string />
<key>PictureDecombDeinterlace</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>PictureDeinterlace</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureDeinterlaceCustom</key>
<string />
<key>PictureDenoise</key>
<integer>3</integer>
<key>PictureDenoiseCustom</key>
<string />
<key>PictureDetelecine</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureDetelecineCustom</key>
<string />
<key>PictureHeight</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureKeepRatio</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureLeftCrop</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureModulus</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PicturePAR</key>
<integer>2</integer>
<key>PictureRightCrop</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureTopCrop</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureWidth</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PresetBuildNumber</key>
<string>2011010300</string>
<key>PresetDescription</key>
<string>No Description</string>
<key>PresetName</key>
<string>GTablet</string>
<key>Type</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>UsesMaxPictureSettings</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>UsesPictureFilters</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>UsesPictureSettings</key>
<integer>2</integer>
<key>VideoAvgBitrate</key>
<string />
<key>VideoEncoder</key>
<string>MPEG-4 (FFmpeg)</string>
<key>VideoFramerate</key>
<string>Same as source</string>
<key>VideFrameratePFR</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>VideoGrayScale</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>VideoQualitySlider</key>
<real>6</real>
<key>VideoQualityType</key>
<integer>2</integer>
<key>VideoTargetSize</key>
<string />
<key>VideoTurboTwoPass</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>VideoTwoPass</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>x264Option</key>
<string />
</dict>
</array>
</plist>
How do you que up 5 or 6 at once unless your computer has 5 or 6 DVD drives?
Do you have the FULL versions already ripped to your PC hard drive and then just que up the conversion?
For comparisons sake, My I7 860 overclocked to 3533G with an turbo mode enabled to 4.2gigs (runs around 3.6 to 3.8G while encoding) and 8g of ram pulls one off a DVD in about 30-45 minutes at my settings, although it sounds like that dynamic quality setting may take longer to encoded over picking a static bit-rate.
I am impressed with that set up...going to go through my settings later to see if there is a setting for that method of conversion......
I use head phones so i chose CD quality audio.
reynwrap582 said:
I've been messing around with Handbrake, converting a ton of movies (all 4-6GB 720p MP4s/MKVs). Like roebeet, this was modified from the iPad profile in Handbrake 0.95 (the very latest version, released a few days ago).
After messing with all sorts of resolutions, qualities, etc., I came up with a profile that works very well for me and reduces most 2-hour movies down to 1 to 1.5GB and look pretty darn good on the GTablet, and in testing, all have played flawlessly in Act1 Video Player (Rockplayer seemed to play them fine too).
You should be able to import the settings I'm using if you're using Handbrake .95 (older versions won't work, I hear).
Basically, it:
Resizes the videos down to 1024 x XXX (keeping aspect ratio)
Adds weak Denoising (film grain GREATLY increases file size, if you like film grain and don't mind bigger filesizes, turn this off, or bump it to Medium for smaller sizes/more softening)
Changes video codec to MPEG-4 (FFmpeg)
Uses a Constant Quality/Quantization Parameter (QP) of 6. Anything higher tended to get ugly. For movies I really care about, I bounced this to 4 for some added quality. 6 will give you some slight banding/blocking in gradient areas and minor compression artifacts in hard contrast areas but I can hardly see it on the GTablet screen (though it's pretty clear on my 32" monitor, of course).
Didn't touch the audio, lower the sample rate and mix it down to Stereo to save a tad more space (not much).
That's really about it. Render time on my Core i7 w/8GB is somewhere in the neighborhood of 1-2 hours for a 2-3 hour movie. I queue a bunch up and start it right before bed, and it'll chew through 5-6 by morning.
Why Constant Quality/QP instead of bitrate? It's more adaptive, putting the higher bitrates in the scenes that need higher bitrates to maintain quality/reduce artifacts while reducing bitrates in scenes that don't need it as much. It's like CBR vs VBR in MP3s. Because of this some movies -will- be larger. Avatar, for example, is still well over 4GB (no denoising, QP 4) whereas Scott Pilgrim is 1.5GB with the same settings (though it is about 25% shorter).
You'll want to tweak these settings to your tastes, but I was very pleased with this setup and I can get 10+ movies on a 16GB card, which is plenty.
If you're really most concerned with getting lots of movies of acceptable quality, raise the QP to 8-10 (anything higher was plain awful IMO), reduce audio bitrate & mixdown to stereo, reduce resolution to 848 x XXX, bump denoising to Medium/High. USE THE PREVIEW BUTTON at the top. It will give you an XX second rendering of the settings you've selected. This will save you a tremendous amount of time screwing stuff up.
I attached a file, just remove the .txt so the extension is .plist, open Handbrake, click Presets > Import and select the file.
Then select the Preset, select your source, select Destination and Start or Add to Queue. Now that I have my settings decided, I can queue up a dozen movies in a few minutes. Select source, confirm destination, click Add to Queue, repeat until movies are all queued.
Alternately you can copy the following text into a blank text file and rename the extension .plist
Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist>
<array>
<dict>
<key>AudioList</key>
<array>
<dict>
<key>AudioBitrate</key>
<string>160</string>
<key>AudioEncoder</key>
<string>AAC (faac)</string>
<key>AudioMixdown</key>
<string>Stereo</string>
<key>AudioSamplerate</key>
<string>Auto</string>
<key>AudioTrack</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>AudioTrackDRCSlider</key>
<real>0.0</real>
<key>AudioTrackDescription</key>
<string>Unknown</string>
</dict>
</array>
<key>ChapterMarkers</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>Default</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>FileFormat</key>
<string>MP4 file</string>
<key>Folder</key>
<false />
<key>Mp4HttpOptimize</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>Mp4LargeFile</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>Mp4iPodCompatible</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureAutoCrop</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>PictureBottomCrop</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureDeblock</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureDecomb</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureDecombCustom</key>
<string />
<key>PictureDecombDeinterlace</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>PictureDeinterlace</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureDeinterlaceCustom</key>
<string />
<key>PictureDenoise</key>
<integer>3</integer>
<key>PictureDenoiseCustom</key>
<string />
<key>PictureDetelecine</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureDetelecineCustom</key>
<string />
<key>PictureHeight</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureKeepRatio</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureLeftCrop</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureModulus</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PicturePAR</key>
<integer>2</integer>
<key>PictureRightCrop</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureTopCrop</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureWidth</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PresetBuildNumber</key>
<string>2011010300</string>
<key>PresetDescription</key>
<string>No Description</string>
<key>PresetName</key>
<string>GTablet</string>
<key>Type</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>UsesMaxPictureSettings</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>UsesPictureFilters</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>UsesPictureSettings</key>
<integer>2</integer>
<key>VideoAvgBitrate</key>
<string />
<key>VideoEncoder</key>
<string>MPEG-4 (FFmpeg)</string>
<key>VideoFramerate</key>
<string>Same as source</string>
<key>VideFrameratePFR</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>VideoGrayScale</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>VideoQualitySlider</key>
<real>6</real>
<key>VideoQualityType</key>
<integer>2</integer>
<key>VideoTargetSize</key>
<string />
<key>VideoTurboTwoPass</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>VideoTwoPass</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>x264Option</key>
<string />
</dict>
</array>
</plist>
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Using this to convert now, will report with my results later
Allenfx said:
How do you que up 5 or 6 at once unless your computer has 5 or 6 DVD drives?
Do you have the FULL versions already ripped to your PC hard drive and then just que up the conversion?
For comparisons sake, My I7 860 overclocked to 3533G with an turbo mode enabled to 4.2gigs (runs around 3.6 to 3.8G while encoding) and 8g of ram pulls one off a DVD in about 30-45 minutes at my settings, although it sounds like that dynamic quality setting may take longer to encoded over picking a static bit-rate.
I am impressed with that set up...going to go through my settings later to see if there is a setting for that method of conversion......
I use head phones so i chose CD quality audio.
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He is not ripping DVD's, i would assume, rather using (legally attained) rips to convert them for viewing on his tablet
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Mine are legally obtained to.
Net flix, i rent them convert them watch them once and delete them.
I pay to watch them once, i watch them once.
I just wanted to take them with me on the gtab so that i could have them on flights at hotels etc.
Do you like irony?
Netflix is available on the iphone, and win devices but not on android because they were concerned about piracy.
If they just had a dammed netflix app for droid devices...i wouldn't have to "rip" them to be able to watch them, i would just use the app.
In their vigiliance to avoid pirating..they forced me to "pirate" (not really as i only watch them once and delete, dont make copies etc) just to be able to WATCH THEM.
In their attempt to prevent something..they FORCED me to do that very thing just to obtain functionality = fail on their part.
Just provide the dammed app already netflix!!
(Regarding the dynamic quality. I will pass on that one as i don't want the files getting back up to 4g for use on a tiny 10inch screen..(seems like a waste). The standard ipad settings are some where around 1333 bit rate constant and i am running higher than that. The net flix app comes in even lower i think)
I am going to keep testing there are about 15 different settings i haven't even touched.
I do'nt understand why its laggy with the h.264 @1600bits or above bits if Roebeet does it in h.263 at 4,000bits on the modified ipad profile. I am a newb so who knows.
Andrewb19 said:
He is not ripping DVD's, i would assume, rather using (legally attained) rips to convert them for viewing on his tablet
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I guess I should have specified, but a lot of people were talking about 1080p/720p content in other threads so I just assumed we were dealing with similar circumstances (or that they attained said videos through...questionable means?)
Anyway, my DVD collection was ripped ages ago to Xvid at 1.5GB a piece (I use XBMC for my movie collection and the discs are in storage), and those all run flawlessly on the GTab. I'll do something with them eventually (it's nice to be able to lend a DVD to a friend but still have the movie on XBMC). When I switched over to BluRay I built a healthy collection and ripped them all to 4-6GB 720p MP4s (later MKVs) for my media center, though the discs stay out on the shelf (but never come out of their cases, just there for show) and I have them around if I want to watch something in its original quality from the BRD. This latest conversion is specifically for my GTablet (though I imagine it would work fine for most mid-powered mobile devices. My Captivate plays them beautifully too).
Allenfx said:
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(Regarding the dynamic quality. I will pass on that one as i don't want the files getting back up to 4g for use on a tiny 10inch screen..(seems like a waste). The standard ipad settings are some where around 1333 bit rate constant and i am running higher than that. The net flix app comes in even lower i think)
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Avatar was the only movie out of a couple dozen to reach 4GB, and that was because I set the QP at 4 -and- turned off denoising (though there wasn't film grain in the typical sense, there is a lot of fine/sharp detail, foliage and action in the film that demands higher bitrates.
Of the 27 other movies I've encoded with the profile I posted:
13 are under 1GB
10 are 1 to 1.5GB
4 are 1.5 to 2GB (2 of those used QP4 instead of QP6)
0 are over 2GB
I'll reencode Avatar with the same profile I posted and report the filesize and comment on visual quality.
The problem I've had with using defined bitrates is that I've had to "guess" what's appropriate for each movie to get the best compression to quality ratio, and I usually either overestimated and had wastefully large file sizes, or underestimated and had high-action scenes turn into blocky messes. I haven't had that problem with constant quality settings, and I haven't seen a significant increase in encoding time, and it's worth whatever little extra time it may take if it can keep me from having to reencode a movie.
UPDATE: At the default profile settings, Avatar came out to about 3GB on the nose, and still looks pretty darn great on the GTab. Filesizes that large are still a definite exception.
reynwrap582 said:
Avatar was the only movie out of a couple dozen to reach 4GB, and that was because I set the QP at 4 -and- turned off denoising (though there wasn't film grain in the typical sense, there is a lot of fine/sharp detail, foliage and action in the film that demands higher bitrates.
Of the 27 other movies I've encoded with the profile I posted:
13 are under 1GB
10 are 1 to 1.5GB
4 are 1.5 to 2GB (2 of those used QP4 instead of QP6)
0 are over 2GB
I'll reencode Avatar with the same profile I posted and report the filesize and comment on visual quality.
The problem I've had with using defined bitrates is that I've had to "guess" what's appropriate for each movie to get the best compression to quality ratio, and I usually either overestimated and had wastefully large file sizes, or underestimated and had high-action scenes turn into blocky messes. I haven't had that problem with constant quality settings, and I haven't seen a significant increase in encoding time, and it's worth whatever little extra time it may take if it can keep me from having to reencode a movie.
UPDATE: At the default profile settings, Avatar came out to about 3GB on the nose, and still looks pretty darn great on the GTab. Filesizes that large are still a definite exception.
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I think i found the setting you are referring to in my software. It uses a different scale (i assume) (1 is highest and 31 is lowest). Its called "quality scale".
Does that sound about right?
I wonder what i would get if i set it to 4 also...trying now..
Edit: Encoded using the highest setting possible (which turned out to be "level 2" and got Robin Hood @3.7gbs. I think it raises the quality but its not dynamic like yours..(fixed settings)..
Edit: 2 It wont even play at that level.... wont load
hey guys,
sorry to sound really new to this and I'm sure its all easily explained but I have one small query.
720P is essentially 1280x720 res
and Gtab has a 1080x600 screen
Doesnt this mean that GTab is downscaling your videos to a res suitable for 1080x600?
If so then why rip them to 720P when you could save extra space by ripping them to a lower res?
Otherwise has anyone compared a rip at effectively 1066x600 vs 1280x720 and can see a clear difference?
Thanks!
~BAM~ said:
hey guys,
sorry to sound really new to this and I'm sure its all easily explained but I have one small query.
720P is essentially 1280x720 res
and Gtab has a 1080x600 screen
Doesnt this mean that GTab is downscaling your videos to a res suitable for 1080x600?
If so then why rip them to 720P when you could save extra space by ripping them to a lower res?
Otherwise has anyone compared a rip at effectively 1066x600 vs 1280x720 and can see a clear difference?
Thanks!
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Good Question, If the ripped video is only to be viewed on G-Tab, then yes what you thinking is right. But most people rip once and view it on different medias like TV, computer, tablet etc, and they don't need to re-encode it for different devices.
If someone has handful of video then they can encode it for different medias, but if you have a huge collection then you don;t want to encode for each device.
palagai said:
Good Question, If the ripped video is only to be viewed on G-Tab, then yes what you thinking is right. But most people rip once and view it on different medias like TV, computer, tablet etc, and they don't need to re-encode it for different devices.
If someone has handful of video then they can encode it for different medias, but if you have a huge collection then you don;t want to encode for each device.
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Well in my case i am RIPPING THEM to watch once on the Gtab and then delete.... (basically taking my netflix CDs with me on the gtab to watch on air planes, car rides, etc.)
So what settings do you recommend in that situation?
Allenfx said:
Well in my case i am RIPPING THEM to watch once on the Gtab and then delete.... (basically taking my netflix CDs with me on the gtab to watch on air planes, car rides, etc.)
So what settings do you recommend in that situation?
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video of 720x304 with 1200 bitrate and audio bit rate 96K. for the mp4 profile.
and then you can increase/decrease depending on your liking.
Big Thanks!!
I just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to post your settings. I had been having no luck at all with Handbrake and was about to give up. I imported your settings and it all finally worked for me! Now we have plenty of movies loaded onto a 16 gig microsd card for our upcoming vacation to Thailand.
Thanks! You Rock!
reynwrap582 said:
I've been messing around with Handbrake, converting a ton of movies (all 4-6GB 720p MP4s/MKVs). Like roebeet, this was modified from the iPad profile in Handbrake 0.95 (the very latest version, released a few days ago).
After messing with all sorts of resolutions, qualities, etc., I came up with a profile that works very well for me and reduces most 2-hour movies down to 1 to 1.5GB and look pretty darn good on the GTablet, and in testing, all have played flawlessly in Act1 Video Player (Rockplayer seemed to play them fine too).
You should be able to import the settings I'm using if you're using Handbrake .95 (older versions won't work, I hear).
Basically, it:
Resizes the videos down to 1024 x XXX (keeping aspect ratio)
Adds weak Denoising (film grain GREATLY increases file size, if you like film grain and don't mind bigger filesizes, turn this off, or bump it to Medium for smaller sizes/more softening)
Changes video codec to MPEG-4 (FFmpeg)
Uses a Constant Quality/Quantization Parameter (QP) of 6. Anything higher tended to get ugly. For movies I really care about, I bounced this to 4 for some added quality. 6 will give you some slight banding/blocking in gradient areas and minor compression artifacts in hard contrast areas but I can hardly see it on the GTablet screen (though it's pretty clear on my 32" monitor, of course).
Didn't touch the audio, lower the sample rate and mix it down to Stereo to save a tad more space (not much).
That's really about it. Render time on my Core i7 w/8GB is somewhere in the neighborhood of 1-2 hours for a 2-3 hour movie. I queue a bunch up and start it right before bed, and it'll chew through 5-6 by morning.
Why Constant Quality/QP instead of bitrate? It's more adaptive, putting the higher bitrates in the scenes that need higher bitrates to maintain quality/reduce artifacts while reducing bitrates in scenes that don't need it as much. It's like CBR vs VBR in MP3s. Because of this some movies -will- be larger. Avatar, for example, is still well over 4GB (no denoising, QP 4) whereas Scott Pilgrim is 1.5GB with the same settings (though it is about 25% shorter).
You'll want to tweak these settings to your tastes, but I was very pleased with this setup and I can get 10+ movies on a 16GB card, which is plenty.
If you're really most concerned with getting lots of movies of acceptable quality, raise the QP to 8-10 (anything higher was plain awful IMO), reduce audio bitrate & mixdown to stereo, reduce resolution to 848 x XXX, bump denoising to Medium/High. USE THE PREVIEW BUTTON at the top. It will give you an XX second rendering of the settings you've selected. This will save you a tremendous amount of time screwing stuff up.
I attached a file, just remove the .txt so the extension is .plist, open Handbrake, click Presets > Import and select the file.
Then select the Preset, select your source, select Destination and Start or Add to Queue. Now that I have my settings decided, I can queue up a dozen movies in a few minutes. Select source, confirm destination, click Add to Queue, repeat until movies are all queued.
Alternately you can copy the following text into a blank text file and rename the extension .plist
Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist>
<array>
<dict>
<key>AudioList</key>
<array>
<dict>
<key>AudioBitrate</key>
<string>160</string>
<key>AudioEncoder</key>
<string>AAC (faac)</string>
<key>AudioMixdown</key>
<string>Stereo</string>
<key>AudioSamplerate</key>
<string>Auto</string>
<key>AudioTrack</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>AudioTrackDRCSlider</key>
<real>0.0</real>
<key>AudioTrackDescription</key>
<string>Unknown</string>
</dict>
</array>
<key>ChapterMarkers</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>Default</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>FileFormat</key>
<string>MP4 file</string>
<key>Folder</key>
<false />
<key>Mp4HttpOptimize</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>Mp4LargeFile</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>Mp4iPodCompatible</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureAutoCrop</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>PictureBottomCrop</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureDeblock</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureDecomb</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureDecombCustom</key>
<string />
<key>PictureDecombDeinterlace</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>PictureDeinterlace</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureDeinterlaceCustom</key>
<string />
<key>PictureDenoise</key>
<integer>3</integer>
<key>PictureDenoiseCustom</key>
<string />
<key>PictureDetelecine</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureDetelecineCustom</key>
<string />
<key>PictureHeight</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureKeepRatio</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureLeftCrop</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureModulus</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PicturePAR</key>
<integer>2</integer>
<key>PictureRightCrop</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureTopCrop</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PictureWidth</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>PresetBuildNumber</key>
<string>2011010300</string>
<key>PresetDescription</key>
<string>No Description</string>
<key>PresetName</key>
<string>GTablet</string>
<key>Type</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>UsesMaxPictureSettings</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>UsesPictureFilters</key>
<integer>1</integer>
<key>UsesPictureSettings</key>
<integer>2</integer>
<key>VideoAvgBitrate</key>
<string />
<key>VideoEncoder</key>
<string>MPEG-4 (FFmpeg)</string>
<key>VideoFramerate</key>
<string>Same as source</string>
<key>VideFrameratePFR</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>VideoGrayScale</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>VideoQualitySlider</key>
<real>6</real>
<key>VideoQualityType</key>
<integer>2</integer>
<key>VideoTargetSize</key>
<string />
<key>VideoTurboTwoPass</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>VideoTwoPass</key>
<integer>0</integer>
<key>x264Option</key>
<string />
</dict>
</array>
</plist>
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Good morring
Today i am trying to make my own ringtones in wav format,i am using cool edit pro 2.0 and all is going well HOWEVER when i save the cropped mp3 files as wav a 10 second clip is saving at around 2mb. Can i make the final wav smaller somehow?????
Hi there
WAV is the standard format for PC Audio (as AVI is for video) -and can come in a variety of bit rates but 16 Bit/ 44.1 Khz is CD quality, unfortunately the high bit rate means that you eat up a lot of storage (there is a calculation but I can't remember it - something like 10Mb a minute ??)
To get the file size smaller you need to lower the sample rate to something like 8 bit/22Khz.
But I'm guessing that the ring tone is a piece of music or something, due to the file size, and there's no way you'll be able to reduce the size without suffering degradation. For things like "rings" and "bleeps" you wouldn't have to worry...
Basically the very thing that enables you to compress a WAV and make it still sound good is MP3 compression, but we aren't allowed to use them............... :x
Surely someone could hack it tho? It occurs to me that a more 'microsoft' solution would be to support WMA for ringtones..
What actually plays them back? If only it were Mediaplayer eh?
So are you saying there is NO way to do what im asking????
like spence posted then you can make your wav files smaller by lowering the samplerate and the bit resolution
samplerate deside what the higest frequence being played is
because of nyquist rule you have to sample with 2 times the higest frequence you will be playign so
if you lower the frequense to 22Khz then 11Khz will be the higest frequence it will play
when it's a ring tone to a phone which speaker is not really THX then 11Khz is ok
the bit from 8 to 16 deside how big a difference there is between amplitude og the samples
i sugest that you mess around with the file lowering sample rate and or the bit resolution and compare them by quality and size
hello...
what piece of software would you suggest doing this with?
is there away to make the .wav file (ringtone) louder without making the volume louder on the phone?
thanks
jay
cooledit
or
sound forge
are good programs too mess around with sound (I'm poet and i dident even know it )
and yes you can raise the volume in the file
using cool edit pro i have done what you suggested with regard to quality however the end result (the size of the wav) does not change
try changeing the sample from stereo to mono as well, I have seen massive reductions when useing just mono which is perfectly good for a ringtone, I have a 22 second wav with 16000 Mono 16bit and it sounds fine and is only 692 Kb
you may be missing something I think - these actions should make the file smaller, they have to.. You need to aim for "convert sample rate" which will be in Edit somewhere..
Failing that send me the wav file and I'll sort it for you
I use Wavelab personally - I'm into audio processing/editing big style..
Yeah think i must but in saying that using sound forge 6 seems to have helped as i now have a 28second cip at just 1.1 meg (where as before it was 5.5meg) but im sure there is a way to SQUEEZ it a little smaller
make sure it's
8bit
and make sure it's 11Khz (you could try to see how it sounds if you make it lower ?)
make sure it's mono as in joinet stereo
why such a long clip anyway ?
i think it can repeat somehow like if you have a clip where you yell
"the phones ringing einstein" should it not play that over and over again ?
posted this before, but here goes again... two really nice free tools for doing all the audio you ever want:
Audacity - you can apply filters, reducing noise, increasing decreasing bass or amplification
www.dbpoweramp.com - great tool, allows you to change almost any audio format to any audio format. Plus allows you to save wav files in any bit rate/frequency, thereby reducing size (quality) to suit your need.
hope this helps.
Even easier - use Winamp. It has a diskwriter plugin (in the output preferences) which can be configured to push out good quality SMALL audio. I've manged to get a whole song as a ringtone in just 2.5mb
The following instructions will enable you to record videos in fullscreen ( 800x480 )
1. Pull the file from the phone
adb pull /system/etc/media_profiles.xml
2. Make a copy of "media_profiles.xml" ( in case you want to restore it )
3. edit "media_profiles.xml" and change the following line from
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<EncoderProfile quality="high" fileFormat="mp4" duration="60">
<Video codec="h264"
bitRate="3000000"
width="720" <---- this value
height="480"
frameRate="24" />
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to
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<EncoderProfile quality="high" fileFormat="mp4" duration="60">
<Video codec="h264"
bitRate="3000000"
width="800"
height="480"
frameRate="24" />
-----
4. Save the changes and reupload the file
adb push media_profiles.xml /system/etc/
5. Reboot the phone
adb shell reboot
** Upon request, I've uploaded the file "media_profiles.xml.zip". Unzip and skip to step 4.
Regards,
Kenny N
Thanks for the info. Could u maybe just upload an already edited version off the xml to maybe save some of us some time? Would appreciate it
agriff said:
Thanks for the info. Could u maybe just upload an already edited version off the xml to maybe save some of us some time? Would appreciate it
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done and done - have fun
I guess they used the standard 3:2 aspect ratio that is used by DVD movies to keep things standardized. The 800x480 resolution should be better though if you are just watching the movies on your phone and computer.
Yes, they use the standard 3:2 aspect ratio. However, not sure about the others, I use the phone for playbacks
Is it possible to make the same with foto!!! to change resolution for widescreen fotos on Froyo, to display it on widescreen TV and laptop.....
Hey vnbuddy, I haven't tried to do your mod yet but there's something I think you should be aware of. There's a guy here in the forum whos been trying to enable 720p video recording on the Nexus One. Heres the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=672823
Check it out, you might be interested in helping.
thanks, will check it out and report
fiuza91 said:
Hey vnbuddy, I haven't tried to do your mod yet but there's something I think you should be aware of. There's a guy here in the forum whos been trying to enable 720p video recording on the Nexus One. Heres the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=672823
Check it out, you might be interested in helping.
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Yeah - I saw the thread. You can try to change frameRate="24" to frameRate="30" if you want to play around with. There shouldn't be any side affects. But not sure if you will be able to achieve 30fps
Regards,
Kenny N
alexdzn said:
Is it possible to make the same with foto!!! to change resolution for widescreen fotos on Froyo, to display it on widescreen TV and laptop.....
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I've checked their codes. At this point, it's not possible to adjust this setting without major modifications
Regards,
Kenny N
As it's written in that file shouldn't the high profile encode the video in mp4 (h264)? If I take a video it always saves it as 3gp...
Does changing the bitRate value have any noticeable effect?
vnbuddy2002 said:
Yeah - I saw the thread. You can try to change frameRate="24" to frameRate="30" if you want to play around with. There shouldn't be any side affects. But not sure if you will be able to achieve 30fps
Nice find vnbuddy, works great on Froyo leak, no FC's. Full screen and noticably sharper
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vnbuddy2002 said:
The following instructions will enable you to record videos in fullscreen ( 800x480 )
1. Pull the file from the phone
adb pull /system/etc/media_profiles.xml
2. Make a copy of "media_profiles.xml" ( in case you want to restore it )
3. edit "media_profiles.xml" and change the following line from
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<EncoderProfile quality="high" fileFormat="mp4" duration="60">
<Video codec="h264"
bitRate="3000000"
width="720" <---- this value
height="480"
frameRate="24" />
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to
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<EncoderProfile quality="high" fileFormat="mp4" duration="60">
<Video codec="h264"
bitRate="3000000"
width="800"
height="480"
frameRate="24" />
-----
4. Save the changes and reupload the file
adb push media_profiles.xml /system/etc/
5. Reboot the phone
adb shell reboot
** Upon request, I've uploaded the file "media_profiles.xml.zip". Unzip and skip to step 4.
Regards,
Kenny N
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Is this supposed to play existing mp4 files full screen by way of camera. I pushed the zip, rebooted but camera plays mp4 same, not full screen. ?
kamasi36 said:
Is this supposed to play existing mp4 files full screen by way of camera. I pushed the zip, rebooted but camera plays mp4 same, not full screen. ?
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No, as stated in the thread title and OP, it makes it to where you record from here on out in 800x480, which is the same resolution as our screens (fullscreen). The video's that you have previously recorded were recorded in 720x480 (3:2).
vnbuddy2002 said:
The following instructions will enable you to record videos in fullscreen ( 800x480 )
1. Pull the file from the phone....
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Trouble Pushing xml
I don't know what the problem is. Following instuctions, but I'm getting this message when I try to push the file..
C:\AndroidSDK\tools>adb push media_profiles.xml /system/etc
failed to copy 'media_profiles.xml' to '/system/etc/media_profiles.xml': Read-on
ly file system
C:\AndroidSDK\tools>
I'd love to try this mod out.
Luckycookie I think your phone has to be rooted to use "push" in adb. Mine is stock and I got the same error
Edit: oh, yours is rooted? Dunno then :s
luckycook82 said:
I don't know what the problem is. Following instuctions, but I'm getting this message when I try to push the file..
C:\AndroidSDK\tools>adb push media_profiles.xml /system/etc
failed to copy 'media_profiles.xml' to '/system/etc/media_profiles.xml': Read-on
ly file system
C:\AndroidSDK\tools>
I'd love to try this mod out.
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do :
adb remount
adb push X:/media_profiles.xml /system/etc
awesome! does it just "stretch" the video, or does it truly capture in widescreen with this mod?
pakraider said:
awesome! does it just "stretch" the video, or does it truly capture in widescreen with this mod?
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It truly captures the video using that resolution.
Regards,
Kenny N
Hi all,
I'm testing what video conversion settings might be good for our Mini. So far, if I use 640-320, it either doesn't fill the screen, or if it does, the people in the video look squashed...
Anyone been testing?
i actually never convert any video since most of the video format simply plays on the phone. what player do you use? i use mxvideo player, the problem when you're converting is, its squeeze the whole frame to fit into inappropriate ratio that's why everything looked squashed.
mxvideo player gives you the zoom option, and you can choose the one that fit you best(might crop the video a bit)
WOW
I just found the BEST settings! I've tried this with my ipod classic so many times and never got it perfect...but for the Mini! Try this!!
I use Format Factory. Handbrake is also good. In format factory, I found the iphone (no idea which version, doesn't say) has the same resolution) though I searched for many devices. I selected that then edited it a tiny bit:
MPEG4(DivX)
480x320
bitrate 576 (or similar)
FPS Default
Aspect Ratio Fully Expand
Sample Rate 44100
Bitrate Default
I've been testing conversion of a 2 minute trailer, you don't want to test on a full film etc. because if it doesn't work out you will waste 1-2 hours every time it's a bad conversion... I've done about 6 tests on a film trailer and this format is absolutely perfect...the entire video is on screen, nothing is squashed, the audio is so crisp and clear...wow! Time to convert en-masse!!
p.s. I have disabled auto-brightness. I highly recommend anyone wishing to convert films etc. to do that...the screen is WAY to dark without disabling auto-brightness.
Try a trailer or other short video on the above settings and see for yourself...
have yu try a full movie & whats tha outcome?
i used xilisoft video coverter 6 ..
the setting i set to Android MP4 profile ..
change the size to 720x480 with high quality
also used a little pan and scan to zoom it a little
and at 30fps..
play it to my mini with stock video player is like watching an HD movie
whalesplaho said:
have yu try a full movie & whats tha outcome?
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I have tried this with one of my favourite films and I'm delighted with the progress!
To the other guy...how's the aspect ratio? Nobody is squashed? I'd like to try that too!
phoneyericsson said:
I have tried this with one of my favourite films and I'm delighted with the progress!
To the other guy...how's the aspect ratio? Nobody is squashed? I'd like to try that too!
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thanks for yur response brov....
phoneyericsson said:
To the other guy...how's the aspect ratio? Nobody is squashed? I'd like to try that too!
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If you're asking me ..the aspect ratio is 16:9 ..but when i use pan and scan effect ..it will make it fit to screen without nobody squashed as in because its zoom
is it me or you guys also feeling that ..
RAZR camera sucks..!
is there any way to improve the camera quality ??
Tell that to motorola..... Unlocked bootloader would allow us to disable JPEG compression, and greatly improve the picture quality..
Is there any other way... ? To improve..?
On the RAZR MAXX (which is the OG RAZR with a bigger battery), you can adjust the compression on a rooted phone as follows:
Copy the file /system/etc/media_profiles.xml to /system/etc/media_profiles.xml-ORIG. Keep the copy because you'll need the original file when future system updates come along.
In the file /system/etc/media_profiles.xml:
About 30 lines from the top, change
Code:
<!ATTLIST ImageEncoding quality (90|80|70|60|50|40) #REQUIRED>
to
Code:
<!ATTLIST ImageEncoding quality (100|95|90|85|80|75|70|60|50|40) #REQUIRED>
also in the file, you need to look for a set of lines for each camera (front and rear) that looks like:
Code:
<ImageEncoding quality="95" />
<ImageEncoding quality="80" />
<ImageEncoding quality="70" />
<ImageDecoding memCap="20000000" />
To remove compression altogether, change the quality values to 100. Change the memCap to at least twice the number of megapixels in your device's camera. Larger will not improve the quality of your photos; smaller will force Android to pick a compression value that makes the image fit into that number of bytes.
After making the change, reboot your device.
will it also work with normal razr..?
have you tried this and how are the results...!
can u upload some pics taken from your device..?
With these changes, the compression is still high and quality is bad :\ I'm using Vignette! With stock camera the photos are around 0.9 and 1.5 MB, with Vignette yesterday I took a 4MB photo! So I think that the compression is lower in that app!
vikcie said:
will it also work with normal razr..?
have you tried this and how are the results...!
can u upload some pics taken from your device..?
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I haven't done it, but it will work for OG RAZR. There's nothing different between the OG RAZR and OG RAZR MAXX other than battery size.
For me, I haven't found the pictures to be that bad, so I haven't mucked with these settings.
solefero69 said:
With these changes, the compression is still high and quality is bad :\ I'm using Vignette! With stock camera the photos are around 0.9 and 1.5 MB, with Vignette yesterday I took a 4MB photo! So I think that the compression is lower in that app!
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These are just suggestions I found while searching and others have stated they have helped. As I stated above, I haven't implemented them because I'm happy enough with what I'm getting right now.
Hello all,
I don't actually have S4 Zoom yet but for those who adventurous enough you could try editing media_profile.xml inside /system/etc/ such can be found here
ImageEncoding quality (95.99|80|70|60|50|40)
^^^^^^
Change default max 90% JPG to 95.99%
<ImageEncoding quality="95.99" />
<ImageEncoding quality="95.99" />
<ImageEncoding quality="95.99" />
<ImageDecoding memCap="40000000" />
^^^^^^
Change default 90, 80, 70 JPG to force 95.99% all the time and increases the file size cap to 4MB from 2MB. You will need to change this settings in two places.
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For those who tried please report back. I quite interested with this phone but the image compression looks pretty bad.
nX3NTY said:
Hello all,
I don't actually have S4 Zoom yet but for those who adventurous enough you could try editing media_profile.xml inside /system/etc/ such can be found here
For those who tried please report back. I quite interested with this phone but the image compression looks pretty bad.
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Has anyone tried this yet? (I haven't, without rooting my phone)
I am currently using "superfine" 16M pixel option, file szie is ~ 5MB per picture
thanks
do you think there is a mod to increase the resolution of the panorama mode?
With galaxy s4 i can make panorama 22000x1500 pixels! With s4 zoom not more than 4000x500px :crying:
yeah.... i dont understand... panorama photos are ugly & small... WTF ?! i made lot of them & then at home i was like, are you fuucking kidding me.... ?! its totally uselles mode, photos looks like 8bit thumbnails...