Hello I got a USB gender change: A-Female to A-Female so that i could connect a self powered USB Hub to my Archos.
So far i have connected a self power Hard Disk directly into my Archos 70.
Didn't pick it up.
A mouse in the USB Hub.
Didn't pick it up.
A pen drive directly.
Didn't pick it up.
Is the Archos 70 locked down or does the USB Micro B connector they have on the Archos 70 work different?
I thought USB was a universal connector!
... one thing you have to realize is the device needs drivers to work those devices. you just cannot flip flop the connector and expect everything to work. tipically unless the device has a INPUT port which is a standard usb port not a micro or mini 5 or an old 1.1 usb connector it wont work.
Alot of those hongkong micro a to b converters are rubbish.
The nokia has been reported to work.
You need a USB "HOST" Cable, it contains a chip that puts your devices on "master" mode.
The Nokia and Archos one work, for the others don't expect them to work at all if they do not mention to be USB "HOST" cables !
BTW, the feedback is not very good, seems that it can deliver only 200mA, so if you want to plug an external disk drive, make sure you have a power supply on it before
Also some USB keys need more than 200mA so they won't mount at all :/
I found this: http://www.kjell.com/content/templa...9&path=97000000,119000000,149500000,151500000
Translation: Used by for example mobile phones with USB host (it's own built in USB controller).
Is the USB "HOST" Cable the same as this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go
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I found this: http://www.kjell.com/content/templa...9&path=97000000,119000000,149500000,151500000
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That cable doesn't look correct.
[correction - that cable at kjell looks correct for hooking two USB On-The-Go devices together. So if you wanted to hook your Archos to another Archos or to a blackberry.]
Look for a micro usb Nokia n810 host cable. Or "Micro USB Host OTG". They seem widely available in the us on eBay
Usually they have the micro USB male connector and a full size female connector on the other. Be careful because some are mini USB, you want micro USB
Look on the us eBay for a picture.
Here is a pretty good picture also - http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.51045 several people have confirmed this one works.
Yeah, the connector is obviously wrong on that one. I was mostly curios about whether this USB HOST cable was the same as an OTG.
That's the only cable of OTG type that I've seen in any retail store in Sweden (although I haven't been looking for it until now), so I was thinking of maybe getting it in the store and then get an adapter for the connector. But since there's a special pinning on these cables (as I understand from the Wikipedia article) maybe that doesn't work?
I'll probably go for the Nokia cable anyway, just to be sure, should be able to find it in a retail store somewhere...
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Alot of those hongkong micro a to b converters are rubbish.
The nokia has been reported to work.
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the nokia one doesn't work for me
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this works fine on my 32IT. I can use my microSD adapter, camera, powered hard drive, multi-card reader with SD cards and USB mouse. Other people have said they can't get USB host to work at all, even with this cable, but it works for me.
USB mouse works ok.
But it`s not enought power for 3G USB dongles.... Печалька.
Nokia ones works ok
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/genuine-nokia-ca-157-micro-usb-otg-to-usb-data-cable-14cm-length-51045
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Hi together,
ive asked me if it is possible to use an adapter for 1x micro usb (plug) -> 2x micro usb (jack).
Could the phone handle 2 USB devices at the same time?
Maybe then it is possible to use the HDMI output and the USB host parallel?
For example to use an TV as screen and an HDD as the source for a movie.
This would be nice.
Thanks in advance.
macc
When the connector is used for HDMI I doubt it can be used as USB at the same time, I'n sorry.
Maybe in a few months cyanogenmod provides a hack, if there will be an dual adapter soon.
We will see. Thank you.
macc
The hardware needs to allow this if it'd become possible. You need a really smart USB dongle that knows how to split the HDMI output from the USB output.
Sounds a little too difficult to ever happen.
Hmm thats right. I think i still dream xD
But thank you.
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it is not possible. because as stated on this forum many times before, the type of usb connection is determined by the resistor between pin 4 and 5 of the micro usb connector. the strength can tell the phone, that there is either a charger, a pc connection, car kit, jig, usb otg or mhl connection present.
and i believe, this is an important thing to keep in mind for so many things:
for instance, why the original car kit triggers car mode and generic car charging cables don't or why not just any micro usb male to usb a female will work as a otg cable or why flashing should be done with the original usb cable...
so if you were to buy or build a micro usb hub, since it has no resistor in the very plug that connects to the phone, it cannot be used for anything but charging and quite frankly, i wouldn't connect more than one charger to the phone.
however, if you want to use your phone for presentations or watching movies and still be able to use it, get a bluetooth keyboard and mouse or a bluetooth presenter or do it the other way around and use a usb input device and transfer your media using allshare. everything else is physically impossible, so neither CM nor XDA can do anything about it. the only device that can do what you want is the new motorola. it has a separate micro usb and micro hdmi port and a docking station, so you can use it as a full notebook.
Thats obvious. Thank you.
macc
Hi everyone,
and thanks in advance for any help / advice that you may have for me.
I'll start off with my question, before I unload all of my information. I simply would like to know exactly what type of USB Connection the Sony Tablet has, and therefore, what specific USB Cable I need to buy in order to connect it to my PC running Vista.
I bought a Sony Tablet and have been surprised the lack of information in regards to the USB connectivity of the device. Specifically, the exact 'cable type' required to connect the device to a PC. Everywhere I have read so far, it simply says USB Micro, or USB 2.0 micro. But when I try use the micro USB cable that I currently use with my Xperia Play phone (which works fine for PC transfer with the phone) it's doesn't work at all with the Sony Tablet. It doesn't even register on the PC when I plug the cable into the tablet. Just nothing.
Since then, I have read a lot about USB, and found that there are different types, like 'Mini USB' versus 'Micro USB'. Apparently there is also Micro USB 'A' and Micro USB 'B'. And finally, apparently there is 4 pin micro usb and 5 pin micro usb type.
hope this all makes sense, many thanks guys.
Austab.
This tablet uses micro USB, I'm pretty sure the cable for your Xperia should work fine with the tablet. Perhaps you plugged it in upside down?
Thanks for the reply, I agree with your thought train. If it works with the Xperia, then surely it should work with tablet. I'll try it again after work today, and confirm. Is it actually possible to plug the cable in the wrong way around?
I'll kick myself if I did! Thanks again, cheers.
Austab.
It cannot be plugged in upside down, unless you use extreme force and break it.
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But yeah, this cable *should work, if it works with your Xperia Play. In principle there is only one kind of micro-USB cable (well, actually it could have either regular type A *OR micro type A connector at one end, but let's keep it simple. Mini-USB is a different kind and A and B are just connector types.
See this picture with different USB connectors:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Types-usb_new.svg
Your cable should have a regular USB A connector (the one on the top left) at one end and micro-USB B connector at the other end (the one on the bottom right).
Yeah, it should work; I'm using the same USB cable that I use with my Xperia Arc.
For what it's worth, I've been having issues too. Mostly windows fails to find the drivers and install them. I've talked to multiple Sony reps and have tried multiple computers but haven't had any luck. Maybe it's a bad cable but I have had Windows detect the device...just unable to install the plug-n-play drivers.
Systems I've tried it on:
Custom built - Windows 7 with Service Pack 1
Dell - Windows XP Service Pack 3
Sony Vaio Laptop - Windows XP Service Pack 3
I had the same problem on both of tablet P and tablet S. I can tell you, its more about luck than the wrong cable type! At the end, it just works after retrying a few plugs and unplugs.
Hope they can get a fix for this soon.
Hey again guys, I've now tried the cable again with my Sony Tablet, and I'm definitely plugging it in correctly. There's no response whatsoever on the tablet or the PC once I've plugged the cable in.
When using the same cable on my Xperia play, the phone will instantly start charging once I plug the cable in to the PC. However, the PC doesn't actually recognize the phone as a device (i.e. it doesn't show up in windows explorer, or launch the Ericsson Phone Software, as it once did). It charges the phone, but doesn't talk to it, if that makes sense.
So it would seem that some Micro USB cables are good for charging only, but not for data transfer / PC recognition.
I'll buy a different cable tomorrow so will let you know if it works then.
Thanks again for all the replies guys I appreciate it.
cheers again,
Austab
Looks like the cable is faulty then and you have to try another one.
I bet one of data wires is broken, or a data contact inside connector is broken (worn down), because when you connect your Xperia Play it should also be recognized as a device.
Then again, maybe there is something wrong with your computer.
Can you try the same cable on another computer, and see if the device is recognized, before you buy a new cable. Or let them check the cable at the store to see if it really is faulty.
My understanding is you need an OTG USB cable, (On The Go) - this is what you need to connect USB keys and other hard-drives and so therefore I would think external PCs too.
I bought a nokia one for around 5 pounds from amazon, do a search for OTG USB cables,
thanks
Pratish
He wants to connect it to a computer, not connect external devices to it.
So he needs a regular micro-USB cable.
the cable is USB Host finde with this name
People, wtf are you talking?!
He *does not* need USB host (OTG) cable. That's for connecting USB devices, like keyboard, mouse, USB-storage etc., to your tablet.
He wants to connect his tablet to a computer. For that he needs a regular type A USB to type B micro-USB cable.
Hi,
Would seem like op had a charging cable, not data one. As stated, he need a regular data cable with appropriate connectors. OTG has nothing to do with it.
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Hi Crazzzik,
so you're saying that there are micro usb cables for charging only, and then there are micro usb cables for data + charging etc? That would explain things perfectly for me, as my cable seems to work for charging devices, but not communicating with a PC (i.e. data transfer).
I'm getting a new cable today - sorted!
Many thanks everyone for your help & advice
Austab
Yes when I got the cable for my sony tablet s, I saw several usb cables that would fit the tablet, but on the package it said specifically "for charging only, not meant for data transfer", so they do make the cabkes just for charging, as a PC tech, I was a little embarrassed that I just found this out this weekend.
Thanks
I also got a microUSB-cable adapter, it works fine with usb driver / joypad and keyboard
but not sure if it's capable for connecting with PC or even for charging
hello all,
I recently bought the usb cable for the tablet they sell at the sony store. The micro usb to female normal usb ( I think you know what im talking about). It is sony tablet specific. The micro usb end of the cable is square instead of tappered at one side. it worked fantastic for plugging in and usb deviced to the tablet, but when I tried to plug it into my galaxy s, it wouldn't fit. just thought those thinking of buying one would appreciate the heads up so its not a shock if they try to use it on any other devices. Im sure you can find that same cable at any well stocked computer shop.
i borrowed a htc wildfire s cable, this works and installs drivers.
hi:
i think i will try to get hptp from ebay.
i see that it doesnt have usb for flash drive..
assuming that if connected to a dongle, it will read/write to flash drives,
which adapter should i search for.. mini male (for tp) > usb (flashdrive)?
thanx
I have read a thread on the usb host mode for the TP (can't remember which of the 8 forums I am on) that the micro usb port WILL support host mode BUT you will need a "Y" cable to provide power at the same time. Do a search for "host mode " on the TP forums and check it out. I have not attempted it so far as I have not found the correct "Y" cable mentioned in the thread.
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There is fully functional USB Host support, you don't even need to do any SW modification, everything is supported out of the box with one caveat, you need external power.
Support for keyboard, mice, harddrives and cameras is fully built in the default WebOS software.
I guess HP planned to sell their own USB attachments, iPad-style.
The only thing you need is USB OTG cable. Like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-micro-U...781644?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item19c7d49acc
Basically just search for "USB OTG cable" on ebay, costs about $3. And USB Y-cable. The only two things you need are OTG microUSB cable and USB Y cable to provide external power.
I am still looking into possibility of self-powered usb host mode, with all the support HP built in for it it almost sounds like a given there must be a way to enable it one way or another. Unfortunately chipset documentation is almost nonexistent.
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well i got hptp today..
the ebay link USB OTG cable for was great..
the y cable search was confusing:: i do not know which kind to look for plus.. i dont see how to use this thing.. how does it get power.. i spose the USB OTG cable plugs into one of the "y" but im lost really...
i appreciate all responses..
thanx
What i've bought:
OTG: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-O...070399?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f0e501abf
USB Female to Female: http://www.ebay.com/itm/280732594049?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Y cable: http://www.ebay.com/itm/120626863147?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
External battery with USB: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/2400ma...a-cable-for-htc-desire-g5-samsung-i9000-57905
What i've got: unusable pile of crap. The whole system can power up a mouse or gamepad, or external HDD (which is need to be powered from wall socket in addition to TP) but it's much worse with anything else: 16gb flash stick - lights up, but not enough power to read data, USB card reader don't even lights up. And situation with powering from PC USB (instead of ext. battery) is the same.
Anyway, even if the whole system would work, i doubt that you would take all those cables with you wherever you go, so it's useless.
i watched the russian vid..
hassle w/ capital H
little to zero hope of this gonna ever work
thanx for replies
Has anyone made an OTG cable for the TFP? I don't like the chunky USB OTG connector and thought an OTG cable would be much better.
Not quite sure what you mean.
The only proper usb connector is a standard type A connector located on the keyboard, it has insufficient pins to implement OTG. The only other usb connectors are the propriety asus ones, one on the tablet and one on the keyboard, the other small connector on the tablet is HDMI output
I have the "chunky" USB OTG connector as well.. I don't think there's a cable though... I looked everywhere on the net
I don't have a dock therefore the only way I can plug a USB flash drive, Keyboard/mouse into the TFT is via the ASUS USB OTG Host adapter View attachment 1384503
I was after something a little slimmer and believe a OTG cable would be ideal - Refer to picture for an example of what I'm referring to View attachment 1384504
Micro USB OTG cables can be used with many phones and tablets sporting a micro USB connector. The TFP obviously doesn't have a micro USB connector therefore I was hoping someone knew how to make an ASUS 40 pin to female Type-A plug which replicates the ASUS USB OTG Host adapter.
Has anyone pulled apart the ASUS USB OTG host apapter? What's inside it?
Hey guys. There are several articles and videos around on how to make your own OTG cable. It essentially involves shorting a single pin. I have no idea if it'll work with a TFP, but I'm going to give it a shot today or tomorrow if I get some time. My plan is to use the normal TFP USB cable, but plug it into a female/female USB gender changer that has been modified to short the pin. I'm almost positive that it'll work on my SGS3, and I don't see why it wouldn't also work for my TFP. I'll report back.
Nevermind. I now see that the TFP USB end has five pins, so they won't match up with the 4-pin female USB port. Oh well...
TFP and OTG
Does anyone know if the OTG will support a USB hub?
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Does anyone know if the OTG will support a USB hub?
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The TFP doesn't have OTG, it's a regular USB host.
So yea, it will support a hub because it's a standard USB device class, with its driver already part of the kernel.
One of the things I’m really amazed by with the modern PDAs is the USB OTG. So just as I found out that my Galaxy has it, I got myself an adapter (for less than $3) and tested it with several devices. Here’re my results:
USB flash drives: every single one I tried worked perfectly except a 1 GB drive of unknown vendor, which wasn't even recognized by the Galaxy, works okay with PCs thought.
External HDDs: the Toshiba 500 GB USB 3.0 drive wasn't recognized and didn't show any signs of life. Surprisingly, a 320 GB SATA WD Blue in a USB bay was detected and spinned up, but the Galaxy didn't recognize the file system and asked if I want to format it. I didn't, since the disk had some data I needed, but there's definitely a potential.
Input devices: all the mice and keyboards I tried worked as they should, both wired and wireless, which was expected. Which wasn't, is that DualShock3 controller from my PS3 was immediately recognized too without any additional drivers or software, it even let me control the menus. Sadly, that wasn't the case with my Logitech Freedom 2.4 wireless joystick. I guess the power wasn't enough.
Output devices: Sennheiser wired USB headset (basically, the USB sound adapter with the headset attached) worked as it should. HP LaserJet P1102 printer didn't work even with USB printing service installed.
Overally, I got much more then I dreamed of, especially since I heard that the OTG is very poor on a modern devices. DualShock3 success is especially cool.
This is quite weird as I have tried the original Samsung Micro USB OTG adapter, with the little white USB-C adapter and it did not work. This is on A3 2017.
There were rumors that USB OTG was disabled. Which adapter do you have?
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This is quite weird as I have tried the original Samsung Micro USB OTG adapter, with the little white USB-C adapter and it did not work. This is on A3 2017.
There were rumors that USB OTG was disabled. Which adapter do you have?
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The rumors aren't true. The thing is, Type-C uses a different pinout for OTG, so it shouldn't be a combo of Type-C to Micro and Micro to Type-A OTG, it should be a special Type-C to Type-A OTG adapter. The adapter that comes with the device is good for charging only, or so I heard. I’ll photo my adapter, but I got it for almost nothing in a local computers store.
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The rumors aren't true. The thing is, Type-C uses a different pinout for OTG, so it shouldn't be a combo of Type-C to Micro and Micro to Type-A OTG, it should be a special Type-C to Type-A OTG adapter. The adapter that comes with the device is good for charging only, or so I heard. I’ll photo my adapter, but I got it for almost nothing in a local computers store.
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Very interesting. A different pinout for OTG. Yeah I thought it was the combo that shoud have worked.
The little adapter comes with the device is said to be charge and sync. Because when connected to my PC it works. for data transfer.
http://www.nix.ru/autocatalog/usb_cables/KS-is-KS-297-Perehodnik-USB-AF-USB-C-M-OTG_279425.html
Here’s the one I got. The site is in Russian, but the pictures are self-explanatory.
I have an OTG now from Aliexpress. It works for my A3 2017. 90 degree angle connector.
Now onto an USB-C to HDMI. The official Samsung EE-HG950 does not work.
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The rumors aren't true. The thing is, Type-C uses a different pinout for OTG, so it shouldn't be a combo of Type-C to Micro and Micro to Type-A OTG, it should be a special Type-C to Type-A OTG adapter. The adapter that comes with the device is good for charging only, or so I heard. I’ll photo my adapter, but I got it for almost nothing in a local computers store.
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So if i understand correctly the little "micro usb connector" that comes with the A5 2017 won't work for anything other than charging? I tried using it with a regular otg cable and it doesn't detect any flash drive, not even a ps3 controller, i don't even get the notification that a usb is plugged in.
But whats weird is if i use a male to male usb cable and connect to to a pc it works just fine. Any idea whats causing this?
Please help. I have the same problem. I have newly bought a5 2017. I already have otg usb drive sandisk. The adapter type c included in the box didn't work fine. Except only for charging when connected to usb 2.0.
My usb otg drive will become useless if it doesn't read by my device. What should i do? Or how to activate maybe my otg support? Tnx in advance.
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Please help. I have the same problem. I have newly bought a5 2017. I already have otg usb drive sandisk. The adapter type c included in the box didn't work fine. Except only for charging when connected to usb 2.0.
My usb otg drive will become useless if it doesn't read by my device. What should i do? Or how to activate maybe my otg support? Tnx in advance.
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The adapter from the box is just for charging and data transfer to compuer. If you want to use your flasdisk you can buy a new usb otg for type c slot.